@@the_unmatched_power_of_the_sun And what exactly they did? You are mostly judging the game for technical problems and company mismanagement. Not for the world building, lore, story and characters... If Yoy going to judge by this standard them the picture completely change, the story in CP77 is great, maybe not the most original, but it still is great. The characters are amazing (you may hate Jhonny, but you can't deny that the anti-villain character of Keanu Reeves is well written). Jackie is also a very charismatic character and you really feel when he die, as if you lost your best friend. Many other characters are very well written, Dex part in the game, but impactful, i still remember he getting wasted by Goro Takemura who literally insert itself in V's life in that exactly moment in a glorious way. The dialogues are really great and very realistic. Again, i think folks confused CP77 with Andromeda, nothing can't save Andromeda, because the poor writing and weak characters can't be changed, this isn't the case in CP77, and Mike Pondsmit can be proud of his participation in the game because is precisly the world he create that is the greatest redeeming quality of CP77. CP77 isn't Andromeda, it is Kotor 2 the very same problems and virtues.
@Brendan tell me here then WHY THE FCK, the original trilogy of Mass Effect wich has a far worst gameplay than a lot of games is highly praised as on of the best videogames of all times while Andromeda is regarded as one of the worst even having the best combat of the entire franchise? Why is that? Kotor wich is among the best RPGS of all time is a turned based combat system... Can you explain me how this could be? You know shit about what you are talking, if you knew you would know that CP77 combat is fast paced sometimes closely resembles Doom Eternal. Not only that but you can't play with se several styles, sneaking, melee combat, hacking (wich is essentially magic...). Folks complaining about CP77 mostly do because of bugs and performance, but aside from that theres few problems with the game itself.
One of the most ridiculous things about this fiasco was all the idiots blaming last gen players for this disaster of a game. The mental gymnastics required for that is mind blowing
The thing that (still) makes me so angry about this, is that it's almost like CDPR didn't even try. They procrastinated on really starting it, and acted like it had been in development for years. Then they spent way too much time on the "48 minute gameplay" -demo- deception. Just kept making huge promises and lying about how far along it was, giving it the hard sell. Making the main story shorter and easier to complete was fine, but they used that as an excuse to skimp out on the side content. If it had an additional 2-3 years of development, it might have delivered on half of the promises, and probably would have been great. I know some people say "I had fun, your fault for having such high expectations", but _fuck that._ My expectations wouldn't have been anywhere near as high if they didn't tell so many flat out lies. I know the difference between "marketing puffery" and lies - and CDPR was miles over the line. It's just... one of the most egregious examples of everything a developer can do wrong. Actually the best (recent) counter example I can think of is Control. That game is very fun, very polished, quite original, and creative. The story can be completed in as little as 15 hours, but the optional side content is as good or better. Obviously a totally different kind of game, but Remedy did everything right. It knows what it wants to do and does it extremely well. Actually surprised me a lot, had no idea it would end up being one of my favorite games this millennium.
really well put and I liked the bit about Control as a counter example. The game is certainly not without flaws, but it had a decent enough media campaign, but not too much, was well polished, did not oversell on its features and gave us two very good DLCs that expanded on story, only slightly on gameplay, but gave very good value for their price. meanwhile we have CDPR promising paid and free dlc, but we get a car and some new jackets and that's it so far. patches are done since over half a year and performance is slowly getting there, but not thanks to code optimizations but the developer basically turning off features (there is a video on youtube about that that compares graphical settings in pre-patch versions with the patched versions). In the meantime modders managed to do basically the same and more in their spare time. Does not reflect good on CDPR. I also really wish for this game to come back to the potential it promised, but I highly doubt it at this point. Would not expect story dlc before Q4 2022, maybe even 2023 and multiplayer... no idea if they are actually still working on it. The only thing I can see this game coming around somewhat is just giving the modding community full control, something that is already a thing, but I doubt they will get full access to source code and so on. But it might help to develop this game further. I mean look at Half Life, look at Skyrim, look at Fallout, look at GTA, there are a lot of games that benefitted a LOT from the Modding Community.
@@arvinjay336 It had plenty of potential based on the concept. CDPR just did a terrible job of capitalizing on it. And yes, obviously overhyped the shit out of it.
Ot seems you area bit biased here. I did play control and got bored half way through... But i did play CP77, did two consecutive playthroughs 200 hours total), something i haven't done for years. And yes i can understand folks angry with CDPR, but they DIDN'T GIVE UP. They had to change plans, change schedule, but they didn't give up, they did apologize, but then they did at least TRY to fix their game. And when i started to play i fall in love with the game.
Great video man. I learnt alot more about CD Projekt Red than I thought I would. The apology was somewhat admirable but it does kinda remind me of the BP oil man apologising in South Park🤣
Ok, correction from Poland: there was no copyright act at the time when CD Projekt's founders were selling "pirated" copies. There wasn't official distribution of ANY games really - apart from individual cases, there were pretty much only imports. Early 90s in Poland was a "wild west" time.
I really hate it when I come across channels that are 10x better than mine but have 10x fewer subs. TH-cam is broken, this was some stellar content right here.
@@JoshuaOnline I’ll be a little fair, I get the reasoning behind wanting to go a different direction from whats worked before, but it’s very obvious here that ambition was not being managed well, I’m all for a new direction but making an open world, first person shooter with vehicles and tons of buildings is a huge jump, even rockstar who have mastered the open world genre, even their older games have a lots of dated mechanics, it took time for rockstar to master it, cd projekt red should’ve gone for something simpler and more in their forte before doing something like this, it was both of a mixture of lack of experience and a lack of proper management.
@@mediawatcher9225 management being the main problem I believe. But yeah that ambition was an issue also. And when we think of it, they should've learned that over the years. The Witcher 3 is incredible and a standout in its genre. But the Witcher 1 and 2 had a lot of flaws and mistakes made with them. Mistakes that were learnt from by the time TW3 came around. If CD wanted to hit the ground running with Cyberpunk then more care should've been put into the first few years of Dev time in my opinion. Working on the core systems, less hyped up press releases, delaying it a for a year. Perhaps it would've turned out different. But it's so easy for me to say in hindsight. I don't know exactly what happened there for it to go this poorly.
I will be ruiner for this but I think that CP2077 biggest problem is not bugs but cut content. It has been cut or not developed so much that it is more likely that CDPR do not have money, time or interest to ever fishish it... maybe CP2077 vol 2? Game's finished content is also so half baked that it is very lame and mediocre game. You cannot unleash potential what it has. Im sorry about it but I let CDPR prove me wrong. However, when you look this first half they have not done pretty much anything. Modders are able to do better than actual developer so it is sign that they have moved away this product and there is bare bones team to fix those endless hordes of bugs. The big question comes that how they will add content of this dumpster fire.
for some reason this video ended in my recommendation list and i ended up watching it all. the quality of this video is amazing and i was shocked that you only had 243 subs! hopefully youtube blesses you!
See for the longest time I didn't even realize that's where the memes of Keanu were coming from, I also didn't even hear about Cyberpunk until mid 2020, and I don't understand how I never heard about it until then.
Yeah big meme phenomenon in the gaming world that one! I suppose it was easy to miss somewhat if you didn't see various specific press conferences that usually don't offer too much. Cheers for checking out the video mate!
So unfortunate. Hopefully CDPR will be a cautionary tale to other developers. It's really a shame that they didn't put more focus into getting the PS4 and Xbox versions running as good as they should have - I think a lot of the fallout would have been mitigated. I played on PC and ended up enjoying the game's story for what it was - but it was painfully obvious that the game was unfinished and lacked gigantic swathes of features that would have improved it. Glad I didn't really get sucked into the hype train and avoided any information about the game itself before release; I definitely had a better time with the game having lower expectations.
Yeah I'm in a similar boat to you. I didn't really get involved in the hype for this game, and I feel like that's the only way you could truly enjoy elements of it. With that being said, if I had engaged in most trailers and interviews and invested in all the hype then I would have been bitterly disappointed with the final product. Especially on console. The fact that they couldn't make it run well on the PS4 and Xbox is a little mind-blowing to me still.
@@JoshuaOnline 100% agreed. I went into the game probably as well off as one could - played on PC, didn't have any expectations, and the best of the experience I had was neutral, with brief flashes of "oh yeah, wow this is good" for a few minutes (looking at you, Panam questline)
@@himbourbanist And that was the thing that killed it for me, the game did have flashes of moments where it was incredible. But the rest lacked that something special. Not terrible, but nothing jumped out at me, apart from certain questlines. So if you couple a game that, if it worked perfectly, was a little underwhelming to start with, then add the game breaking bugs and glitches and the whole situation surrounding its creation and marketing, then it can only spell disaster. A disaster which the effects of which were doubled thanks to the hype surrounding the game and the trust put into the developers who, up til that point, had quite a stellar record. It all became a huge mess.
@@JoshuaOnline Exactly. I think that brings up a big factor here as well - it wasn't just the bugs and glitches that were the problem - those can be patched out. It's the systems in the game were fundamentally unfinished or completely absent. You can patch CTDs, buggy vehicles, bad driving, stats that don't actually work, talents that don't actually work - but huge swathes of the game are left completely barebones, like the police "system" that barely interacted with the player and had no tangible reward system attached. And money basically just being used to unlock vehicles and having nearly 0 secondary purpose. These things can't just be patched over - the game is flawed to its core and that's its biggest problem.
