The *Flip 4* is still the best speaker in the JBL Flip line-up without any doubt, though the Flip 5 sounds marginally better... less bright. I got mine in India for $91 in November 2019 but the price went up to $110 after that and has pretty much remained there. (In India) The reason is, while the Flip 5 sounds good, it is not better... in fact it is a major step backwards. . The Flip 4 is stereo, the Flip 5 is mono. . The Flip 4 has a mic, it is an excellent speaker phone. The 5 doesn't have a mic! . The Flip 4 also has a bass boosting feature. Press the Bluetooth and the Volume down button for about 10 seconds and you enter Extra Bass Mode. . The Flip 4 ports are covered with a watertight flap. The 5 has them exposed. How waterproof can that be? . Flip 4 has a 3.5mm / Aux In port. The 5 doesnt! Though it is BT 4. The Flip 4 has a bright sound and a very tight bass and open mids. (I reduce the treble a tad, with my phone's eq, just a small step and it sounds perfect. For speech and muffled recordings, it is crystal clear as is. It also has 2 active drivers and 2 passive bass radiators. The Flip 5 has one active driver, however it charges via type C, sounds good and looks as good as the 4, though slightly larger. The 3.5 aux input is essential for watching video without lag / latency. This speaker is a perfect blend of sound and size, portability, compatibility, style and ruggedness. It has an IPX7 rating and it lives up to it. Battery life is fine, not great, for either. The price, at $90 is fair. And if you can by any chance place it in a corner, it blows the lid off much larger speakers! This is a small speaker you will fall in love with, can carry around and never tire of! 4/5*. 1/2 off for the average battery and 1/2 off for being a fraction too bright. Flip 4 rules! **** 😊 _
@@pmAdministrator The problem is the people who have invested in more expensive connect + speakers (as in dropped almost $1000 like my family) can no longer connect our old speakers to the new ones. I don't know why they did this, connect + works perfectly. I do suppose that with the new IOS 13 update you could connect your phone to a connect + and a party boost speaker so it would work that way, but they got everyone hyped up and then changed the design!
Maan, i just ordered a flip 5... i really regret my decision... i should have just bought the flip 4. I was really hoping the flip 5 had google assistand or siri and now it doesnt even have a microphone... its very disappointing... but the sound is slick though !!! Edit: 3 months later, i actually change my mind... for less than a hundred dollars, the jbl flip 5 is a beast... i really dint feel like the microphone was necessary... amazing for the price and anyone should go for it... usb c is also amazing to have as u need only one charger for all yur devices
I was reading first comment section and I was like...damn.... then I read the edited part and now I deelt better, waiting for my flip 5 which arives tomorrow....
I got the Flip 5 after I traded a half cart for my friends flip 4 and I gotta say, the flip 5 is way better in sound quality, the sound is sharper, the base is more defined, overall it's much better sound quality than the flip 4
I used F4 for more than a year and am more than happy with this speaker. Every day at least 4 hours. Only recently, the battery finally said that it’s enough, and died safely. I easily replaced it with a new one from Aliexpress. The best is the enemy of the good, so I stay with Flip 4.
Thanks for the video. I just want to add that the Flip 4 has 2 drivers while the Flip 5 has only has one and therefore is not capable to deliver stereo sound if you only have one speaker. For playing classical music and acoustic jazz, I believe Flip 4 might perform better. Thank you again for the clear video.
mattchu 5.56 Just received my new JBL flip 5, wanted to let you know it does come with a cable, so even if you don’t have it, they’ve got you covered:)))
Went for the 5. Really love the pink colour they have. Actually, it is a real improvement the Bluetooth doesn’t connect with my phone when someone calls me. I used to have JBL Charge 3, and what was super annoying was that every time I received a call, it would be on speaker immediately. And now, with Flip 5, it’s not the speaker that rings, the music stops and your actual phone rings. Personally, I love this feature. Moreover, it’s perfect for me because I don’t really use Siri. So would recommend 5 :) One last thing - guys don’t worry about the cable if you are wondering whether to get a Flip 5. It comes with it’s own cable, you don’t have to own one yourself in order to be able to charge it! Cheers
I've had both in front of me, and sat through several songs between the two, and the difference in sound quality was really noticeable to my ears. The flip 4 is better, imo. The flip 4 gives you the complete sound, is clear, and for me has enough bass. It can get a bit nebulous in the high's at the highest volume, but it's not so bad that it ruins the listening experience. If you want quality and clarity of sound, and enjoy songs with a rich and varied soundscape, the Flip 4 is damn near perfect. The flip 5 just squashes everything into one speaker, so you won't get all the intended sounds out of it, just the reinforced bass and sturdier beats. If you don't care about how the music was intended, but just want higher volumes with stronger bass and beats, then Flip 5 is for you... But I'd say you're completely nuts to choose it over the Flip 4. And besides, there's more punchier bass based speakers out there, if that's your thing.
I honestly think if you're watching movies on Netflix, the Flip 5 is much better. The fullness of movies is amazing from it. If you're listening for music, the flip 4 is best. I agree with you about the full sound. So I have both. I use the 4 for music and 5 for movies.
Flip 4 all day. I absolutely HATE what JBL did with the Flip 5 and Charge 4! Mono garbage only works with rap and hip-hop music. But for literally anything else with good use of instruments and good vocals you need a duel driver setup in stereo. No you can't hear the separation, but yes you can hear a more open sound stage. Mono just combines both channels into one making for a very compressed sound. It ruins allot of songs. When I had my Charge 4 I couldn't stand the way it sounded so much so that I actually sold it off and purchased another Charge 3 while I still could haha. Should've kept my old Charge 3 and never bothered to buy the Charge 4. I love JBL's products. But I'll go with another brand before I buy another BT speaker. I'll go with JBL again if they go back to a stereo setup. The oval driver is a good idea but it should have been two higher wattage, higher excursion, smaller oval drivers playing in stereo. This way you get a larger surface area then with two round speakers. It would've been a true improvement VS a step back. Also taking out the speakerphone function was the dumbest thing they could've done. At least drop the price if your going to take away features!
