The 'Lost Boy Larry' Broadcasts: Was this all a Hoax?
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@@Bigbenisntaclock I doubt he believes in it, but will pretend he does for enough money.
Simon pretty sure this is a scam. Lights do jack to your skin except occasionally burn it.
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I have a theory. What if the initial conversation with Darlene was real. Dad did suffer a medical emergency. What if he recovered and was able to get a tow early on - maybe from a Native American that didn’t have tv or something. Dad ignores all news about “Larry “ because he doesn’t realize that son was using an alias over the radio. “Larry” obviously doesn’t listen to news (being so young). Then what if “Larry” dies young maybe because of a car accident or something. He wouldn’t grow up knowing or hearing about this situation on the internet.
As to the truck not being found...there is the case of 2 girls and their car disappearing in the 1970's in rural South Dakota. They were never seen again and the car had disappeared. For 42 years no one had any idea what had happened to them. A neighbor had been accused to doing something and his property had been searched multiple times. Then in 2013, while experiencing a drought year, the wheels of an upturned car was spotted in a small river just below a bridge of a relatively busy road. They found the girls...after 42 years only because their was a drought.
yeah and America is fucking huge with tons and tons of empty space. texas alone is 16x bigger than my entire country so I don't find it that weird that no one has found it
Simon doesn’t get just how big America is
There's so many vehicles hiding under water. Just takes a drought, rerouting of water, or a determined diver to find them.
and i think in this case they were following another car on a turn then they disappeared in the river.
I remember there was a case where some guy was driving home and then went missing for like 10 years. Someone then was looking on google maps over their neighbourhood and found a silhouette of something in a local pond, in a suburban development. Turns out it was guy that had been missing. We think we can find things but whether it be water or the country expanse, things can and do go missing never to be found. It’s crazy
I am not a fan of these types of pranks. About 25 years ago, I got a call one day from what sounded like a very young girl. She said she was 4 years old and that her mommy had left the house and not returned. I was in a panic but tried to get her to tell me where she was in terms a little person might understand, (big/small house?, apartment?, in the country? city?) what her mother's name was or any other details she could provide. She eventually hung up on me. I immediately called police to see if there was anything they could do. This was just before *69 became a thing here in the US. It was a tool that allowed you to call back the last number that dialed you. The police hands were tied. The next day it happened again with the same results. She said her mommy still wasn't home. I shed tears and was in a panic for years over that little girl. It wasn't until just about 5 years ago that a close friend of mine admitted he had put his teen daughter up to the prank. To say I was beyond pissed, would be an understatement. I couldn't believe it.
Are yall still close friends..?
That's the funniest secret I've ever heard.. if I had that secret over someone I would think about it and laugh at least once a week. Your friend is awesome.
That’s fucking horrible, and your friend is a jackass. I had one of the “daughter in an accident” scam calls just a week or so ago. I answered my phone and a crying girl was saying “mommy please help me.” I do have a daughter. The instant panic and dread that flooded my body was awful. The a dude came on and said “there has been an accident, is this your daughter?” At that point I knew it was fake because my daughter was in school, and if there had been an accident the school would be the one calling. I told him to F off and hung up. I stayed anxious and angry all day. People suck.
That is a really crappy thing to do, especially since they didn't tell you for years 😡
He made you think a little girl was scared and needed help. cool prank bro🙄... Don't you look like an idiot for having compassion.
I live in Arizona. If you're stuck in a car in the southwest US desert, without water, in August, you literally have a matter of hours before you're dead. The temperatures outside in August are well over 100F, or 38C. Inside a vehicle, you can easily get temperatures more commonly seen on meat thermometers, like 150F or 66C. Even with the windows open, you're going to be severely dehydrated, to the point of delirium, within a day or two, and dead shortly thereafter.
40C with low humidity and you can be dead in 5 -6 hours
Same where I live. Just stand around not doing anything and you still freaking BAKE in the summer. The company I work for has a policy that everyone has to start the day with at least 2 gallons of water in our coolers. Sometimes even 2 gallons doesn't last the whole day.
Driving out to Az for the first time I was shocked at the warning signs along the high way 😂 bloody intense out there
Arizona and the Australian outback take out a lot of people who don't know better and drive into it without water.
People here in Arizona die hiking in city mountain parks completely surrounded by the city. Homeless die from exposure throughout the summer. In the winter go north and you can freeze to death in a snow bank.
An interesting CB (Citizen's Band) radio story.
The most interesting CB story I ever heard was James Earl Jones, the voice of Darth Vader, was driving in New Mexico when he got lost. He had a CB in his car and heard a lot of chatter going on, so Jones keyed his mic and said, "Hello. I'm lost. Is anyone out there." He let go of the button to ABSOLUTE SILENCE in response. Eventually Jones found a major road and stopped at a truck stop. He said when he entered the truck stop, everyone was talking about The Voice everyone had just heard on the CB.
I really hope he called himself Vader
Darth Vader: Hello? I'm lost can I get some help?
Every single trucker: That was darth vader, he's gonna blow up earth!
@@mariawhite7337 Vader didn't blow up planets. That was Grand Moff Tarkin.
@@mariawhite7337 @Jobe00 "well actually 🤓"
"I find my lack of direction disturbing."
The DoD gets permission from the tribe in question before naming an airframe after them. They do so because of the type of aircraft and it's uses. For example the Apache is designed to do both combat and recon. It's a huge deal. They even have the tribal elders show up when they announce the name and christen the first airframe.
Thats really nice actually.
Not all. The Chinook are not a federal tribe anymore. They are "extinct". But we don't mind. I haven't spoken to any of us that have an issue with it.
Fun Fact: When Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan went missing somewhere in the Pacific, there were reportedly distress signals that people were picking up on their shortwave radios. These were dismissed as being pranks, and were not investigated. In hindsight, the odds seem probable that these distress calls really were from Amelia Earhart.
Short wave is below the CB band. It bounces better
And then she was eaten by crabs.
@@kensmith5694 not sure what you call short wave but longer waves bounce better, ie lower frequency. Above a certain threshold it stops bouncing at all if I recall correctly, but it being 25yrs ago that I studied that stuff I don't recall the specifics.
Then they were eaten by coconut crabs.
I love the Amelia Earhart story. Being eaten by coconut crabs is the absolute worst death I can imagine.
I'm having my tattoo artist friend draw up a 50s pop art tattoo of Amelia surrounded and being eaten by coconut crabs. I'm OBSESSED.