@@himbourbanist I agree, fundamentally the game's base mechanics are not up to scratch. And if that's the case then you'll be playing catch-up the whole way through the development cycle to get any sort of product out. As I think(?) I say in the video, the game's world felt hollow. And I'd echo that. The systems you describe were badly implemented, and most of those lend to how the world feels. Night city didn't feel like a living breathing city. I attempt to put a bit of a positive spin on it likening the situation to that of No Man's Sky, these are two completely different scenarios, so the comparison may not be viable. I doubt we'll ever get the Cyberpunk fans envisioned unfortunately.
Great video illustrating the problems with CDPR and Cyberpunk 2077! And let us be honest, it's over. Done. There is no coming back from it. At least for Cyberpunk 2077. The game is still undercooked, very buggy and plain mediocre. Like, unless they are secretly working on a massive overhaul, no amount of patches or dlcs can help it, if the core mechanics aren't fixed/improved. I don't think it's too much to ask of CDPR considering the resources and man power they have. I genuinely want them to turn this situation around and deliver what was promised, but as of writing this only the bare minimum has been done.
Yep, honestly it may just be too much of an uphill battle for them. If the base mechanics are flawed from the get go then that's going to take, as you say, a major overhaul. It'll be interesting to see what they do, they could just cut and run and work on the next Witcher and if that's good, I doubt they would lose TOO many sales from it.
What a terrible empty game. Such a disaster. One of the most disappointing games I’ve ever played. I remember saying “this is it?” “No, this can’t be it….” The city itself it just DEAD. it’s all a facade. The entire game is “go here, shoot everybody, watch the enemies fall to the ground in the most unrealistic way imaginable, loot a box, get gear you can’t even see your character wearing, then repeat. That’s it. That’s the game……….
I cant even imagine how long this took to make. Big respect this is super super well done. Quality content. And yeah CP2077 is a dumpster fire im amazed how they messed it up
The game was released because they thought we would accept what ever they threw at us.. people also talking about the Witcher 3 Being a god like game don’t remember how broken that was as well.. It was over hyped And that’s what you get for trusting a developer who only had a single hit game.
I worked QA for a company who did QA for MS remotely. Having to communicate with a dev team in a completely different country is very difficult. All you can do is report bugs and hope someone sees it. It's very terrible and inefficient way of testing a game. I think first party didn't get hit by this because they're already signed off on moving consoles home. Third party have to have permission. Not to say this is the direct cause, but hell it didn't help.
Definitely sounds like it didn't help, yeah... Lot of things went wrong here, and a few of them could be down to that lack of communication throughout the company. I wonder if the Dev team were told to put the bug fixing on the back burner entirely before the release.
Either it'll go the way of Hello Games's No Man Sky, or it'll go the way of Bethasda's imfamous Fallout 76. It can repair and fix it's game into something beyond playable and infact quite awe-inspiring, or add a crap ton of expensive DLC and go work on a new game.
When The Witcher 3 came out, I was surprised by extremely popular and hyped the game was. Like you said, barely anyone knows The Witcher 1 and 2 despite having sold over 1 million copies each after release. I have already known the game since the first one since my brother played the first game back then. He praises the game a lot too but no one that I know talked about the game. Knowing how great the trilogy was, I have always hoped that CP2077 would be a revolutionary game like they said it would. At the same time, I also thought that they're on a Mission Impossible. Alas, a Mission Impossible it is. I hope the two friends realise how hard it is to actually make something new. Sure, they have done a lot of things that's new to them but not exactly new to this world. The Witcher video games series were something new for CD Projekt, but RPG games have been in the world for decades. Cyberpunk 2077 however, promises to do things that almost no one have done. Perhaps many have attempted but failed or stopped at the brainstorming session realising how difficult it is. Add that to the fact that CDPR also took a step back with a second thought and continued to give The Witcher full support while they announced a completely brand new game that needed all the time they have that they should have given. When you have a grand ambition of making a revolutionary video game, please take a deep breath, sit back, relax and remind yourself that Star Citizen exists. Remind yourself of the current state of Star Citizen. It is exactly those ambitions that have been pulling the game back over a decade. New ambitions keep piling on while the old ambitions have yet to be realised or materialised. Even if they're not impossible, budget and time constraints exists. These two are the only thing that makes anything impossible and yet they're also we humans cannot have freely.
I also agree that the dead world is worse than the bugs. I haven't encountered as much bugs as others did in this game. But to me, the disappointment stems largely from how "nothing" the game is. The story is meh, the gameplay is meh, everything is meh. It's just a mediocre game on all fronts. I still had over 100 hours on it during the first week of release and completed all side quests because I wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on anything new introduced by the game. I explored every nook and cranny of the game. I managed to unlock a fast travel point to a place that I've never been to and would've been teleported out otherwise due to a bug. But it's still nothing. There's nothing new. There's nothing revolutionary. The game is pretty much a looter shooter with traffic and pedestrians in it. There's nothing else to be done other than talk, walk and shoot. The game probably would've done a lot better if it was a simple open world adventure game, with linear paths and highly curated gameplay. Most of the meh-ness of the game came from it trying to not be linear when it really is a linear game, which also brings out all of the glitches and bugs.
Great video! I counted one hundred and fifty trillion edits made, which is cool. I've seen videos achieve higher numbers, but they usually do so by just throwing in all sorts of random shit that I personally consider a form of assault and should be actionable by law. Not here though, baby! Seriously, this was fantastic and I didn't know any of that about the beginning of CDPR. I'm betting they will know from here on out to keep that hype train under control.
@@JoshuaOnline These vids must take a lot of work and it's much appreciated. I'm subbed and got you vids in a playlist for later consumption I look forward to. Good luck, hope your channel blows up!
If Cyberpunk 2077 would be Witcher 3 in Cyberpunk world, with all that cutscenes, same quality of main and side quests, then these videos on YT would not exist. But we have got, what we have got, "Action adventure in city" with less adventure elements, then GTA, and less epic, then average FPS.
The most glaring issues of the game are the non-existent AI and the fact that it's COMPLETELY scripted and on rails with ZERO dynamic events whatsoever and ZERO interactivity within the city. To be honest it's still mind boggling considering they marketed this game as "the next generation of open world adventures"...
Might be one of the biggest cases of promises being made and not being fulfilled by a developer. The world didn't feel quite alive. That was its biggest fault for me personally.
@@JoshuaOnline Same here! Night City is UNBELIEVABLE but there's nothing to do or interact with and the awful, awful AI makes it even worse... such a shame! Still hoping in a redemption arc but it's not looking good.
@@twentytwobeatz I think we're all clinging onto some sort of redemption arc... Perhaps we'll see it for CDPROJEKTRED, but not for Cyberpunk unfortunately...
Think every PS4 is just different with different games. Nevertheless, for some reason red dead redemption 2 ran pretty well on mine whereas Cyberpunk didn't. Good to know others had a better experience in regards to that aspect though!
@@JoshuaOnline well red dead always ran great, just made my PS4 sound like a Mack truck sometimes, cyberpunk didn’t run nearly as well, but I never got that sound like my PS4 was overworking with it lol weird
Another great video as always. I haven't played the game myself yet but I do hope they do a 'No man's sky' and manage to deliver the game they promised to fans
Just to let you know that's basically impossible because unlike no man's Sky they can't just add back all of the game mechanics that were cut since the game itself makes it impossible
@@mariobadia4553 I agree. Unfortunately the game is just missing too many things that can't be patched in. It will always feel like a vague shadow of itself.
Right?! TH-cam is on point for recommending this channel. The A.I. algorithm is getting smart, but maybe when self-awareness kicks in it'll decide that instead of killing everyone it can enslave humanity just as easily by introducing us to some crackin' content!
@@WeisgerberCubed I think I got caught up in the fear-mongering lol. I watched Elon on Rogan and I've patiently been waiting for Skynet to activate & go online. Those fuckers got me again, man doh
The second they announced KR I knew the game would be trash. Makes sense that the game is on equal level to his acting skills. Great job on the video. 👏👏👏
Cheers mate! Took a long while to edit this one, so I'm glad it paid off! More to come. I actually thought Reeves did ok in the role, not the best choice in my opinion though. Imagine if they got an actor on his level of status, but they were more personable, had more range perhaps.