Thanks for this. I've watched a few reviews so far and it seems I should get the Flip 4 over the 5. I want the portability as compared to the larger Charge 3 and 4. BTW, is any other company doing a similar speaker, but with Bluetooth 5.0 and stereo?
I just got a Flip 4 for black friday. I immediately returned it and ordered a Flip 5 instead because it's bluetooth range was much worse than my old Flip 3, and the audio wasn't really better. I'm excited for the flip 5 because of the improved audio, and the USB C (Same as my Note 9). My Flip 3 died because the charge port got ruined from my sticking my micro usb in there backwards so many times. Cons: I'm going to miss the speaker feature because I won't be able to answer calls in the shower anymore Edit: I got the Flip 5 and it's bass is kick-ass. Total audio quality improvement over the Flip 3 and 4.
yep. Flip 4's BT range is not great. Plus I could not use connect+ freely inside a house or in a backyard probably due to walls, plants, whatever (again range) . Looking forward to Flip 5's partyboost. not sure if this is good enough though.
The problem I had with the flip 5 is that it only played one channel (right or left). Mono is suppose to play both channel signals through one speaker correct?
Like I say in the video, it depends on what you care about -- sound or features. If you care more about features, the Flip 4 is better. If you care more about sound, the Flip 5 is better.
Yeah. This is JBL's third connection technology. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but from a consumer standpoint it's frustrating. Flip 4 is still a great speaker, though, at a much better price.
The only downside is .. that the battery needs to be replaced within 4-6 months.... And its battery is also not so cheap. Its nearly equal to the amount of the speaker itself. I mean, just the second time you're gonna replace the battery, you would buy a new Jbl Flip 5 instead.... Anyone else faced this issue of battery replacement. With in 4-6 months...??
For the poeple that are fanboying the flip 5, the flip 5 freaking sucks!! Jbl did make a fault, A BIG FAULT!! They go from 2 to 1 speakers, and removed the audio jacket and added partyboost wich thry didnt need to upgrade it, what they could do is atleast TRY to get a good stereo sound out of 2 speakers INSTEAD OF GOING TO MONO!! And if they did that they will be the first ever company that have stereo sound out of a small speaker (and yes the flip 4 has stereo sound but only if u listen closeley)
Flip 4 sounds unbelievable great hooked up to each other in true stereo mode.. I have that now and it sounds so impressive.. Also as of end of July you can get the factory refebished ones that are perfect.. That's what I bought for around $60-65 each... Honestly but 2 and hook in stereo mode I promise it will be a lot better listen experience
I have to ask, should I buy two Flip 4s in white now, or wait to the flip 5s come out in white, (around September). We mainly will be using these on our deck for background music. Thank you all in advance
It depends on what you want. The Flip 4 sounds good, but the Flip 5 has much better audio quality. However, the Flip 4 has more features at present, so if things like the ability to interact with Google Assistant and Siri, or to use the device as a speakerphone are important, I'd say go with the Flip 4.
@@MaxDaltonThanks Max, and thank you for the video. I really don't need the google assistant or siri since I primarily do that from my phone. I will probably just hold off until the 5s come out in white and buy a pair then. I don't know what it is, the white speakers just have a cleaner look like the old BOSE outdoor speakers from a few decades ago. Thanks again!
Hey you should get the five because cleaner audio and deeper bass than the flip 4 and scince you said that you dpnt need google or siri the flip 5 will be ur choice
@@MaxDalton just letting you know bestbuy now has them in stock 100 bucks well worth it I picked one up last week I love it definitely better then my flip 4
Returning the flip 5 and getting the flip4. Because one the charging port changed and having to deal with different wires it’s a headache... thanks for the review
Thanks for the in depth review! I think I'll be keeping my Flip 4 as it is stereo and the Flip 5 in a mono speaker. While that may not be a deal breaker for some, I sometimes enjoy reading a book or sleeping with the Flip 4 playing on my chest, and at that range you can definitely hear the left and right speaker separation. And I also use the 3.5 Aux input a lot.
its fire, I have one. best speaker out. durability 10/10 charging 9/10 sound 10/10 (for the size the bass is AMAZING!) size 10/10 looks 9/10 price 10/10
Merci pour les sous titres en français !! J'ai beaucoup hésiter entre les deux mais mon choix se portera plutôt sur la flip 4 qui offre plus d'avantages!
Ipx7 means it can stay in water up to 1M for *30 minutes* it’s not guaranteed water proof! Also the button on the back are built in but the ones on the side are stuck on by a adhesive.
Someone else mentioned the single driver on the Flip 5 as well. I wasn't aware of that. I also didn't know the Charge 4 was single driver. I really like the audio output of both. Very clear with good bass.
@@MaxDalton better get a Anker soundcore motion+. it was for 70 € on prime day and even for 100 € it is better than the cahrge 4 and flip 5. i think eve nthe sony xb20 sounds better. the tribit max sound plus is another good option
There are a lot of people who don't like what JBL did with that on the Flip 5. I think they are trying to drive people to buy two of them and set them up as stereo.
@@MaxDalton Hmm. That is a thought. However, for small BT stereo speakers, the drivers in them are so close together you might as well call them mono. For true stereo, either get a pair of headphones or at least get two speakers. Then Flip 5's much longer range could be helpful.
