Zwarte piet is actually not considered a 'Christmas' figurine. It may seem so, since 'pakjesavond' (unpack/boxing day?) is in the same month (5th of december). However, we consider this a very different feast and it has no relation to Christmas at all. When googling, I am suprised even National Geographic got this fact wrong.
Indeed it's a separate thing, actually it boils down to a racist blackface slave caricature created to be a clown and at the same time scares the kids with the notion that they might get kidnapped. That is exactly where it stems from. As Dutch historians have proven over and over. Unfortunately some of my fellow White Dutch citizens and unfortunately also some indoctrinated non-white Dutch remain willingly dedicated to ignorance about the issue. If you have a Dutch friend who defends the Black Pete tradition, get yourself a new Dutch friend. I promise you, you can easily do better.
Number 1 rule should be: "Don't ever tell a dutch to buy a car instead of use a bike." 😅😅😅😅 Just kidding... their values & rules are what made them a incredible country.
I have never heard that The Dutch are confused with the Danes. What I did hear is that Dutch can be confused with Deutsch, meaning German. As a Dutchman having lived in Ireland and now in Spain, I always smile when I see the directness of the Dutch. Especially the English and Scandinavians that I come across are more indirect.
Punctuality: Yeah... be on time. And this extends to both time sides. Don't be late... but don't be early either. 4 am is 4 am, not 3:50 am, not 4:05 am.However, we are also far more lenient with people if they have a valid excuse not to be on time. In "certain countries" (cough cough America cough cough) you can be fired because you weren't on time since your car got hit by another car and you are now in the hospital. That won't happen here. Small talks: Do I know you and am I on friendly footing with you.. small talk all you want. Are you a random that is selling me a pair of pants in a shop... keep the small talk to your friends. Yes, the weather sucks.. no I haven't seen the latest episode of NCIS... just give me my frigging pants. Flaunting: Famous Dutch saying " Doe normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg" which translates to "Act normal, then you're acting crazy enough" Confusing us with Danes: No problem, just know that in that case we obviously are the Great Danes. But I have to say I never encountered this. I have seen "certain nationalities" (cough cough Americans cough cough) confuse Austrians with Australians and v.v. though Lying: I assume this is about Dutch Directness, And It is much more than "don't lie". It is about saying what you mean, not what you think we want to hear or trying not to offend us. Don't ask me about me day if you are not ready to hear about my day. Football: Just like in England or Spain... there is a certain group of "fans" that is toxic.. most Dutch can however deal with some friendly banter. Now... if you start talking smack about Max Verstappen however... different story (but that might just be me) Waisting time: See punctuality, small talk, and lying. Visiting unanounced: Are you a friend or family... my door is "open". Are you not in that groupp... call first. As for "the Dutch plan visits weeks in advance... bullcrap.. at least among friends and family. There are places where they don't mind peeple cutting lines? Tell me where so I can avoid those places please. Comparing us to other countries: Go ahead, we come out on top any day of the week. Being overly friendly: see Lying and wasting time Zwarte Piet: Tip.. Piet is pronounced the same as Pete. And talking about this... don't do it, we are struggling with the subject enough already. We do not need the rightous comments of people from countries that are way more racist than Black Pete will ever be. That said, personally I am in favor of some change ragrding the figure. Sadly there are two fringe groups of people on both sides that keep blocking every solution. One group refuses to ditch the concept of just Black, the other group ditches the concept of all colors imaginable taking skin color out of the equation. The solution is simple but extremists on both side make it impossible. A 13th way to annoy many Dutch is insisting it is called Holland even if you know better.
It's annoying to only mention Amsterdam. The Netherlands is much more than Amsterdam. There are so much more beautiful cities, towns and villages to see than Amsterdam
other things that annoy ... people making videos about the Dutch without understanding .... most was not uniek dutch. And we are not that strict with time. if you have good reasons its no big deal.
And don,t forget there is a big difference between the north and south in the south the people are more quiet the north allways looks down on the south i,m a very proud Southern
Don’t talk about how much you earn . Don’t brag . Be on time by the minute , that goes for being early too . Don’t ever admit to buying something and paying full price . It’s okay to brag about a bargain
In that last one it was truly shocking. While some may feel uncomfortable discussing it, it’s important to speak out. Dressing up as another race, particularly black people, is not acceptable. In Britain, during the 1950s and earlier, people dressed up as “gollywogs,” which was also deeply offensive. It’s wrong to stay silent out of fear of offending others when such actions are harmful. Dressing up in a way that mocks or caricatures someone’s race is disrespectful and perpetuates harmful stereotypes. It’s crucial that we acknowledge this and work toward greater understanding and respect
It is not to mock another race. Zwarte Piet used to be a devil like Krampus. It became a Moor, because people thought a devil was too scary for children. When I was a kid zwarte Piet was still a bit scary. He could take you away to Spain, or beat you with some twigs. Zwarte Piet is vanishing, nowadays it’s just Piet. Just like Krampus isn’t black anymore in Germany and Austria.
