luntz a dingus but i feel compelled to defend his shoes. I wouldn't wear them, but let the man live, he was clearly trying to say that his life is a cesspool of sadness and the shoes lift his spirits but Bill wouldn't let him finish.
That was a pretty good conversation. I'll have more of that, please. And by the way, Reagan did leave office in 1988 with a 63% approval rating, but his average for that year was 53%.
and the tragedy in it all is that the only guy that actully looked to have some morals and obey the facts aka bernie.. only served to make it show how rigged a system were coeprations runs rampart becomes :/
Luntz is an asshole liar that juggles words for profit. He's just like every witch hunting, double standard Republican. More than twenty five years of bullshit lies started by Starr and funded by Richard Melon Scaife and every time the clowns have come up empty. Either they are the most inept bunch of idiots that stepped into the political ring or they are just pathetic money wasting pathological liars with a political agenda.
There's not much strange about that. I generally prefer my own opinion to other peoples as well. For most of us, it's only because we it makes it easier to live in a community that we compromise at all.
You really can't win as a dissenting guest on Real Time. Any time Maher gets cornered he just makes some facetious jab and rides a wave of applause to safety.
Luntz schooled the hell out of Maher in this interview. Maher and his cheering audience continue to apologize for the Democratic Party. I get the feeling that they will all be in for a very rude awakening in November.
Frank Luntz?....wow.... My oh my....I....like this man. Smart- sharp and to the point. "Darling Bill" always wants to be right......now Bill this time you got your match.
Frank : "These are tuff times." Bill : "Idk what you mean." Frank : "No shit you're a 60 YO millionaire with no clue whats going on in the real world." Bill: "Frankly i don't give a damn."
The only problem is when he pointed out FACTS about Hillary being a deceptive Liar who was investigated by the FBI for it Bill's only response was "Oh please". Like it doesn't matter at all. Seriously? You don't care that Hillary is a lying war monger who played with classified information and then lied about it?
I have always been a fan of Bill Maher. I have much respect for him. I DO WANT TO SAY, that this Frank Luntz is a very smart guy. I think Frank should be on the show much more. Really smart guy with some very interesting points
“Laziness is a trait in blacks.” (Trump, 1991) “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” (Trump, 1991) “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that... I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.’’ (Trump, 1989) He "Loves you people"... here is a link to many more. gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925
Dude, just have your bullshit radar on. Trump can't open his mouth without bullshitting. Keep that radar on for Hillary, too, and YOU judge which one is the one that is full of shit. I am betting that you will see that she has solid programs she wants to initiate, and that they are well thought out. Just go with that in mind. Then make up your mind. If you want a functioning government, go with Trump if you think he is capable of that. I think that he does not. He is hip shooting everything and has NO idea what he would actually DO.
That was an interesting dialogue to say the least. It's a bit scary thinking that a great country of 320 million has been reduced down to a choice between who Hillary and Trump is a lesser of two evils.
***** That is exactly why we have to go with Trump. Media created the circus and lies about Trump. Its all to promote Hillary Clinton. The media is so biased it's not funny.
+BM Trump created his own shit-storm by sticking his foot in his mouth every step of the way. The media has every right to jump all over him for the stupid shit that he says. Just like they have the right to jump all over Hillary for being negligent with classified emails, being too hawkish and being a terrible excuse for a democrat. Trump supporters chalk every criticism of Trump up as media bias, but you fail to realize that the media criticizes Hillary too; even in left-leaning media outlets like The Huffington Post, Mother Jones, etc. But the difference is you don't hear people on the left crying about it.
Yeah he got his doctorate, he knows people will cheer if he says Bernie. meantime, he helps wallstreet execs deal with pesky vagrants: www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/republicans-being-taught-talk-occupy-wall-street-133707949.html (sorry it is a yahoo link..)
The more I opt to listen to Mr. Frank Lutz. The more favorable opinion I have. Mr. Lutz unlike most pollsters has tapped into the mindset of voters. Mr. Lutz sees the bigger picture inspite of an orchestrated personal attack by Mr. Maher.
He doesn't like her. He's said so. He compared a potential Hillary Clinton presidency to getting a shot at the doctor. He's only "for" her because she's the lesser of two evils.
I actually agree with what Frank said.... the US wants to see a third party candidate. I also think its funny how much of the rest of the conversation was wasted on the tired Democrat vs Republican fight. The two party system is an out of date generic label people are told they need to fit into. We divide a nation in two and tell everyone that other side is wrong on everything by picking the wrong side and we wonder what is wrong. We are divided and told to ignore the other persons perspective that is what is wrong. We need to update the version of our political program. IMHO True or false, either or, positive or negative is an oversimplification that is an outdated way of thinking and looking at things. We need to stop thinking binary and start thinking quantum.
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You havent been paying attention to the way things are run if you seriously think a 3rd party has a chance. We all know Bernie should have won and it was rigged.
Perhaps you need to re-adjust your periscope a little. We are playing long ball. The reason third parties don't win or even register is because we won't invest in them because they can't win. So voting third party is an investment in the future of our government. Stop thinking in direct wins and losses and start thinking in where you want to move this country. I'm voting jill stein this election, can she win ? Hell no. But can it push the party and start the break up of the 2 party system ? Hell yea.
