Vertical boiled Belgian steam locomotive - the strangest steam engine? - Lawrie Goes Loco Episode 6.

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  • Hello everyone,
    Today we make a welcome return to the Mid Suffolk Light Railway, for a look at a steam locomotive - though its probably not as you know it!
    A video featuring:
    Lawrie - Presenter and sudden fan of the Belgians.
    Geffers - Cameraman unaware of how he's ended up back at the MSLR.
    If you like what you've seen and want more information on the Mid-Suffolk Light Railway - or you're interested in joining the railway, have a look at their website.
    www.mslr.org.uk/
    Note: For the sequence when Lawrie is speaking to the camera, there are no members of the public on board the train.
    I've got an Instagram! Keep track of what I'm up to with Lawries_Mechanical_Marvels

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  • @BrooksMoses
    @BrooksMoses 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Are you sure that's actually a whistle and not just a spare blowoff valve? 😆

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It can't really count as a whistle can it 😂

    • @AjSmit1
      @AjSmit1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lmm more like a hisstle

    • @TB76Returns
      @TB76Returns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you are right! 🤣

  • @johntyjp
    @johntyjp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Did you notice, there are one or two bullet holes in it, from the war no doubt ?!😆

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We'll go with that explanation anyway 😂

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Wow, that's quite a history! Especially for a multiple unit, but I guess it still worked...

    • @kellyadams8235
      @kellyadams8235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      where is the bullet holes?

  • @Scioneer
    @Scioneer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'm beginning to think the control setup is what inspired the control console on the TARDIS.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahahaha! I totally can see it!

    • @thegamingwolfkingofthemult37
      @thegamingwolfkingofthemult37 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If The Doctor worked in the NWR lol

  • @lloydvehicleconsulting
    @lloydvehicleconsulting 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I don't know anything about locomotives, but I do know that this channel is finest quality entertainment!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now you know a bit more! Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm, I don't know of anyone who has such a diverse collection of vehicles. That is entertaining in itself!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's becoming quite a unique collection. With more to come!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm, no doubt your collection will swell in the run up to your challenge in September!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh certainly!

  • @laurenssmith9534
    @laurenssmith9534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    No ash pan in a gas woks is an explosion combination 😄

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You'd have thought wouldn't you. I could be wrong of course. But certainly they didn't have ashpans

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lmm Boggles the mind, wouldn't the coals set fire to the sleepers?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Again, you'd think so. I have no idea how it worked 😂

  • @renardgrise
    @renardgrise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As tiny as that locomotive is, the stack-talk is awesome.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It sounds amazing!

  • @TheHatMusic
    @TheHatMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Preserving the metal work..... I'll have to remember that one next time we overfill the final drive gearbox on our DMU....
    Also, utter sympathy for the crawling along the sleepers mate. It's never fun, especially when you're expected to manoeuvre an oil bottle with your arm twisted 180 degrees behind where it normally goes...
    Out of curiosity, is there much need for the blower on a vertical boiler loco? Also, if you can source a Stanier whistle for it, it would sound immense!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's always been my go to line 😂
      The fact I have to crawl along the ground is made worse by the fact there is a pit. It's almost mocking me.
      The Y7 is borderline impossible without the pit.
      Worst thing I've ever oiled up was 5619. There is no room to do anything under that.
      The blower appears to do nothing - it may just about stop blowback, but basically just makes a racket!
      Oh a Stanier hooter would me amazing - or a five chime!

    • @otm646
      @otm646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A simple pump on the bottle solves that issue. Any auto parts store has them, they screw right into the normal liter bottle.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You've still got to be able to get to and find the pots and divots.
      It does certainly help though.