@@chrstfer2452❤
911 dispatcher here. For the area that my agency covers, yes, we do have mapping. BUT, we do ask for the exact location/address as the mapping for a cellphone may only lead to the nearest cellphone tower. In this case, you knowing the directions to deliver a pizza to your exact location is essential.
"I'm in City Name, at 123 Main Street, apartment 1" is what we hope to hear. If it's the highway, "I'm on Highway 1, at/passing mile marker 2.4". Without a good location, the emergency services that you need can't find you.
We can usually find your rough location, but we really need you to help us so that we can help you or the people that you are with.
Is the ‘what 3 words’ app a thing elsewhere? It’s a great concept
Yeah, and this is really hit or miss in the United States.
People have died because dispatchers don't have the most up to date tech. One girl called 911 and drowned on the phone with the dispatcher because she accidentally drove off of the road into water and the cops and rescue team couldn't find her because they lacked updated gps systems.
That’s so sad. I guess I didn’t even think that emergency services wouldnt have the most up to date gps equipment. That’s crazy!
@@alixsutherland9104 They do, but if you’re only connecting to one cell tower, there is no way to triangulate position. You could be anywhere within range of that one tower in any direction. The problem isn’t their equipment. It’s the equipment of the person calling that causes the problem.
It would be better if every phone could transmit GPS coordinates as part of the caller ID on emergency calls. You still might be half a mile off, but that would make the search easier.
@@almitrahopkins1873 That’s why the what 3 words app is so good - you don’t need to triangulate anything. Every 3 square metre of land is assigned 3 random words and if the person can relay these 3 to the emergency services on the call they know where they are in a 3 metre radius. It’s really amazing how well it works. But appreciate USA is a much bigger area to cover than the UK!
New Mexico is one of the most (probably THE most) empty states in the US. If it's got an environment similar to northern AZ then it is incredibly possible for there to be a rusty old truck in the bottom of a ravine 400yds below a road snaking through old mountain camping trails that several people have seen many years later and said "cool, but I'm not going down there."
Seriously…it’s basically Hot Dakota
@@OneBentMonkey Hot Dakota, a very good term
I would say Alaska is the most empty but yeah NM and the whole south west is an empty sandbox. You could probably transport all of England into the state it would be a few days before anyone noticed 😆
But that truck wouldn't be the same. They searched for it but didn't find it. The very first thing done in a drove off the road accident is not search the woods or ravines but drive up and down the roads and look for signs of a vehicle going through the brush or tall grass on the side of the road. Signs that will be clearly visible for the rest of the summer and for years to come with uprooted bushes in New Mexico. In summer the grass is dry and once driven over they stay over leaving clear tire marks. It is impossible for a vehicle to go off road and not leave a trace, they leave a neon sign if your looking for it. Cops have spotted such and discovered accidents without any report to look for them while driving the speed limit search and rescue will be going a snails pace and looking just for it. Then for the edges of ravines without brush/tall grass the search is from the side of the road looking down into the ravine that will show destroyed brush and crushed grass or the vehicle itself. And such a search would be from every road, ones on the map or one lane dirt tracks with grass down the middle.
@@mrkshply That would be a wild premise for a sci-fi show haha. aliens turn up and go "we like this bit here, you guys live over there now" *teleport*
There was the case where someone disappeared on their way home from a night out. And years later it was only solved with Google maps. The car went off the road into a pond, and no one could see it from the ground. Even in populated areas people can disappeared from an incredibly long time, when they are literally right there.
A retention pond in a neighborhood, no less. That one occurred to me, too.
One guy went off the road in a blizzard and was stuck there for like 4 days or something. He lived off of hot sauce packets. Ever since I heard that, I keep car snacks and water in the car at all times.
There's also a story of two girls who went missing on a drive home from a party. They were also found YEARS later at the bottom of a lake in their car. It's thought they mistook the boat ramp for a road.
Yeah, this is why 'nobody found a red truck with bones' isn't a valid reason to call this a hoax. There are other valid reasons, but not that one.
@@kassassin_brahgawkI remember that guy who.ate condiments to survive.
Simon, those aren't Handles.
Bears with ears is a cop that is listening to the CB.
Checkpoint Charlies is usually Department of Transportation officers at weigh stations
Flying donuts: Police Helicopter
Foxes in the Hen House: undercover/ unmarked police officers/cruisers
Kojacks with a Kodak is usually a speed trap or a cop with a radar/lidar gun
Much appreciated
@kingofhearts3185 of course. I've got a CB in my truck, so I've heard and made these calls, though they're less frequent now a days. Most of the callouts now are for traffic. No one keeps their ears on anymore, they all keep their heads on instead, and that isn't a compliment xD
@@anasynI kinda miss CB TBH. Was excellent for making regular road trips from Dallas to Albuquerque and back again. West Texas being flat really lends itself to high speeds (allegedly). So you could cut hours off the trip if you listened for cop locations. Allegedly.
Thanks for this! I am a HAM and occassionally hop on the CB spectrum.
@@jennaxoxox4821 lol.... Sounds like "crank transport support line" 😂
Look at Phillip Taylor Kramer. He drove to LAX and disappeared Feb '95. They found him May '99 at the bottom of a canyon near Malibu. If it took that long to find him in CA, I imagine it wouldn't be impossible for a wrecked truck not to be found in NM.
Some suggestions:
1. Could the dad have passed out but not died, then came around and driven off?
2. Could an adult have coerced the child into lying over the radio?
3. Could someone, for example a gang or cartel, have wanted to distract the police from another crime that was taking place in New Mexico at the time?
4. If it was in a ravine could the truck have drifted away?
Number 3 is an interesting option.
But that would bring more attention to the desert
4. easyly water/rain floods could have taken the truck and it could be in/on a off road
My hypothesis: the boy was real. The accident was real. The truck was in a ravine after the dry summer. Ravines can be nearly impossible to see at ground level and incredibly deep. Rain was the death knell. Flash flooding in the ravines is a serious danger. Once a flood is over, the ravine can be filled with sand and debris and look like just another part of the desert.
@@jennaxoxox4821 that and the truck could have been faded by trees/shrob and could have had water in the truck
Im native, grew up on a reservation, and all. All natives I've known and spoken to have no issue with military vehicles or equipment named after us. Especially the words and tribes that were chosen for this. (Apache, chinook, Iroquois, etc)
You have to remember that as much as ppl want to say that we are an extension of England, Americans and Canadians are a mix of everyone. I hate that the original 13 colonies have barely any native name landmarks. Half of the states are hybrid native names, majority of our landmarks here are named after us or our names that we called it.