He is simply going by the historical evidence. No third party candidate has ever had a chance at being elected. The rules are stacked against them. Stacked against them by both the Republicans and the Democrats, neither of which wants to see a valid third party arise because it might be enough like their own party to split the votes and hand the elections to the other party. If Bernie had run as a third party candidate a Trump victory would be guaranteed, because Bernie and Hillary would split the Democratic vote, while Trump would still get all of the Republican votes. Just look back at the other cases of third party candidates whose votes, added to the party who they most looked like (and this is primarily Democrats) would have led to a win rather than a loss. In recent history both Ross Perot and Ralph Nader could have been spoilers. Nader in 2000, had all his votes gone to Gore, might have changed the course of what was a very close run and legally contested race. Perot in 1992 got 18.9% of the popular vote, adding those to Bush, Sr. may have swung the election away from Clinton. It would have certainly given him a strong lead in the popular vote, although I don't have the state by state figures to know if it would have changed the electoral vote count. The reason the Tea Party has been so very successful is because it has remained a movement within the Republican party, and has not tried to split away to become a third party. If it did so, the Tea Party and the Republican party would split the right wing votes and the Democrats would win more elections.
I agree with your guest , Bill. And I resent being called ignorant. The American people are smarter than you think. We are smart enough not to vote for either of the presumptive nominees. Your reversal on Bernie makes me sick.
each party has their 'pollsters'. they don't do what you think they do. people who work at newspapers and universities do that (and don't appear on TV)
that would be a biased, politically motivated poll, but does that excuse them from calling him a Muslim? I think not. you don't get to pretend someone's not what they are just cuz you don't like sharing that with them. it's either bigotry or wishful thinking (wishing that the world was simply broken up into good and evil)
I know Bill Maher isn't a reporter or a political commentator but he's a commentator in comedy and it's good we have Bill Maher. I may not agree with everything he says Maher has more guts than most reporters in the media and we need him more than ever!
He "sold out" when Bernie lost. It's over, he lost, get over it. What, do you want him to keep backing Bernie and split the Democratic vote even more, because that will surely get Trump elected. Think before you speak please.
He's going to actually make progress unlike these career politicians. He's going to clean up Washington and actually make America first. He's going to hit China hard on trade for their constant manipulation on their currency. He's going to place tariffs on imported goods from China, Korea, Japan and Mexico. He's going to cut spending on overseas policing of countries we shouldn't be in. He's going to cut taxes across the board including a no income tax to the lowest tax bracket. He's getting rid of Obamacare and Common Core. He's going to reform the VA system. He's going to make Veterans and our Military a priority unlike Hillary who's indifferent to the chaos that's going on with the VA and doesn't make our Veterans a priority. He's not going to waste our tax dollars on climate change, he's also not going to go on a wreckless spending spree like Obama has in the last 7 years by hiking up Health care costs, increasing Food Stamps, making bad trade deals and giving money away to countries overseas every time a disaster strikes that has nothing to do with us.
+Blue Velvet and why not help out another country who is in need when we have the capability and even if you didn't want to do it for no reason then at least the country that you helped is a little bit more in debt to you
Reading between the lines Luntz only wants Sanders to run as a third party candidate and fracture the vote like 2000, not because of any admiration for his policies.
My favorite part of that interview was when Frank Luntz attempted to devalue Bill Maher's comments by claiming that 79% of statistics are made up on the spot only one minute after trying to belittle Bill Maher's point by arguing that Reagan did have 61% approval rating over Obama's 50%. He was trying to win an argument by setting up a double standard. Lol, wish Bill caught that one.
Their sycophantic pavlovian behavior at every snarky and sarcastic comment Maher makes is indeed sad and pathetic. But if you think about it, this is why its impossible for a guy like Bill Maher to ever be open minded about opposing points of view. He literally has a weekly audience stroking his ego and cheering everything he says, and then booing everything a non-liberal says.
How is Maher a liberal? Hillary is a neocon and he obviously is jizzing all over her. Maher is a conservative twat who is under the impression he's still relevant.
He doesn't have a weekly audience, it's literally daily. Every time he posts on social media, they jack him off. Every time he goes out to do an event, they jack him off. Every time he meets his friends, they jack him off. Every time he goes out for a walk and someone recognizes him, they jack him off. He's a text book case of a narcissist and every one around him enables him.
Reagan's approval ratings when he left office might have been 61%, but his average was 52.8. George W. Bush did better at 62.2. The highest average approval rating for a modern President was Lyndon Johnson, who had an average rating of 74.2. Next is John F. Kennedy, with 70.1.
***** Surprising, huh? But that's an average. Johnson's lowest ratings came in August of 1968, after he had announced he would not run for re-election, after the absolute rout of the Tet Offensive, around the same time Hubert Humphrey was nominated for President by the DNC, and The Chicago Riots. Only three months later, Johnson would retire from politics, and Richard Nixon was elected 37th President of the US.
Wow, this is the REAL TIME official channel and people are talking mad shit on Bill. And I say... GOOD! He was so in the wrong on this debate, Lutz was being factual and Bill couldn't hear the other side's point due to deafening righteous indignation.
Bill was talking here to the American Josef Goebbels, the man who manufactures propaganda phrases and words. Anything that came out of Luntz's mouth, if you agreed with it, then you should stop and analyze what emotional chains the man was yanking, Because he ONLY uses phrases that are intended to get a knee-jerk reaction out of you, instead of actual mental thinking. THAT IS WHAT THE SICKO CREEP DOES. So, if you agree with him, YOU HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED.