  • @robinforrest7680
    @robinforrest7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    30 minutes of sheer joy while ironing a months worth of shirts 😁. Nice little loco if a bit weird. When you said the pit road was occupied but you had to go under to lube the axleboxes I half expected you to reappear with a trolley jack and a pair of axle stands!
    As for the injector pump only working when in motion I read somewhere that the solution adopted by the crews of one early railway company (possibly very early GWR in broad gauge days) was to run the engine up to the buffer stops at the end of an empty siding, liberally grease the rails, put it into full foward gear, open the regulator and just leave it running, wheels spinning on the oily rails until the boiler was full. Not sure the MSR management or the PW department would appreciate that though 😁.
    It does look right on the MSR. Just the kind of thing Colonel Stephens would have purchased for one of his light railways.
    Thanks so much for this series Lawrie. This channel is paradise for a steam and car enthusiast. Please keep on doing these as well as the car stuff. All the best mate. Rob.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad to have helped pass the time!
      It's a really super little Loco. Sounds super under power working up the bank, and you feel like you're doing a million miles an hour. It is very very strange, and has caught people out.
      Hahaha, that would have been quite entertaining! I'll suggest that to the railway 😂.
      That sounds a bonkers way to fill a boiler.
      I think the last thing we want at the mslr would be greased up wheels as we descend the bank - it's slippery enough in the wrong weather anyway!
      The railway won an Interpretation Award a few years ago for being so faithful to the original MSLR and the lovely atmosphere the place has - its more Colonel Stephen's than a Colonel Stephen's railway!
      Thank you! It's really nice of you to say so - we're just glad you guys are enjoying the content! And have no fear, there is loads of stuff lined up in both the car and train departments!

  • @AndysGamingHub
    @AndysGamingHub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lawrie that's a interesting looking engine never seen one like that lol 👍

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vertical boilered locos aren't common, and there are only 5 in the country. Out of hundreds upon hundreds built.

  • @chrishoggett1375
    @chrishoggett1375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m happy to hear you call it a locomotive, most people in Britain call these tram engines as you said. In Maldegem we have a cockerill type 5 that will soon be restored. I’ll ask my dad if he has more information. Many of these engines left Belgium in the 80s, back then he was also involved with the restoration of a type 4 over here, so he might know something about this one

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're super little things - they make a stunning noise too.
      I'd be glad to find out more of the information on this one!

    • @geertbalenberg1595
      @geertbalenberg1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lmm i found this on a dutch website .industriespoor.nl it is in dutch and the website itself is not very handy to work with but i hope it helps a little bit www.industriespoor.nl/tekeningCockerillTypeIV.htm

    • @kevanparker908
      @kevanparker908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bayer Peacock exported similar Tram engines to Australia Crich Tramway museum has one. Steam engine on rails whats the difference?

  • @CNMikado
    @CNMikado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Firemans pit well just remember you ain’t going nowhere with out the good’ol fireman it’s a noble deed to do 😁

  • @vincentgilbert8550
    @vincentgilbert8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely the best description of steam injector operation EVER. Well done sir!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a hideous thing 😂

    • @vincentgilbert8550
      @vincentgilbert8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing like he feeling of watching the water in the glass get lower and lower, while you try and figure out which of the steam gods you have offended. LOL
      @@lmm

  • @andyg3
    @andyg3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    my mates got the one at the lavender line, cracking things!
    so thats means this isnt the only working one in the uk im afraid!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I didn't realise it was in ticket at time of shooting I'm afraid - whoops!

  • @TristanWilder
    @TristanWilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sure it is not a tram engine ... but with just one coach ... it totally reminds me of the first episode of Tobi in Thomas the tank engine : )

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, we call it the tram, even though its not. It's very cute. I've got a pic of it trundling up the line with one wagon and brake van. Looks super.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All steam locos (indeed, all locos period) are beautiful in their own way. Life would be empty if there were no nostalgic locomotives from the good old days to admire and enjoy. Thank you for sharing these videos. :) Makes me happy indeed

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome, really glad you're enjoying what we do!
      It's a very pretty thing, strange, but pretty.

  • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
    @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very interesting, mysterious little locomotive. I love this channel a lot as a heritage volunteer myself, I love the in depth explanations of the engines you look at and the way you show the actual operation. And I totally agree on locos and stock that aren't "Supposed" to run together, sometimes they just look right somehow. Keep up the good work!
    Edit: SIRAPITE- YOU GUYS HAD THE TRACTION ENGINE THING OVER- Tiny industrial stuff is so much fun. The cab area on that reminded me of a "homemade" electric loco I've been in a number of times where the floor inexplicably drops down about a foot immediately after the door.