I live in Rhode Island now. Tons of places and things with native names in New England- quahogs, Misquamicut beach, Connecticut, Adirondacks, Saco River, Manhattan, Nantucket, Lake Erie, Pawcatuck, Montauk, Mohegan, Quinnipiac, Penobscot, lake Taconic, Caribou , Mount Katahdin, Oneida, Poughkeepsie, Ticonderoga, moose, moccasin, kayak, canoe, Massachusetts, Niagara, chipmunk, opossum, skunk.
@@MimiYuYuopossum and skunk are native words??
@@Demonic_Tangskunk is from Algonquin -seganku- loosely meaning fox that sprays urine
Opossum is a Powhatan word meaning similar to white dog
Maine (which was originally part of Massachusetts and thus part of the 13 colonies), is full of rivers, mountains, lakes, and towns with Native American names.
Massachusetts-birthplace of both the American pilgrim mythos and the Revolution-is a native word! And a very early written language… the first Bible translated in Massachusett Algonquin was published in 1651. As a New Yorker, pretty much *every* body of water and geographic feature around here comes from Lenape (“Manhatta”) or Dutch (“Breukelen”). Short of “York” and “Jersey,” you would never guess the English were ever here. 🗽
I was instantly reminded of that Simpsons episode where Bart puts a radio in a well and pretends to be a little kid in the well, then ends up in the well himself
I was going to ask if the Simpsons had parodied this 😂
I had a CB radio with single side band and when signal skip was going on I use to talk to Ireland and England. I was in Central New Jersey and the signal was going 3300 miles (5310 KM). Normally when you were only able to talk locally the signal went maybe 20 miles (32 km). When I added an illegal 100 watt power booster I could talk out of state and on good days I could talk to most of Europe. I use to get a QSL card from the foreign stations to prove I actually spoke to these stations.
That's badass man.
My mum's husband (who worked for NASA at Tidbinbilla Tracking Station near Canberra, Australia during the moon landings) was also an avid CB-er and because of where he worked and the fact he was an engineer managed to get some serious distance out of his, too. Not Europe from Australia, but certainly as far as NE Asia.
That’s amazing, could an upside down truck in a ravine do that?
@@Bethgael Neat. Was his setup an upside down pickup truck?
These small rural volunteer fire department Where I grew up in Northern California Once got credit for a rescue in Colorado Because One of our guys Picked up a CB call from someone who was trapped in a vehicle that had crashed
Once the story of Larry had been forgotten there is every possibility that once the truck was found, no one would put together that it was the Larry truck.
No family to report them missing? No police to run the plates on the found car? They may not figure out it’s Larry, but they would have figured out it was two John does.
Lots of these counties in New mexico have corrupt cops that are few and far between maybe 6 for the county.
Fun fact, 20 years ago we took the test for our radio licenses in 6th grade science. I missed by one question, but wasn't too crushed. My best friend passed his because he was super into it, and during a hurricane (I want to say it was Katrina in 2005 but am not 100% on that), he was able to actually be the connecting party between emergency survices who couldn't quite connect to each other across the distance and was able to help a lot of people by relaying accurate messages.
Katrina. I was in Tennessee and y'all radio folks helped so much!
Citizen's Band radio was indeed a huge craze in the US '70s. Not only was there "Smokey & The Bandit" but it even inspired a hit song, "Convoy".
Today we have cell phones and GPS. Thankfully, this scenario would almost never happen if you can at least get a cell signal.
Great movie, "Convoy!"
If you're into going far off road and off grid for extended periods of time, might be a good idea to invest in one of those ~$100 satellite beacons. They'll work anywhere, no cell phone reception required.
Single dad with his son, no other family to report them missing?
As for the CB, mine is wired directly to the truck and doesn’t rely on internal batteries, so a few days of intermittent radio use isn’t outside the realm of possibility.
Would the school, or other friends not get suspicious?
Not to mention the dad’s work. I can understand single dad, no family they’re in contact with, kids not in school (it’s August after all so maybe they just didn’t come back). But dad certainly would have a job, a house, a landlord etc.
@settame1 If it had a camper, it could have beenn thier home new mexico has always been very transient place. It tends to be a place to disappear. I have known many people to walk to that wilderness and vanish
When I did a horse back ride in New Mexico the guide told us there was a huge volunteer group that takes their horses out to search when missing people are reported
Fun fact, with a good CB setup and the right atmospheric conditions, its possible to contact the International Space Station if its above you.
That was fun
This is one that I believe. The US wilderness is MASSIVE. If they were on a back road near a ravine and rolled down a hill when the dad had a health emergency, easily missed for 50 years.
i dont know a ton about "the wilderness" but you cant go hunting for rabbits just any old place right? Even in the expanses of new mexico, if you're looking for 1) a place that's a reliable enough rabbit shooting hunting ground to attract hunters to go and travel to, that also 2) has roads or trails wide and clear enough to drive a pickup truck down, does that not narrow it down to places that are comparatively frequently traveled compared to other random spots in the wilderness?
A rolling truck would almost surely lose its antenna.
@@user-zr9hu3tf1y I mean you can, you shouldnt, but you can. In my old neighborhood my fucking insane neighbor would hunt deer in a patch of woods between our neigborhood and an elementry school
Yep. I live near the Gila Wilderness, there's spots out there that humans rarely reach, with some areas not seeing humans for years
@@user-zr9hu3tf1ynot really. If you think about people still get lost and die in our national parks today…with our technology and mapping skills we still loose people. 50 years ago I absolutely believe we could easily loose a truck in all the blank space in New Mexico. It’s all mostly flat, so you don’t need a dedicated road, and there are plenty of places to roll a truck.
Outside of Silver City, NM, around the Pinos Altos mountains, I distinctly remember walking with my sister and our mothers friend in the woods to an area where there were two very rusted crashed and rolled over vehicles. One, an old yellow-ish beetle, the other was a completely rusted truck. For context, our mom’s friend would be in her late 40s now, born in ‘77, and these walks were mid 2000s. We used to try to get close to the cars, I think the Beetle we actually were able to access, but the only time we got close to the truck a mountain lion interrupted the exhibition. There was something very off about those cars, and I haven’t been for the better part of 17 years, but it’s still a very distinct eery memory I have.
You still in the area? Might be worth a look, if only for nostalgia.