If they had just been honest. That’s all any company has to do. Be honest. If you are releasing a buggy mess, tell us it’s a buggy mess( and probably drop the price a bit). People appreciate honesty from big businesses, it makes them more human
There was more background info than other pieces done by other TH-camr game commentators so nice research. You did fail to mention the refund debacle between CD PR and Sony as CD PR promised refunds without consulting either MS or Sony. MS was more amenable to the Idea wheras Sony took a week or so before pulling the game from their PS store ( a first some have said not sure if thats correct). Myself was never hyped about its release or that interested, I just ate my popcorn watching the shit show unfold. Though I have played video games since pong first came out. With RPG,s being my preferance, I cannont fathom " Gamers" hyping pre-release anything. Placing expectations upon a product before it has been tested examined. Especially with the Corporate mentality that permiates the AA game franchises. Its not the first time such BS has happened either except in this case CD PR promised the moon and delivered a relection in a dirty puddle of the moon. I have Follwed in Detail this whole debacle and the product that was delivered was not what was promised. In fact I would go so far to say that Skyrim has greater depth and replayability , GTA4 has better AI,world building and depth. CD PR was way out of their depth and I suspect knew it after 2 years of developent time and made their own noose which they could not escape. I Appluad NSM team being smaller but no less ambitious they are delivering on their promises. Currently Fdev are facing same Issues with Elite Dangerous and their latest release. Even Star Citizen is creeping towards their extremly ambitious Target goals but they understood fully that development of both the hardware and Game engine needed was for the future afuture we have just entered with the current CPU's and GPU's now avaliable. CD PR could never have built the game they was aiming to make untill now but its too late for them now a reputation takes years to establish and a day to destroy.
That whole refund thing was something I definitely thought of... But completely slipped my mind when I came to write the script. So totally my bad. The hit CD have taken here is major... I do think a lot rests on their next release. It simply has to be good. And in my opinion, so do the next couple of releases also. Only then will their reputation be somewhat repaired (Cyberpunk remaining as a significant blot on their record). I do think it was the initial work on the title that led to subsequent failures to achieve what they had set out to do. It should be a warning to other companies and to themselves going forward.
every criticism of the developer, completely ignores the covid epidemic and the economic consequences. While I'm with you on them on the bugs and the failures. It must also be taken into consideration what was happening.
Exactly right, it's been awhile since I wrote this script but did I mention anything about it? I vaguely remember that they themselves said Covid hadn't really hindered their development.
@@JoshuaOnline i wouldn’t believe that, the entire IT industry was affected negatively by the pandemic. If not the developers certainly the owners and investors that are watching at the time economic dumpster fires artificially being lit all over the globe.
nah, not buying it. COVID certainly had its effects, but wasnt a thing until early 2020 in Europe, so this was at a timepoint the game SHOULD have been come a long way and just polishing/balancing should have been done. As we now know, they crunched hard to make it even run on consoles, so basic work was still being done, actual development and rework after keanu came on board was just 2-3 years. so COVID was certainly partly to blame as well, but also other developers managed to get working games out. This was flawed from the start, certainly.
You can compare this to no mans sky That was a procedurally generated game with a good foundation. They just added on to it. But Cyber Punk has a systematic problem with its very foundation. Not something you can just add on to and improve. They’re better off making a part 2 or completely hitting this game abs basically starting from scratch
It was a stretch to compare the two games, they are ultimately very different situations. Perhaps there were better examples to use. Just wanted to give it some hope 🤣
I’ve bought this game twice. One for the PS4, one for the Xbox series X. And I played the PC version as I borrowed it from a friend. I can say that the PS4 version was definitely the worst, especially in the first four months. On the Xbox series X, I cannot compare it to it during that time. But I can say as a present, it plays very smooth. I maybe get one crash every three days on it. And very subtle glitches tend to pop up occasionally, like a temporarily invisible weapon. As of present on the PS4, it’s playable for like four hours. After four hours, the ugly scars tend to show their ugly faces once more. Not quite as terrible as it was during the first quarter of release, but shit. It’s been almost a year. And as on for the PC, I played that over the summer. And I can say that the PC version, I never crashed. And I had even more subtle glitches that would pop up rarely, like invisible text caption with dialogue. So, I can say that definitely don’t try to get it currently for the PS4. Even though it’s available on the marketplace, just don’t put yourself through that. I definitely recommend it for either a next generation console or for the PC.
Yeah, it came back on the marketplace recently after this video's release... It's still a problematic game to run on the PS4, although it is getting better slowly. This is to be expected though, I imagine.
What about all the youtubers that promoted the game when they knew it was dog shit? Yong Yeah, Alanah Pearce & so on. Should be crucifying them as well.
12:25 why is Blade Runner called a 'live action movie' ? What is so special about not being an animated movie as to warrant explicit mentioning of 'live action' ?! Why not just call it a movie ? Very nice vid by the way
Honestly I wrote the line a while ago, but I think it was just to highlight the difference in the sources of inspiration CD had when creating this game.
@@JoshuaOnline yeah, sorry, dunno why I commented that super irrelevant tidbit. Was my learning moment of the day I guess and reason of explicitly calling it live-action I think was to highlight the difference with the example right after which was something animated. Anyways, very cool and informative vid, watch it all the way through 👌
@@Rombbb No problem mate! Was a good question about how I used the language in that section! Thanks for watching it all the way through, really appreciate it!
Just as I predicted in April/May, we have seen no improvements to gameplay, there is no DLC & nothing is on the horizon. The problem is delaying the game a year would've done nothing. It needed 2.5 to 3 years more time and to be an exclusive Xbox Series/PS5/PC. I got my copy in late March for $35 and expected it would eventually get better but that's not going to happen. They've removed all talk of DLC/Multi-player to come and are now saying the next-gen version will probably come out late spring/early summer. They will not get repeat buyers, eg I technically have the Xb1 version and there's no way in hell I pay them another penny. Xbox Series and PS5 are the future so they really need to support that. If they do a good job of that next year, maybe CyberPunk 2087 will be worth giving a try around 2025. Otherwise, I'll never seriously look at one of their games again. Worst triple A bait and switch ever.
It definitely, definitely needed more time... And the support for it since has been lacking. I don't really see it improving all too much. It's all just a massive shame. Might have to do an update video at some point.
I would still call PS4 and Xbox One the "current" generation, you know... since they're the only ones 99% of the populace can currently access. Just a minor nitpick, but good job. Kinda wondering if they didn't pay the scalpers to pull this, so by the time most regular (read broke) folks like myself could buy a PS5 of Xbox whatever the hell they named it this time; there'd actually be a passable roster of games to pull from? o. O (No I don't have a tinfoil hat folks, it'd cost me too much to build one) I've expended about all the rage I have over having waited 2 yrs on preorder for my Xbox One copy of this game. (My PS4 broke during such time, so I actually had to choose to switch consoles since I did myself - Xbox did have a better compared library of RPG's at that point I hadn't played, or so I thought) I will say this game is a prime example of reason you should NEVER preorder. Why buy something that's not even done yet, and frankly it's giving them money for essentially free that they can technically run away with. Well played, CD Peeved Right off. (Guess I'm like Wolverine; I'm not quite done yet)
Thanks for joining (?) I'm assuming! More long vids in the early stages of production because I'm dealing with real life stuff, but eventually, new longer vids will be out!!!
Fraud is a criminal act where deception and lies are used to cause a party to part with value ($) in exchange for something they believe to be as stated. So... CDPR did commit fraud by claiming their console games were up to industry standards (which for a system as old as XBOX 360 was very few crashes and the ability to run at a rock steady 30 FPS). I am on PC and loved playing the game, the graphical glitches cannot be fixed IMHO as the game engine sux and until they get a better game engine you will always get 2 assets occupying the same space at the same time. But what I cant excuse them for is that they constantly change, nerf and remove exploits, items in loot boxes, etc. as the only thing that does is destroy the players enjoyment of the game and since NO ONE asked to do any of things they did in all their patches, its an insult to every player who bought their game. Watch my video on 1.2 sux and 1.3 sux to see what I am talking about. Fixing the graphical glitches would be nice, fixing the lack of immersion compared to Witcher 3 would be nice, fixing the AI would be nice, fixing the Cop interactions would be nice, fixing the player's character customization would be nice, making a harder difficulty would be nice, making a new game + would be nice, and making a Co-op and PVP online gaming experience as an option would be nice, but NO ONE asked CDPR to get rid of any exploits, or change the game play, or nerf Netrunner builds, or nerf gun damage, etc. But...what do you expect from a company that lie to you to get $, and react to all the hate that people put on them, I guess they hate on us back.
I guess they're focusing on the wrong areas for the updates, but it's hardly a surprise as they didn't focus in the right areas in production. Imo exploits that add to the game instead of detracting anything shouldn't be altered, the game already has taken a hit on its player base, why take additional hits by, as you say, fixing things that no one really wanted to be fixed. We'll have to see if the Fraud issue is resolved in court (or out of it). I'm not sure it has to this day (?) Thanks for checking out the video mate!
@@JoshuaOnline If you commit fraud you get charged but this is a white collar crime and business owners never get charged with crimes, they only pay $ instead (like a civil suit). If you send someone a bill that is not justified or valid AND...the government hates you, you get charged with the crime of mail fraud, but those in power never do.
I'm no game developer and I've never so much as written a line of code for anything productive, but why do developers multi-task on various elements of a game like multi-player, city creation, rpg aspects etc etc instead of concentrating on one thing at a time? Lets say you wanted a game to be a fps like Cyberpunk. Why doesn't every dev at a given company concentrate on how exactly this fps works and how the character moves and feels and fleshes out what a basic character build would be versus an intermediate and so on and so forth. Then after you have the gameplay concepts down, you focus on how that gameplay is going to be best used and experienced in a given map of a game. thus moving on to the actual Sandbox or "world" of a game. Perhaps i sound like a complete amateur and i am, but i just never understood why game companies have to have 10 different irons in the fire during development and then slapping em together and hope it all works together with seemingly no communication like i heard with CDPR. it just seems so sloppy.