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes pretty unique,never seen a vertical boilered loco myself, reminds me of a particular Sentinel loco, one ran on a sort of private tramway here in Australia many many moons ago, a mock up of it sits in the town it ran as unfortunately the original (well most of it, some bits may actually be around still, the frame and wheels maybe) was scrapped. Here's a snippit and a link if you're curios.
      "The Kerang & Koondrook Tramway was built in 1889 to connect the Murray River port of Koondrook with the Victorian Railways line to Melbourne via a junction at Kerang, 22 km away. A 4wVBT (4-wheel vertical boiler tank) locomotive from the Sentinel Waggon Works, Shropshire (possibly b/n 5766) was imported in 1929 to work the line and shunt the Murray River wharf sidings."
      www.australiansteam.com/Koondrook.htm

    • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
      @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dunxy Very interesting to see a Sentinel that far afield, I guess something light like that would be very effective on a light tramway line. Cool to see they made a replica of it!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS Thank you very much, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Yes indeed, sometimes totally wrong things work very well together. The cab on the Cockeril is mad. Driver up high, Fireman in the pit. It's just super fun.
      We will feature Sirapite at some point, I'm just not quite sure when. It is utterly bonkers.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dunxy Vertical boiled locos are weird things. Very useful in industry as they'll steam quick.

    • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
      @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Your videos are excellent, very immersive and personal.
      It almost seems like the Cockeril's boiler was designed for something like a crane and they somehow designed a locomotive around that, makes for a way more interesting machine though!
      Ooh, excellent! I'm very curious about Sirapite since it has such a thin little cab and some steam roller-esque design features.

  • @Piglet1625
    @Piglet1625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2525 was sold new in 1907 to the valentin cocq vieille montagne, a zinc mine in Belgium. This is the same company that my loco 1625 also worked for after it finished working as a tram in Brussels city.
    Regards Piglet

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Piglet, your one is looking absolutely superb. I'm rather envious.
      What have you done with your ashpan arrangement?
      Be intrested to see it and how well it works.

  • @warriorstar2517
    @warriorstar2517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some reason, I've gotten extremely interested in locomotives that are unconventional or experimental. This definitely fits the bill for the former.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a really strange little engine. Really good fun though! we've some more strange locomotives lined up too!

  • @simonwood1402
    @simonwood1402 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant locomotive love it 🚂 ❤

  • @HeavyTanker-vx4oq
    @HeavyTanker-vx4oq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thing sounds like a really big Loco with the sound it makes. Yet it's tiny, probably moves just as much a the Ruston, if not less.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It'll shift more than mine will! Sounds brilliant too, really enjoy a day on it.

  • @carbidejones5076
    @carbidejones5076 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are a blast, really enjoyed, thanks

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @SimplyTakuma
    @SimplyTakuma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This locomotive was manufactured by the company SFCM (Societé Francaise de Constructions Mécaniques formerly Cail) from 1906. They got the nickname "inkwell" because this lokomotive has a standing boiler .It was mainly intended for the industry, maybe I see now the same locomotive in the video, than i see here in my book. Maybe this locomotive worked for the Petrol company "Kuhlmann"!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh really - that's interesting to know, thanks for sharing the history!

    • @SimplyTakuma
      @SimplyTakuma 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Also the SFCM produced the atlantic locomotives series 221 for the french state railroad (SNCF), also a part comes from the locomotive producer SACM arround 1900-1905.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's quite a different thing 😂

  • @kingofthepod5169
    @kingofthepod5169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the whitewater valley railroad's old "pit" was a coffin sized hole between the sleepers. Today they have a 2 stall shed and a breakdown crane from roots Blower company.

  • @jazzykingjack2846
    @jazzykingjack2846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That whistle doesn't have a single note to it's name. The locomotive though is definitely unique in its own way.

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would enjoy seeing a bit of the video showing how to fire it. Thanks for the video!!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We may look at firing in a future video.
      It's a pain on that one 😂

  • @timgage8972
    @timgage8972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have one on the Lavender Line in E. Sussex, i've got to say - I kinda like it!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're really good little things!

  • @Parachute_regt
    @Parachute_regt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't it technically a coffee pot engine with a cab???

  • @HeavyTanker-vx4oq
    @HeavyTanker-vx4oq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:44 Year old video now, but when will see see that little LNER 0-6-0 in a Lawrie goes Loco?