@@kingofhearts3185 Unfortunately I live 900 miles away now. If I ever had the chance to go back, I would if only just to check.
@@venommisery24 That's a shame
@@venommisery24 I'm in the area - any chance you could give closer coordinates?
@@X85283 I haven’t been since I was a child, after a talk with my sister, she related that there’s a kind of rest stop, the rest stop had a bathroom (I know some don’t have restrooms) and after the rest stop the road splits in a fork, the left would be the one we would drive down and into the woods. There aren’t real landmarks. As I am no longer in contact with our mother due to foster care in adolescence, that’s about as much information as I know. She did say that our mother had tried to return last year and that the cars were gone. Our mother had been going out to those cars since before we were born so at least 27 years or more. I know it’s vague, but that’s as much as I know.
6:44 Thank god... I was sitting here thinking "please don't play a recording of that, please don't"
I remember when I was a student at WSU in Pullman, WA, after sunset, my radio could pick up radio stations down in Mexico 🇲🇽! I never knew why that happened until now. Thank you. I always learn something new here.
WAZZU!!
Years ago my friend with CB in his car used to drive to the highest mountain in Wales he could get to. He managed to talk to guys in Ireland & parts of Europe. What a Twunt!!
I’ve lived in New Mexico my husband is from there we still hunt in the national parks every year. You go off one of those mountain roads and just disappear. The forest is so thick and ridge lines are wicked.
Yes Simon, some of us remember a time before Game Boys or personal PCs, or the Internet. As an avid user of CBs back in the day, most CB aerials would be on top of a vehicle, so an upturned truck would not be able to transmit very far, certainly not from New Mexico to Canada.
there were handheld radios and if the truck had a booster it couldve still had a signal with the arial gone
I used to pick up very echoey transmissions from a trucker in virginia who would tell stories over cb and i live in northern pa
I used to use CB radios back then just with car batteries and a magnet antenna in my tree forts. Batteries would last quite a while too. Many of the folks in my area had magnetic antenna bases, so i could see the possibility that the antenna would still be in tact.
My grandpa had a friggin 65ft antenna in the back yard, along with a full size satellite dish and all set up himself. He could ping across the country at times.
@@thamojsterThis.
It could have been ripped or fell off if the car did indeed crash. It's not like those are welded on.
Breaker-breaker, this is Little Tosspot camping out in the granny lane, looking for help dealing with a local yokel who got me banged up in a bear cage, does anyone copy?
yo i googled this and Google has no idea what it's in reference to! plz help??
10-4 good buddy, but we got bears in the air here in Sin City, and I'm not looking for another driving award for triple digits. 3s & 8s to you. Shellbug 10-10 on the side.
@@mckymcobvious3043 Each of the terms are CB jargon. Google a list.
10-4, Tossie. Little Red here in the tundra. No bears in our woods. Roll down 94 to get clear. 😂
10-4 good buddy!
Despite the longer summer break, on average US kids only go about 10 less days than UK kids. US schools average 180 days and UK schools 190. UK gets an extra week off Christmas, they get Easter week off which the US doesn't, and they get a week long break between each trimester. I don't know how much variance there is in the UK or how things have changed over the years, but in the US there is either a decent amount of variance or it's just changed over the years. I know decades ago when I went, we had 200+ days of schooling because schools get paid per school day rather than a set amount of money for the year.
That’s interesting
If his name was Larry David, he could have been reprimanding himself. I had two friends that would say something like "Dammit Wagner, get your head in the game." despite nobody ever calling him Wagner.
I think people driving off the road getting into an accident and dieing and not being discovered for years is more common then people realize.
It's a horrifying concept likely easily dismissed by the brain as psychological self preservation.
That's just an idea.
true but did they all make radio contact for multiple days from a fixed location with a large multi-day search, not really the same scenario
For the David part, that’s easy. I had a stepdad (he and mom passed away last year) and since he wasn’t my dad, it felt weird to both of us to call him “dad” (even tho my bio dad was a POS I never saw). So I have always just called him Cliff. Unless your step parent marries your parent very early in life, then it’s pretty weird for both parties to want to have him called dad. Even my friends with dads they saw frequently called their stepdads by their name. For them, the idea was that they already HAD a dad who was a good guy and the stepdad didn’t want to try to take the place of a good man already in their life.
Anyway, that’s a very easy explanation for why the boy may have called his “dad” by his first name. People forget about step parents and the marriage failure rate WAY too often. Step parents deserve all the recognition in the world.❤
The US wilderness is absolutely massive, especially the west. Also, many people live, hunt, and recreate on BLM land and off regular roads on forest roads. There are dirt, gravel and rock roads all over the place. NM has a population density in 2024 of 17 people per square mile vs 291 in Pennsylvania. There are miles and miles of desert land out there. People still get very lost out here and starve to death or die of exposure. I have lived in California for 56 years and my family likes to drive off road. I have seen how remote these roads can be and how empty parts of the west are. I actually was following roads In Oregon thinking I could get us anywhere with a garmin map. It did show me forest roads or fire roads but did not tell me whether all these roads were open or clear. After clearing several small trees, we had to give up at a large tree across the road and turn around and backtrack.
I got routed down a forest road by my brand new car. Literally four weeks after getting my first car, a 2022 model 3 lr with 18,000 miles that honestly looked completely brand new. I had not enough battery and was on terrible but paved roads, and there was a gravel section maybe thirty feet then back to paved. And I made the mistake of not noticing that it was a forest service road and going onto it and jesus christ was that awful. I was on a forest service road going up the side of a frigging canyon wall for twenty effing miles maybe more. But I was finally five miles from a paved named road. And there was a damn rockslide across the road that forced me to turn around. It was sunset when I reached it and dark soon after especially as I descended back into the valley under the trees. Again I had only pushed on because my car was about to run out of battery and I didn't have a cell signal to get new routing information. There turned out to be a charger like literally twenty minutes down the road from where I went.
Because I had backtracked so far it also removed the routing information from my map even though it had already stopped displaying the map on the car. Which seems like a design flaw it should have offline maps at least of the local area around your existing route.
But anyways I was able to descend the road back twenty or thirty miles all the while hitting potholes and tree branches and gravel spitting out and hitting my car and nearly sliding off the road a couple of times where it was super narrow.
It was my first road trip alone, and my first time really driving my car other than to school and back.
At the top of the road where the rockslide was blocking it I had to make a fifteen point turn on the edge of a cliff to turn around it was terrible.