How developers make games and the process that goes into doing so has always been an interest of mine. Thinking of doing a quick guide with all the different methods of development all the other companies use. My rather uneducated take on it is that developers have different teams working on a particular element on a game. They work quite close with one another so that everything works together. I wonder if some companies DO use your model of development. If they do focus on one aspect first before moving on to the next one. I'd be interested to research it when I get the chance.
One thing few have mentioned is that much of the clusterfuck that is Cyberpunk is due to massive diversity hiring. The W3 team vs the CP team is like night and day and the results show. Look at how many people bailed during the making of CP. That should tell you a lot about what was going on behind the scenes. Incompetent people hired to promote an agenda results in shitty programming. The "they took on more than they could handle" is just a cope to spin what went wrong.
Great video. I have to say that maybe people should have read the water mark at the top of that demo, I remember when that came out and people were acting as if that was the final game. On top of that just because some nice guy is in the game I have no idea why that was some sort of guarantee of it being good. At the end of the day a lot of things people are angry about is down to their own exaggerated expectations of Cyberpunk 2077 and blind faith in a company of all things. The game released in an unacceptable state and CDPR got what they deserved but the double standards of so many people is laughable, even Fallout 76, Anthem and all the rest never got this kind of hate and backlash. Personally when it comes to the game I actually love it, but then again I picked it up for practically nothing, after patch 2.0, never took any notice of promises made by people wanting your money, playing on a high end rig with a 3080RTX and modded it from the start to fix a lot of the remaining problems. Frankly the only problems I have had are a few graphical glitches and the odd tiny bug, for me its way more than I ever expected from a company who I had never taken any notice of or played any Witcher game.
The main thing causing those double standards is the people's hopes being so high. While there was hype for fallout 76 AND Anthem, players knew the reputation of those companies going into their respective games. (Bethesda is known for bugs on console systems) Most were either unaware or just blind to CDPROJEKTRED'S previous shortcomings with their Witcher games. All that hope built up, hype came with it, expectations were dragged up also, and they were simply shattered upon people playing the game. Plus with the delays people thought they were due to get something good. And they should have got something better than what was presented at launch. But you're right, there are no guarantees. The fact remains that CD knowingly withdrew any footage of the game running on the older gens of consoles. I agree though, I loved the game. I hadn't followed the production of the game that closely pre-launch and therefore had little expectations. If I had, I would've been very upset at the promises and deceit used by the company. I went into the video with an open mind, thinking that it could turn out that CDProjekt had an easy to defend reason for their actions, but as the research process went on, I found I couldn't defend it. I could only try to put the point across that this company (although they've created incredibly personal experiences) are not your friends. They will do anything in their power to keep themselves afloat. Edit: with the unaware and blind thing I'm talking about the new player base CD had appealed to.
Do you play many games? I have a hunch that you dont. We were promised by CDPR, for 8 years(!), a first person open ended RPG with a countless number of innovative next gen things to look forward too. Who says that? only CDPR. Never have I heard a game company big up their game so much.., but instead were sold a first person linear action adventure game which you can complete in less that 15 hours. How is this "people are angry about is down to their own exaggerated expectations of Cyberpunk 2077 and blind faith in a company of all things"? We were told one thing and sold another mate. We are swindled. CDPR didnt realise they were swindling people, its not scam, just a massively irresponsible company with no real desire to please anyone but themselves. Im not saying the game was shit, it just wasnt what we were told it was going to be.
they couldn't make a game in 8 years with all the money and hype in the world how can they make a good game now? would they need 20-30 years to make a game? done when ready like Star citizen? CDPR screams of incompetence and greed. The lead ques designer left almost all side quests unfinished and called them "open ended" as form of art decision. CDPR wasted time on including journalists and youtubers like Alana Pierce. And now the game is one big pile of trash CDPR is one big pile of thrash they leaked data lied to us to investors and getting sued
This game got nominated for 2 best music and best RPG at game awards it might be a redemption arc for them if they win and get better but thank god it didnt get GOTY though
To be honest, Cyberpunk winning awards for this trojan horse of a game points to how bad games have become, how deceptive marketing is accepted by the industry, and how corrupt the "review" system is. Look at how many professional reviewers heaped praise on the broken mess that the game was at release... Cyberpunk 2077 winning awards is an indictment of the entire industry.
@@HanLi1984 you're only brought up more problems to the gaming industy down on the line if you making excuses like this regardless, when even The Godfather on PS2 has functional police system then your so called "Next Generation of Open World Adventure"
@@adlibbed2138 nope. This game is fantastic, looks beautiful, plays awesome, it’s indeed demanding. I have nothing to do with godfather 2. What I said is simple, if you want to truly enjoy cyberpunk2077, buy the best PC. A lot of bugs happen with lower FPS, or on a busy CPU, you should know about that. This is a great game, the flaws are it’s not ready for low end. End of story.
@@HanLi1984 whatever floats your boat, but my point still stands that if you put whoever the next "pro consumer" companies you like upon the pedestal like (previously) this company was, you're only beget some more problems within the gaming industy
Imagine Mike Pondsmith’s feelings at this very moment.
Imagine his thoughts on how CDPR favored shareholders over his vision.
True, must be gutting to have your creation and vision tarnished like that.
I hope he beat their asses for what they did
@@the_unmatched_power_of_the_sun And what exactly they did? You are mostly judging the game for technical problems and company mismanagement.
Not for the world building, lore, story and characters...
If Yoy going to judge by this standard them the picture completely change, the story in CP77 is great, maybe not the most original, but it still is great.
The characters are amazing (you may hate Jhonny, but you can't deny that the anti-villain character of Keanu Reeves is well written).
Jackie is also a very charismatic character and you really feel when he die, as if you lost your best friend.
Many other characters are very well written, Dex part in the game, but impactful, i still remember he getting wasted by Goro Takemura who literally insert itself in V's life in that exactly moment in a glorious way.
The dialogues are really great and very realistic.
Again, i think folks confused CP77 with Andromeda, nothing can't save Andromeda, because the poor writing and weak characters can't be changed, this isn't the case in CP77, and Mike Pondsmit can be proud of his participation in the game because is precisly the world he create that is the greatest redeeming quality of CP77.
CP77 isn't Andromeda, it is Kotor 2 the very same problems and virtues.
@Brendan tell me here then WHY THE FCK, the original trilogy of Mass Effect wich has a far worst gameplay than a lot of games is highly praised as on of the best videogames of all times while Andromeda is regarded as one of the worst even having the best combat of the entire franchise? Why is that?
Kotor wich is among the best RPGS of all time is a turned based combat system...
Can you explain me how this could be? You know shit about what you are talking, if you knew you would know that CP77 combat is fast paced sometimes closely resembles Doom Eternal.
Not only that but you can't play with se several styles, sneaking, melee combat, hacking (wich is essentially magic...).
Folks complaining about CP77 mostly do because of bugs and performance, but aside from that theres few problems with the game itself.
@@efxnews4776 the story is bad
Comparing the hype to now... Only one quote comes to mind: "YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE SITH, NOT JOIN THEM!" 😰
Exactly right!
“ YOU WERE MEANT TO DESTROY THE GREEDY CORPORATIONS NOT JOIN THEM”
Well Vader did redeem itself at the end, isn't?
One of the most ridiculous things about this fiasco was all the idiots blaming last gen players for this disaster of a game. The mental gymnastics required for that is mind blowing
I can't understand how people would even go about blaming that section of people...
Wanna know what's hilarious? the moronic fantards of CDPR still simp to this scam of a game to this day.
The thing that (still) makes me so angry about this, is that it's almost like CDPR didn't even try. They procrastinated on really starting it, and acted like it had been in development for years. Then they spent way too much time on the "48 minute gameplay" -demo- deception. Just kept making huge promises and lying about how far along it was, giving it the hard sell. Making the main story shorter and easier to complete was fine, but they used that as an excuse to skimp out on the side content. If it had an additional 2-3 years of development, it might have delivered on half of the promises, and probably would have been great.
I know some people say "I had fun, your fault for having such high expectations", but _fuck that._ My expectations wouldn't have been anywhere near as high if they didn't tell so many flat out lies. I know the difference between "marketing puffery" and lies - and CDPR was miles over the line.