  • @thomasm1964
    @thomasm1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can only imagine that Hercule Poirot, he of the little grey cells, was not called in to bring his vast, rational intellect to bear on the design of this little engine.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a strange thing isn't it

  • @timothydelaval1089
    @timothydelaval1089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh ive seen a narrow gauge version of this locomotive at a heritage railway. I beleive it was called a brunnel, identical cylinder layout but kerosene fired.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh really, I've heard of a company that sells live steam with that name, but not a type of narrow guage engine.

  • @jontaylor6094
    @jontaylor6094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always enjoyed turns on this loco.
    But one Christmas special on it will always be the coldest I have ever been on a footplate. Spent the layovers at Dovebrook with both of us sat on the edge of the firing pit with the door open! Still - does raise steam from stone cold in an hour.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was so unpleasant in winter - and it had the board added to try and keep some wind out... Good Times 😂

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 hour is ludicrously fast, whats operating pressure? Is it this fast because its vertical? Ive zero experience lighting up a vertical boiler.

  • @nicholaspadgett8060
    @nicholaspadgett8060 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of Piglets loco on the North Yorkshire Moors railway

  • @Tombola1993
    @Tombola1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, dude, this is an awesome loco.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you agree!

  • @paukastell7210
    @paukastell7210 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    visited the railway last year while on holiday a great little railway

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, it's got a super vibe to it!

  • @twonkfieldrailways4110
    @twonkfieldrailways4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video always wanted to know more about these odd but cute locos. never knew they weren't really trams. interesting to hear about all the weird controls and things, like the overflow to the injector in the cab sounds like a death trap. as for forward and backwards i'd say its like a dmu or a br diesel both ways are forwards. the boiler swapping was very common for most loco classes as it was easier to put a new or spare boiler on a loco then fix the boiler off that ready for the next loco of that class or with the same boiler design, thats one way they spead up overhauls back in the day.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're really nice little engines - so suited to being at the MSLR.
      We call it the Tram, even though its not.
      The injector is treated with the upmost respect - its evil!
      I'll use that on the next driver experience.
      This way is forward.
      This way is also forward. 😂
      Yeah, when they had the A4 great gathering the had way more than 6 a4's represented by all the bits!

    • @twonkfieldrailways4110
      @twonkfieldrailways4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm
      -so that's 6 a4s in preservation and their all original
      -yes (hides 2 a4s worth of rusty parts)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't remember how many where actually represented 😂
      At least two have swapped boilers, Bittern has number 10000's tender, some have changed wheelsets.
      It was a very interesting article.
      Though the Atlantic being built at the bluebell railway has the original regulator handle, so technically its a rebuild not a new build, so maybe we can have some more a4's back?

    • @twonkfieldrailways4110
      @twonkfieldrailways4110 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm oh yeah the ffestiog has lots of 'rebuilds'

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, having a nameplate in common with the original 😂

  • @mamodsteamreturns5492
    @mamodsteamreturns5492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love these engines !! I had the chance to fire one of her sisters Yvonne when she was at the battle field line ..ive non her since I was 5 !! very pleasant to work fire and drive gawjuss engines

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did she steam? This one will steam like a witch, then suddenly die and require a good rake through of the fire.
      I do love a day on it, it's a fantastic Loco.

    • @mamodsteamreturns5492
      @mamodsteamreturns5492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      steamd very very well almost to well..had proper injector and safty valve cover ..used to shit the living daylight out of me when it went off hehe ....just ashame shes now repainted in to a nasty looking green instead of the dark green with red lineing indian red fraims and wheels that she used to be in ..

  • @scootergrant8683
    @scootergrant8683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lawrie, how do you spell the name of that locomotive that was occupying the inspection pit. She's jolly different as I have never seen a steam loco running with an external flywheel. Also, it would be interesting, if you ever travelled to Gloucestershire, if you payed a visit to the leas Bailey light railway and their compressed air locomotives. I am loving all your content, keep up the great work!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't even know that was a railway! I'll drop them a line!
      That was Sirapite she's an Aveling and Porter.