I somehow got back down, didn't get lost and turned down a other gravel service road or paved road In the middle of nowhere. There was a ranger station and campground I passed but it was closed and the campground was also closed. In one spot where it was paved it had a road narrows sign and then around the next corner there were cones set out and the side of the road had cracked on and was peeling away to fall into the creek bed below, and the other side was cracked pretty badly too. And then getting off of that steamboat creek road was just the Umpqua scenic byway which wasn't the most trafficked road ever either. But I did manage to get back to it where I would at least get help. I considered pulling over at a little inn or maybe it was just someone's house or a spa, and just asking to plug my car into their wall outlet for a few hours or getting their wifi to look up a map to a charger.
But I was stupid and it was after midnight and so I didn't. And got a signal 34 effing miles away from where I got lost was a massive supercharger with like 34 stalls and a dairy queen and subway both of which were closed.
And somehow my car didn't get a single scratch on it or any damage at all whatsoever. It was awesome.
Can confirm that living in Pennsylvania, despite most of the population density coming from a combination of Philly, Pittsburgh, the Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton area, maybe Reading, Lancaster, and State College… our “empty” areas aren’t very empty.
@@atashgallagher5139 that is enough to make anyone sell their car!
A child lost in New Mexico would be dead within a day or two. The daytime temps can reach well over 110 F and nights are freezing. Lost in the wilderness without water, a person would be too incoherent from heat stroke and dehydration to use a radio in a matter of hours.
For the record, accurately describing your location in an unfamiliar place and doing it well enough to summon help can be surprisingly difficult!
A couple of weeks ago, I had a tire on my car blow out when I was about 100 miles from home in an area I didn’t know well. I knew what highway I was on, including the nearest interchange and exit, and when I called for roadside assistance, I calmly described my location as precisely as possible, including the highway/exit information and two very distinctive local landmarks: the broadcasting tower of a local TV station that had the ID letters on it and a church with an elaborately decorated dome on the roof that turned out to be in a historic cemetery. The dispatcher recognized both landmarks. I was very clear about the fact that I was on the shoulder of the state highway, about 300 yards from the dome, next to an on-ramp that curved around the cemetery boundary.
It took nearly an hour for a tow truck to arrive from less than ten miles away. The dispatcher sent the truck to a residential address--some random house in a nearby neighborhood--and I couldn't direct the driver to my actual location because I knew nothing about the local street layout. The truck driver ended up having to get on the highway several exits behind me and retrace my route until he saw my car on the shoulder.
All this in a major urban area, with three calm adults using modern phone technology to communicate in broad daylight with clearly visible road signs and landmarks.
I can't imagine how hard it would be for a child in the dark, off a desert road, talking to a random person on a 1970s CB radio.
Hope this was a hoax.
It’s only been posted for 13 seconds, gotta get my fix
Ong here within 10 minutes
::slaps veins:: direct port simon injection
I was watching a different episode or I would have been here sooner!
@@combatmallon5436 *scratches neck furiously “yall got any more of that Simon?”
It took me a three whole hours to get here. I've got the Shakes.
As someone who lives in Albuquerque, went to school in Moriarty, and is MOVING to Tijeras this summer... hearing him say Tijeras was physically painful lmao (I get it tho but it cracks me up)
I always giggle when Simon tries to pronounce names from the SW.
Simon: "How hard is it to outsmart a seven-year-old?"
Me: [laughs evilly, remembering myself at that age]
My mom dated someone back in late 70s and he had a CB radio that he actually would be able to talk with people in Canada, Australia, and even Europe. We're in Washington State...the Pacific Northwest of the United States.
To answer the question posed about age of hunting, in Ohio I earned my hunting license by completing the hunter safety course at age 8. I didn't look up the minimum age but seven could definitely be an age where the dad is just taking the boy out to the woods for the first time without putting a gun in his hands and that was also in the '90s when I got my license who knows what it was in the '70s
Dude, you gotta remember how fucking big America is. I can believe it hasn’t been found.
Yeah Russia is tiny, Australia is small.
😂😂😂
I'm assuming there was a point to your statement.
@adriandavies4787 that it's easy for someone to have a reck in the middle of nowhere and not be found kinda surprised you didn't pick up on that smart ass
@@adriandavies4787oh, I didn't realize this was a story about a possible missing person in Australia and Russia.
The point is, as someone from the UK, Simon probably doesn't entirely grasp the scale of the US, because most people who live here can't.
So, for context, the UK has a land area of approximately 94k sq miles (243.6k sq km), and 66.97 million people. That's 712 people per square mile, or 275 per sq km.
By contrast, New Mexico alone is about 121.7 sq mi, or 315.2 sq km (about 30% more land mass), but only 2.113 million people (97% less), for a population density of 17/sq mi or 7/ sq km.
In case you still don't understand, more bigger + less people = more places to get lost.
@@adriandavies4787 They just found a plane a few weeks ago that crashed in 1971.
Okay but the range of a car CB radio doesn’t span the entire country.
Usually I agree with Simon's skepicism but I have longed believed this case to have been fumbled by the authorities at the cost of a little boy's life.
They had thousands searching on the ground as well as airborne searches, and they even went so far as to investigate almost certainly pointless leads. That's fumbling a case?
Some stupid high standards you have.
@@supermexicanroboninja3116as stated in the video, there were several areas that got searched multiple times and some areas not searched at all.
@@dismurrart6648 I don't think they took the time to watch the entire video before going after my comment. That's typical lol.
My #1 thought has been: what EXACTLY was the conversation that led them to only search in NM? Did they ask him where he was and he answered with where he lived? They had been driving, so its entirely possible they were in another state.
Fumbled what? A search for a child who may have been named Larry or David or maybe something else, who refused to give his last name, who might been somewhere in New Mexico or maybe not, whose dad may or may not have been dead, who may have been trapped inside a truck or standing outside of it, and who was consistently switching channels? Edited: I forgot to add while dipshit "pranksters" were also pretending to be maybe Larry.
My dad was an avid radio enthusiast as a kid - he’s also an avid prankster and named Larry. I just asked him if he was lost boy Larry - he didn’t say no. 🤔
To the point of guns and children. Teaching them gun safety is important. I was 10 when my dad taught me how to handle a firearm safely.
I don't feel the need to own a gun, but I won't be flagging someone on occasions that I handle one. Even after I make sure it is cleared.
Be safe. Be neighborly. 🇨🇦
Especially if the kid was just along for the trip with the dad basically just saying watch and learn.