"if there is one surefire way to annoy a Dutch person, it is by not being punctual. It is surely one of the surefire ways to annoy the Dutch." ??? Was this written by an AI lmao
You make shocking generalisations about the entire country when actually you are probably referring to the people of Noord- and Zuid-Holland. You obviously know nothing about Limburg or Brabant. We are quite different to all those severe Hollanders you describe. And who on earth would confuse the Dutch with the Danes, for heaven's sake? (OK, no prizes for guessing: the same people 'over the water' who think that Belgium is the capital of Madrid 🙄)
The biggest thing the Dutch get anoyed by is shoddy and poor work! Maybe do some research before spouting things you found on the first article you found on google. Seriously you even had the same point twice because you ran out of things to say and then doubled down on it and did it again! Side note : The reason why we get upset about black pete is because non-europeans get their facts wrong all the damn time! Black pete has been around for milenia and only became the thing we know now after the catholic church intermingled with pagan traditions in the early 1400s The only thing that changed in the 1800s was its dress up to be more representative of a Moor which is again tied to the catholic church. Its a soot faced person btw not a stereotypical minstrel show caricature of a black man like they still do in the media in the U.S. If the sootface offends you maybe hit up the pope about Moors kissing his feet or something i dunno.
Zwarte piet is actually not considered a 'Christmas' figurine. It may seem so, since 'pakjesavond' (unpack/boxing day?) is in the same month (5th of december). However, we consider this a very different feast and it has no relation to Christmas at all. When googling, I am suprised even National Geographic got this fact wrong.
thanks so much for clearing this up, i cant believe even notional geographic got this worng
Great example of how to annoy the people in Holland
Indeed it's a separate thing, actually it boils down to a racist blackface slave caricature created to be a clown and at the same time scares the kids with the notion that they might get kidnapped. That is exactly where it stems from. As Dutch historians have proven over and over. Unfortunately some of my fellow White Dutch citizens and unfortunately also some indoctrinated non-white Dutch remain willingly dedicated to ignorance about the issue. If you have a Dutch friend who defends the Black Pete tradition, get yourself a new Dutch friend. I promise you, you can easily do better.
@@YoDidz and the rest of the people in the Netherlands also.😁
Dont walk on the bike lane
As a tourist I got called a "sufferd" for walking across a bike lane.
Number 1 rule should be:
"Don't ever tell a dutch to buy a car instead of use a bike."
😅😅😅😅
Just kidding... their values & rules are what made them a incredible country.
I have never heard that The Dutch are confused with the Danes. What I did hear is that Dutch can be confused with Deutsch, meaning German.
As a Dutchman having lived in Ireland and now in Spain, I always smile when I see the directness of the Dutch. Especially the English and Scandinavians that I come across are more indirect.
Punctuality: Yeah... be on time. And this extends to both time sides. Don't be late... but don't be early either. 4 am is 4 am, not 3:50 am, not 4:05 am.However, we are also far more lenient with people if they have a valid excuse not to be on time. In "certain countries" (cough cough America cough cough) you can be fired because you weren't on time since your car got hit by another car and you are now in the hospital. That won't happen here.
Small talks: Do I know you and am I on friendly footing with you.. small talk all you want. Are you a random that is selling me a pair of pants in a shop... keep the small talk to your friends. Yes, the weather sucks.. no I haven't seen the latest episode of NCIS... just give me my frigging pants.
Flaunting: Famous Dutch saying " Doe normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg" which translates to "Act normal, then you're acting crazy enough"
Confusing us with Danes: No problem, just know that in that case we obviously are the Great Danes. But I have to say I never encountered this. I have seen "certain nationalities" (cough cough Americans cough cough) confuse Austrians with Australians and v.v. though
Lying: I assume this is about Dutch Directness, And It is much more than "don't lie". It is about saying what you mean, not what you think we want to hear or trying not to offend us. Don't ask me about me day if you are not ready to hear about my day.
Football: Just like in England or Spain... there is a certain group of "fans" that is toxic.. most Dutch can however deal with some friendly banter. Now... if you start talking smack about Max Verstappen however... different story (but that might just be me)
Waisting time: See punctuality, small talk, and lying.
Visiting unanounced: Are you a friend or family... my door is "open". Are you not in that groupp... call first. As for "the Dutch plan visits weeks in advance... bullcrap.. at least among friends and family.
There are places where they don't mind peeple cutting lines? Tell me where so I can avoid those places please.
Comparing us to other countries: Go ahead, we come out on top any day of the week.
Being overly friendly: see Lying and wasting time
Zwarte Piet: Tip.. Piet is pronounced the same as Pete. And talking about this... don't do it, we are struggling with the subject enough already. We do not need the rightous comments of people from countries that are way more racist than Black Pete will ever be. That said, personally I am in favor of some change ragrding the figure. Sadly there are two fringe groups of people on both sides that keep blocking every solution. One group refuses to ditch the concept of just Black, the other group ditches the concept of all colors imaginable taking skin color out of the equation. The solution is simple but extremists on both side make it impossible.
A 13th way to annoy many Dutch is insisting it is called Holland even if you know better.