I enjoy Bill's show, but I have to side with his guest. I think Bernie should have stuck by his principles, and this country will be better and safer, without Hillary in the White House
Yea and its pathetic that Bern had to run with the Dems because he wouldn't stand a chance. WTF America, why do they have to be one of those party members. To hell with Republicrats.
+Bobs Black His real intent has become evident after he concedes. He has managed to push the Democratic platform way to the left, more so than would have been the case had he not participated. He even earned key concessions from the establishment, such as appointing a hand full of progressives to the DNC platform. He has vowed to continue to encourage people to get involved in the political process. He's not going anywhere. In fact, I believe he's paving the way for an unprecedented grass roots movement, by way of the left.
You realize this guy Luntz is a professional propagandist right? He came on with the purpose of dividing Democrats and sowing disillusionment among the show's more naive viewers. He didn't believe anything he said about Sanders.
+Bobs Black Hillary is a consummate liar. Type Hillary Clinton lying into TH-cam and you can watch the flip flopping show begin. Anyone who believes her isn't using their mental faculties. Where are her transcripts from her speeches she promised to release??? Exactly. Stop being gullible. Use your brain...
Yes they are, but weird how he didn't articulate how most Americans are disillusioned with how the whole system is set up to benefit corporation owners and the wealthy, (and the existant corruption therein).
He doesnt give a shit about working class people, he is just jerking off drumpf, who uses the poorly educated as con marks. Working class people are the same people who watch jerry springer and reality tv and think pro wrestling is real, so drumpf easily fools them. You can care about working class people and still call them idiots.
wiremessiah That is the most horrible and inaccurate description of working class people ever and you should be ashamed of yourself for typing that shit out in display for everyone to see.
Kurt Costigan you are making an emotional argument rather than a logical one. You are profoundly naive and have no understanding of the real world. So you simply try to shoot the messenger and shame me for telling it like it is. How pathetic.
Watching for first time in 2021.. mr luntz was more persuasive..Maher was too defensive and attention seeking. Btw..I’m a huge liberal..but listen to luntz
+Darryl Edington Donald Trump has won half the electorate to his side up to this point running from the right. Now, he will be running as a moderate. How many more voters he will win to his side after today is anyone's guess. Say your prayers, Dembot....
Look at all the racists who knock Trump for the complexion of his skin and hair. What if we changed those orange jokes into black jokes about somebody else.
Just as in Orwell''s 1984, Double Speak is strong with the Liberals. They are so liberal yet constantly call Trump "Orange" as if the color of his skin matters dehumanizing him and talking about how he looks as if that somehow make you liberal. Hypocritical nut jobs the Democrats have become. Absolute maniacs!
Jeremy S. both your comments were marked as spam, more than likely by some libtard. I restored them. Libtards always like to stifle other people's speech.
Jnr Chi Not true. Luntz doesn't make my skin crawl because he has a different point of view. He makes my skin crawl because he's so skillful at using the power of words to get people to harm themselves. For example: calling the estate tax the "death tax." The estate tax applies only to the super-rich, so that when they die, they can't leave all their money to their heirs, thereby avoiding a corrupting oligarchy/plutocracy. So, Luntz changes one word, and all of a sudden Ma and Pa Kettle think it affects them, and vote against it, when those monies would have helped maintain the infrastructure and social services they rely on to help them have a comfortable life. Luntz is an evil bastard with no regard for the damaging effects of his "genius." THAT's what makes my skin crawl.
+Jnr Chi You fucker, you people do this all the time. STOP saying we hate someone because they have a different opinion. We hate him because of his antics not opinion.
rhaven50 I don't think I said that you did. I said that Bill's view is accurate. I didn't say anything about your view at all. You said Bill has tunnel vision--that implies it's not accurate. I say it is completely accurate.
Yes Bernie should run s a third party and split the vote and hand Trump the Presidency. Nice try Frank. Frank knows Trump will lose, admitting so at the end and wants to make it seem like he's all for Bernie.
I think Maher hit the nail on the head when he said this country was ignorant. Luntz took that as Maher demonizing the low, working class... Sorry, this country is full of ignorant people who think Obama rhymes with Osama so Obama is a Muslim, or that a 3-day old human resurrection is a legitimate thing or a worldwide flood was a historical event in antiquity, or that stem cell research is the work of the devil, or that cops are our enemy, or that Stalin's/Mao's communism is the same as democratic socialism. Our education in math/sciences is one of the lowest in 1st world counties. Our infant mortality rate is one of the lowest on 1st world countries. I could keep going as to all the evidence that points to this country as being ignorant and, equally, apathetic to itself and the world. The discussion ended right there for me. The second Luntz got offended for the "ignorant janitor or cameraman" I knew he was a quack and hard a hard time comprehending what Maher was saying. And he kept coming back to this idea that we need to stop being so divisive and come together. Of course we do. That's not a point anyone is arguing. But we can't come together if we don't understand each other or our politics. This country relies on an informed and involved citizenry and every statistic/poll out there shows that this country doesn't know jack shit about itself or the outside world.
