I'm English. I live in England. But I saw this, and I was wise to it. People told their state pension would be terminated the day after a YES vote ? That crashed straight through " disgusting " into " vomitous ". I was angered, and I still am, at the massive manipulation. Though it's not worth a damn, I shall be cheering indyref2 from the sidelines.
I'm Scottish and I live in England. I Thank You, for Your refreshing common sense. I dont like the SNP but I want Scotland to be Indepednent. It would be good for England as we would be competing against each other and making each other better.
Thank you, Dr David. Excellent work. You based in Scotland yet? We need talented and influential people in Scotland. Must say, I liked that mobile ad truck with the Daily Record 'The Lie' emblazoned across it - that is one powerful message to be towed-around Scotland. I would eagerly help to fund that message, would make me feel I'm somehow making a difference, that MY voice was being heard. It's a start.
Thanks for the kind comments :) I am based in Scotland until early November, then returning to South Africa to complete the research for the eventual book.
Well put together but having lived through it I'm afraid it just depressed me. I continue to wonder how the First Minister coped so well with the unmitigated ordure to which he was subjected and continues to be subjected by certain journalists in certain newspapers - or at least they call themselves such. I am assuming that many newspapers will be losing circulation in Scotland and hell mend them.
Thanks. I'm just amazed we got 45% in the face of all this. If anything good came out the indyref it has exposed the establishment media machine and we can learn from that. You're right, press circulation figures are falling. Will be interesting to see how future figures play out post indyref www.allmediascotland.com/press/61604/the-media-in-figures-scots-circulations-of-national-newspapers-2/
Those of us who knocked on doors were well aware of this, with the questions that we were asked time & time again. The distortions & blatant untruths were hard to take at times. For me the worst thing was the bias exhibited by that 'bastion of veracity the BBC! It didn't even attempt to exercise its declared policy of balance & neutrality. I have given up my TV, therefore no longer pay a licence fee to listen to obfuscation & lies direct or by omission! BBC now means, as far as I am concerned, Bullingdon Betrayal Clique.
NOTES ON THE RESEARCH BY DR DAVID PATRICK: When headlines from front pages, editorials and comment pieces were analysed for evidence of Pro-Union/Pro-Independence framing, it was discovered that whilst 976 (61.8%) headlines showed no obvious bias towards either side, those headlines which did display some form of bias showed that for every headline which framed Scottish independence positively, there were 4.3 articles which were against independence. When the main body of the text was analysed in depth, 763 (48.4%) were neutral in their coverage, with those remaining articles showing evidence of clear bias weighted 3-to-1 in favour of a pro-Union/anti-Independence position. Indeed, when looking at both front-page headlines and their accompanying articles, it is discovered that there is not a single title which framed the debate in Pro-Union terms less often than they framed the debate with a pro-Independence bias. Expressed in a different manner, only 6% of headlines could be interpreted as pro-Independence, in comparison with 47.1% which framed the debate in favour of a pro-Union position. Whilst it an almost identical proportion (46.8%) of headlines showed no obvious bias towards either side, it remains the case that an individual walking past a newsstand in the period analysed would be presented to a pro-Union headline almost half the time. A total of 386 editorials were produced in the six months analysed, the most prolific in this regard being The Daily Express (69) and The Daily Mail (65), though it is worth noting that neither of these titles contained a single editorial which could be constructed as being pro-Independence (or anti-Union). Coincidentally, the two titles which published the fewest editorials related to independence - The Daily Telegraph (10) and The Times (13) - also did not contain any editorials which were pro-Independence. In total, 822 such pieces were produced by the eight selected titles across the six months analysed. Taken as a whole, 412 were neutral, with 180 (21.9%) being pro-Independence and 330 (40.1%) being pro-Union. For example, whilst The Sun printed a similar number of comment articles which demonstrated a pro-Union (24) or pro-independence bias (20) - with exactly 50% (44) being quantified as neutral - numerical distinctions within each title showed more evident variation. The Daily Express, for example, out of a total of 