Good for you. I’m 40 and I’ve never touched a gun and I’m happy about that. Also I see that flag of yours is NOT from the country with the highest rate of gun violence IN THE WORLD by a long shot.
So I’m going to keep shaming people using a document that was talking about the right to own a MUSKET as also covering their asses for owning 47 guns of which 20 are AR-15’s.
But hey there, you do you. Not like it’s impacting all your kids to the point where kindergartners have to learn active shooter drills right?
After watching several several videos of missing persons cases being solved by the vehicle being found in bodies of water, it may be possible that this is true. Just that torrential downpour could have moved the vehicle from it's original position. It takes, from what I remember, only a few inches of water to move large objects. As for no one being reported missing whether dad or son, could they have been living off the grid?
Very possible, as there was barely a grid to be on back then. And yep, 100% correct about the water.
Or if the dad and son were the only members of the family? No mom, no siblings, disconnected from relatives or deceased? Then no one would be around to report them missing.
I hadn’t thought of the possibility that a flash flood moved the truck, but that’s a good theory.
We had a CB growing up. It was mainly to keep tabs on our traveling family. Every now & again, we'd chat with truckers passing through.
We kept a list of family handles and channel numbers. If we were bored, we'd get on and ask where everyone was from and where they were going. I want to say the farthest route was a woman and her dog traveling from Maine and heading to Salt Lake City. She was Chickadee and her doggo was Charlie.
Our Family Handles - Westward Walter (Dad), Mikey Mic (Brother), Oh, Suzanna (sister), Oh, Sherry (Mom), and Sweet Sassy (me).
My grandfather was able to talk to Australia (from Canada) using CB. His setup was absolutely not just a small unit in a vehicle though. He had a huge tower with a massive antenna.
Simon…. Even with your seat belt off, you can absolutely be stuck in a car. The crash can cause the metal frame to warp. Unless you are strong enough to bend metal, you can get stuck. That’s why having a tool that can break a window is very useful in a car. (Car glass is also very hard to break without a tool).
And also it was a little kid, not an adult.
This is my favourite channel that Simon hosts. Keep up the great work!
For me its definitely in my top 10
Agreed... partly because it's been my experience that, among Simon's writers, this and The Casual Criminalist have the researchers most determined to not fall for common misconceptions and partly because the format lends itself well to enjoying Simon's personality. (I know where I can find find material from people who actually work in relevant fields if I care about accuracy above all else.)
New Mexico is in the Southwest US. It’s a medium sized state.
My Dad had a CB radio. We’d oft pick up people from miles away-depended on the strength of the signal. Dad had a commercial antenna.
Its the 5th biggest State by size.
@@rolkflameraven1483 As a Texan, I’m agreeing New Mexico is medium sized.
At this point someone needs to say " let's remember Nancy Cartwright at the age of 67 does the voice of Bart Simpson. Oh so obviously a fake CB transmission.
The problem with skipping your signal is that it needs more power than your typical vehicle setup. Larry is almost certainly using a base station.
My dad had a base station in the family van with a screw-on antenna for local and DX'ing. It definitely was RARE, your average city enthusiast probably didn't bother, and we'd take the antenna down when we entered a big city (us kids did, dad didn't want to climb on top of the van) but if you live way out and you use CB as your main means of communication, as my family did in the 70s and 80s, and even into the 90s, then I would say "plausible."
@@rhov-anion how well would that work if the van was upside down?
5W and a half decent antenna is plenty if the conditions are right - ionospheric reflection doesn't depend on signal power. With CB being around 11m wavelength, those antennas won't be tiny, but they can be quite manageable even on a vehicle.
@@jandl1jph766 sure that all sounds good but remember the antenna would be under the truck, likely broken off and/or buried in the ground.
@@X85283 provided it's wired correctly the CB would work "ok".
A good car antenna is in the wiring. The port where you screw is for Signal boosting.
Even rolled over and broken off you should still be able to send and receive you'll obviously have diminished range but you shouldn't have actual electrical issues.
I've heard of this and I think it is a hoax but a truck can disappear especially if it's a four wheel drive. Even without four wheel drive, a truck can travel off road easier than a car.
Great story, and the best closing line in a decoding episode. The only other factor i can think of is if this really was a small boy who could barely work a radio, he could have been mistaken about where he was. I live in colorado, and used to take road trips with my dad all over the state, and he would say all kinds of nonsense about where we were. He would tell me thing like we are almost to Canada or california when we were in the mountains barely an hour away. I'll bet if this kid was real he was actually in California mountains where the first broadcast was received, and as such a young kid really didnt know where he was for any myriad of reasons a small kid may think he's in another state. Just a theory of course.
My step-dad received a distress call from a ship while in the cost guard and the information from the ship wasn't making sense until they figured out the ship was off the coast of Washington State and my step-dad was on the Great Lakes. The atmosphere had skipped the signal from the Pacific Coast to the Midwest. Once they figured that oit, my step-dad alerted the appropriate office of the coast guard and assistance was provided.
CB hooked through truck power could last quite a while. Also, the Simpson did a similar thing with Bart in a well. My friend’s brother had a CB in his bedroom that used house power, so a hoax could last a long time.
Back in 2008-2010ish, I was driving across 3 states monthly. I desperately wanted a CB radio to talk to the truckers who legitimately saved my life without even knowing it. Following them, I drove through mountains, snow storms, extreme fog, etc. I still wish I had a CB at the time just to thank them all.
You can get a small handheld one that runs off of AA size batteries or plugs into the 12V socket in your car. I have one that I carry in my personal vehicle. Normally I run it off the car’s power, but if I ever needed to take it with me it can run on its internal batteries. Obviously it’s not as powerful as the one that’s hard wired to my company truck and has dual 5’ antennas, but it’s still good for a couple of miles of range depending on the terrain.
What impresses me about this channel is the deep dive into content I would probably never have heard about otherwise. The coverage is comprehensive, intelligent, and intriguing. Well done Simon & Co
Kids, in America, go hunting very early. Alot before they are 5. I shot my first weapon and had it as my own before I was 10.
Not unheard of in conservative households and country families
Not unheard of in school shootings either
Strangely countries where children aren't given guns have less gun violence....or none...in schools
Simon at 6:16 the CB conversations involving bears with ears checkpoint Charlies Flying Donuts where talking about Police.
I think it is entirely plausible that this story is true. But also that prabksters screwed it up, making any real progress impossible.