+John Baggett ignorance is also blaming all your problems on invisible forces that "exist" to thwart you. Ignorance is non stop talk about assault rifles and the second ammendment when that ammendment gives you the right to bear arms but isn't actually about the right to bear arms (and I hear so many people who debate this issue raise this fact without actually dwelling on its implications). Ignorance is thinking that somehow a 2 party system can some how address the wide needs/ideologies of about 350,000,000 different people (my country has a tenth of that and we have far more political parties). So yes, America has a lot of ignorance and it's amply spread across the whole political spectrum. You disagree and you're probably one of the people we are talking about. That's the thing about ignorance, it's not a left or a right thing and it's not even an American thing (Maher seems to think Europe is some liberal heaven LOL, just another tray in the ignorance buffet) it's just part of the human condition. We, humanity, have always relied on an exceptional few to drag us towards a better future.....because the mass of us are ignorant beings. and yes, I am ignorant too, why else would I have wasted my time on this when I know any ignorant person will disagree and automatically disregard? the intelligent people don't need to be told, and hey certainly don't rely on entertainment programs for their primary source of informarion
+John Baggett you equate a lack of education with ignorance it seems. I would have to ask, have you gone to university? If so, how did you miss all the ignorance? because few places have more ignorance than a university campus.
Bill shoulda listened to what he had to say.
them shoes fire
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luntz a dingus but i feel compelled to defend his shoes. I wouldn't wear them, but let the man live, he was clearly trying to say that his life is a cesspool of sadness and the shoes lift his spirits but Bill wouldn't let him finish.
I hope he finds your comment man!
For real, had to scroll this far to get some sneaker love
He was spot on about Hilary
That was a pretty good conversation. I'll have more of that, please. And by the way, Reagan did leave office in 1988 with a 63% approval rating, but his average for that year was 53%.
He does have a point, bill will say something stupid and the audience will cheer and not even know what the truth is
Frank Luntz is really a great American, we need more like him..............
I would LOVE to see them do a full hour. Two brilliant people on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
Bill running away from the Clinton scandal 😑
How is he running away? There's a choice between her and Trump and guess who Bill will never in a million years vote for.
and the tragedy in it all is that the only guy that actully looked to have some morals and obey the facts aka bernie.. only served to make it show how rigged a system were coeprations runs rampart becomes :/
Which one?
Luntz is an asshole liar that juggles words for profit. He's just like every witch hunting, double standard Republican. More than twenty five years of bullshit lies started by Starr and funded by Richard Melon Scaife and every time the clowns have come up empty. Either they are the most inept bunch of idiots that stepped into the political ring or they are just pathetic money wasting pathological liars with a political agenda.
Bill Rice
places a bet on the later..and laments its cancer like nature
4:10 He's right; I just checked the Gallup poll - in 1986, Reagan's approval rating was 68%
did you just pick a random year? the argument was about their approval ratings in their last term.
Sharif El Neklawy en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating#Historical_comparison
At first I thought, hey, what's so bad about wearing crazy shoes, but then he started to speak!
Billy boy really doesn't like anyone's opinion but his.
There's not much strange about that. I generally prefer my own opinion to other peoples as well.
For most of us, it's only because we it makes it easier to live in a community that we compromise at all.
He's just an asshole, and you can't fix assholes.
gumcanston really doesn't like anyone having an opinion that doesn't agree with his opinion.
For example, you can't be fixed.
evelynjoyce And what was my opinion?
You really can't win as a dissenting guest on Real Time. Any time Maher gets cornered he just makes some facetious jab and rides a wave of applause to safety.
Luntz schooled the hell out of Maher in this interview. Maher and his cheering audience continue to apologize for the Democratic Party. I get the feeling that they will all be in for a very rude awakening in November.
You called it
Frank Luntz?....wow....
My oh my....I....like this man.
Smart- sharp and to the point.
"Darling Bill" always wants to be right......now Bill this time you got your match.
Frank : "These are tuff times."
Bill : "Idk what you mean."
Frank : "No shit you're a 60 YO millionaire with no clue whats going on in the real world."
Bill: "Frankly i don't give a damn."
Right, I am sure this guy knows what tuff times are all about.
Frank was using a straw man argument, Bill knew it and didn't take that shit.
The only problem is when he pointed out FACTS about Hillary being a deceptive Liar who was investigated by the FBI for it Bill's only response was "Oh please". Like it doesn't matter at all. Seriously? You don't care that Hillary is a lying war monger who played with classified information and then lied about it?
Triangulove your premises are bullshit. That's like me asking when did you stop beating your wife.
wiremessiah
What are you talking about? It makes zero sense and has no relation to the conversation.
I have always been a fan of Bill Maher. I have much respect for him. I DO WANT TO SAY, that this Frank Luntz is a very smart guy.
I think Frank should be on the show much more. Really smart guy with some very interesting points
Wow, Bill Maher got his butt handed to him by Frank Luntz
Very true I'm blk and working class and probably vote for Trump ....debates will determine my final vote
“Laziness is a trait in blacks.” (Trump, 1991)
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” (Trump, 1991)
“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that... I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.’’ (Trump, 1989)
He "Loves you people"... here is a link to many more.
gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925
Dude, just have your bullshit radar on. Trump can't open his mouth without bullshitting. Keep that radar on for Hillary, too, and YOU judge which one is the one that is full of shit.
I am betting that you will see that she has solid programs she wants to initiate, and that they are well thought out.
Just go with that in mind. Then make up your mind.
If you want a functioning government, go with Trump if you think he is capable of that. I think that he does not. He is hip shooting everything and has NO idea what he would actually DO.
That was an interesting dialogue to say the least. It's a bit scary thinking that a great country of 320 million has been reduced down to a choice between who Hillary and Trump is a lesser of two evils.