101 comment pieces produced only 3 (2.9%) that could be regarded as pro-Independence, whilst publishing 60 (59.4%) which demonstrated clear bias towards a pro-Union stance. Across the entire project, the headlines of various front-page, editorial and comment pieces contained 362 occasions where an individual was named. Of these 362, a remarkable 207 were in reference to First Minister, Alex Salmond - accounting for 57.2% of all occasions where someone’s name was in the headline of the article. This was more prominent in some titles than in others, with The Herald (the title which did this the least) citing the FM in 33.3% of all headlines that contained a name; compared to 88.9% in The Daily Express and 76% in the Daily Telegraph. The second most-cited individual in this respect was David Cameron who, being mentioned in 38 titles, accounted for 10.5% of all names used; whilst Nicola Sturgeon (8) and Alistair Darling (7) - respective leaders of the “Yes Scotland” and “Better Together” campaigns - together only managed inclusion in 4.14% of headlines. Whilst a fair degree of press focus showed no sign of ideological (constitutional) bias, those articles which did frame the debate in terms favourable to either position showed a clear proportional weighting to the pro-Union side. With the exception of The Sun, this was more apparent in those titles whose main readership is in the rest of the UK, with some showing a level of bias (particularly in editorial and comment pieces) that arguably amounted to a campaign. Another key finding of this research was the observation that Alex Salmond’s name was used in more than 55% of headlines that contained a person’s name. Given his position as First Minister and his integral role within the “Yes” campaign, his inclusion in a number of headlines is hardly surprising; however, a focus on Alex Salmond to the degree highlighted here demonstrates a continuance of the oft-mentioned belief that a vote for independence was a vote for the First Minister, and by extension the SNP. DR DAVID PATRICK, UNIVERSITY FREE STATE SOUTH AFRICA Twitter Contact:@DrDavidPatrick
@@davidpatrick5327 an amazing video. I had the absolute pleasure of spending some time with you at the Glasgow airport (Steven) where I think I have now found an interest in politics thanks to you. My wife absolutely loved this documentary (and her gift).
@@munkonthehill That's very kind of you to say, big fella. And thanks again for helping to keep me sane through my stint in quarantine - made a big difference, mate. And mind take the kids to New Lanark - I reckon they'll find a lot to enjoy :)
@@davidpatrick5327 The pleasure was all mine mate, getting to chat with you and get to know you made the shifts bearable. You are easily one of life’s good guys and I wish you and your wife a lifetime of happiness. Hope we can keep in contact man stevenmorris79@hotmail.com
Newspaper ownership seems to be all about political influence rather than profit now, so falling sales unfortunately won't make much difference. I suspect many will continue to publish even when loss-making. As you say, it's the 'passive influence' that probably has the most effect. The front pages are the equivalent of a billboard campaign. Even if many people are aware that newspapers are biased, there is still a constant drip-drip effect on the public, especially if there is no opposing voice on the newsstands. The Telegraph was one of the most blatantly biased, and was prominent at the till of every WH Smith in Scotland, due to the bottle of water promotion. Customers couldn't even avoid their headlines if they tried.
RE GUARDIAN INDYREF COVERAGE. 'OLD BATTLE' kindly posted this breakdown of The Guardian's coverage on Bella Caledonia: October 7, 2014 • 22:07
From Mediawatch dog in The Guardian comments page Right everyone, here’s TheGuardian’s daily balanced/impartial coverage about Scotland’s referendum? Papers can pick and chose news, print them for us to read and use it as source of information and there’s no harm to say what we think of them. Thank you very much for reading. COVERAGE FOR NO SIDE OF CAMPAIGN -The SNP have become Scotland’s Pollyannas -All eyes on Rupert Murdoch over the Sun’s Scottish independence stance -Banks say: we’ll leave Scotland if the independence vote is a yes -BP urges Scotland to vote against independence -Carney: massive shortfall in currency reserves for independent Scotland -Poll boost for Scottish no campaign as party leaders make plea to voters -Scottish independence would be disastrous for all UK, warns John Major -Scottish independence could create mortgage drought -Would Scottish independence unleash a British art identity crisis? -Scottish independence ‘Yes’ vote could affect bid to host Euro 2020 games -John Major is right on independence: there’s much to fear from a yes vote -How Salmond came top in Scotland’s