Flip 4 was already too large for most pockets, why do they need to keep growing it toward the charge, which is the most impractical size they have? Not pocketable and not big enough to carry in a bag. Flip 3 was perfect since it was the same size as a beer can.
I got the flip 4 from my friend as a Christmas gift, we went to Best Buy after work during the Black Friday sales and he was looking at buying the jbl boom box and he told me to get the flip 4 and tbh it’s the best speaker I’ve ever had
i got the JBL Flip4. i didn't use it for a month because I went overseas. when i came back it's facing a lot of issues-not fully charging, sound cracks. now it's no longer powering on. since it's out of warranty, JBL is charging $100 for the repair.
I have a flip 4 and am happy with it. If I got another one it would be bigger because I feel like the flip 4 isn't always loud enough and I could connect them
Yes I just bought a JBL 5 trying to link it to my JBL 4. After looking at your video I was a little disappointed that I could not link my JBL4 to the JBL5, so I was thinking about taking back my JBL5, and try to find JBL 4.
I have a flip 4 and will buy another flip 4. Why most reviews never mentioned flip 5 is a single speaker while flip4 is comes with dual speakers which play stereo sound. By the way, if there no cover for the charging port. Wait till you use it at the beach and get those sand stuck inside
The jbl flip 5 has more sound on the left side than right it bothers me....i tried fixing it in settings doesn't work is the flip 4 have this problem..?
The Flip 5 may seem to have more sound on the left side because it uses a single sound driver that is located on, you guessed it, the left side of the speaker. Meanwhile, the Flip 4 uses dual drivers located on both sides of the speaker. So naturally, you will get better sound from the dual drivers on the Flip 4 than you will from the Flip 5’s mono driver.
Thanks for the review:-) Getting the flip 5 simply because I don't want to be cheap by getting an older version (employee gifts). I also don't think the recipients have older versions that will be affected by the party issue. Thanks!
My Flip 4 recently stopped working. When i put it to charge, it makes a slightly high pitch noise and blinks a red dot. So I decided to get the flip 5 today. Can't wait to try it soon.
Not mentioned is the apparent color difference in this video. The Flip 4 is true black. The Flip 5 is at best a blueish, greenish grey? Flip 5 has no bluetooth 5, the only reason i would upgrade my Flip 4's. Conclusion: if you buy a new one, choose Flip 5. No use in upgrading if you already have Flip 4....
flip 5 has a better battery, sounds better in my opinion and has usb c so it charges faster, flip 4 sounds good and you can feel the bass, but it doesn't fill a room like the flip 5 does
I have the Flip 5 and really upset that the speakerphone feature was removed in addition to the audio jack. Sound is great but not a trie difference from the 4 in my opinion.
I will definitely buy flip 4 because of microphone and Google assistant feature no matter how good the sound quality of flip 5 is because I am just a casual (less sensitive) Listener of music.
Max - Was wondering what your thoughts were on the 4 or 5 being that we're going to be using it on a boat while completing bathymetric surveys. We're going to have a generator running behind us and the pilot and co-pilot are going to have this placed intween us while listening to podcasts and tunes. We're a bit concerned about volume, as per "quality." Thoughts on this would be great, as well as if the Charge would be a better option being that JBL has a great sale going on today that also ends today :eek: Thanks!
Hi Allen. Very cool. I won't lie, I had to look up "bathymetric" :-) If you were to get a Flip, I'd get the Flip 5 as its louder. I don't think you'd need the Charge 4. I'd be incredibly shocked if that generator is so loud you won't be able to hear. That being said, if you want to be safe, then you should definitely be fine with the Charge 4. Also, I checked out the sale, and the price they have for the Flip 4 ($75) is going to be the go-forward price for the Flip 4 now that the Flip 5 is out, so it's not really a deal. Good luck. Let me know which one you get!
@@mikes1639To untrained ears, you may think so. The Flip 4 has flatter and cleaner highs. Slightly better sound stage but not much. Flip 5 sounds more like a tunnel, and the bass overpowers the highs to sound more punchy. To me though, it sounds muddy and is typical portal speaker flair.
Hey Max, great vid. This is really important. I was thinking about getting a flip 5 but many people are saying that it stops working/stops charging after a while. How long have you had yours? Is it still working? Please get back soon, thank you!
flip 5 really does look like flip 3 i have flip 3 for 3 yrs and i enjoy it over the years time to retire it. just bought flip 5 yesterday..its louder more crisp punchiercand usb type c .. version of flip 3's
IN India, Amazon & Flipkart have both increased prices by 35 - 40% since last month. So, people are not buying any electronic items, from these online stores. Will affect their sales soon............
I am connecting my flip4 to my pc using 3.5mm, since the BT connection have lag, which is annoying when watching videos (sound and video are not synced)
It's pointless to say the flip 5 is "tough body" and "portable". Flip 4 has the exact same features plus more. The only improvement is sound quality on the flip 5. Flip 4 already has great sound for that size speaker.
Great comparison video. I'm looking to replace a Flip 4 that went missing after a trip. The 5 sounds better but since it isn't backwards compatible I'll probably get another Flip 4 and hope I find the one I lost. Then I can connect them together. Pity the 5 isn't backwards compatible. Thanks for your video!
Glad the video helped. The Flip 4 is still a great speaker. I'd do the same thing as you. They work great with two of them in stereo. Thanks for watching!