***** That is exactly why we have to go with Trump. Media created the circus and lies about Trump. Its all to promote Hillary Clinton. The media is so biased it's not funny.
that's why CNN became a 24/7 Trump advertising media.
+BM Trump created his own shit-storm by sticking his foot in his mouth every step of the way. The media has every right to jump all over him for the stupid shit that he says. Just like they have the right to jump all over Hillary for being negligent with classified emails, being too hawkish and being a terrible excuse for a democrat. Trump supporters chalk every criticism of Trump up as media bias, but you fail to realize that the media criticizes Hillary too; even in left-leaning media outlets like The Huffington Post, Mother Jones, etc. But the difference is you don't hear people on the left crying about it.
That's not necessarily true. We had Bernie. What's embarrassing is the constituency who don't know any better... That's the true embarrassment.
But is n't it the people that voted to make Clinton and Trump the nominees?
Bill Maher was brutal to that guy. And clearly the guy was right
Bill Maher got schooled here.
Maher is a realist and tells it like it is. Carry on Bill your message must eventually get thro'
I like this guy lutz
Lol and.. who the hell cares......
You're cool imo. It's spelled Luntz though.
I didn't know software program bots could like things.
evelynjoyce
Of course. A "software program bots" as you say can now do everything humans do! Haven't you learned that at your union meeting?
Yeah he got his doctorate, he knows people will cheer if he says Bernie. meantime, he helps wallstreet execs deal with pesky vagrants: www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/republicans-being-taught-talk-occupy-wall-street-133707949.html (sorry it is a yahoo link..)
Long Live Bill!
The more I opt to listen to Mr. Frank Lutz. The more favorable opinion I have. Mr. Lutz unlike most pollsters has tapped into the mindset of voters. Mr. Lutz sees the bigger picture inspite of an orchestrated personal attack by Mr. Maher.
I hope Luntz does Bill's show regularly. I like watching Bill Maher having his ass handed to him.
I'm not a fan of Frank either, but he owned the shit out of Maher and put him on the defensive. Not easy.
He didnt do it in fair way, just spin & comedian insults
Wow the first guest I've seen with Maher take it to him. Nicely done Frank.
Wow that was an interesting interview. Have never seen Bill Maher struggling so much.
Lesson learned from Maher in arguing, interrupt your opponent every two seconds so they cannot get a word out.
Sorry Billy bong love ya but you need to see the light on Hillary Clinton
Right I can't believe some people on the left are still defending her they obviously did not watch the interview of James Comey.
Yet, still better than trump.
He doesn't like her. He's said so. He compared a potential Hillary Clinton presidency to getting a shot at the doctor. He's only "for" her because she's the lesser of two evils.
No she isn't. Go third party
EKGSEPT71 Third party is Trump, don't be such a fool.
No matter what bill says he is still a GREAT debater....you rock!
"I'm not gonna sit and insult this country" ... "Well I will!" Awesome
Thank You Frank Lutz
I actually agree with what Frank said.... the US wants to see a third party candidate. I also think its funny how much of the rest of the conversation was wasted on the tired Democrat vs Republican fight. The two party system is an out of date generic label people are told they need to fit into. We divide a nation in two and tell everyone that other side is wrong on everything by picking the wrong side and we wonder what is wrong. We are divided and told to ignore the other persons perspective that is what is wrong. We need to update the version of our political program. IMHO True or false, either or, positive or negative is an oversimplification that is an outdated way of thinking and looking at things. We need to stop thinking binary and start thinking quantum.
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Bill Maher thinks third party doesnt have a chance? Not with attitudes like that we wont.
No, he is looking at history. It is like saying the Washington Generals don't have a chance against the Globetrotters.
this revolution will continue on. we will get our country back!
You havent been paying attention to the way things are run if you seriously think a 3rd party has a chance. We all know Bernie should have won and it was rigged.
Perhaps you need to re-adjust your periscope a little. We are playing long ball. The reason third parties don't win or even register is because we won't invest in them because they can't win. So voting third party is an investment in the future of our government. Stop thinking in direct wins and losses and start thinking in where you want to move this country. I'm voting jill stein this election, can she win ? Hell no. But can it push the party and start the break up of the 2 party system ? Hell yea.
He is simply going by the historical evidence. No third party candidate has ever had a chance at being elected. The rules are stacked against them. Stacked against them by both the Republicans and the Democrats, neither of which wants to see a valid third party arise because it might be enough like their own party to split the votes and hand the elections to the other party.
If Bernie had run as a third party candidate a Trump victory would be guaranteed, because Bernie and Hillary would split the Democratic vote, while Trump would still get all of the Republican votes. Just look back at the other cases of third party candidates whose votes, added to the party who they most looked like (and this is primarily Democrats) would have led to a win rather than a loss.
In recent history both Ross Perot and Ralph Nader could have been spoilers. Nader in 2000, had all his votes gone to Gore, might have changed the course of what was a very close run and legally contested race. Perot in 1992 got 18.9% of the popular vote, adding those to Bush, Sr. may have swung the election away from Clinton. It would have certainly given him a strong lead in the popular vote, although I don't have the state by state figures to know if it would have changed the electoral vote count.
The reason the Tea Party has been so very successful is because it has remained a movement within the Republican party, and has not tried to split away to become a third party. If it did so, the Tea Party and the Republican party would split the right wing votes and the Democrats would win more elections.