competitive fear-mongering -Alex Salmond accused of hypocrisy by former Scottish Tory leader -Steve Bell’s If … on Alex Salmond and his old pal Rupert Murdoch -Rupert Murdoch hints at support for Scottish independence -Scottish independence: David Cameron in impassioned plea for Scotland to stay -Cameron: referendum is not just a chance to ‘give the effing Tories a kick’ -David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg unite to urge Scots to vote no -Scottish independence: David Cameron would be ‘heartbroken if family of nations’ breaks up - -Scottish independence: ‘from the head, from the heart, from the soul - vote no’, says Miliband - -Orange Order plans ‘loud, proud’ pro-union parade in Edinburgh -Scottish independence: Party leaders take high road to Scotland to avert yes vote -Scottish referendum: UK parties fast-track new tax and welfare powers -Could an independent Scotland keep the BBC? No campaigners say an independent Scotland could lose BBC programmes such as Strictly Come Dancing -Salmond frames independence fight as ‘Team Scotland v Team Westminster’ -Why class trumps nationality in the Scottish independence debate I have more in common with the normal people of England than I do with the wealthy people of Scotland - that’s why I’m voting no -Scottish Labour activists told ‘nothing as important as stopping UK breakup’ -How independent should Scottish writing be? Not surprisingly, many authors have been writing about the referendum, but this political approach to their work has problematic implications COVERAGE FOR YES CAMPAIGN -Scottish independence: PM’s visit is ‘last gasp of desperation’, says Alex Salmond - video -Scottish independence: no campaign has fallen apart, says Alex Salmond - video -Scottish independence: no campaign has fallen apart, says Alex Salmond - video Impartial (if you call it) -Scottish referendum: Mumsnet hosts final showdown before vote -Scotland’s referendum is Britain’s reinvention Whatever happens, we all share these islands - the independence vote will force us to write a new story -How would an independent Scotland compare to other nations? -A week on the Scottish referendum campaign trail - in pictures -If Scotland votes for independence: the key questions answered -Scotland independence referendum: what’s the mood around Scotland? -Scottish independence: which businesses are in the yes or no camp? -The Scottish independence debate has given politicians what they say they want - engagement -A yes vote in Scotland will bring big change to UK civil service -Close adviser to Ed Miliband calls for creation of an English Labour party -Scotland v England friendly debate: football will overshadow politics -Steve Bell on the Scottish independence referendum - cartoon I think coverage speaks for itself. Highlighted section shows negativity attached to the campaign on both sides. Proportion: ----For No campaign: ----Yes campaign:---- Impartial ------------30----- ------- 3 ---------12--- Remember, this referendum is also a test for our media and institutes impartiality and long term aftereffects on perceptions of people of Scotland and rUK…. If the G was 30-3 what about the others??? Reply ↓
I think the Guardian's main problem is its Scottish correspondent, who seems to be obsessively against the independence movement. He's retained his post for years so obviously management wants this line. Without him, the Guardian figures may have been more balanced. The real puzzle is why the Guardian is simultaneously friendly and interested re. the parallel Catalan independence movement, though post-referendum I guess there has been a tightening of that position too. Can't confirm as I've stopped following the Guardian.
For the twenty years preceding 2007 I read literally every newspaper available in England every day (it was to do with my job -- I'm not that hard up for entertainment). Since then, I have not read a single paper. As I have not watched any television for over thirty years (out of choice) my only sources of news are BBC radio, which is IMO on a slippery slope to disaster, and the internet. The point of all this is that I am constantly astonished at the vituperative and vicious comments made in the comments sections of various TH-cam and other channels, which comments are, as far as I can judge, totally unwarranted, and can only have been derived from television and newspaper coverage, or from the commentors' imagination. The facts as gleaned by me from the few sources that provide them are at odds with the media coverage as reported here.
One paper you didn't touch was the Guardian - a world on its own. Was it the only UK paper to declare openly for No instead of just rubbishing independence? That shows it took the issue seriously, but on the other hand, it seems so unexpected that it could do with a look from someone with knowledge. Why? David?