It's just... one of the most egregious examples of everything a developer can do wrong. Actually the best (recent) counter example I can think of is Control. That game is very fun, very polished, quite original, and creative. The story can be completed in as little as 15 hours, but the optional side content is as good or better. Obviously a totally different kind of game, but Remedy did everything right. It knows what it wants to do and does it extremely well. Actually surprised me a lot, had no idea it would end up being one of my favorite games this millennium.
really well put and I liked the bit about Control as a counter example. The game is certainly not without flaws, but it had a decent enough media campaign, but not too much, was well polished, did not oversell on its features and gave us two very good DLCs that expanded on story, only slightly on gameplay, but gave very good value for their price. meanwhile we have CDPR promising paid and free dlc, but we get a car and some new jackets and that's it so far. patches are done since over half a year and performance is slowly getting there, but not thanks to code optimizations but the developer basically turning off features (there is a video on youtube about that that compares graphical settings in pre-patch versions with the patched versions). In the meantime modders managed to do basically the same and more in their spare time. Does not reflect good on CDPR. I also really wish for this game to come back to the potential it promised, but I highly doubt it at this point. Would not expect story dlc before Q4 2022, maybe even 2023 and multiplayer... no idea if they are actually still working on it. The only thing I can see this game coming around somewhat is just giving the modding community full control, something that is already a thing, but I doubt they will get full access to source code and so on. But it might help to develop this game further. I mean look at Half Life, look at Skyrim, look at Fallout, look at GTA, there are a lot of games that benefitted a LOT from the Modding Community.
@@Luemm3l the game never had potential to begin with it was an OVERHYPED game that desperately wanted to be Rockstar games and failed spectacularly.
@@arvinjay336 It had plenty of potential based on the concept. CDPR just did a terrible job of capitalizing on it. And yes, obviously overhyped the shit out of it.
Agree, this is huge reputational damage to cd project red brand
Ot seems you area bit biased here.
I did play control and got bored half way through...
But i did play CP77, did two consecutive playthroughs 200 hours total), something i haven't done for years.
And yes i can understand folks angry with CDPR, but they DIDN'T GIVE UP.
They had to change plans, change schedule, but they didn't give up, they did apologize, but then they did at least TRY to fix their game.
And when i started to play i fall in love with the game.
Great video man. I learnt alot more about CD Projekt Red than I thought I would. The apology was somewhat admirable but it does kinda remind me of the BP oil man apologising in South Park🤣
Ok, correction from Poland: there was no copyright act at the time when CD Projekt's founders were selling "pirated" copies. There wasn't official distribution of ANY games really - apart from individual cases, there were pretty much only imports. Early 90s in Poland was a "wild west" time.
Yes probably should have expressed that more clearly! My bad! Thank you for the correction!
I really hate it when I come across channels that are 10x better than mine but have 10x fewer subs. TH-cam is broken, this was some stellar content right here.
Appreciate it greatly mate! That's definitely high praise, more to come in the future hopefully!
We can't change what's done, we can only move on.
Genuinely surprised at how few views and subs this guy has. Subbed, Liked, commented, hope your engagement grows soon
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Just got to keep making the content and pit the time and effort in I suppose 👍
The Polish government gave CDPR a small gift of 7 million dollars, big oof.
Big oof indeed
7 million dollars and the game looked like a neon light dumpster fire.
How cd projekt red turned from the most beloved company to one of the most hated, this game completely annihilated their reputation.
Yep, it might be one of the most severe turnarounds I've ever seen with just one game.
@@JoshuaOnline I’ll be a little fair, I get the reasoning behind wanting to go a different direction from whats worked before, but it’s very obvious here that ambition was not being managed well, I’m all for a new direction but making an open world, first person shooter with vehicles and tons of buildings is a huge jump, even rockstar who have mastered the open world genre, even their older games have a lots of dated mechanics, it took time for rockstar to master it, cd projekt red should’ve gone for something simpler and more in their forte before doing something like this, it was both of a mixture of lack of experience and a lack of proper management.
@@mediawatcher9225 management being the main problem I believe. But yeah that ambition was an issue also. And when we think of it, they should've learned that over the years. The Witcher 3 is incredible and a standout in its genre. But the Witcher 1 and 2 had a lot of flaws and mistakes made with them. Mistakes that were learnt from by the time TW3 came around. If CD wanted to hit the ground running with Cyberpunk then more care should've been put into the first few years of Dev time in my opinion.
Working on the core systems, less hyped up press releases, delaying it a for a year. Perhaps it would've turned out different. But it's so easy for me to say in hindsight. I don't know exactly what happened there for it to go this poorly.
I will be ruiner for this but I think that CP2077 biggest problem is not bugs but cut content. It has been cut or not developed so much that it is more likely that CDPR do not have money, time or interest to ever fishish it... maybe CP2077 vol 2? Game's finished content is also so half baked that it is very lame and mediocre game. You cannot unleash potential what it has. Im sorry about it but I let CDPR prove me wrong.
However, when you look this first half they have not done pretty much anything. Modders are able to do better than actual developer so it is sign that they have moved away this product and there is bare bones team to fix those endless hordes of bugs. The big question comes that how they will add content of this dumpster fire.
I think they may ditch development for the game soon, it would take a brave developer to release a second Cyberpunk game after the first.
Why would you be ruined for this? That's an extremely common opinion, shared by me and just about anyone that played it.
for some reason this video ended in my recommendation list and i ended up watching it all. the quality of this video is amazing and i was shocked that you only had 243 subs!
hopefully youtube blesses you!
Thank you! I'm very appreciative that people are getting recommend this! Thanks for the compliments again, more to come hopefully!
See for the longest time I didn't even realize that's where the memes of Keanu were coming from, I also didn't even hear about Cyberpunk until mid 2020, and I don't understand how I never heard about it until then.
Yeah big meme phenomenon in the gaming world that one! I suppose it was easy to miss somewhat if you didn't see various specific press conferences that usually don't offer too much. Cheers for checking out the video mate!
So unfortunate. Hopefully CDPR will be a cautionary tale to other developers. It's really a shame that they didn't put more focus into getting the PS4 and Xbox versions running as good as they should have - I think a lot of the fallout would have been mitigated.
I played on PC and ended up enjoying the game's story for what it was - but it was painfully obvious that the game was unfinished and lacked gigantic swathes of features that would have improved it. Glad I didn't really get sucked into the hype train and avoided any information about the game itself before release; I definitely had a better time with the game having lower expectations.
Yeah I'm in a similar boat to you. I didn't really get involved in the hype for this game, and I feel like that's the only way you could truly enjoy elements of it.
With that being said, if I had engaged in most trailers and interviews and invested in all the hype then I would have been bitterly disappointed with the final product. Especially on console.
The fact that they couldn't make it run well on the PS4 and Xbox is a little mind-blowing to me still.
@@JoshuaOnline 100% agreed. I went into the game probably as well off as one could - played on PC, didn't have any expectations, and the best of the experience I had was neutral, with brief flashes of "oh yeah, wow this is good" for a few minutes (looking at you, Panam questline)
@@himbourbanist And that was the thing that killed it for me, the game did have flashes of moments where it was incredible. But the rest lacked that something special. Not terrible, but nothing jumped out at me, apart from certain questlines.
So if you couple a game that, if it worked perfectly, was a little underwhelming to start with, then add the game breaking bugs and glitches and the whole situation surrounding its creation and marketing, then it can only spell disaster.
A disaster which the effects of which were doubled thanks to the hype surrounding the game and the trust put into the developers who, up til that point, had quite a stellar record.
It all became a huge mess.
@@JoshuaOnline Exactly. I think that brings up a big factor here as well - it wasn't just the bugs and glitches that were the problem - those can be patched out. It's the systems in the game were fundamentally unfinished or completely absent. You can patch CTDs, buggy vehicles, bad driving, stats that don't actually work, talents that don't actually work - but huge swathes of the game are left completely barebones, like the police "system" that barely interacted with the player and had no tangible reward system attached. And money basically just being used to unlock vehicles and having nearly 0 secondary purpose. These things can't just be patched over - the game is flawed to its core and that's its biggest problem.
@@himbourbanist I agree, fundamentally the game's base mechanics are not up to scratch. And if that's the case then you'll be playing catch-up the whole way through the development cycle to get any sort of product out.
As I think(?) I say in the video, the game's world felt hollow. And I'd echo that. The systems you describe were badly implemented, and most of those lend to how the world feels. Night city didn't feel like a living breathing city.
I attempt to put a bit of a positive spin on it likening the situation to that of No Man's Sky, these are two completely different scenarios, so the comparison may not be viable.
I doubt we'll ever get the Cyberpunk fans envisioned unfortunately.
when i clicked the video i said i would only watch while i eat my pizza rolls, 40minutes passed and im still watching. subbed
Cheers mate! Always nice to hear something like that!
Great video illustrating the problems with CDPR and Cyberpunk 2077! And let us be honest, it's over. Done. There is no coming back from it. At least for Cyberpunk 2077. The game is still undercooked, very buggy and plain mediocre. Like, unless they are secretly working on a massive overhaul, no amount of patches or dlcs can help it, if the core mechanics aren't fixed/improved. I don't think it's too much to ask of CDPR considering the resources and man power they have. I genuinely want them to turn this situation around and deliver what was promised, but as of writing this only the bare minimum has been done.
Yep, honestly it may just be too much of an uphill battle for them. If the base mechanics are flawed from the get go then that's going to take, as you say, a major overhaul. It'll be interesting to see what they do, they could just cut and run and work on the next Witcher and if that's good, I doubt they would lose TOO many sales from it.
I knew it it's those DASTERLY POLANDERS!!
How can u only have 84 subs mate....great work!
Spread the word if you want mate! More videos always in the works!
High Quality content as per usual! :)
Thank you! More coming soon!