I agree with your guest , Bill. And I resent being called ignorant. The American people are smarter than you think. We are smart enough not to vote for either of the presumptive nominees. Your reversal on Bernie makes me sick.
Now that was a tense interview.
Bill needs to lay off the cheap shots in a more serious interview like that. Luntz handled it well at came out looking the better of the two.
Frank right is right when he said Bernie should have gotten the 2016 democratic nomination.
Can't believe Bill is so establishment.
he has hundreds of thousands on the line to be fair.
If Frank Caliendo had a baby with Caliendo's Trump character, it would be Frank Luntz.
Frank is right here. Bill needs to concede when he's been proven incorrect by Facts!
I like his shoes.....
I like when Maher is losing all he does is interrupt with snark and not counter arguments. Talk about being on the defensive.
Great argument. They definitely did not hold back. Almost became hostile and awkward. But they kept on track.
This shit was heated
Great banter. This is what makes Real Time so great! Bravo!
Amazing that Luntz has made a career as a pollster when he's so overtly political.
each party has their 'pollsters'. they don't do what you think they do. people who work at newspapers and universities do that (and don't appear on TV)
that would be a biased, politically motivated poll, but does that excuse them from calling him a Muslim?
I think not. you don't get to pretend someone's not what they are just cuz you don't like sharing that with them. it's either bigotry or wishful thinking (wishing that the world was simply broken up into good and evil)
I know Bill Maher isn't a reporter or a political commentator but he's a commentator in comedy and it's good we have Bill Maher. I may not agree with everything he says Maher has more guts than most reporters in the media and we need him more than ever!
when did maher sellout? i thought he was for sanders
He did it a while back when he refused to give him any money or hardly talk about him in the primaries.
The moment he knew Sanders was fucked with all the poll fixing. He wants to back a a winning horse and he doesn't want Trump elected.
Bill Maher is just one of those people who votes for anything with a D behind it in then the voting office.
+Godless Libertarian you obviously don't know shit because for a while he was flirting with Rand Paul.
He "sold out" when Bernie lost. It's over, he lost, get over it. What, do you want him to keep backing Bernie and split the Democratic vote even more, because that will surely get Trump elected. Think before you speak please.
I'm massively to the left of Bill Maher, but seriously Frank Luntz comes out best here.
Wish more people felt the way frank feels. ....on both sides of the spectrum
I liked those shoes. They would have gone better with jeans, and a causal t-shirt or Polo. That was a really crazy interview
I really like this guy........he is telling the fact!!!
Judging by your sentence, I wouldn't trust you to know a fact if it slapped you in your brainwashed-conservative face
This Democrat is voting for Trump
What policies of his do you think will help this nation? Be specific.
He's going to actually make progress unlike these career politicians. He's going to clean up Washington and actually make America first. He's going to hit China hard on trade for their constant manipulation on their currency. He's going to place tariffs on imported goods from China, Korea, Japan and Mexico. He's going to cut spending on overseas policing of countries we shouldn't be in. He's going to cut taxes across the board including a no income tax to the lowest tax bracket. He's getting rid of Obamacare and Common Core. He's going to reform the VA system. He's going to make Veterans and our Military a priority unlike Hillary who's indifferent to the chaos that's going on with the VA and doesn't make our Veterans a priority. He's not going to waste our tax dollars on climate change, he's also not going to go on a wreckless spending spree like Obama has in the last 7 years by hiking up Health care costs, increasing Food Stamps, making bad trade deals and giving money away to countries overseas every time a disaster strikes that has nothing to do with us.
+Blue Velvet you do know that climate change is real right?
+Blue Velvet and why not help out another country who is in need when we have the capability and even if you didn't want to do it for no reason then at least the country that you helped is a little bit more in debt to you
because it puts us in more debt
Fast Forward to today.................Wow
Reading between the lines Luntz only wants Sanders to run as a third party candidate and fracture the vote like 2000, not because of any admiration for his policies.
WHAT ARE THOSE! Frank stole those shoes from the Greek god Hermes. Remember the animated Hercules movie? Hermes had winged shoes just like those LMFAO
My favorite part of that interview was when Frank Luntz attempted to devalue Bill Maher's comments by claiming that 79% of statistics are made up on the spot only one minute after trying to belittle Bill Maher's point by arguing that Reagan did have 61% approval rating over Obama's 50%.
He was trying to win an argument by setting up a double standard. Lol, wish Bill caught that one.
The clapping seals of Maher's audience is pathetic.
Their sycophantic pavlovian behavior at every snarky and sarcastic comment Maher makes is indeed sad and pathetic. But if you think about it, this is why its impossible for a guy like Bill Maher to ever be open minded about opposing points of view. He literally has a weekly audience stroking his ego and cheering everything he says, and then booing everything a non-liberal says.
How is Maher a liberal? Hillary is a neocon and he obviously is jizzing all over her. Maher is a conservative twat who is under the impression he's still relevant.
He doesn't have a weekly audience, it's literally daily. Every time he posts on social media, they jack him off. Every time he goes out to do an event, they jack him off. Every time he meets his friends, they jack him off. Every time he goes out for a walk and someone recognizes him, they jack him off. He's a text book case of a narcissist and every one around him enables him.