I have 2 Flip 4 and run those in stereo mode.. Absolutely love the full stereo sound.. A lot better then any just 1 simalar size Bluetooth speaker.. I got mine JBL manufacturer referb with 1 year warranty for around $60 each... You absolutely get a better and Fuller sound with (2) flip 4's.. Also have a mic that comes in handy.. Jbl dropped the ball big time with not including the stereo mode and not having a mic
I have 3 Flip 5 and 1 Flip 4 and my Flip 4 sound better,if someboddy call me no problems,but Flip 5 no good whit phone calls!! ,8 points Flip 5,,, 10 points for Flip 4 and sound more clear and same bass than Flip 5!!
Do you like the Flip 5 or the Flip 4 more? Let me know!
Flip 5
5better bro
Max Dalton flip 5
Flip 5
Flip 4 all ways
The *Flip 4* is still the best speaker in the JBL Flip line-up without any doubt, though the Flip 5 sounds marginally better... less bright. I got mine in India for $91 in November 2019 but the price went up to $110 after that and has pretty much remained there. (In India) The reason is, while the Flip 5 sounds good, it is not better... in fact it is a major step backwards.
. The Flip 4 is stereo, the Flip 5 is mono.
. The Flip 4 has a mic, it is an excellent speaker phone. The 5 doesn't have a mic!
. The Flip 4 also has a bass boosting feature. Press the Bluetooth and the Volume down button for about 10 seconds and you enter Extra Bass Mode.
. The Flip 4 ports are covered with a watertight flap. The 5 has them exposed. How waterproof can that be?
. Flip 4 has a 3.5mm / Aux In port. The 5 doesnt! Though it is BT 4.
The Flip 4 has a bright sound and a very tight bass and open mids. (I reduce the treble a tad, with my phone's eq, just a small step and it sounds perfect. For speech and muffled recordings, it is crystal clear as is. It also has 2 active drivers and 2 passive bass radiators. The Flip 5 has one active driver, however it charges via type C, sounds good and looks as good as the 4, though slightly larger.
The 3.5 aux input is essential for watching video without lag / latency. This speaker is a perfect blend of sound and size, portability, compatibility, style and ruggedness. It has an IPX7 rating and it lives up to it. Battery life is fine, not great, for either. The price, at $90 is fair. And if you can by any chance place it in a corner, it blows the lid off much larger speakers! This is a small speaker you will fall in love with, can carry around and never tire of! 4/5*. 1/2 off for the average battery and 1/2 off for being a fraction too bright. Flip 4 rules! **** 😊
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I still like my flip 4, ended up going with it over the flip 5 cause of those additional features
Flip 4 sucks, mine broke and I got a flip 5
Lol I've had the Flip 4 for years and didnt know half of those features xD
Thanks buddy you made my decision easier! I will go for Flip 4, flip 4 i can get for 6k whereas flip 5 i have to pay 10k in india
You brought it in india in dollars?
I'm still rockin' a Flip 3
That’s not a bad speaker at all.
@@MaxDalton ikr its even better that the f5
Im still rockin a flip 1 lmao
Me too
Flip 3 was a good speaker. I had one for a little while.
Flip 4 cause u can pair other speakers that have connect plus
That's definitely a big plus.
You're nuts.
Yes i love tis connecting feature which connects with my 2 pulse3's
@@pmAdministrator The problem is the people who have invested in more expensive connect + speakers (as in dropped almost $1000 like my family) can no longer connect our old speakers to the new ones. I don't know why they did this, connect + works perfectly. I do suppose that with the new IOS 13 update you could connect your phone to a connect + and a party boost speaker so it would work that way, but they got everyone hyped up and then changed the design!
What is that ?
I lost my Flip 4 while I was high at a parade :(
Well, you got a good story out of it, I’m sure, lol.
That sucks! These speakers aren't cheap 😐
Huh..I found a flip 4 one day when I was high at this parade! Weird
@@USMC-es4yy can confirm, I was the speaker
BRO I LOST MY FLIP 4 when i was high at a park🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Want to hear a joke?
PARTYBOOST
BAM!
yea, why did they need to change connect+ and sacrifice backwards compatibility. What improvement does party boost have anyways?
Yup, forcing everyone to upgrade eventually
They keep on changing the connectivity. It sucks
Haahahahha
flip 5 sounds louder, more bass but more boxy with bad mid and high.
flip 4 sounds clearer and smoother imo.
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Mono and stereo
Maan, i just ordered a flip 5... i really regret my decision... i should have just bought the flip 4. I was really hoping the flip 5 had google assistand or siri and now it doesnt even have a microphone... its very disappointing... but the sound is slick though !!!
Edit: 3 months later, i actually change my mind... for less than a hundred dollars, the jbl flip 5 is a beast... i really dint feel like the microphone was necessary... amazing for the price and anyone should go for it... usb c is also amazing to have as u need only one charger for all yur devices
I was reading first comment section and I was like...damn.... then I read the edited part and now I deelt better, waiting for my flip 5 which arives tomorrow....
What a joke 😂
I got the Flip 5 after I traded a half cart for my friends flip 4 and I gotta say, the flip 5 is way better in sound quality, the sound is sharper, the base is more defined, overall it's much better sound quality than the flip 4
did i just read you traded half a cart for your friends flip 4 😂
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Im going to the Flip 4 - More functionality at a great price!
I agree. It's still a great deal.
i cant find it no more wtf
@@DannewK just search it on amazon
In my country and in Italy the Flip 4 is more expensive than the flip 5 😂 the flip 4 is everywhere in between €103-129 meanwhile the flip5 is €99.99 😂
Yeah, the Mic is a big deal for me... it convenient for calls...
I used F4 for more than a year and am more than happy with this speaker. Every day at least 4 hours. Only recently, the battery finally said that it’s enough, and died safely. I easily replaced it with a new one from Aliexpress. The best is the enemy of the good, so I stay with Flip 4.