A truck tumbling foen a ravine, in New Mexico may not be found for decades, if ever. Especially if they were driving down a dirt road to go hunting, it may have even been a private road that no one else had access to.
As for no one matching the description going missing, they may not have had anyone to file a missing persons report. If the father was a single father and didnt talk to any other family, who would even know?
And my daughter is 7. I could totally see her refusing to give her name because she's not supposed to tell strangers her name. If i allow myself a little speculation, its possible the guy was one of those preppers, especially in the 70s, at the height of the Cold War, and if he didn't trust the government, teaching his son to use a fake name and not give out info may have been driven into his brain.
Exactly, it also doesn't help that New Mexico is friggin massive. Like the size of European countries massive, a lot of people forget that/can't visualize it. Like imagine hearing a kid went missing in Germany, and the had to search nearly the entire country. But now imagine it's about 5x more sparsely populated with meandering dirt roads leading to nowhere in particular.
Lots of rural roads in America and abandoned Strip jobs ( Mountaintop Removal for Coal or maybe other crap too I'm not a miner ) or old logging roads etc... and the boy may not have been in New Mexico at all depending on how high up in altitude and maybe whoever owned the truck had a range extender type deal for the CB ( don't know if those existed then, just saying maybe )
How many centuries did children hunt with their parents? I can see both sides of this one. I went shooting with my World War II veteran Grandfather when I was between 8 and 11 several times. I've never shot anyone or shot anything up. If anything, it taught me a greater respect for firearms than many of my friends and it showed me how to properly handle them.
I first read this as ''how many centuries did children hunt their parents''. And was a little concerned.
I started duck hunting with my dad and uncles at about age 10 with my own 12 gauge shotgun. When I killed my first duck at around age 11, I knew right then it wasn't for me. I am definitely not anti-hunting and I do love meat, but I realized that killing animals just wasn't my thing. I own guns today but purely for the sport of target competitions.
@@valolafson6035 Surprisingly, mom's are harder to to track than dads.
@@danidavis7912 I've never hunted. We were supposed to go hunting when I turned 18 but my grandpa died before that could happen. I still have the shotgun he left me though.
@@WilliamBrownMBA I still have the single shot, 12 gauge my dad bought for me at a garage sale for $7.00 USD. I haven't fired it in decades but I still hold it near and dear to my heart.
10:55 Man, every time I've called 911 I have to waste precious time telling the situation, then being transferred to the right area where I have to repeat myself. It's so inefficient.
Why are you calling emergency services so often mate?
That's not normal.
I've had to call them twice in my life and I'm nearly 50
I'm inclined to agree with @adriandavies4787. I'm a professional driver, and I only need to call 911 once or twice a year for an accident on the highway or an extremely obvious drunk. Never had to call them from home.
I know what you mean. I think it's normal to have to call now and then for something like an intoxicated driver, or a domestic that looks bad. It's so bizarre how long it takes for them to know where you are and to understand the situation at hand. I've read claims that it's a pretense of gathering basic information to keep people calm, but that sounds like hillocks to me, as most people are impatient and being transferred to someone else asking for the exact information you already gave someone else is infuriating.
@kyletwarog8782 curious about the automatic weapon story
I live in virginia USA I worked at a cb shop, some nights I could pickup and talk to a guy in Mexico, we had 150f aentena and amplifier, but I have heard those same types of broadcast on regular CB radios for hundreds of miles
Given how much this kid was crying the whole time, this feels a lot like a kid who got kidnapped into some trafficking ring or something and was trying to escape, but wasn't giving all the information because a)he didn't want to get in trouble with his abusers or b)he didn't want to get his abusers IN trouble.
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As a lifelong resident of New Mexico... How the hell have I never heard of this??
Right?! And my entire family is FROM these places specifically mentioned. I'm going to ask if they remember this.
I'm confused about the portable CB radio part because plenty of in truck radios run off the power of your vehicle, wouldn't it be the truck battery that would have been drained within those 4 days?
I'm a grown woman but I can easily mimic the voice of a small child. I was big into drama in highschool and i love doing voices. I never would because its seriously messed up but i could easily pull off a similar hoax. I think it's likely the most convincing of the broadcasts were a woman with similar interests but lacked the moral values that keep most people from getting joy out this sort of thing
Let's not forget that New Mexico is BIG... The size of your average European country big, while being far less populated.
It's totally plausible and even quite likely for a truck to crash into a ravine in the wilderness and totally disappear from the face of the Earth.
My brother had a some type of long range radio set up. It wasn´t a CB but the neighbors got fed up with his tower. He used to be able to talk to people even out on ships on the Pacific (including occasional Russian fishing boats, which was wild, their english was hilariously awful and his russian nonexisitant). Then he had to take everything down and sell it. Sad, since he had worked so hard to get his license and his permits and enjoyed the contact so much (Ham radio, that was it). I suspect it was the neighborhood busybodies that hated the way the tower looked.
18:00 the Native American tribes all got angry when they made the Cobra helicopter and didn’t name it after a tribe, after that it became part of the official DOD rules that all helicopters must be named to honor native tribes and coordinate with them to select the name appropriately .When a new helicopter is released the tribe is coordinated with and usually there’s a big blessing ceremony for the helicopter. I saw the blessing ceremony for the Lakota helicopter 🚁 it was freaking huge and so elaborate. It might seem strange but there’s a very deep respect for all the tribes and their fighting spirit that has come to be in modern American military ranks
Yes, most 18 wheeler trucks/lorries had CB radios, but my parents, ex-hippie turned yuppies, had a CB radio in their car back in the day. It was helpful to monitor the channels, as truck drivers would routinely broadcast where the law enforcement speed traps were set up, so drivers could slow down to not be caught speeding. And being a kid of 8 or 9, my handle was The MotorMouth, which I only talked on once or twice. As a side note, one of my favorite movies, to this day, is "Convoy." Simon, if you've never seen it, I highly recommend it as a good way to kill an hour and a half. Ali McGraw is stunning, and Kris Kristofferson is handsome and funny. Hugs, all.
I'd like to offer, that back then, there was no coordination between individual police departments, nor did we have The Missing Child Program. I was born in the late 60s and remember when they started using milk cartons in schools with missing children's pictures on them.
Were there any reports of a missing father and son? With all the media coverage, wouldn't somebody come forth and say, hey, that could be Larry and his dad, the ones who never came back from their hunting trip?
It's possible there was no one to report them missing if there wife/mom was died and no other family or lost contact.