What a terrible empty game. Such a disaster. One of the most disappointing games I’ve ever played. I remember saying “this is it?” “No, this can’t be it….” The city itself it just DEAD. it’s all a facade. The entire game is “go here, shoot everybody, watch the enemies fall to the ground in the most unrealistic way imaginable, loot a box, get gear you can’t even see your character wearing, then repeat. That’s it. That’s the game……….
Yep, it's a shocking truth that the game's depth just isn't that deep. And that's what really, truly killed the game off for me.
I cant even imagine how long this took to make. Big respect this is super super well done. Quality content.
And yeah CP2077 is a dumpster fire im amazed how they messed it up
Appreciate it mate!
Not as long as the game....
@@MightyHawx 😭😭
Very well written video. This should have way more views
Appreciate it! Thanks for the compliment!
The game was released because they thought we would accept what ever they threw at us.. people also talking about the Witcher 3 Being a god like game don’t remember how broken that was as well..
It was over hyped And that’s what you get for trusting a developer who only had a single hit game.
The hype was deafening in the build up and was definitely a contributing factor in people's disappointment, I agree.
This game was a disaster from start to finish,
your channel is massively underrated dude
Thanks mate, I'm going to keep working at it! More to come!
I was hoping a Half Life 2, but they gave me an E.T. Atari
Could've been a classic. Instead it's just a disaster.
Hmmm... A raising potent channel in here 🦊☕
I hope so!
don't know who you are but this video is pretty good.
EDIT: I love this channel, where are your subscribers dude?
Cheers mate, always good to get feedback.
I worked QA for a company who did QA for MS remotely. Having to communicate with a dev team in a completely different country is very difficult. All you can do is report bugs and hope someone sees it. It's very terrible and inefficient way of testing a game. I think first party didn't get hit by this because they're already signed off on moving consoles home. Third party have to have permission. Not to say this is the direct cause, but hell it didn't help.
Definitely sounds like it didn't help, yeah... Lot of things went wrong here, and a few of them could be down to that lack of communication throughout the company. I wonder if the Dev team were told to put the bug fixing on the back burner entirely before the release.
Either it'll go the way of Hello Games's No Man Sky, or it'll go the way of Bethasda's imfamous Fallout 76.
It can repair and fix it's game into something beyond playable and infact quite awe-inspiring, or add a crap ton of expensive DLC and go work on a new game.
Yep, either possibility is viable at this point in time. Although I assume they'd like to move on from it as soon as possible...
@@JoshuaOnline there are also possibilities that CD project Red would become bankrupt due to the elephant of Bugs Cyberpunk 2077 presented itself.
When The Witcher 3 came out, I was surprised by extremely popular and hyped the game was. Like you said, barely anyone knows The Witcher 1 and 2 despite having sold over 1 million copies each after release. I have already known the game since the first one since my brother played the first game back then. He praises the game a lot too but no one that I know talked about the game. Knowing how great the trilogy was, I have always hoped that CP2077 would be a revolutionary game like they said it would. At the same time, I also thought that they're on a Mission Impossible. Alas, a Mission Impossible it is.
I hope the two friends realise how hard it is to actually make something new. Sure, they have done a lot of things that's new to them but not exactly new to this world. The Witcher video games series were something new for CD Projekt, but RPG games have been in the world for decades. Cyberpunk 2077 however, promises to do things that almost no one have done. Perhaps many have attempted but failed or stopped at the brainstorming session realising how difficult it is. Add that to the fact that CDPR also took a step back with a second thought and continued to give The Witcher full support while they announced a completely brand new game that needed all the time they have that they should have given.
When you have a grand ambition of making a revolutionary video game, please take a deep breath, sit back, relax and remind yourself that Star Citizen exists. Remind yourself of the current state of Star Citizen. It is exactly those ambitions that have been pulling the game back over a decade. New ambitions keep piling on while the old ambitions have yet to be realised or materialised. Even if they're not impossible, budget and time constraints exists. These two are the only thing that makes anything impossible and yet they're also we humans cannot have freely.
I also agree that the dead world is worse than the bugs. I haven't encountered as much bugs as others did in this game. But to me, the disappointment stems largely from how "nothing" the game is. The story is meh, the gameplay is meh, everything is meh. It's just a mediocre game on all fronts. I still had over 100 hours on it during the first week of release and completed all side quests because I wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on anything new introduced by the game. I explored every nook and cranny of the game. I managed to unlock a fast travel point to a place that I've never been to and would've been teleported out otherwise due to a bug. But it's still nothing. There's nothing new. There's nothing revolutionary. The game is pretty much a looter shooter with traffic and pedestrians in it. There's nothing else to be done other than talk, walk and shoot.
The game probably would've done a lot better if it was a simple open world adventure game, with linear paths and highly curated gameplay. Most of the meh-ness of the game came from it trying to not be linear when it really is a linear game, which also brings out all of the glitches and bugs.
wtf u deserve waaaay more subs. anyway... nice vid.
Cheers mate! Trying to get there everyday!
Why does this not have millions of views.
Slowly but surely!
Great video! I counted one hundred and fifty trillion edits made, which is cool. I've seen videos achieve higher numbers, but they usually do so by just throwing in all sorts of random shit that I personally consider a form of assault and should be actionable by law. Not here though, baby! Seriously, this was fantastic and I didn't know any of that about the beginning of CDPR. I'm betting they will know from here on out to keep that hype train under control.
Cheers mate! Yeah the amount of editing was immense but I got it all done! Glad you enjoyed!
@@JoshuaOnline These vids must take a lot of work and it's much appreciated. I'm subbed and got you vids in a playlist for later consumption I look forward to. Good luck, hope your channel blows up!
@@johnnybensonitis7853 I appreciate it greatly mate! More on the way!
@@JoshuaOnline Hell yeah!!!
Good video
Sad video
I haz a sad now ....
We all had a sad.
Great video 👍
Thanks mate! More coming soon!
If Cyberpunk 2077 would be Witcher 3 in Cyberpunk world, with all that cutscenes, same quality of main and side quests, then these videos on YT would not exist. But we have got, what we have got, "Action adventure in city" with less adventure elements, then GTA, and less epic, then average FPS.
The most glaring issues of the game are the non-existent AI and the fact that it's COMPLETELY scripted and on rails with ZERO dynamic events whatsoever and ZERO interactivity within the city. To be honest it's still mind boggling considering they marketed this game as "the next generation of open world adventures"...
Might be one of the biggest cases of promises being made and not being fulfilled by a developer. The world didn't feel quite alive. That was its biggest fault for me personally.
@@JoshuaOnline Same here! Night City is UNBELIEVABLE but there's nothing to do or interact with and the awful, awful AI makes it even worse... such a shame! Still hoping in a redemption arc but it's not looking good.
@@twentytwobeatz I think we're all clinging onto some sort of redemption arc... Perhaps we'll see it for CDPROJEKTRED, but not for Cyberpunk unfortunately...
@@JoshuaOnline We might get lucky, fingers crossed!
The hype i had for this game when it came out, and i still havent finished the game yet
I know mate, it's a shame how it all played out.
@@JoshuaOnline yeah innit just
You deserve more subs
Thanks a lot mate! Let's hope they come in!
I wish I refunded this game. I blame management and Adam Badowski especially.
Yep, management ruined any chance this game may have had
@@JoshuaOnline Actual devs did great with what they were given
@@adampender3685 I'd agree with that yeah
The fact that the first clip is from Detroit of all games has me howling like crazy lmao.
These videos are amazing byou should have 100k subs!?
Thanks mate!
Well done brother
It’s weird, I never got those jet engine sounds on my PS4 playing cyberpunk, but I did get em playing rdr2
Think every PS4 is just different with different games. Nevertheless, for some reason red dead redemption 2 ran pretty well on mine whereas Cyberpunk didn't. Good to know others had a better experience in regards to that aspect though!
@@JoshuaOnline well red dead always ran great, just made my PS4 sound like a Mack truck sometimes, cyberpunk didn’t run nearly as well, but I never got that sound like my PS4 was overworking with it lol weird
@@SayMy_User_Name So strange how it's just different for everyone's PS4s it would seem lol
Good, well informed video. Great job!
Thank you! Still room to improve, more videos on the way!
I still think cyberpunk is a dam good game.
But than again i didnt care nor cream my underware when Keanu came on the xbox stage...
Another great video as always. I haven't played the game myself yet but I do hope they do a 'No man's sky' and manage to deliver the game they promised to fans
Same here... I'd love to see a Cyberpunk Game that got it right
Just to let you know that's basically impossible because unlike no man's Sky they can't just add back all of the game mechanics that were cut since the game itself makes it impossible
@@mariobadia4553 I agree. Unfortunately the game is just missing too many things that can't be patched in. It will always feel like a vague shadow of itself.
a whole ass documentary. stellar stuff.
Always include it all! All or nothing.
Right?! TH-cam is on point for recommending this channel. The A.I. algorithm is getting smart, but maybe when self-awareness kicks in it'll decide that instead of killing everyone it can enslave humanity just as easily by introducing us to some crackin' content!
