Causality: From Aristotle to Zebrafish - Frederick Eberhardt - 10/16/2019

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  • @btsjiminface
    @btsjiminface 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing lecture, amazing speaker, amazing topic. Thank you, professor! - a PhD student

  • @newyork1401
    @newyork1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible lecture. Hope he comes out with a book similar to this lecture for the general public at some point. Even more respect now for Cal Tech.

    • @veryshuai
      @veryshuai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Judea Pearl recently wrote "The Book of Why", which is a popularization of these ideas.

  • @CarlosElio82
    @CarlosElio82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not convinced. If you take the action principle as a cause because it is a property of nature, then the effect is the path light travels, in one instance of the effects of the action principle. Sean Carroll in one chapter in his series the Biggest Ideas, says that at the microscopic level, causality can be replaced by patterns. For example, in the pattern of natural numbers, 1, 2, 3, 4,... one does not say that 3 causes 4, although 4 always comes after 3. But at the macroscopic level, when new systems and relationships emerge (Carroll believes in emergent theory) and the entities have volition like human motives, then cause-and-effect is legitimate science. Reciprocity, forgiveness, altruism, competition, are real phenomena in social science and can only be studied under a cause-and-effect lens.

    • @ctlaltdel
      @ctlaltdel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you're talking about natural numbers as a pattern, then yes 3 does not cause 4. But if we're just talking about patterns, then there's no particular reason to privilege the pattern 1,2,3,4... over any other arrangement of the numbers. To give the particular pattern 1,2,3,4... significance, then the pattern must be regarded as a _sequence_ defined by a rule. In this case the rule is that the next number in the sequence is the successor of the previous one. In other words, 3 does cause 4.

  • @alwaysgreatusa223
    @alwaysgreatusa223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Causality is an inference, not a perception.

  • @alwaysgreatusa223
    @alwaysgreatusa223 ปีที่แล้ว

    The philosophical works of Bertrand Russell only survive themselves because they are erroneously supposed to do no harm.

  • @lifangu8479
    @lifangu8479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These causation approaches do not work for human specific intelligence, especially when using complex languages and mathematics.
    The semantics of "causation", "laws", and many other important phrases varies from time to time, from some cases to other cases. People use intelligence to study intelligence, and use sciences to study sciences, which raise particular difficulties in higher-order logic.
    The dynamic semantics with higher-order logic could incur severe problems in logic and judgement, especially in the testing of artificial intelligence. Gödel indicated there are problems in axiomatic systems and logical positivism/empiricism. A better logic system is needed.
    There are more channels than synapses on neurons to be studied or even to be discovered. There are other types of signals in brains which you missed. Not to mention quantum entanglement, the assumptions of quanta emerging from nothing, and the world beyond Planck measurement, etc.

  • @acunrealgameplay6143
    @acunrealgameplay6143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Causal model is almost surely a misleading of causality. I believe, in the era of Hume and Kant, if someone can’t figure this point out, he or she was far from to be considered as a philosopher. Fancy tech with shallow mind, so pitiful