Glad the video helped. Thanks for watching!
hows the audio and bass? You think its worth it? I know im a bit late, sry.
Is the aliexpress one good?
Hei did the battery replacement hamper the water resistivity
Thanks for the video. I just want to add that the Flip 4 has 2 drivers while the Flip 5 has only has one and therefore is not capable to deliver stereo sound if you only have one speaker. For playing classical music and acoustic jazz, I believe Flip 4 might perform better.
Thank you again for the clear video.
Thanks alot for this, I had no clue! was about to buy the flip 5
its a 20w driver tho. The flip 4 has 2 x 8w drivers
Ordered a 5 today. Charging port is same as my phone so I'm glad I picked the right one.
Very cool. Glad this video helped. Thanks for watching!
mattchu 5.56 Just received my new JBL flip 5, wanted to let you know it does come with a cable, so even if you don’t have it, they’ve got you covered:)))
am still looking forward to buying the flip 4
It's a great speaker. You should be able to get a really good deal on it.
Why?
Why are they removing Aux?
This is insanity!
Went for the 5. Really love the pink colour they have. Actually, it is a real improvement the Bluetooth doesn’t connect with my phone when someone calls me. I used to have JBL Charge 3, and what was super annoying was that every time I received a call, it would be on speaker immediately. And now, with Flip 5, it’s not the speaker that rings, the music stops and your actual phone rings. Personally, I love this feature. Moreover, it’s perfect for me because I don’t really use Siri. So would recommend 5 :) One last thing - guys don’t worry about the cable if you are wondering whether to get a Flip 5. It comes with it’s own cable, you don’t have to own one yourself in order to be able to charge it! Cheers
I've had both in front of me, and sat through several songs between the two, and the difference in sound quality was really noticeable to my ears. The flip 4 is better, imo.
The flip 4 gives you the complete sound, is clear, and for me has enough bass. It can get a bit nebulous in the high's at the highest volume, but it's not so bad that it ruins the listening experience. If you want quality and clarity of sound, and enjoy songs with a rich and varied soundscape, the Flip 4 is damn near perfect.
The flip 5 just squashes everything into one speaker, so you won't get all the intended sounds out of it, just the reinforced bass and sturdier beats. If you don't care about how the music was intended, but just want higher volumes with stronger bass and beats, then Flip 5 is for you... But I'd say you're completely nuts to choose it over the Flip 4. And besides, there's more punchier bass based speakers out there, if that's your thing.
Thanks for sharing!
I just have both. I think when the JBL Flip 6 comes out, it needs to have the flip 4 sound quality and jbl flip 5 bass quality. 😎
I honestly think if you're watching movies on Netflix, the Flip 5 is much better. The fullness of movies is amazing from it. If you're listening for music, the flip 4 is best. I agree with you about the full sound. So I have both. I use the 4 for music and 5 for movies.
Thanks
How about the piano sounds? Can you please tell me which is better after listening to some piano songs?
Just got my flip 5 and it is amazing....the lack of JBL connect is the only bummer though....everything else is perfect 🙌🔥
Awesome. Glad to hear!
Is it still working? Are there any charging or turning on issues?
Flip 4 all day. I absolutely HATE what JBL did with the Flip 5 and Charge 4! Mono garbage only works with rap and hip-hop music. But for literally anything else with good use of instruments and good vocals you need a duel driver setup in stereo. No you can't hear the separation, but yes you can hear a more open sound stage. Mono just combines both channels into one making for a very compressed sound. It ruins allot of songs.
When I had my Charge 4 I couldn't stand the way it sounded so much so that I actually sold it off and purchased another Charge 3 while I still could haha. Should've kept my old Charge 3 and never bothered to buy the Charge 4.
I love JBL's products. But I'll go with another brand before I buy another BT speaker. I'll go with JBL again if they go back to a stereo setup. The oval driver is a good idea but it should have been two higher wattage, higher excursion, smaller oval drivers playing in stereo. This way you get a larger surface area then with two round speakers. It would've been a true improvement VS a step back. Also taking out the speakerphone function was the dumbest thing they could've done. At least drop the price if your going to take away features!
Thanks a lot for the opinion. You just saved me 200 PLN
Thanks for this. I've watched a few reviews so far and it seems I should get the Flip 4 over the 5. I want the portability as compared to the larger Charge 3 and 4. BTW, is any other company doing a similar speaker, but with Bluetooth 5.0 and stereo?
Get a tribit xsound plus! Sounds great!
I just got a Flip 4 for black friday. I immediately returned it and ordered a Flip 5 instead because it's bluetooth range was much worse than my old Flip 3, and the audio wasn't really better.
I'm excited for the flip 5 because of the improved audio, and the USB C (Same as my Note 9). My Flip 3 died because the charge port got ruined from my sticking my micro usb in there backwards so many times.
Cons: I'm going to miss the speaker feature because I won't be able to answer calls in the shower anymore
Edit: I got the Flip 5 and it's bass is kick-ass. Total audio quality improvement over the Flip 3 and 4.
yep. Flip 4's BT range is not great. Plus I could not use connect+ freely inside a house or in a backyard probably due to walls, plants, whatever (again range) . Looking forward to Flip 5's partyboost. not sure if this is good enough though.
I already have one flip 4. Thanks for letting me know if I get a flip 5 they cant be used in stereo mode. Another flip 4 it is.
What is the point of having stereo speaker when it is just 5 cm apart.