Reagan's approval ratings when he left office might have been 61%, but his average was 52.8. George W. Bush did better at 62.2. The highest average approval rating for a modern President was Lyndon Johnson, who had an average rating of 74.2. Next is John F. Kennedy, with 70.1.
***** Surprising, huh? But that's an average. Johnson's lowest ratings came in August of 1968, after he had announced he would not run for re-election, after the absolute rout of the Tet Offensive, around the same time Hubert Humphrey was nominated for President by the DNC, and The Chicago Riots. Only three months later, Johnson would retire from politics, and Richard Nixon was elected 37th President of the US.
Bill, he said that no prosecutor would take the case, but he also said there is clear criminal negligence.
Is there some sort of club I can join where our only mission and purpose is to talk about how much we hate his audience???
Go Bill.
I think Bill was just having a bad day here. Seems a little more difficult to talk to than usual. Hey, it happens to everyone from time to time.
What are the rules? No flinging your poop!!!! whuaauhauhauauhahuahauhauauaa
Wow, this is the REAL TIME official channel and people are talking mad shit on Bill. And I say... GOOD! He was so in the wrong on this debate, Lutz was being factual and Bill couldn't hear the other side's point due to deafening righteous indignation.
Bill was talking here to the American Josef Goebbels, the man who manufactures propaganda phrases and words.
Anything that came out of Luntz's mouth, if you agreed with it, then you should stop and analyze what emotional chains the man was yanking, Because he ONLY uses phrases that are intended to get a knee-jerk reaction out of you, instead of actual mental thinking.
THAT IS WHAT THE SICKO CREEP DOES.
So, if you agree with him, YOU HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED.
With that guy, it's the shoes. With me at 65 years old, it's the butt-length ponytail. We all need something. And yes, it should have been Bernie.
Never liked Frank. Bill got him.
It's not what you say, it's what people hear.
I enjoy Bill's show, but I have to side with his guest. I think Bernie should have stuck by his principles, and this country will be better and safer, without Hillary in the White House
Yeah well he lost tho. Thems the breaks.
Yea and its pathetic that Bern had to run with the Dems because he wouldn't stand a chance.
WTF America, why do they have to be one of those party members. To hell with Republicrats.
+Bobs Black His real intent has become evident after he concedes. He has managed to push the Democratic platform way to the left, more so than would have been the case had he not participated. He even earned key concessions from the establishment, such as appointing a hand full of progressives to the DNC platform. He has vowed to continue to encourage people to get involved in the political process. He's not going anywhere. In fact, I believe he's paving the way for an unprecedented grass roots movement, by way of the left.
You realize this guy Luntz is a professional propagandist right? He came on with the purpose of dividing Democrats and sowing disillusionment among the show's more naive viewers. He didn't believe anything he said about Sanders.
+Bobs Black
Hillary is a consummate liar.
Type Hillary Clinton lying into TH-cam and you can watch the flip flopping show begin. Anyone who believes her isn't using their mental faculties.
Where are her transcripts from her speeches she promised to release???
Exactly. Stop being gullible.
Use your brain...
Maher is a talented speaker.
I don't necessarily agree with most of what he says but, wow, he sure is a sharp cookie.
He is right in that normal working class traditional liberals are disillusioned with where the left is right now.
Yes they are, but weird how he didn't articulate how most Americans are disillusioned with how the whole system is set up to benefit corporation owners and the wealthy, (and the existant corruption therein).
Motionedout With that in mind we can answer his question as to why everything is divisive.
He doesnt give a shit about working class people, he is just jerking off drumpf, who uses the poorly educated as con marks. Working class people are the same people who watch jerry springer and reality tv and think pro wrestling is real, so drumpf easily fools them. You can care about working class people and still call them idiots.
wiremessiah That is the most horrible and inaccurate description of working class people ever and you should be ashamed of yourself for typing that shit out in display for everyone to see.
Kurt Costigan you are making an emotional argument rather than a logical one. You are profoundly naive and have no understanding of the real world. So you simply try to shoot the messenger and shame me for telling it like it is. How pathetic.
Love Bill, generally agree with him. Frank's right.
the beginning stuff. :)
Watching for first time in 2021.. mr luntz was more persuasive..Maher was too defensive and attention seeking. Btw..I’m a huge liberal..but listen to luntz
that's not how you treat a guest.
Bill, let him get out a sentence. Or don't have him on the show.
The shoes demonstrate the level of Luntz's thought process.
Maher got rekt. Let's be honest. He got completely owned.
If Bernie ran as a 3rd party, he would've never been in a debate.
Yes, Bernie people, keep dividing the Democratic party because if you do that, I'll win. #BernieorBust should keep doing what there doing.
*they're
I wish I could follow your youtube comments. Seriously though.
85% of Bernie voters have already said they will vote for Hillary.
+Darryl Edington Donald Trump has won half the electorate to his side up to this point running from the right.
Now, he will be running as a moderate. How many more voters he will win to his side after today is anyone's guess.
Say your prayers, Dembot....
Rockinghorse Winner
He just nominated an arch conservative who is rabidly anti-gay and anti-choice as a VP. How is he running as a moderate?
Sure I don't want to win, but my followers sure as hell want me to win.
Bill doesn't like it when he gets it back. Poor baby.
Look at all the racists who knock Trump for the complexion of his skin and hair.
What if we changed those orange jokes into black jokes about somebody else.
Are you that stupid?