@@jedijessic Good point.
If you are taking a trip that will put you in a more remote area contact someone and leave details of where you're going and when you are expected to be back. It only takes a few minutes to do so and can potentially save your life if things go south. If you develop a pattern of doing this and you arrive back when you say you will, if anything goes awry a search and rescue will likely follow within less than 24 hours.
In elementary school in the 90s, we had a teacher who taught us about several different things using HAM (not CB) radio.
It was a lot of fun for a class of 6th graders to talk to people around the country and the world. I still remember our call letters! 😂
Yay, another Danny DTU script! Just in time, my pizza's ready
An fbi agent went missing back in the '40s here in my home county in nw Colorado, ravine country. His truck and body were found in the mid '90s. If real, those bodies may be just 40 ft off the road. Always check tire tracks seen heading off the road in sketchy spots, kids...
We’re sending all our love down the well!
Always a good time when we get a script from Danny!
I’ve driven in South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. It’s *insane* how vast and empty those states are. It’s likely just as empty in much of New Mexico. Most roads off the highway are small and lots are unpaved and rarely maintained. You can easily just disappear out in the Badlands, and doubtless in the southwestern deserts as well.
CB radio was huuuuge in the 80s. My dad’s mate had a room ceiling to floor with radio gear. Loads of his mates had a set too as they were either bikers or truck drivers 😎
Oh and the film Convoy had a lot to do with it too. Cmon in rubber duck!
Absolutely love Simon has his own tangent music.
I'm from New Mexico. I'm obsessed with this story. I believe it's true. I love hearing the different stories and opinions. Also, as a Mescalero Apache, I love that different things, places, etc. are named after Native American tribes. I think it's neat. Thank you for your telling of the story. NM is a strange, mysterious and beautiful place in this world!! ❤️
People from Europe don't seem to understand how massive the US wilderness is. New Mexico's wilderness is larger than the entire country of England. There are fringe areas that cross borders between states with no discernable markers or highways. I have only flown over it, but it is jawdropping how much empty space there is between Illinois and California. From a plane, the US looks underpopulated (though much of that wilderness is uninhabitable due to lack of resources and feasible transportation).
I got my ears on son but I'm 1010 on the side 🤣
*Well Simon has clearly never seen Smokey and the bandit or convoy or any of them old classics. 🤣🤣🤣
*In all seriousness though if he was telling blue eyes that he didn't really know how to use the radio and channel hopping was a problem I feel like blue eyes would have pointed that out and told him to stop messing with the damn knobs. Stop giggling I mean switches . Then he won't give any last name or anything and this whole thing just sounds suspicious. I don't think he's real
4 days isn't a long search.
My aunt went missing near broken Hill in nsw Australia.
Nearly 6 weeks of ground and air searches and the person that found her body and the car was not part of the searches and just happened to be in the right place to see the car from the right angle.
My Dad drove semis; his handle was "Baby Huey". My uncle drove for the same company, and I'm pretty sure his handle was "Heiny" -- his name was Henry and he had a thick German accent despite 30 years in the US, so...
I don't remember how old I was when my daddy taught me to handle a gun, though I was quite young. I was 15 when I sustained a traumatic brain injury, and maybe a year after that he took the family out for target practice, when something happened and we decided as a family that it's no longer safe for me to handle a gun, though I had been doing so safely for years at that point. I don't remember that incident either, only the aftermath, so I choose to believe my parents made a sensible decision.
P.S.: We live in New Mexico. I was 1 year old when this case went down.
Simon, I don't speak for all natives, but I think naming military helicopters after native tribes was supposed to be a compliment, referencing their ferocity and ability to traverse difficult terrain.
I don't personally see it as much of an honor, but there are worse things.
I am now thinking I want to look around to find how people in Native communities view that practice. But as someone not from those communities, Ive always thought it was cool to name those military things using names that only only exist here, that are uniquely American.
I also want to go dig deeper into this story, but it reminds me of a cool thing I heard about. In world war 2, the allies would always make new codes for secret messages, because the nazis would always eventually break them, since that was obviously constantly happening on both sides. So one idea the US tried I guess, was simply translating secret messages into, I think it was Cherokee? And the nazis never were able to break those messages. Ive always thought that was so damn cool
I'm Irish, I would it would be analogous to the English naming like a battleship something like "HMS Celtic"
Which.... although it wouldn't be offensive, would seem a lil whitewashy from a nation whos passed culture was pretty set on exterminating my own country's past culture.
@@Palemagpie The military isn't meant to put a smiley face on people. Stop being so sensitive.
Or, maybe, HMS Ulster. Which feels like something the UK has actually called a ship
@@user-zr9hu3tf1yNavajo?
I loved having a CB so much!! It was basically social media before social media.
Were I a CB operator in that situation, I would have told the boy to exit the car (Larry did say at one stage he was outside the vehicle) and read out the pickup truck's license number. This would have established credibility with the police, who would have then found out who the car was registered to and followed up.
The C.B. users actually went outside. So...
Where else are you gonna lead hitchhikers to their doom...
I could see the truck never being found as possible even if it's unlikely, and the child seemingly making it 5 days with no water in summer while trapped in a cab could be explained by liars impersonating him on the radio, which would also explain away inconsistencies in the story. But what convinced me that it was a hoax was partly that he never gave a last name (even to police) and mostly that no missing persons were ever linked to the case. Even if the name 'Larry' wasn't correct a father and son going missing in their red truck that had a CB radio in New Mexico plus a narrow time window for the disappearance wouldn't be that hard to figure out after the fact, even if they were to late for a successful rescue. There's been plenty of time to find a connection. I don't find the one possible match mentioned very convincing.
Yup, i can see a truck in the wilderness never being found but that there was no missing persons case that could be linked makes it too implausible as a real story. A unhinged parent or caregiver or even older sibling pressuring/scaring a young child into the hoax as a way to feel famous is far more plausible. I suspect the only way we would know the truth in that situation is a deathbed/later life confession.
16:42 to better answer Simon's confused question, in the US truck us more of a general term to describe a vehicle with a considerable cargo capacity. These can be further broken down into categories such as..
Private truck (silverados, rams, dodge, and Toyotas)
Comercial trucks (thinks delivery box trucks)
Semi trucks (lories in Europe) with the standard 53 ft trailer
I really love the whimsical music that cuts in for Simon's anecdotal theories
Wow! The chatty beardman strikes again! Well done! 👌👍