@@johnnybensonitis7853 that's how it happens my guy
@@WeisgerberCubed I think I got caught up in the fear-mongering lol. I watched Elon on Rogan and I've patiently been waiting for Skynet to activate & go online. Those fuckers got me again, man doh
Sick vid honestly so sad to see gaming company’s not putting in effort anymore it really sucks they just want to leach each dollar off anyone they can
Thank you! And yeah, it really does... Hopefully a few good ones are still out there
Great video
Thanks mate!
Get rekt... CD Project REKT 😂😂😂
9 years? Your wrong it should 14 years they announced that shit back in 2007.
The second they announced KR I knew the game would be trash. Makes sense that the game is on equal level to his acting skills.
Great job on the video. 👏👏👏
Cheers mate! Took a long while to edit this one, so I'm glad it paid off! More to come.
I actually thought Reeves did ok in the role, not the best choice in my opinion though. Imagine if they got an actor on his level of status, but they were more personable, had more range perhaps.
johnny silverBLAND
Brother this Video is Lit
If they had just been honest. That’s all any company has to do. Be honest. If you are releasing a buggy mess, tell us it’s a buggy mess( and probably drop the price a bit). People appreciate honesty from big businesses, it makes them more human
There was more background info than other pieces done by other TH-camr game commentators so nice research. You did fail to mention the refund debacle between CD PR and Sony as CD PR promised refunds without consulting either MS or Sony. MS was more amenable to the Idea wheras Sony took a week or so before pulling the game from their PS store ( a first some have said not sure if thats correct). Myself was never hyped about its release or that interested, I just ate my popcorn watching the shit show unfold. Though I have played video games since pong first came out. With RPG,s being my preferance, I cannont fathom " Gamers" hyping pre-release anything. Placing expectations upon a product before it has been tested examined. Especially with the Corporate mentality that permiates the AA game franchises. Its not the first time such BS has happened either except in this case CD PR promised the moon and delivered a relection in a dirty puddle of the moon. I have Follwed in Detail this whole debacle and the product that was delivered was not what was promised. In fact I would go so far to say that Skyrim has greater depth and replayability , GTA4 has better AI,world building and depth. CD PR was way out of their depth and I suspect knew it after 2 years of developent time and made their own noose which they could not escape. I Appluad NSM team being smaller but no less ambitious they are delivering on their promises. Currently Fdev are facing same Issues with Elite Dangerous and their latest release. Even Star Citizen is creeping towards their extremly ambitious Target goals but they understood fully that development of both the hardware and Game engine needed was for the future afuture we have just entered with the current CPU's and GPU's now avaliable. CD PR could never have built the game they was aiming to make untill now but its too late for them now a reputation takes years to establish and a day to destroy.
That whole refund thing was something I definitely thought of... But completely slipped my mind when I came to write the script. So totally my bad.
The hit CD have taken here is major... I do think a lot rests on their next release. It simply has to be good. And in my opinion, so do the next couple of releases also. Only then will their reputation be somewhat repaired (Cyberpunk remaining as a significant blot on their record).
I do think it was the initial work on the title that led to subsequent failures to achieve what they had set out to do. It should be a warning to other companies and to themselves going forward.
That sucks they started as they did. I don't blame them for cracking and reselling games, but the practice killed aspects of gaming I sorely miss.
It is a morally grey way to start your business, but it must have been a little difficult creating a legit business in Poland at the time!
every criticism of the developer, completely ignores the covid epidemic and the economic consequences. While I'm with you on them on the bugs and the failures. It must also be taken into consideration what was happening.
Exactly right, it's been awhile since I wrote this script but did I mention anything about it? I vaguely remember that they themselves said Covid hadn't really hindered their development.
@@JoshuaOnline i wouldn’t believe that, the entire IT industry was affected negatively by the pandemic. If not the developers certainly the owners and investors that are watching at the time economic dumpster fires artificially being lit all over the globe.
nah, not buying it. COVID certainly had its effects, but wasnt a thing until early 2020 in Europe, so this was at a timepoint the game SHOULD have been come a long way and just polishing/balancing should have been done. As we now know, they crunched hard to make it even run on consoles, so basic work was still being done, actual development and rework after keanu came on board was just 2-3 years. so COVID was certainly partly to blame as well, but also other developers managed to get working games out. This was flawed from the start, certainly.
Very detailed video
Thanks mate
You can compare this to no mans sky
That was a procedurally generated game with a good foundation. They just added on to it.
But Cyber Punk has a systematic problem with its very foundation.
Not something you can just add on to and improve.
They’re better off making a part 2 or completely hitting this game abs basically starting from scratch
It was a stretch to compare the two games, they are ultimately very different situations. Perhaps there were better examples to use. Just wanted to give it some hope 🤣
@@JoshuaOnline good video though lol I was hooked the whole time though lol
@@jermainerucker2027 Thanks mate, means a lot
They went full corpo, you never go full corpo xD
Should've stayed a street kid
I’ve bought this game twice. One for the PS4, one for the Xbox series X. And I played the PC version as I borrowed it from a friend. I can say that the PS4 version was definitely the worst, especially in the first four months. On the Xbox series X, I cannot compare it to it during that time. But I can say as a present, it plays very smooth. I maybe get one crash every three days on it. And very subtle glitches tend to pop up occasionally, like a temporarily invisible weapon. As of present on the PS4, it’s playable for like four hours. After four hours, the ugly scars tend to show their ugly faces once more. Not quite as terrible as it was during the first quarter of release, but shit. It’s been almost a year. And as on for the PC, I played that over the summer. And I can say that the PC version, I never crashed. And I had even more subtle glitches that would pop up rarely, like invisible text caption with dialogue. So, I can say that definitely don’t try to get it currently for the PS4. Even though it’s available on the marketplace, just don’t put yourself through that. I definitely recommend it for either a next generation console or for the PC.
Yeah, it came back on the marketplace recently after this video's release... It's still a problematic game to run on the PS4, although it is getting better slowly. This is to be expected though, I imagine.
Cool vidéo
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed and much more to come!
@@JoshuaOnline you got yourself a new subscriber
@@kyllianpeches2723 appreciate it mate!
interesting commentary so far
What about all the youtubers that promoted the game when they knew it was dog shit?
Yong Yeah, Alanah Pearce & so on. Should be crucifying them as well.
You need more subs
30:21 that bug is STILL in the game!
I dunno about complete story. Have no one heard about a shift in management during the development and change in vision?
12:25 why is Blade Runner called a 'live action movie' ? What is so special about not being an animated movie as to warrant explicit mentioning of 'live action' ?! Why not just call it a movie ? Very nice vid by the way
Honestly I wrote the line a while ago, but I think it was just to highlight the difference in the sources of inspiration CD had when creating this game.
@@JoshuaOnline yeah, sorry, dunno why I commented that super irrelevant tidbit. Was my learning moment of the day I guess and reason of explicitly calling it live-action I think was to highlight the difference with the example right after which was something animated. Anyways, very cool and informative vid, watch it all the way through 👌
@@Rombbb No problem mate! Was a good question about how I used the language in that section! Thanks for watching it all the way through, really appreciate it!
Nice
Thanks!
Just as I predicted in April/May, we have seen no improvements to gameplay, there is no DLC & nothing is on the horizon. The problem is delaying the game a year would've done nothing. It needed 2.5 to 3 years more time and to be an exclusive Xbox Series/PS5/PC. I got my copy in late March for $35 and expected it would eventually get better but that's not going to happen. They've removed all talk of DLC/Multi-player to come and are now saying the next-gen version will probably come out late spring/early summer. They will not get repeat buyers, eg I technically have the Xb1 version and there's no way in hell I pay them another penny. Xbox Series and PS5 are the future so they really need to support that. If they do a good job of that next year, maybe CyberPunk 2087 will be worth giving a try around 2025. Otherwise, I'll never seriously look at one of their games again. Worst triple A bait and switch ever.
It definitely, definitely needed more time... And the support for it since has been lacking. I don't really see it improving all too much. It's all just a massive shame. Might have to do an update video at some point.
Everyone shitting on Cyberpunk, I’m still playing witcher 3
I think we all never stopped playing the Witcher 3, love it
I would still call PS4 and Xbox One the "current" generation, you know... since they're the only ones 99% of the populace can currently access. Just a minor nitpick, but good job. Kinda wondering if they didn't pay the scalpers to pull this, so by the time most regular (read broke) folks like myself could buy a PS5 of Xbox whatever the hell they named it this time; there'd actually be a passable roster of games to pull from? o. O (No I don't have a tinfoil hat folks, it'd cost me too much to build one)
I've expended about all the rage I have over having waited 2 yrs on preorder for my Xbox One copy of this game. (My PS4 broke during such time, so I actually had to choose to switch consoles since I did myself - Xbox did have a better compared library of RPG's at that point I hadn't played, or so I thought) I will say this game is a prime example of reason you should NEVER preorder. Why buy something that's not even done yet, and frankly it's giving them money for essentially free that they can technically run away with. Well played, CD Peeved Right off. (Guess I'm like Wolverine; I'm not quite done yet)
only 140 subs!??!
Thanks for joining (?) I'm assuming! More long vids in the early stages of production because I'm dealing with real life stuff, but eventually, new longer vids will be out!!!