  • @bruce7699
    @bruce7699 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the NYMR the engine shed manager nicknamed ‘PIGLET' owns one of these locomotives , it is painted up in green too

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, he's done a lovely job with Lucie

  • @T3ki1a_
    @T3ki1a_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    🇧🇪 this is no weird, just different 😂

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's very different 😂

  • @HenryGreenEngine3
    @HenryGreenEngine3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it. Absolutely love it.

  • @keithtanner2806
    @keithtanner2806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t understand how he says it is wonderful to drive then proceeds to criticise various controls.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The experience is amazing, it sounds amazing, the regulator is great, it's all just in stupid places 😂
      Things don't have to be perfect for a wonderful sensation.

  • @andrewirobinson
    @andrewirobinson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do the Y7 next please!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's on the list!

  • @patrickverlinden71
    @patrickverlinden71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your Belgian colleagues from the museum railway (Dendermonde - Puurs) have 2 similar locomotives. Sure they can tell you more about them.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to investigate

  • @boots_n_coots
    @boots_n_coots 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely little pufferbelly. All she needs is a proper whistle, don’t you think? Thanks for showing us around!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's crying out for a proper whistle. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @joshualeckenby3542
    @joshualeckenby3542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am i correct in saying that that silencer is a car exhaust 😂

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You condemned injectors as "the work of the devil". You should look at those on a Borrows Well Tank industrial locomotive. They were made to the original Giffard Patent and were known for being even more awkward. Maybe the Cockerill has a very old design of injectors and not improved?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I was able to have a go on one, I certainly would.
      I think these are just original and worn out really.

  • @ukaszwalczak1154
    @ukaszwalczak1154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i know i will get butchered but you could say it's a bit of a tram but still it's mostly a vertical boiler engine

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're most welcome!

  • @edwardmortimer2150
    @edwardmortimer2150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Piglet has one of these on the NYMR

  • @AlyxForest
    @AlyxForest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2525 looks very similar to the mine locomotive from the movie 'Castle in the Sky'. the loco in the movie was driven by cogs rather than typical motion, but otherwise it was very similar; 4 tiny wheels, a vertical boiler, and a square body. Makes me wonder if 2525 was a source of inspiration.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do have similarities!

  • @scottishsteamproductions2014
    @scottishsteamproductions2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see piglet from NYMR got her running at last

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks so smart too!

  • @michaelhayes1678
    @michaelhayes1678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good of you to help preserve the metalwork in each of those areas on the Belgian locomotive. Very thoughtful for the future life of that delightful steamer.

  • @thomasm1964
    @thomasm1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm. As far as I can see, the only way to make this thing run is to connect some hoses to an oil tanker and drive the two as a pair.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would I need oil?

  • @vonyinzer
    @vonyinzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lawrie when you make your trek to the states in the coming months you have got to get to Cass West Virginia... the way that little loco talks reminds me a lot of the geared steamers at Cass West Virginia..

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm desperate to get to Cass! It's stunning!

    • @vonyinzer
      @vonyinzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm There is also a great little RR called the J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad... (Youngstown Steel Heritage) They have a locomotive that is right up your alley... give them a look up if you havent already heard about them..

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Middleton Rly in Leeds got one of the five Cockerill locomotives. It worked there, but has probably been moved away or sold.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's now at the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. Just about to return to traffic.

    • @NJPurling
      @NJPurling 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm I went there. The owner is the chief engineer at Grosmont shed, a.k.a 'Piglet'. I met the guy, but didn't discover the Cockerill in Deviation Shed until later.
      Given that 'Piglet's Cockerill was once a tramway locomotive I hope it has bigger oil cups & reservoirs on the motion.
      There doesn't seen to be much chance it would get from Grosmont to Goathland unaided. The line from Moor Rd up to Middleton Park had some quite steep gradients, though a typical train was only two coaches converted from NQV parcels vans.
      They were only ever meant for a restricted yard shunt, which meant it doesn't have much of a role except on a billiard-table flat line that is short.
      The NYMR Cockerill is reckoned to be ready this year.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Piglett has been in the comments!
      His one is looking amazing. I think they're planning on using it for steam heating.
      Yes, they don't have a massive reserve, very much a shunting only Loco!