If you dont like Hagelslag then we will not be annoyed.
We will be furious.
op de Antillen vieren ze Sinterklaas gewoon nog met Zwarte Piet....ze hebben daar totaal geen probleem mee
It’s not really true we Dutch don’t like every small talk. We love to complain about the weather.
It's annoying to only mention Amsterdam. The Netherlands is much more than Amsterdam. There are so much more beautiful cities, towns and villages to see than Amsterdam
You are so right
other things that annoy ... people making videos about the Dutch without understanding .... most was not uniek dutch. And we are not that strict with time. if you have good reasons its no big deal.
I noticed when dutches respond an email from someone they didn't knew, they are kind and call by the first name. Very friendly...
If they want a yes/no answer don’t think about start talking about the weather. Just say yes or no.
Zwarte Piet has absolutely nothing to do with Christmas, so don't call them a Christmas figurine like you did in the video.
And don,t forget there is a big difference between the north and south in the south the people are more quiet the north allways looks down on the south i,m a very proud Southern
Bullshit !!!
Ik ben ook trotse Limburger. Don't like the northern zoerproeme at all.
#13 - Referring to The Netherlands as 'Deutschland'. Hrmmmm.....
Annoyance #13: be generalist about ALL dutch people...
It’s amazing that the British are so obsessed with Dutch culture 😂
Next time you make a video, ask somebody from that country how to say names proper.
I will try this to annoys my nederlander cousin!! lol
I can't believe you confused Deutschland with Nederland. Deutschland is Germany. Check your facts when making videos.
Don’t talk about how much you earn . Don’t brag . Be on time by the minute , that goes for being early too . Don’t ever admit to buying something and paying full price . It’s okay to brag about a bargain
In that last one it was truly shocking. While some may feel uncomfortable discussing it, it’s important to speak out. Dressing up as another race, particularly black people, is not acceptable. In Britain, during the 1950s and earlier, people dressed up as “gollywogs,” which was also deeply offensive. It’s wrong to stay silent out of fear of offending others when such actions are harmful. Dressing up in a way that mocks or caricatures someone’s race is disrespectful and perpetuates harmful stereotypes. It’s crucial that we acknowledge this and work toward greater understanding and respect
It is not to mock another race. Zwarte Piet used to be a devil like Krampus. It became a Moor, because people thought a devil was too scary for children. When I was a kid zwarte Piet was still a bit scary. He could take you away to Spain, or beat you with some twigs. Zwarte Piet is vanishing, nowadays it’s just Piet. Just like Krampus isn’t black anymore in Germany and Austria.
I'm dutch
And I'm here to say that most of this here in the video is absolute nonsense.
Because you're not from Amsterdam.
@@eriknoorman1957 No ? but I am !!!
Niet bepaald "absoluut"..............
Unhappy supporters is an understatement.
'dutch people don't like wasting time by talking about the weather'
that's right, we only like wast time by complaining about the weather
とてもいろんなものがあるですね👍👍👍👍👍🎉🎉🎉❤
#13: Make jokes about Theo van Gogh.
Like Trump is doing now 😜
zwoarte pjet?
I like to remind them that they have the best football team to have never won a World Cup.
Oh, shut up 🤨
"if there is one surefire way to annoy a Dutch person, it is by not being punctual. It is surely one of the surefire ways to annoy the Dutch." ??? Was this written by an AI lmao
gee, and I left Holland in 1953 and they all still apply😆
ha.. you still did not lost your directness.. lovely, you could come back anytime
Holland? The name of our country is the Netherlands. You should know better.
@@mfjdv2020 thats so dumb.. who cares..
1953? Vanwege de watersnood?
You make shocking generalisations about the entire country when actually you are probably referring to the people of Noord- and Zuid-Holland. You obviously know nothing about Limburg or Brabant. We are quite different to all those severe Hollanders you describe.
And who on earth would confuse the Dutch with the Danes, for heaven's sake? (OK, no prizes for guessing: the same people 'over the water' who think that Belgium is the capital of Madrid 🙄)
Also my question, who would confuse between both of them?
Poorly informed video
dutch van der line
The best way to annoy the Dutch is to ; Stay away !!! Goodbye !!!
What I huge bunch of BS, kindly travel to Netherlands and review your presentation a lot more and make the changes😂
The biggest thing the Dutch get anoyed by is shoddy and poor work!
Maybe do some research before spouting things you found on the first article you found on google.
Seriously you even had the same point twice because you ran out of things to say and then doubled down on it and did it again!
Side note : The reason why we get upset about black pete is because non-europeans get their facts wrong all the damn time!
Black pete has been around for milenia and only became the thing we know now after the catholic church intermingled with pagan traditions in the early 1400s
The only thing that changed in the 1800s was its dress up to be more representative of a Moor which is again tied to the catholic church.
Its a soot faced person btw not a stereotypical minstrel show caricature of a black man like they still do in the media in the U.S.
If the sootface offends you maybe hit up the pope about Moors kissing his feet or something i dunno.
I wish your comment was pinned first. Why is a non Dutch guy making this video….