Review - Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (The best tactics on the SNES)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen is a strategy RPG directed by Yasumi Matsuno (FF tactics, FF12, Vagrant story).
This title is perfectly suitable to SRPG enthusiasts who don’t like being spoon fed required information. There’s a lot of micro managing, there are many lengthy battle, and there is a lot that you’re going to have to work out on your own.
Is March of the Black Queen worth a shot? Watch and find out!
.:Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen details:.
Release Date: March 1993
Sub-Genre: SRPG
Platforms: SNES, PS1, Wii, Saturn
Reviewed on: SNES
Developer: Quest
Publisher: Enix
I'd love if they continued this franchise, It's my most beloved one.
Hell no!
Play unicorn overlord. Same game basically
not quite the same but symphony of war: nephilhem saga is kinda similar, just turn based
This is a fair score.
This game reminds me a lot of DOS PC era RPGs and Strategy games, which were almost impossible to play without the manual that came with it.
In fact, reading the manual was part of the experience, making your relationship with the game even closer. Imagine coming home after buying, say, Eye of the Beholder 2, you open the box and along with CD/Floppy and the manual, came the world map and a lore/story book. You flip through these as your game is getting installed and the writing pulls into the fiction, and the manual entices you of the creative you can build parties, solve puzzles and defeat enemies.
After that, you are ready to go for your adventure.
I presume for console only games, which every aspect taught in the game itself, people can find this idea archaic, but that's how many PC games operated back then. They built a lot of trust with the player, because that's how they would be able to continually buy more of their games (remember that PC games were still humble in scale compared to consoles at the time).
So I'm willing to bet Ogre Battle came with a manual (which would probably be hefty)
Speaking of, Matsuno is a sucker for "telling story through gameplay". The "alignment" system sounds a lot like the code of honor many medieval kingdoms followed during warfare. If you were of a certain honor, your rules of fighting against a lower honor position enemy would be different from that against a similar or higher honor enemy.
It came with a manual and a chart for unit development.
Love this game. A golden age classic with so much mystique.
I wish the Ogre series would make a return. I have this game on SNES, Super Famicom and Sega Saturn.
Easily one of the best games ever made. I've completed it many times back on the SNES and still play it now on .... other means. Fantastic game and a true gem.
IIRC the unit upgrade paths came with the game on a poster/sheet thingy. the book and/or other game info also tells you about the alignment and reputation system. you actually don't want to slaughter armies than are weaker than you unless you want to become extremely evil. and if you do have any evil armies you want to keep them the heck away from the towns so the people don't see them, or your reputation will plummet. (though it depends if you're aiming for high rep/low rep or high alignment/low alignment; it all changes what ending you get, what characters and items you find, which levels you can unlock, etc.).
This game seriously took me almost 6 months to "finish" I loved it and would restart several times to get a good unit composition to start and to manipulate the starting alignment for MUCH later on (starting evil for early and fast progression but doing the good things to make you good while VERY time-consuming in the later half of the game your a powerhouse against more vigorous opponents), they really need to do an HD version on modern systems or a continuation with the same mechanics it would sell like hotcakes
This is my favorite console SRPG. (I never finished 64 because I only ever knew one person who owned it and he sold his copy while I was mid run.) I wish square would re-release the Ogre Battle games instead of remaking Tactics Ogre once a decade or so.
Needs something like this on the PC imho.
Nice game. It has many props to help the player. I beat it without Tarot cards. While many games borrow elements from each other, the unique music is a reason to play. The gameplay is not always unique yet something fun to learn sometimes. ;)
No mention of the music? Oh it is soooo good!
Yeah wasnt bad at all. I had a good timd listening to them all when editing
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the songs it's based off of are some of the best of queen tbh
@@maxHeadroom325rayxerin queen?
@@Ktsquare2008 the name of the game is actually two queen songs put together, Orge battle and the march of the black queen, rlly good songs
Great! Do one about Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together PSP version.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to keep on the lookout for the other ones.
This is one of the best SNES games. It has that unmistakable charm that games of this era tend to have.
The original super NES game actually came with a complete graphical listing of all the characters, classes, items, and special upgrade requirements. Somewhere I also got a list of all the treasures and hidden cities. This was before the internet was booming with gaming info, soi feel like it was from Nintendo power mag
just finished this game without looking a thing up and I can say this review is 1000% accurate
The chipmonk bs hurt the video
Any Queen’s fans here?