Hi Joyce, a few reasons for this including cost, not actually decidedly different in editorial slant anyways, print circulation is only around 10,000. Dr Patrick can explain reasons if you want to get in touch @DrDavidPatrick
Hi, Joyce. I think I had a message from you on Twitter earlier, but it seems to have simply vanished from my feed! Please tweet me again, and I'd be happy to discuss :)
Your a brainwashed fecked up Rangers fan, probably in the orange lodge too I'm TRULY DELIGHTED RANGERS LOST TO FRANKFURT 🏴🏴🏴🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺 And I'm a st mirren fan People like you are nasty Your Scotland's shame
Seriously I'm interested, I have long believed anyone that states they are British and proud have been completely brainwashed by the establishment, I have numerous examples of how this occurs but first I would like to ask a question. I understand we are all products of our upbringing, but what are you actually proud of being British of, is it the British African Slave Trade or the millions that have been killed in Uganda, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Somalia, Australia, Canada, or the millions that died during the Bengal famine where they invented the concentration camps, in fact not many Countries around the globe have escaped the British wrath, the most recent being Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria does this mass murder of innocence trigger some sort of genocide fetish perhaps?? Or is it the Westminster Parliament who have committed crimes that include Murder, Illegal War, War Crimes, Terrorism, Torture, Crimes against Humanity, Corruption, Espionage, Treason, Drug Trafficking, Paedophilia, Rape, Indecent Assault, Sex Trafficking, Arson, Blackmail, GBH, Bribery, Insider Trading, Cash for Questions, Asset Stripping, Tax Evasion, Money Laundering, Expenses Fraud, Theft, Perjury, Phone Hacking, Spousal Assault, Perverting the Course of Justice, Cover Ups, Cash for Honours, Conspiracy and Forgery. It can't be all the British institutes like British Steel, BP, British Aerospace, Cable & Wireless, National Freight Corporation, Britoil, Associated British Ports, Enterprise Oil, Jaguar, British Telecommunications, British Shipbuilders, British Gas, British Airways, Rolls-Royce, BAA, British Steel, Water, Electricity they no longer exist as they have been shut down or sold off. It can't be British Democracy, there ain't any with more unelected Lords than any other Country in the world bar China, an unelected hereditary monarch who only gained their position through Rape, Pillage, Plunder and Murder, within this system we have a 2 party state.. It can't be the title "British" as it doesn't exist "Britain" is a name for three countries - Scotland, England and Wales. As you can be born in only ONE country, not three, you are either Scottish, English or Welsh. Many of my points stem from centuries ago to the present day, but let's look at the British government's achievements today The UK has the 2nd highest childcare costs in the world. The UK has the highest level of obesity in Western Europe. The UK has the second-largest debt (per capita) in the world. The UK is the most expensive place in the world to run a car. The UK has the most expensive energy costs in Europe. The UK has been named the most corrupt country in the world. The UK is home to the largest concentration of nuclear weapons in Europe. Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the largest structural deficit in Europe. Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the greatest concentration of land ownership in the world. Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the largest PFI bill (per capita) in the world. Job satisfaction levels in the UK as the fourth poorest in the developed world. The UK is home to the highest aviation tax in the world. The UK has the longest detention period in the world where an individual can be held without charge for 28 days 16 days longer than Australia, second on the list. The UK government is under investigation by the United Nations for breaches of Human Rights. The UK is under investigation for the selling of arms to Saudi Arabia. The UK is the sixth most unequal country in the world. Inequality in the UK has grown faster than in any other country since 1970. The UK has earned the title of worst place to live in Europe following a study which assessed the quality of life and came second-last in the previous year. The UK has the highest fuel taxes in Europe. In the last six years, the UK has sold weapons to 24 of the 27 states included on its own list of countries of humanitarian concern. Wages in the UK have fallen by 10.4% since 2007 a performance matched only by poverty-stricken Greece. The UK is the fourth most undemocratic country in the developed world. The UK has the second-largest unelected chamber in the world. The UK has the second-lowest number of female judges in Europe (right behind Azerbaijan). Britons have 5.5 fewer work holidays a year than the European average. The UK has the second-longest working hours in Europe. The UK provides the second-lowest state pension in the OECD (with only Mexico offering its citizens less). The UK has the third highest level of inequality in the developed world. The number of zero-hours contracts in the UK has skyrocketed by 21% compared to last year. House building in the UK is the lowest since 1923. The UK's military capacity has been reduced to its lowest level since the Napoleonic wars. The UK government have presided over more deaths of disabled citizens than the Nazis. UK homes have the smallest living space in Europe. The UK is the third most warmongering country in the world. The UK, with more CCTV cameras (per head of population) than anywhere else, is the most watched country in the world. In the UK, more than half of new businesses collapse with the UK tax system, a lack of bank lending and the cost of running a business all cited as reasons for failure. The UK has one of the most complicated tax systems in the world with 10,042 pages of legislation (as of 2010) and an additional 500 pages of new tax law are created each year this also makes administration far less cost-effective with the Institute of Economic Affairs concluding that the annual operating costs of the British tax system were more than 11bn in 2012. House prices in Britain are around 30pc too high, according to a study published by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation & Development. The UK has the most expensive rents in Europe ( 350 P/M more than the EU average). Female mortality rates in the UK are the second poorest in Western Europe. The UK has the second largest involvement in Panama's tax haven. Property tax in the UK is the most complex in the world. So what is it you are so proud of? www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/boris-johnson-says-we-shouldnt-edit-our-past-but-britain-has-been-lying-about-it-for-decades/ar-BB15ztjR?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR1VTHolq7-8mNhghU_-_F_EMabIBVsbtRYx_YFGz2Nl8sbjVEtMNjJ_GSM th-cam.com/video/TpsA4zMtB8M/w-d-xo.html
I'm English. I live in England.