The problem I had with the flip 5 is that it only played one channel (right or left). Mono is suppose to play both channel signals through one speaker correct?
fine, ill cop the 5. Just lost my 4 on the count of being too faded! haha, thanks for the video
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JBL flip 6 trailer is released .watch my channel 🔥😎
What better
Flip 4 -👍
Flip 5 -📝
Like I say in the video, it depends on what you care about -- sound or features. If you care more about features, the Flip 4 is better. If you care more about sound, the Flip 5 is better.
Flip 5 I just bought the flip 5 and am very happy with the sound
I'm gonna roll with the Flip 4. My kid has one so I like the connectability. Too bad the Flip 5 switched to another connection format.
Yeah. This is JBL's third connection technology. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but from a consumer standpoint it's frustrating. Flip 4 is still a great speaker, though, at a much better price.
just got the flip 4 and its amazing
The only downside is .. that the battery needs to be replaced within 4-6 months.... And its battery is also not so cheap. Its nearly equal to the amount of the speaker itself. I mean, just the second time you're gonna replace the battery, you would buy a new Jbl Flip 5 instead.... Anyone else faced this issue of battery replacement. With in 4-6 months...??
For the poeple that are fanboying the flip 5, the flip 5 freaking sucks!! Jbl did make a fault, A BIG FAULT!! They go from 2 to 1 speakers, and removed the audio jacket and added partyboost wich thry didnt need to upgrade it, what they could do is atleast TRY to get a good stereo sound out of 2 speakers INSTEAD OF GOING TO MONO!! And if they did that they will be the first ever company that have stereo sound out of a small speaker (and yes the flip 4 has stereo sound but only if u listen closeley)
Great post. I agree with most of this, but I don't care about mono vs stereo in that small of a speaker.
I have the Flip 5 in Squad edition, it's a very very good speaker :D I love it
I agree. It fell short on functionality for me when compared with the Flip 4, but it's still a great speaker.
is it bigger then the 4 ?
@@marisamendoza2203 Yes, little
Flip 4 awesome old is gold!
I got a flip 5 for my bike yesterday paid 89$ well worth it the sound is awesome
Mono stereo doesn't matter ... Sound quality is the priority .. listening from xb21
That's how I feel. It's such a small speaker, the fact that there are two really doesn't matter.
@@MaxDalton it does lol
Flip 4 sounds unbelievable great hooked up to each other in true stereo mode..
I have that now and it sounds so impressive..
Also as of end of July you can get the factory refebished ones that are perfect..
That's what I bought for around $60-65 each...
Honestly but 2 and hook in stereo mode
I promise it will be a lot better listen experience
stereo does matter, just not in a sound system that small
Need this for hotels
I have to ask, should I buy two Flip 4s in white now, or wait to the flip 5s come out in white, (around September). We mainly will be using these on our deck for background music.
Thank you all in advance
It depends on what you want. The Flip 4 sounds good, but the Flip 5 has much better audio quality. However, the Flip 4 has more features at present, so if things like the ability to interact with Google Assistant and Siri, or to use the device as a speakerphone are important, I'd say go with the Flip 4.
@@MaxDaltonThanks Max, and thank you for the video. I really don't need the google assistant or siri since I primarily do that from my phone. I will probably just hold off until the 5s come out in white and buy a pair then. I don't know what it is, the white speakers just have a cleaner look like the old BOSE outdoor speakers from a few decades ago.
Thanks again!
Hey you should get the five because cleaner audio and deeper bass than the flip 4 and scince you said that you dpnt need google or siri the flip 5 will be ur choice
@@MaxDalton just letting you know bestbuy now has them in stock 100 bucks well worth it I picked one up last week I love it definitely better then my flip 4
Great comparison review thanks!
Very cool. Glad the video helped you out. Thanks for watching!
Returning the flip 5 and getting the flip4. Because one the charging port changed and having to deal with different wires it’s a headache... thanks for the review
Looks like someones lazy. Usb c is much faster and also charges faster. Also fl5 is still fully waterproof with the charging port exposed.
Thanks for the in depth review! I think I'll be keeping my Flip 4 as it is stereo and the Flip 5 in a mono speaker. While that may not be a deal breaker for some, I sometimes enjoy reading a book or sleeping with the Flip 4 playing on my chest, and at that range you can definitely hear the left and right speaker separation.
And I also use the 3.5 Aux input a lot.
Listening to this on my jbl flip 4
One thing you missed, the play button on the Flip 5 can also skip to the next song when double-pressed.
Both can
I ordered a personalized Flip 5, can't wait to check it out. Thanks for your video, very informative.
This JBL Flip 5 speaker has a rich, full sound and the personalized graphics came out beautiful. The paint smell is a little strong but it fades.
just ordered the flip 4, ill update on sound and overall quality.
its fire, I have one. best speaker out.
durability 10/10
charging 9/10
sound 10/10 (for the size the bass is AMAZING!)
size 10/10
looks 9/10
price 10/10
I think that flip 4 still one of the best speakers, this helps a lot when using charge 4, because charge 4 in solo sounds so bad...
3:34 listening of this comparsion on my potato speakers...
Merci pour les sous titres en français !! J'ai beaucoup hésiter entre les deux mais mon choix se portera plutôt sur la flip 4 qui offre plus d'avantages!
I was skeptical of the flip 5 but I love mine, it looks great as well especially in the blue color
I agree. I like it, and I also dig the blue color.
Ipx7 means it can stay in water up to 1M for *30 minutes* it’s not guaranteed water proof! Also the button on the back are built in but the ones on the side are stuck on by a adhesive.
Flip 5 mono speaker (like charge 4) but clear audio and more deep bass👍
Someone else mentioned the single driver on the Flip 5 as well. I wasn't aware of that. I also didn't know the Charge 4 was single driver. I really like the audio output of both. Very clear with good bass.
