1920's Avery wheat threshing machine powered by steam engine at Schumacher Farm
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- Demonstration of threshing machine at Schumacher Farm outside Waunakee Wisconsin. Narration by Bob Forbess, video production by Roger at BindlProductions.com, with Binder machine clips from John Gaska.
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As a modern farmer I appreciate these snapshots of our heritage. I was just at the Canada outdoor farmshow last week ogling the new CR11 and X9 combines, and if you stick your head up the arse-end and into the side panels, it's still a similar view as inside that old thresher. I will say, from my point of view the camaraderie of harvest-time hasn't been "lost," that's still your community, it just shows itself in different ways. People are perhaps more likely to be preoccupied with their own harvest but we'll still be discussing yield, moisture, and other field conditions, and it is still common/ necessary at times to lend neighbours your labour, driving buggies etc. Something that has definitely been lost, which is what drove farmers to the combine in the first place, is the economics of family farming. My farm is lucky to have livestock, but the average cash-cropper I know has 500-1000 acres, a ~300HP combine... and a day job to help support themselves, meaning they can only farm after hours. Which is another reason why you lend your neighbours help- like I say it's just changed.
Grain binders and threshing machines were in use in my experience until the early 1960s in Upstate New York. It was a cheap way to harvest for farmers with smaller tracts of perhaps 15 to 25 acres of grain.Typically the grain binder was hauled by a tractor, and the last time I was in a threshing gang the machine was run from the power takeoff of an Allis-Chalmers tractor. Sometimes we would blow the straw into the second floor of a barn. Other times the straw was blown on the ground where awhile later the farmer would bale it. We usually had our big meal at midday because there was milking to be done in the early evening.
This a fantastic explanation of what's going on with a threshing machine. Thanks so much for your time and sharing your knowledge.
nice Steam- and Threshing-Mashime
Great piece of history
What a GREAT overview our grandmother had one on her farm and being younger have never seen on in action but having a "walk though" and explain how it worked is GREAT!
Steam engines and motors are amazing.
Thank you for a very pleasant video. Something was definitely lost when people no longer had to come together and cooperate to help each other through life. Now everyone is a stranger and a threat, met at the door with distrust.
We made our life's easier with technology, but we lost the meaning of life...
I testify my respect to the past generations.
always a good time in feeding one of these at the tractor shows. a friend of mine told me to cut the bundles and feed them slowly. and always check inside for critters before powering up.
That was very informative. I can't imagine ANYONE downvoting this video.
Thanks bob. Keep well
Thank you for sharing sir.
With how expensive farming is, i think its possible to live this lifestyle again with small town farmers
The top part of the machine, where the 3 knives are located, is commonly referred to as the gazinta box. McCormick Deering first coined this term in sales literature around 1906 to 1908. Farmers in that era were calling it by many different names, however it was Cyrus Hall McCormick who hit upon this term and it stuck! The reason is quite simple. He stated, "" Its the part where the material for threshing gazinta the machine!" Hence The Gazinta Box
I realize that this video was a few years ago. However, I Grew up knowing about the BINDER, THRASHER and the most dreaded part of that operation "THE GRAINERY". It is interesting to see the lingo from different places for the similar things. As an example the BINDER dropped sieves (bundle) some times singly and with more modern ( I think in 1930 era)"the tines " which grouped the sieves on a device that was tripped by the rider on the BINDER then followers us youngsters would sack into strookes . Either horse or traction engine drawn . Now to put another twist on the BELT, please do not shoot me, the twist in the belt made it track on the pulley's easier. Those whom have had to track flat belts would understand trying to align a belt 50 feet away..Most of the power sources that drove the Threshing machine had reversible pulleys JD and case non steam being the exception . I miss the crop off eras hay, grain and corn. How many farmers now carry a roll of butt coupons? Us old guys know which side on a burdock leaf to use, one side smears. Fortunately the social media that I enjoyed growing up was by far better than today, every neighbour was a parent ,friend 0r just an actual helping hand . I miss that wor ethics.
Thank you for this. The subtitles were amusing.
10 out of 10! This was interesting and informative; my dad and uncle were of a generation where a man could make a living and support his family of 3 kids without mum having to go to work, from a 50 acre farm. How things have changed from a people-oriented society to totally profit-oriented. Sad.
Thank you, sir - that was helpful and informative.. The sense of rural togetherness continues today as governments close down small schools, post offices and railway stations. As you said, more efficient but far less personal. Col, NZ.
2024 I hope people my age keep these living museum peaces alive
Many of the machines, including the threshing machine, are finally coming together at the Schumacher Farm. They built a barn to put all the old equipment on display. But documenting people like Bob in this video has become even more timely. Not a many around that can tell the stories from experience.
Steam engine turns either way. But always want to run with a twist in the belt to get a better wrap on the pulleys and to also prevent whipping in the wind.
Most steam engines turn counterclockwise when moving forward, but clockwise when belted up. That’s so you can run with a twist in the belt.
Very well presented.
Polarpablo. My father, born in southern Illinois called it thrashing, but then 40 acres of corn is pronounced "farty acres of carn" there.
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THAT IS SO COOL
thanks. that was very interesting
That is a avery threshing machine not a case
Thanks for the catch Alan. I'm not sure how I missed that. Bob even says Avery at the 3:29 point in the video. I corrected the title just now.
This is history technology process combines.
Great Video, I am restoring an Avery 22x36 almost just like the one you have. Do you know of anyway to date it from its serial number? Thanks
I don't know about dating them. People at Schumacher farm might but I'm not sure how to contact the correct person. I'm guessing Internet search would tell?
***** I wish it was as easy as an internet search. You can find Engine and tractor numbers on here but thresher numbers are hard to find. I know threshers like the one in this vid were made as early as the #30 catalog of 1927 but not sure how much earlier. The one I am working on differs for the one you show as mine has many of the features of the older wood machines but made of metal. I just keep asking every owner of an Avery I find so maybe someone will tell me someday? Thanks.
We had a Marshall thrasher about twice the side of the one shown used to be driven by a traction engine
Gordon Exmouth UK
Hi Mr Forbes. May I impose upon you a question I have had for 60+ years. Story has it from my Grandmother that a great great uncle was killed by a thresher in the 20’s or 30’s on the family farms 90 miles north of Toronto, when he wasn’t paying attention and put his hand on the belt and it took him in the machine, but I don’t see how that is possible. Have you ever heard of such an accident ?
I produced this video and haven't seen Bob very often since. If/when I do I'll ask, but I have had relatives that lost fingers and nearly pulled into similar farm equipment and almost died. I've seen forks get pulled from hands into this type of threshing machine and could see how it could happen to a person that reach in too far to retrieve the fork - I think it could happen and when it does it does so quickly.
Brilliant, think me & my lad found a bit of a threshing machine recently if anyone can shed light from a picture?
May I use a minute of your threshing video in a history video I am making? Of course, you will be given credit.
Nice
Bread does not fall from the sky.
They actually had combines in the 1920s
And the grain goes in "moonge moonge moonge".
did they really pronounce it 'thresh', I have always heard it pronounced as 'thrashing' even though the spelling suggesting otherwise. just like in the old saying, 'you're gonna get a thrashing!'
polarpablo Interesting point. They had combines when I was a kid, so I don't know, but I see in Wikipedia it was once called thrashing... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshing_machine - I also looked into bundles and shocks when doing video on 1930's Deering-McCormick binder and saw terms were different and mixed around occasionally. I constantly get terms mixed up so I can see how some over time could get changed by accident. Fun stuff. :)
Pog wheat
Nice