Fraud is a criminal act where deception and lies are used to cause a party to part with value ($) in exchange for something they believe to be as stated. So... CDPR did commit fraud by claiming their console games were up to industry standards (which for a system as old as XBOX 360 was very few crashes and the ability to run at a rock steady 30 FPS).
I am on PC and loved playing the game, the graphical glitches cannot be fixed IMHO as the game engine sux and until they get a better game engine you will always get 2 assets occupying the same space at the same time. But what I cant excuse them for is that they constantly change, nerf and remove exploits, items in loot boxes, etc. as the only thing that does is destroy the players enjoyment of the game and since NO ONE asked to do any of things they did in all their patches, its an insult to every player who bought their game. Watch my video on 1.2 sux and 1.3 sux to see what I am talking about.
Fixing the graphical glitches would be nice, fixing the lack of immersion compared to Witcher 3 would be nice, fixing the AI would be nice, fixing the Cop interactions would be nice, fixing the player's character customization would be nice, making a harder difficulty would be nice, making a new game + would be nice, and making a Co-op and PVP online gaming experience as an option would be nice, but NO ONE asked CDPR to get rid of any exploits, or change the game play, or nerf Netrunner builds, or nerf gun damage, etc. But...what do you expect from a company that lie to you to get $, and react to all the hate that people put on them, I guess they hate on us back.
I guess they're focusing on the wrong areas for the updates, but it's hardly a surprise as they didn't focus in the right areas in production.
Imo exploits that add to the game instead of detracting anything shouldn't be altered, the game already has taken a hit on its player base, why take additional hits by, as you say, fixing things that no one really wanted to be fixed.
We'll have to see if the Fraud issue is resolved in court (or out of it). I'm not sure it has to this day (?)
Thanks for checking out the video mate!
@@JoshuaOnline If you commit fraud you get charged but this is a white collar crime and business owners never get charged with crimes, they only pay $ instead (like a civil suit). If you send someone a bill that is not justified or valid AND...the government hates you, you get charged with the crime of mail fraud, but those in power never do.
Game was pretty meh i did play through it and it was.. sorta enjoyable
My experience with the game too
Hey i'm from the future 😂 its 2023.. and.. its good now
I'm no game developer and I've never so much as written a line of code for anything productive, but why do developers multi-task on various elements of a game like multi-player, city creation, rpg aspects etc etc instead of concentrating on one thing at a time?
Lets say you wanted a game to be a fps like Cyberpunk. Why doesn't every dev at a given company concentrate on how exactly this fps works and how the character moves and feels and fleshes out what a basic character build would be versus an intermediate and so on and so forth.
Then after you have the gameplay concepts down, you focus on how that gameplay is going to be best used and experienced in a given map of a game. thus moving on to the actual Sandbox or "world" of a game.
Perhaps i sound like a complete amateur and i am, but i just never understood why game companies have to have 10 different irons in the fire during development and then slapping em together and hope it all works together with seemingly no communication like i heard with CDPR. it just seems so sloppy.
How developers make games and the process that goes into doing so has always been an interest of mine. Thinking of doing a quick guide with all the different methods of development all the other companies use.
My rather uneducated take on it is that developers have different teams working on a particular element on a game. They work quite close with one another so that everything works together.
I wonder if some companies DO use your model of development. If they do focus on one aspect first before moving on to the next one. I'd be interested to research it when I get the chance.
One thing few have mentioned is that much of the clusterfuck that is Cyberpunk is due to massive diversity hiring. The W3 team vs the CP team is like night and day and the results show. Look at how many people bailed during the making of CP. That should tell you a lot about what was going on behind the scenes. Incompetent people hired to promote an agenda results in shitty programming. The "they took on more than they could handle" is just a cope to spin what went wrong.
Great video. I have to say that maybe people should have read the water mark at the top of that demo, I remember when that came out and people were acting as if that was the final game. On top of that just because some nice guy is in the game I have no idea why that was some sort of guarantee of it being good. At the end of the day a lot of things people are angry about is down to their own exaggerated expectations of Cyberpunk 2077 and blind faith in a company of all things. The game released in an unacceptable state and CDPR got what they deserved but the double standards of so many people is laughable, even Fallout 76, Anthem and all the rest never got this kind of hate and backlash. Personally when it comes to the game I actually love it, but then again I picked it up for practically nothing, after patch 2.0, never took any notice of promises made by people wanting your money, playing on a high end rig with a 3080RTX and modded it from the start to fix a lot of the remaining problems. Frankly the only problems I have had are a few graphical glitches and the odd tiny bug, for me its way more than I ever expected from a company who I had never taken any notice of or played any Witcher game.
Fuck that watermark admit it they scammed us
The main thing causing those double standards is the people's hopes being so high. While there was hype for fallout 76 AND Anthem, players knew the reputation of those companies going into their respective games. (Bethesda is known for bugs on console systems) Most were either unaware or just blind to CDPROJEKTRED'S previous shortcomings with their Witcher games. All that hope built up, hype came with it, expectations were dragged up also, and they were simply shattered upon people playing the game. Plus with the delays people thought they were due to get something good. And they should have got something better than what was presented at launch. But you're right, there are no guarantees.
The fact remains that CD knowingly withdrew any footage of the game running on the older gens of consoles.
I agree though, I loved the game. I hadn't followed the production of the game that closely pre-launch and therefore had little expectations. If I had, I would've been very upset at the promises and deceit used by the company. I went into the video with an open mind, thinking that it could turn out that CDProjekt had an easy to defend reason for their actions, but as the research process went on, I found I couldn't defend it. I could only try to put the point across that this company (although they've created incredibly personal experiences) are not your friends. They will do anything in their power to keep themselves afloat.
Edit: with the unaware and blind thing I'm talking about the new player base CD had appealed to.
Do you play many games? I have a hunch that you dont.
We were promised by CDPR, for 8 years(!), a first person open ended RPG with a countless number of innovative next gen things to look forward too. Who says that? only CDPR. Never have I heard a game company big up their game so much.., but instead were sold a first person linear action adventure game which you can complete in less that 15 hours. How is this "people are angry about is down to their own exaggerated expectations of Cyberpunk 2077 and blind faith in a company of all things"? We were told one thing and sold another mate. We are swindled. CDPR didnt realise they were swindling people, its not scam, just a massively irresponsible company with no real desire to please anyone but themselves. Im not saying the game was shit, it just wasnt what we were told it was going to be.
@@Criddy420 true and yes it is scam bro no matter how much you try to denied it
@@devondre79 nah not denying it, just my opinion but perhaps you right. Maybe the joke of game we got was intentional..
they couldn't make a game in 8 years with all the money and hype in the world how can they make a good game now? would they need 20-30 years to make a game? done when ready like Star citizen? CDPR screams of incompetence and greed. The lead ques designer left almost all side quests unfinished and called them "open ended" as form of art decision. CDPR wasted time on including journalists and youtubers like Alana Pierce. And now the game is one big pile of trash CDPR is one big pile of thrash they leaked data lied to us to investors and getting sued
This game got nominated for 2 best music and best RPG at game awards it might be a redemption arc for them if they win and get better but thank god it didnt get GOTY though
True, it definitely didn't deserve GOTY! I do appreciate that some aspects of the game were very good though! Like music as you said.
To be honest, Cyberpunk winning awards for this trojan horse of a game points to how bad games have become, how deceptive marketing is accepted by the industry, and how corrupt the "review" system is.
Look at how many professional reviewers heaped praise on the broken mess that the game was at release...
Cyberpunk 2077 winning awards is an indictment of the entire industry.
Cyberpunk 2077 is overhyped 👎 we expect skyrim quality but we got mass effect andromeda instead. The damage to cd project red is huge 🙁
I prefer TLOU2 over this game clearly, you might disagree but i could give 2craps about that
Fair enough, though I probably prefer TLOU2 also... It's actually difficult for me to choose between the two now that I think about it.
666 lol
Eyyy You're the first one (that i know of) to spot that!
Internet Historan will do it better
Possibly. Still a work in progress. Keep commenting.
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@@henrycrabs3497 that's it. Thanks mate👍
@author: IwiNski, not Iwiski you morron!
Didn't you hear? He died of ligma!
it's a great game period. face it
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lol sure buddy
People still complaining??.. get a 3080/3090 and it’s amazing. Played through on first release, no obvious bugs and graphics is amazing.
And you still flexing around with your top end gaming rig CDPR bribed to you to play?
@@adlibbed2138 they didn’t bribe me. I work and I got paid.
@@HanLi1984 you're only brought up more problems to the gaming industy down on the line if you making excuses like this regardless, when even The Godfather on PS2 has functional police system then your so called "Next Generation of Open World Adventure"
@@adlibbed2138 nope. This game is fantastic, looks beautiful, plays awesome, it’s indeed demanding. I have nothing to do with godfather 2.
What I said is simple, if you want to truly enjoy cyberpunk2077, buy the best PC.
A lot of bugs happen with lower FPS, or on a busy CPU, you should know about that.
This is a great game, the flaws are it’s not ready for low end. End of story.
@@HanLi1984 whatever floats your boat, but my point still stands that if you put whoever the next "pro consumer" companies you like upon the pedestal like (previously) this company was, you're only beget some more problems within the gaming industy
Great video