I don't think most thru axles work like that. They provide compressive force, they don't resist compression. Wouldn't suggest putting a thru axle in without a hub or some kind of spacer in there. New bikes often come with a cardboard spacer, held in by the thru axle, which would be ideal.
Tip we've used: Get old skateboard, saw off last few inches (with one set of wheels) - if you have to transport bike box between places before / after you have an airport trolley - Gaffer tape the part of the skateboard to the bottom corner of the box and it becomes very easy to move it around. Put in in the bike box (padded) during flight, use at the destination too. Throw away with the box. Return airport - tough.
Great video! I have been traveling with a bicycle for six years. I bring a used bicycle that I leave there and don't bring back. Saves on the hassle and someone benefits from it abroad.
This video came just in time. Planning my first bikepacking trip around Europe. Hoping my local Sydney baggage handlers don’t live up to their rough reputation 😂
I always take the back wheel off as well to save space and protect the wheel but with that, I end up having to take the deraileuer hanger and rear deraileuer off as well so that's a tricky one. With your set up, I've always found it's tricky to get into a car, taxi or take on public transport to get the airport. Also another bit you didn't cover is how you pick up a box at the end of your trip. I always go to a bike shop and ask them for a spare but they've not always had them. Once had to go to Decathlon for one of those soft bags Jimmy was talking about. If you pack it well enough in that with the pipe lagging (readily available at any hardware shop) and plenty of bubble wrap around each part, it's been a breeze. I then wrap two lots of 'fragile' tape around it which doubles as extra protection and a polite nudge to the baggage handler to treat the stuff with care. Oh, one last thing, don't forget a torque screw to replace the stem and seat post. Very important bit of kit. Plus a pedal wrench too. Great video and some really good tips in there.
I flew to Bangkok with my bike in a cardboard box. I took a stanley knife with me, and after I assembled my bike at the airport, I cut the box into small pieces, and put it in a waste bin. Off I went into the Bangkok traffic, on my way to Phuket. What this video does not mention is how you transport your bike on the trip back home. Best option is to visit a local bike shop, and ask them for cardboard box.
A cardboard box is the most bullet-proof way to ship something, but they are hard to re-use and sometimes places charge you for another. I was a big skeptic of the soft cases, but I've really loved my Orucase - I've flown to and from Sweden several times now with it, and out to California. It does take a bit more disassembly, but the 'soft' bags have come a long way. If I didn't live in NYC and had some more space, the EVOC road bike bags also look great.
If you don't do a lot of trips you don't end up having a giant bike bag gathering dust. I agree with Jimmi soft bags aren't ideal. How to you ship your bike back?
Did your Tailfin rear axle play nicely with the bike box or did you have to put in a standard thru axle to get it to fit into the box? Those axles are a bit wide and the ends somewhat exposed I think. Curious what you did.
You can take your helmet into the cabin as it's technically a hat and doesn't count as hand luggage. Far better than putting it in the box where it could suffer unseen damage and compromise your safety.
I feel a bit dumb, listening to uhm, ... "another household member keen on reducing stuff taking up space in the house" for cutting up a perfect (read factory designed AND paid for) cardboard box... In short, my Canyon bike travel box (as intended by Canyon to ship my bike in the first place) is now some pulp in a cardboard recycling factory 🤦🏻♂️
Dont really agree with the comparison to soft bag - at least not a good one. Evoc has a bunch of handles on the outside, secures the bike better (straps inside for the bike), has more padding (not sure if it makes a real difference tho) and is easier to pack. But yeah if you're flying to a different airport than where you're coming back from, cardboard box is obv pretty much the only way to go
Any tips for what to do if you use an actual proper hard bike case if you need to leave it somewhere to come back to if doing a big loop or how to get it to the other end if doing a point to point trip?
tip: put through axles back in fork and rear and so fork and rear triangle can't get squashed. ✌🏼 enjoy your trip
Or if you don't have through axles, a suitable size block of wood secured in place!
I don't think most thru axles work like that. They provide compressive force, they don't resist compression. Wouldn't suggest putting a thru axle in without a hub or some kind of spacer in there. New bikes often come with a cardboard spacer, held in by the thru axle, which would be ideal.
@@bink281 Makes sense... in that case the block of wood for both! The bikes come packaged with plastic spacers to do the same job.
Tip we've used: Get old skateboard, saw off last few inches (with one set of wheels) - if you have to transport bike box between places before / after you have an airport trolley - Gaffer tape the part of the skateboard to the bottom corner of the box and it becomes very easy to move it around. Put in in the bike box (padded) during flight, use at the destination too. Throw away with the box. Return airport - tough.
Taxi trip is 40 dollars to the bus station (for the airport). I'm going to try this. I need to find wheels.!
That one landscape shot looking across the bay to some hills was the prettiest thing I saw today.
Great video!
I have been traveling with a bicycle for six years. I bring a used bicycle that I leave there and don't bring back.
Saves on the hassle and someone benefits from it abroad.
This video came just in time. Planning my first bikepacking trip around Europe. Hoping my local Sydney baggage handlers don’t live up to their rough reputation 😂
Thanks Francis...what will you do at the end of your trip ? Maybe , a local bike shop there would have boxes ? Peace
yeah lbs!
I always take the back wheel off as well to save space and protect the wheel but with that, I end up having to take the deraileuer hanger and rear deraileuer off as well so that's a tricky one. With your set up, I've always found it's tricky to get into a car, taxi or take on public transport to get the airport. Also another bit you didn't cover is how you pick up a box at the end of your trip. I always go to a bike shop and ask them for a spare but they've not always had them. Once had to go to Decathlon for one of those soft bags Jimmy was talking about. If you pack it well enough in that with the pipe lagging (readily available at any hardware shop) and plenty of bubble wrap around each part, it's been a breeze. I then wrap two lots of 'fragile' tape around it which doubles as extra protection and a polite nudge to the baggage handler to treat the stuff with care. Oh, one last thing, don't forget a torque screw to replace the stem and seat post. Very important bit of kit. Plus a pedal wrench too. Great video and some really good tips in there.