    • @NJPurling
      @NJPurling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm
      The locomotive's role is stated as a station pilot and carriage heating during the steam heat season.
      So, it is something to look at between trains when the station would otherwise have zero activity. On Sunday it can heat the carriages of the dining train.
      What do you think it's chances would be of it getting to Goathland without at least one 'blow-up'. I reckon 'Piglet' will be itching to answer that question, because it would make a excellent money-spinner in the early part of the running season. So they know they have at least two hours before there's anything waiting impatiently at Goathland.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm interested to see how well it'll steam. I'd love to see it charging along the Nymr!

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the designer just said screw you, I promise it will work! 😅

    • @lmm
      @lmm  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's certainly very strange

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:30 Strange flexing of the panel!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weight saving!

  • @bow-tiedengineer4453
    @bow-tiedengineer4453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this little thing roars like a shay. honestly, with those tiny wheels, it's a bit similar in function.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great little thing - different purposes though, the shay's were built to haul heavy loads some distance at low speeds.
      This thing is designed to bang a wagon or two around a yard.

    • @bow-tiedengineer4453
      @bow-tiedengineer4453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      different purposes, but similar in that they are maximized for tractive effort rather than speed or power.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh certainly!

  • @jackshiperman8444
    @jackshiperman8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not do a tour of the mid sufk rallway

  • @terrier_productions
    @terrier_productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe this was the first LMM video I have watched..

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a long time ago

  • @welshduckman8562
    @welshduckman8562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man was born 60-70 years too late! :) :)

  • @marto2200
    @marto2200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome !

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess Siraphite can't be moved when it's raining?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can, the owners just didn't want it to be left outside

  • @joefarrow8054
    @joefarrow8054 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bonkers and awesome. Not unlike yourself!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you - to both points 😂

  • @SDE1994
    @SDE1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have you tried asking the industrial railway society about its history?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't - lots of the history in the comments though.

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks a lot like the homade locomotives that some of the american logging railroads would cobble togeather but more refined.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was quite a popular design of shunting Loco. The coffee pot boiler does bare a resemblance to some earlier American stuff

  • @alwaysbearded1
    @alwaysbearded1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think the regulator has a lot of control because there is basically no linkage. You seem a bit split on this one complaining but praising it a lot. The only experience I have with this concept is the Donkey engine we have at the pier. Also vertical boiler. The whistle installed was too loud so we found a quieter one. I should ask them if they can spare the loud one!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be bad, but also rather enjoyable!

  • @instantjimi
    @instantjimi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it even safe to have a whistle that doesn't ring out properly? Hope it gets sorted, cute loco :)

  • @haydengell7442
    @haydengell7442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on the bagnall at mslr?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe at some point!

  • @stefanhowick2961
    @stefanhowick2961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really really like it lawrie's from stefan howick

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super little thing.

  • @0v3rr1d3
    @0v3rr1d3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should get out to the States sometime to try some of our more unique steamers! Fancy a Shay?

  • @cabowerks3973
    @cabowerks3973 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it’s awesome 😎!!!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree!

  • @mamodsteamreturns5492
    @mamodsteamreturns5492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    however.. the one in the video did not visit shackerstone !! your mixing up with Yvonne that's now at the lavender line I believe ..this one I think was at statfold in peaces ..there is another at tyseley in peaces ..there's a 4th at nene valley done up as toby..there's a fifth at north York mores and the 6th was last seen at mid northolk railway ..all but the one at nene valley has ran in preservation

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The information on them seems quite confusing, 2525 is the one that was at Mid Norfolk, I really did struggle researching this, lots of conflicting info.
      If I'm correct I think there is,
      Ours at MSLR,
      One on lavender line, also on service
      One at NYMR almost in service, formally Middleton railway,
      One at NVR on a long term conversion to a 'Toby'
      And maybe one more in bits.

    • @mamodsteamreturns5492
      @mamodsteamreturns5492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the person to ask about them all is martin ashworth ! I belive he said he was involved bringing them over with ben (former owner of Yvonne ) ..personly the best advise I can give you is to look at Yvonne to get 2525 working right and looking right as she was perfect in my opinion ..the sound she made after pulling sir gomer and a 20ton brake van was almost like an 8f bark wise didn't wind her self or nothink

  • @ConnorsWorkshop17
    @ConnorsWorkshop17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get your footplate uniform from ??