Oh most definitely.
Another great entry in your well respected series. I think I know why a lot of rpg players usually pass on this game for the snes. It really is going to take a lot dedication and patience to get the absolute most out of this game. I'm still willing it a try and since I use guides - i sincerely hope the experience won't be too painful.
Thanks mate. You'll be fine with guides. I actually printed out some hard copies of certain things that i constantly needed reference to.
It's not that complicated. I beat it at 14 years old back when I barely understood English. I loved the lore and music. Definitely recommended!
@@gerardoe.cebollero392 How did you learn about alignments and such? I didn't know anything about that stuff until I looked it up.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 well, I bought the game back then, so I devoured the instruction manual and figured it out with how it was tied with the reputation meter. I was obsessed with this game back then.
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Played this game on SNES and PS. I wish I could get this for PC. I would never see daylight again.
I have such fun playing the battles that I never feel like beating the game! lol I just start a play through, battle, get sidetracked, repeat for infinity
I would say the game really holds up well in a modern sense. It is a well built game, but if you're expecting top quality graphics, etc go elsewhere. The tactical battles are underestimated. By changing formation, classes, etc you can get through the game without using Tarots or consumables like heals, etc. It makes for a much better game when you play it that way.
The lack of hand-holding was because it was assumed that you had the material that came with the cart, Not only did it have an instruction manual, but it also had charts that had TONS of information.
The problem is if you're looking for an Ogre Battle cart that still has the box, the instruction manual, and the charts, all I have to say is GOOD LUCK! YOU'LL NEED IT! (Well, that and a shit ton of money...)
PS: Even with those charts, tweaking Charisma and Alignment in order to get the classes you wanted was STILL tricky as hell.
I love the idea of this have and the art is fantastic. I never get to far into it though.
That plan of camping your own base is a terrible strategy. Every day your troops are on the map costs money, a finite resource. Liberating towns and cities generates money daily. If you liberate all the towns after killing all the enemies, and then wait to generate money that way, you will lose all of your reputation. You might beat the game eventually, but with a horrible reputation and one of the worst endings of the game ....
Cool. I remember trying the Gameboy advance version out of curiosity and quickly became addicted to it. Shortly after I got into it, life got in the way of my gameplay.....until now. I'm downloading the game tonight
Because you're not taking cities, you can liberate all the towns after the battle is over and use that to replenish your reputation. If you have a 5x100 full alignment group, you can gain a lot of reputation really quickly. Moneywise, if you're careful about your deployments, you won't need to farm that much money off the towns to continue funding your army. Once you get to Fort Allamoot, you can gain enough money to not have to worry about funding your army, and there is a town that will give you 30k per map to fund your military.
Still got my Ogre Battle 64 tattoo
I liked OB's gameplay much better than Tactics Ogre. Not that TO's bad, but OB is more unique. If only somebody will continue Ogre Saga series in this fashion and with modern deeper game mechanics (OB64 is not good enough IMO), I will be ecstatic.
This game really is not that hard. I wish the AI enemy actually built dynamic unit groups so every game would play different
March of the black queen poking in the pile
Fie foe the black queen marching single file!!!
tom robbins take this take that bring them down to size
This game was made for savestates haha
Im getting geneology frustratiin flashbacks many save states in old srpgs use them 😢
It's not that hard. I beat it back in the days before the internet existed. OK I got one of the bad endings due to my low reputation.
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yeah man i love play with him!!
Excellent review, it's a pretty shit game, but you say that in a far nicer way.
There is one Ogre in the game...
That’s not where it gets it’s name. It gets its name by 2 of Queen’s hidden gems in Queen II - one of them is longer than Bohemian Rhapsody. These songs are Ogre Battle and The March of the Black Queen.
this game needs a LUCT style or remake with the same aesthetics as LUCT
I thought this game was gonna be another basic RPG like FFIII(6)... strategy RPGs are not my cup of tea.
Playing a strategy game without reading the manual is asking for trouble. That's why you couldn't find how to upgrade.
The prequel to knight of lodis
Looks terrible
*gently points out that Ogre Battle is a strategic and not a tactical game*
your complaints dont make any sense ??? the game doesnt hand hold you??? yet later you say thats a bad thing? bad review imo
The requirement to externally look up how to play the game is something that I didn't enjoy. Some may like spending hours on gamefaqs, I'm not one of those people.