Looking forward to this mini series, love Spain. Hope you're having a brilliant time!
Good luck and enjoy your ride gents. Very envious of your week ahead.
Perfect timing , next week I'm going to travel with my bike.
A box made from another box !!!Boxception !
New bike packing trip!! Awesome. Excited to watch you guys :)
I flew to Bangkok with my bike in a cardboard box. I took a stanley knife with me, and after I assembled my bike at the airport, I cut the box into small pieces, and put it in a waste bin. Off I went into the Bangkok traffic, on my way to Phuket. What this video does not mention is how you transport your bike on the trip back home. Best option is to visit a local bike shop, and ask them for cardboard box.
Stick this on my Watch Later list. Am in TCR next summer. One of the many dilemmas is how to get my bike back from Bulgaria post-race.
A cardboard box is the most bullet-proof way to ship something, but they are hard to re-use and sometimes places charge you for another. I was a big skeptic of the soft cases, but I've really loved my Orucase - I've flown to and from Sweden several times now with it, and out to California. It does take a bit more disassembly, but the 'soft' bags have come a long way. If I didn't live in NYC and had some more space, the EVOC road bike bags also look great.
I used to always use soft cases until I had two bikes destroyed on one flight - now always the buxum metal box, or this cardboard way for bikepacking
(admittedly takes up a lot of space though!)
channel is growing
Been many times and your tips are great info. Enjoy your trip.
That middle green bin said “only glass” so typically for wine bottles! Enjoy the trip!
The electrical tape on the seat post is also a good idea if you’re getting your bike fixed / serviced 👍
Super helpful. Cheers, Lads!
How you getting the bikes home, gotta find another box!!
That’s great but what happens on the way back, where do you get another box and all the bubble wrap, pipe lagging etc from ?
I usually ring up bike shops for the box & find a shop that sells bubble wrap
But Francis what will you use to transport the bikes back to Newcastle?
What do you do for the return trip?
If you don't do a lot of trips you don't end up having a giant bike bag gathering dust. I agree with Jimmi soft bags aren't ideal. How to you ship your bike back?
Great video how did you pack your bikes coming back from Barcelona if you ditched all
get new boxes in Barcelona!
Did your Tailfin rear axle play nicely with the bike box or did you have to put in a standard thru axle to get it to fit into the box? Those axles are a bit wide and the ends somewhat exposed I think. Curious what you did.
what was the overall dimensions of the box? Don't airlines usually have a maximum checked baggage size?
You can take your helmet into the cabin as it's technically a hat and doesn't count as hand luggage. Far better than putting it in the box where it could suffer unseen damage and compromise your safety.
I feel a bit dumb, listening to uhm, ... "another household member keen on reducing stuff taking up space in the house" for cutting up a perfect (read factory designed AND paid for) cardboard box...
In short, my Canyon bike travel box (as intended by Canyon to ship my bike in the first place) is now some pulp in a cardboard recycling factory 🤦🏻♂️
You are brave travelling with your back after The Mauritis Incident.
Dont really agree with the comparison to soft bag - at least not a good one. Evoc has a bunch of handles on the outside, secures the bike better (straps inside for the bike), has more padding (not sure if it makes a real difference tho) and is easier to pack. But yeah if you're flying to a different airport than where you're coming back from, cardboard box is obv pretty much the only way to go
Daisy's bike got smashed up in an evoc... Never again!
@@Cade_Media oh no! I'll pretend I didn't hear that and continue on with mine
@@hgiusdfajgfds extra bubble wrap inside and you'll be ok!!
exactly, surely the pipe protection sleeve is enough protection. a bit of polyurethane will SURELY keep my bike intact
I'm a big fan of removing the rear mech, a broken hanger or mech is a super sad moment.
enjoy the ride boyz
thanks Mike!
So how do you get the bikes back? Where do you get new boxes in Barca?
bike shop!
That middle bin is for wine bottles only.
Any tips for what to do if you use an actual proper hard bike case if you need to leave it somewhere to come back to if doing a big loop or how to get it to the other end if doing a point to point trip?
You could ask someone nicely or post it, but generally a cardboard box is easier for this kind of thing
Hard box requires you to come back to get it tho…with cardboard get to dump it and ride to wherever…
Go Celtics!
Yessss🖖☝️
So what airline did you travel on and how much was the extra fee for them to transport these large 32kg bike boxes?
Jet2 was the airline, I think about £30 extra
@@Cade_Media Wow! That's flippin' cheap! Here in the USA getting an airline to transport a bike usually costs $100 - $200
Hi Sir, I just want to ask. How much is the usually extra cost for sports equipment(bikes) on planes? c:
It varies a lot between airlines - this time it was about £40 each way
after trashing your bike boxes, how are you going to transport back your bike?
get another box!
How did you get these boxes from the airport to the hotel?
Taxi
00:26 in this video 👍
How do you box up for the return leg?
local bike shop!
Lacking pipe lagging... pool noodles! Good cheap alternative.
But then, how do you re-pack to fly back home ???? You have to find everything again (box, etc) ?
we will hopefully acquire boxes on the other end!
😎
Jimmy's one is shit!!!! (LMAO)
Best place to get rid of a bike box. Vietnam, hands down Vietnam.
so true
EspanLAST
Hellooo
hello!
Oh cool cardboard boxes
Bubble wrap your helmet! 😳😆
95% blowing air 5% showing how to pack. 🤮
Absolute rubbish video. Less of the "Bro", more of the "show"