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get everything from footplateequipment.co.uk

  • @roberthopper1872
    @roberthopper1872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the Y7 work still work because I would love to see it reviewed. At friend is building a 7 1/4 gauge model of the type 4.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently under overhaul

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird cause it a continental locomotive. Looks just like that one Piglet has @ NYMR railway up in Yorkshire. But at least it's steam, it chuffs, has a whistle & most importantly burns coal! that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's very strange.
      Yes she's the same class as Lucie!

    • @steamgent4592
      @steamgent4592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm so are you ever gonna do a video on large steam like getting with a Black 5, Lizzie, Sutherland, or S&D 7f crew or something? You seem to be locked into Industrial and narrow gauge only

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope so. It's about getting big enough for the big boys to notice us!

  • @VT29steamtrain
    @VT29steamtrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like an interesting loco! A lot different to the locos im used to! Gotta get a good 5 chime on her and it will be heard for miles!! The whostle sounds like when we get too much water in the boiler and the eccess water goes straight out the whistle!! Cheers, VT29steamtrain.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The whistle just is rubbish 😂
      A five chime would be amazing!

    • @VT29steamtrain
      @VT29steamtrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Yeah, Tru! Some of the most impressing whistles are from Australian railways. SAR has the deep sounding 6 and 5 chimes, NSWGR and VR has high pitch 5 chimes and QR and WAGR have high pitch 3 chimes i belive.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're the kind of things that give you a shiver in a very good way 😂

    • @VT29steamtrain
      @VT29steamtrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Yeah Haha 😂🤣😅 Any new engines your working on?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VT29steamtrain We've got a load of stuff lined up to appear on the channel which is rather exciting!

  • @kevanparker908
    @kevanparker908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crich Tramways Museum have, or had an Australian steam Tram made by Bayer Peacock works in Manchester. It looks very similar to your Belgian 2525.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh really, that's interesting. I'll have to have a look at it

    • @kevanparker908
      @kevanparker908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lmm Google it there are plenty of pictures of it on Google maybe video?

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australian or Austrian?

    • @kevanparker908
      @kevanparker908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dunxy Australian me old cobber. New south Wales.

    • @kevanparker908
      @kevanparker908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/eEka_J2bp1U/w-d-xo.html

  • @paulmishler402
    @paulmishler402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to see some very weird vertical boiler locomotives take a look at the Baltimore and Ohio railroads grasshoppers

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do!

  • @roshasensi2220
    @roshasensi2220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought that thig was a brake van

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite 😂

  • @oscardavidson2139
    @oscardavidson2139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if locomotives could talk i do wonder what stories they'd tell

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tales of great joy, adventures and defeat

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hasn't Piglet from the North Yorkshire Railway got one of these being restored?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeap, he commented a while back!

  • @woobyvr9654
    @woobyvr9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “injectors are the work of the devil” truer words have not been spoken. i hate trying to get the monitor injectors on the locos i fire working, bastard things. open the clack, open the isolators for the steam from the turret, and water from the tank, then fiddle with the water trim and steam trim AND the primer. Then if your lucky it’ll grant you the sound of water feeding

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds about right 😂
      Yours sound terrible 😂

    • @woobyvr9654
      @woobyvr9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm yes they are no ideal, lord have mercy on the fireman of the past that didn't have a browns injector on the firemans side like we do now

  • @davidleathart7480
    @davidleathart7480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Er.. is this a missing out take from a Carry On film?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carry on steaming?

  • @fishw
    @fishw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think it's brilliant

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree! It's a mad little thing!

  • @Bolivar2012able
    @Bolivar2012able 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Designed by an apprentice draughtsman high on Laudinum. ;)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a bad thing in all fairness. Just a different thought process

  • @ellis8238
    @ellis8238 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw that at the NYMR a few months ago

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, is theirs running yet? I think they plan to use it to steam heat the coaches in winter.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it looks beautiful. Absolutely top knotch job.

  • @onewaypresto4552
    @onewaypresto4552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any point in the video where the whistle is blown

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a rather gutless whistle, so no,it didn't feature I'm afraid.

    • @onewaypresto4552
      @onewaypresto4552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tks for fomenting I am a big fan

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onewaypresto4552 that's great to hear. We always try our best to respond to every comment!