@@MaxDalton better get a Anker soundcore motion+. it was for 70 € on prime day and even for 100 € it is better than the cahrge 4 and flip 5. i think eve nthe sony xb20 sounds better. the tribit max sound plus is another good option
Also, the USB-C charger is way better than damn micro usb
Listening to this video off my flip 4
Rip to my Flip 4 who recently passed after years and years of adventures 😔💔
Thanks for the video! You helped me to bigtime to dedice. Will be getting the jbl flip 5 by next week! 🙌🏼
I still use a Jbl Flip 2 because of the Loudness. But when the Flip 6 comes out i am gonnna grab the 6.
@The Edwin Manna Filez whattt? no they arent i have a flip 2 and i compared it to the flip 4 flip 4 sounds astronomically better
3:35 3:50 comparison buttons!
Thank you. I did include a timestamp to the sound test in the video description, but I don't think anyone looks at those, lol.
Max Dalton yeah but they are not clickable
I have a flip 4. If I got another, I’d get another flip 4.
if both Flip 4 and Flip 5 are costs exactly the same. which one would you prefer?
Flip4
Flip 4 is stereo sound, 5 is only mono. Big nope from me.
Yeah but theres speaker was specifically built for party not for the highest quality sound ever made
There are a lot of people who don't like what JBL did with that on the Flip 5. I think they are trying to drive people to buy two of them and set them up as stereo.
@@MaxDalton Just checked out the flip5 that was on display at walmart. Sounds no better than the flip4, so I'll stick with my flip 4.
@@ThatOneTruckGuy I didn't realize that about the Flip 5 being mono. definitely a nope for me too then lol
@@MaxDalton Hmm. That is a thought. However, for small BT stereo speakers, the drivers in them are so close together you might as well call them mono. For true stereo, either get a pair of headphones or at least get two speakers. Then Flip 5's much longer range could be helpful.
Flip 4 was already too large for most pockets, why do they need to keep growing it toward the charge, which is the most impractical size they have?
Not pocketable and not big enough to carry in a bag. Flip 3 was perfect since it was the same size as a beer can.
I got the flip 4 from my friend as a Christmas gift, we went to Best Buy after work during the Black Friday sales and he was looking at buying the jbl boom box and he told me to get the flip 4 and tbh it’s the best speaker I’ve ever had
i got the JBL Flip4. i didn't use it for a month because I went overseas. when i came back it's facing a lot of issues-not fully charging, sound cracks. now it's no longer powering on. since it's out of warranty, JBL is charging $100 for the repair.
I have a flip 4 and am happy with it. If I got another one it would be bigger because I feel like the flip 4 isn't always loud enough and I could connect them
I understand. I've got my Charge 4 at my desk. I have my Flip 5 in a bag I carry around. I have my Xtreme 2 in the garage.
Yes I just bought a JBL 5 trying to link it to my JBL 4. After looking at your video I was a little disappointed that I could not link my JBL4 to the JBL5, so I was thinking about taking back my JBL5, and try to find JBL 4.
Yeah. JBL is on their third version of connection tech. I get that it needs to be updated over time, but doing it for every release feels unnecessary.
omg the flip 5 looks awesome pawsome
It's a sweet little speaker.
I have a flip 4 and will buy another flip 4. Why most reviews never mentioned flip 5 is a single speaker while flip4 is comes with dual speakers which play stereo sound. By the way, if there no cover for the charging port. Wait till you use it at the beach and get those sand stuck inside
3:12 How can I notice the difference if I'm playing this video on my celphone and not in a JBL speaker?
The jbl flip 5 has more sound on the left side than right it bothers me....i tried fixing it in settings doesn't work is the flip 4 have this problem..?
The Flip 5 may seem to have more sound on the left side because it uses a single sound driver that is located on, you guessed it, the left side of the speaker. Meanwhile, the Flip 4 uses dual drivers located on both sides of the speaker. So naturally, you will get better sound from the dual drivers on the Flip 4 than you will from the Flip 5’s mono driver.
I just can't decide on which one to get 😏
Thanks for the review:-) Getting the flip 5 simply because I don't want to be cheap by getting an older version (employee gifts). I also don't think the recipients have older versions that will be affected by the party issue. Thanks!
My Flip 4 recently stopped working. When i put it to charge, it makes a slightly high pitch noise and blinks a red dot. So I decided to get the flip 5 today. Can't wait to try it soon.
Sorry to hear about the Flip 4. The Flip 5 is a good speaker, even though it's missing some of the features on the Flip 4.
We used my SUP as a swimming bar at the lake yesterday. Long story short; no I don’t have a Flip 4 anymore and watching this video.
He said 3" deep.😂😂😂
Well played, lol.
Not mentioned is the apparent color difference in this video. The Flip 4 is true black. The Flip 5 is at best a blueish, greenish grey? Flip 5 has no bluetooth 5, the only reason i would upgrade my Flip 4's. Conclusion: if you buy a new one, choose Flip 5. No use in upgrading if you already have Flip 4....
Thanks. After watching this video, I decided to upgrade from the Flip 4 to the Flip 6
flip 5 has a better battery, sounds better in my opinion and has usb c so it charges faster, flip 4 sounds good and you can feel the bass, but it doesn't fill a room like the flip 5 does
All fair points.
Flip 3 owners like
Got the 5 and ❤️ It! 😃
Very cool. I dig mine as well. Glad the video helped. Thanks for watching!
I have it for my home entertainment system
This is THE most helpful video!!! Thank you!