Just as in Orwell''s 1984, Double Speak is strong with the Liberals. They are so liberal yet constantly call Trump "Orange" as if the color of his skin matters dehumanizing him and talking about how he looks as if that somehow make you liberal. Hypocritical nut jobs the Democrats have become. Absolute maniacs!
jimmi izzy -- Drumpf's hair and skin color are not natural or innate hence, not racism.
suvariboy DERR You said Drumpf! DERP DE DERP You talked about his skin. DERRRRRR Great Liberal talking points.
Jeremy S. both your comments were marked as spam, more than likely by some libtard. I restored them.
Libtards always like to stifle other people's speech.
Luntz makes my skin crawl. If only he would use his formidable PR powers for niceness, instead of evil.
but anyone one with a different point of view form you would make your skin crawl
Jnr Chi Not true. Luntz doesn't make my skin crawl because he has a different point of view. He makes my skin crawl because he's so skillful at using the power of words to get people to harm themselves. For example: calling the estate tax the "death tax." The estate tax applies only to the super-rich, so that when they die, they can't leave all their money to their heirs, thereby avoiding a corrupting oligarchy/plutocracy. So, Luntz changes one word, and all of a sudden Ma and Pa Kettle think it affects them, and vote against it, when those monies would have helped maintain the infrastructure and social services they rely on to help them have a comfortable life. Luntz is an evil bastard with no regard for the damaging effects of his "genius." THAT's what makes my skin crawl.
+Jnr Chi
You fucker, you people do this all the time. STOP saying we hate someone because they have a different opinion. We hate him because of his antics not opinion.
Bill got burned on this one :)
This conversation tugged me back in forth on who I wanna agree with.
I feel bad for the dude being interviewed, but around the last half, it became so obvious that he's just full of it lol!!!
In retrospect...... ?
Wow....you don't see an interview like this every day!
bill has such a hate for trump that he has tunnel vision. sad.
His view of Trump is completely accurate.
D Mc did I say it didn't. My statement stands.
rhaven50
It didn't what?
D Mc used a wrong word. I never stated that is view wasn't accurate.
rhaven50
I don't think I said that you did. I said that Bill's view is accurate. I didn't say anything about your view at all. You said Bill has tunnel vision--that implies it's not accurate. I say it is completely accurate.
This was a great detbate, they both were great
Yes Bernie should run s a third party and split the vote and hand Trump the Presidency. Nice try Frank. Frank knows Trump will lose, admitting so at the end and wants to make it seem like he's all for Bernie.
Huge Maher fan. The Lutz guy definitely came out with more credibility tho
I think Maher hit the nail on the head when he said this country was ignorant. Luntz took that as Maher demonizing the low, working class... Sorry, this country is full of ignorant people who think Obama rhymes with Osama so Obama is a Muslim, or that a 3-day old human resurrection is a legitimate thing or a worldwide flood was a historical event in antiquity, or that stem cell research is the work of the devil, or that cops are our enemy, or that Stalin's/Mao's communism is the same as democratic socialism. Our education in math/sciences is one of the lowest in 1st world counties. Our infant mortality rate is one of the lowest on 1st world countries.
I could keep going as to all the evidence that points to this country as being ignorant and, equally, apathetic to itself and the world. The discussion ended right there for me. The second Luntz got offended for the "ignorant janitor or cameraman" I knew he was a quack and hard a hard time comprehending what Maher was saying.
And he kept coming back to this idea that we need to stop being so divisive and come together. Of course we do. That's not a point anyone is arguing. But we can't come together if we don't understand each other or our politics. This country relies on an informed and involved citizenry and every statistic/poll out there shows that this country doesn't know jack shit about itself or the outside world.
+John Baggett ignorance is also blaming all your problems on invisible forces that "exist" to thwart you. Ignorance is non stop talk about assault rifles and the second ammendment when that ammendment gives you the right to bear arms but isn't actually about the right to bear arms (and I hear so many people who debate this issue raise this fact without actually dwelling on its implications). Ignorance is thinking that somehow a 2 party system can some how address the wide needs/ideologies of about 350,000,000 different people (my country has a tenth of that and we have far more political parties). So yes, America has a lot of ignorance and it's amply spread across the whole political spectrum. You disagree and you're probably one of the people we are talking about. That's the thing about ignorance, it's not a left or a right thing and it's not even an American thing (Maher seems to think Europe is some liberal heaven LOL, just another tray in the ignorance buffet) it's just part of the human condition. We, humanity, have always relied on an exceptional few to drag us towards a better future.....because the mass of us are ignorant beings. and yes, I am ignorant too, why else would I have wasted my time on this when I know any ignorant person will disagree and automatically disregard? the intelligent people don't need to be told, and hey certainly don't rely on entertainment programs for their primary source of informarion
+John Baggett you equate a lack of education with ignorance it seems. I would have to ask, have you gone to university? If so, how did you miss all the ignorance? because few places have more ignorance than a university campus.
agreed, he obviously does not have a PhD due to his fashion sense so listen to what he says Bill Maher and stop trying to talk over him.
More than his own state of mind, Luntz's schizophrenic choice in shoewear is a commentary on the state of politics in America !
Loved it!
Ignorant isn't a bad word. It means unknowing
best real time interview in a good few years
Don't let your hubris make you a bad champion for your cause Mr. Maher.
Reagan's approval rating was 41% when he left office. His average approval rating was 53% for eight years.
Nice to see a first guest interview that isn't a fluff piece / love-in.