  • @TVPiles
    @TVPiles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those things were part of tramways and short distance commuting railways, here is a similar one by OEG in Germany:
    fs2.directupload.net/images/150313/9ttgtik2.jpg
    Most were nicknamed "fiery Elias"

  • @totalal4601
    @totalal4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't Piglet of the Yorkshire Moors Railway own something extremely similar?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, he has one of the same class

  • @joshuas1597
    @joshuas1597 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lawrie could you please do a video on NO 2565 please
    Thanks josh

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll try and make it happen in the next year.

  • @cliffleigh7450
    @cliffleigh7450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You say its very difficult to fire but don't actually demonstrate why.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's because the firehole door is so low to the ground, and it's not designed to have an ashpan, so if the fire is too thick and not enough primary air is getting through it just stops making steam.

  • @samdickinson9527
    @samdickinson9527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I right in thinking that the NYMR has one?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they do - I think there's 4 over here

  • @graemew7001
    @graemew7001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know nothing about steam engines but I do know that the designer was on absinthe when they designed this one, no wonder absinthe was banned.....that foot plate looks like a dangerous place to be, even more than a regular engine 😨

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a little bit mad, but it works 😂
      You really do have to watch your step when moving around on it!

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Reminded me of that pat your head, rub your tummy thing with the added opportunity for burns! 😂

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's basically operating a steam engine at all time.
      This one wants you to hop on one leg at the same time! 😂

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Wey I suppose it saves on a gym membership!! I'm still trying to decide which is the front....bit like a Citroen Xsara Picasso from a distance 😂

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I really don't know which way round it is!

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a bonkers little engine. Trust the Belgians...

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's mad, but so much fun!

    • @chrishoggett1375
      @chrishoggett1375 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      gosportjamie the point behind them was to have a shunter that could be lit up quickly in factories where shunting was irregular. The vertical boiler can withstand this better; so the loco would be used, set aside for a few hours and then be called on again.

    • @gosportjamie
      @gosportjamie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrishoggett1375 That makes a lot of sense. Designed for a specific purpose...

  • @jamesdyes9827
    @jamesdyes9827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dad has driven that

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!

  • @loisloopez1973
    @loisloopez1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That engine kinda looks like a steam tram

  • @axidraws4326
    @axidraws4326 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This egine uses more oil than stiff steam locomotives that hasn’t moved in 10 years

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably, something that's sat for ten years will likely have its lubrication blocked, and won't use any oil, nor will it actually lubricate.

  • @miket8874
    @miket8874 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice little loco pal, saw you on the tv the other day aswell lol cant believe ya slept in the 106 haha when they gonna let ya loose with ya ruston again?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a lovely little thing!
      Was I any good? I've not had a chance to watch it yet!
      The plan had been to take a bigger car, which then fell through, then the MR2, which then didn't work, so the mighty 106 was called into service.
      And you know what? Sleeping in it was actually...
      Terrible. Absolutely terrible. We found ourselves an air B&B for the next night. Couldn't face it again 😂
      Stay tuned for Ruston content!

    • @miket8874
      @miket8874 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did spot on, just like watching an LMM episode. Cant blame ya for finding other accommodation.
      I will keep eyes peeled for ruston content.
      As always keep up good work 😁😁😁

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much, its really nice to hear you guys saying you like what we do. The Ruston still lives at the MSLR, that's very much its home. I'm driving it next weekend for our diesel gala!

  • @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band
    @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds to me like that whistle needs to be adjusted and/or cleaned. It doesn't even sound, it's just hissing steam. Perhaps a replacement is in order?

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It needs something doesn't it.
      Ajustment or replacement is certainly required.
      I'd like a 5 chime!

    • @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band
      @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Yes, a 5 chime would be lovely. Or a 3 chime, either one. If you want to order one, there's always the Rizzoli Loco Works. They make locomotive whistles.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... That's worth a look 😂

    • @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band
      @That_One_Guy_In_A_Band 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm well, here's my personal favourite RLW whistle, to get you started: th-cam.com/video/SFAdkq1JnFM/w-d-xo.html be warned, though, this channel is like falling into a rabbit hole of awesome sounding whistles, and you may find yourself wanting more than just one. Or, at least that's my experience with it.