I have the Flip 5 and really upset that the speakerphone feature was removed in addition to the audio jack. Sound is great but not a trie difference from the 4 in my opinion.
I will definitely buy flip 4 because of microphone and Google assistant feature no matter how good the sound quality of flip 5 is because I am just a casual (less sensitive) Listener of music.
Very cool. Glad the video helped you out. The Flip 4 is still a great speaker.
Bass quality of flip 3 is better
Max - Was wondering what your thoughts were on the 4 or 5 being that we're going to be using it on a boat while completing bathymetric surveys. We're going to have a generator running behind us and the pilot and co-pilot are going to have this placed intween us while listening to podcasts and tunes. We're a bit concerned about volume, as per "quality."
Thoughts on this would be great, as well as if the Charge would be a better option being that JBL has a great sale going on today that also ends today :eek: Thanks!
Hi Allen. Very cool. I won't lie, I had to look up "bathymetric" :-) If you were to get a Flip, I'd get the Flip 5 as its louder. I don't think you'd need the Charge 4. I'd be incredibly shocked if that generator is so loud you won't be able to hear. That being said, if you want to be safe, then you should definitely be fine with the Charge 4. Also, I checked out the sale, and the price they have for the Flip 4 ($75) is going to be the go-forward price for the Flip 4 now that the Flip 5 is out, so it's not really a deal. Good luck. Let me know which one you get!
I had my flip 4 stolen and got the 5 and I prefer it over the 4. The bass is great and seems to pump out a louder sound than the 4 could!
Sound quality on the flip 4 sounds way clearer. I disagree with you.
There's no way to tell the difference between both because it's coming through your phone speaker....lmao....
@@mikes1639To untrained ears, you may think so. The Flip 4 has flatter and cleaner highs. Slightly better sound stage but not much. Flip 5 sounds more like a tunnel, and the bass overpowers the highs to sound more punchy. To me though, it sounds muddy and is typical portal speaker flair.
Hey Max, great vid. This is really important. I was thinking about getting a flip 5 but many people are saying that it stops working/stops charging after a while. How long have you had yours? Is it still working? Please get back soon, thank you!
Idk man, all those "flip 4 lovers" seem like bots or some paid people
I bought a flip 4 in turquoise. love it with my charge 3 and connect+
Very cool. I like the different color options they've got.
Can I connect the flip 5 to charge 3?
@@pabloseveri5057 dont think so
Can you connect two Flip 5's together for stereo sound?
Yes, using the PartyBoost feature.
flip 5 really does look like flip 3 i have flip 3 for 3 yrs and i enjoy it over the years time to retire it. just bought flip 5 yesterday..its louder more crisp punchiercand usb type c .. version of flip 3's
Yep. I still don't know if I'm a big fan of the design.
IN India, Amazon & Flipkart have both increased prices by 35 - 40% since last month. So, people are not buying any electronic items, from these online stores. Will affect their sales soon............
I feel like nothing will ever be as good as the flip 4. All bluetooth speakers nowadays are mono!! And no 3.5mm jack!!
Doesn't the Flip 5 have only mono output? Why are people choosing that speaker then?
One other thing to consider is that the Flip 5 surprisingly only has one speaker where the Flip 4 has two.
Hows the Bass?
Which is better. This or UE Boom 3.??
I'm more of a fan of the Flip devices, but each person can hear things differently. I'd recommend go and listening to them, if you can.
What you came here for
Flip 4 audio test: 3:38
Flip 5 audio test: 3:50
I am connecting my flip4 to my pc using 3.5mm, since the BT connection have lag, which is annoying when watching videos (sound and video are not synced)
It's pointless to say the flip 5 is "tough body" and "portable". Flip 4 has the exact same features plus more. The only improvement is sound quality on the flip 5. Flip 4 already has great sound for that size speaker.
I agree.
Ok now I know which speaker to buy, flip 5 it's best for me.
Great comparison video. I'm looking to replace a Flip 4 that went missing after a trip. The 5 sounds better but since it isn't backwards compatible I'll probably get another Flip 4 and hope I find the one I lost. Then I can connect them together. Pity the 5 isn't backwards compatible. Thanks for your video!
Glad the video helped. The Flip 4 is still a great speaker. I'd do the same thing as you. They work great with two of them in stereo. Thanks for watching!
Flip 5 sounds better . But I don't own either.
Anybody watching this with a space grey iPhone 7 with a camp jbl flip 4, charge 3, and a black boom box connected? Most likely not
Ure very rich sar congrats 👏👏👏
Dang this review doesn't put the flip 5 in the best light. I have two flip 4's. I enjoy the speaker phone ability.
It's got some shorfalls. Great audio, but removing some of those features is going to be a dealbreaker for a lot of folks.
I have 2 Flip 4 and run those in stereo mode..
Absolutely love the full stereo sound..
A lot better then any just 1 simalar size Bluetooth speaker..
I got mine JBL manufacturer referb with 1 year warranty for around $60 each...
You absolutely get a better and Fuller sound with (2) flip 4's..
Also have a mic that comes in handy..
Jbl dropped the ball big time with not including the stereo mode and not having a mic
I have 3 Flip 5 and 1 Flip 4 and my Flip 4 sound better,if someboddy call me no problems,but Flip 5 no good whit phone calls!! ,8 points Flip 5,,, 10 points for Flip 4 and sound more clear and same bass than Flip 5!!
Thanks for sharing.
Very nice review, thank you I just ordered one !
what about the all important sound difference bro,or do they sound the same? was waiting for that otherwise the review was ok
I would like to know witch of these two is better when outdoors?
I just prefer flip 4 for the stereo sound and connect+
Yep. Understandably, so do a lot of other people.