But I saw this, and I was wise to it.
People told their state pension would be terminated the day after a YES vote ?
That crashed straight through " disgusting " into " vomitous ". I was angered, and I still am, at the massive manipulation. Though it's not worth a damn, I shall be cheering indyref2 from the sidelines.
I'm Scottish and I live in England. I Thank You, for Your refreshing common sense. I dont like the SNP but I want Scotland to be Indepednent. It would be good for England as we would be competing against each other and making each other better.
This is so true, it's what most of knew instinctively but thankfully many of us didn't let it affect our decision. Thank you
Absolute essential viewing to understand the power of the media & how the 'inform' opinion rather than report 'news'
Thank you, Dr David. Excellent work.
You based in Scotland yet? We need talented and influential people in Scotland.
Must say, I liked that mobile ad truck with the Daily Record 'The Lie' emblazoned across it - that is one powerful message to be towed-around Scotland. I would eagerly help to fund that message, would make me feel I'm somehow making a difference, that MY voice was being heard. It's a start.
Thanks for the kind comments :) I am based in Scotland until early November, then returning to South Africa to complete the research for the eventual book.
Well put together but having lived through it I'm afraid it just depressed me.
I continue to wonder how the First Minister coped so well with the unmitigated ordure to which he was subjected and continues to be subjected by certain journalists in certain newspapers - or at least they call themselves such.
I am assuming that many newspapers will be losing circulation in Scotland and hell mend them.
Thanks. I'm just amazed we got 45% in the face of all this. If anything good came out the indyref it has exposed the establishment media machine and we can learn from that.
You're right, press circulation figures are falling. Will be interesting to see how future figures play out post indyref
www.allmediascotland.com/press/61604/the-media-in-figures-scots-circulations-of-national-newspapers-2/
Those of us who knocked on doors were well aware of this, with the questions that we were asked time & time again. The distortions & blatant untruths were hard to take at times. For me the worst thing was the bias exhibited by that 'bastion of veracity the BBC! It didn't even attempt to exercise its declared policy of balance & neutrality. I have given up my TV, therefore no longer pay a licence fee to listen to obfuscation & lies direct or by omission! BBC now means, as far as I am concerned, Bullingdon Betrayal Clique.
I now don't buy any so called newspaper and never will again. I get my news online from places that I feel are more balanced.
What’s worse is they’ve literally just admitted to it all
Well done Dave, I think its a really well thout out presentation and excellent research! Very informative... I now see issue behind the public media
NOTES ON THE RESEARCH BY DR DAVID PATRICK:
When headlines from front pages, editorials and comment pieces were analysed for evidence of Pro-Union/Pro-Independence framing, it was discovered that whilst 976 (61.8%) headlines showed no obvious bias towards either side, those headlines which did display some form of bias showed that for every headline which framed Scottish independence positively, there were 4.3 articles which were against independence.
When the main body of the text was analysed in depth, 763 (48.4%) were neutral in their coverage, with those remaining articles showing evidence of clear bias weighted 3-to-1 in favour of a pro-Union/anti-Independence position.
Indeed, when looking at both front-page headlines and their accompanying articles, it is discovered that there is not a single title which framed the debate in Pro-Union terms less often than they framed the debate with a pro-Independence bias.
Expressed in a different manner, only 6% of headlines could be interpreted as pro-Independence, in comparison with 47.1% which framed the debate in favour of a pro-Union position. Whilst it an almost identical proportion (46.8%) of headlines showed no obvious bias towards either side, it remains the case that an individual walking past a newsstand in the period analysed would be presented to a pro-Union headline almost half the time.
A total of 386 editorials were produced in the six months analysed, the most prolific in this regard being The Daily Express (69) and The Daily Mail (65), though it is worth noting that neither of these titles contained a single editorial which could be constructed as being pro-Independence (or anti-Union).
Coincidentally, the two titles which published the fewest editorials related to independence - The Daily Telegraph (10) and The Times (13) - also did not contain any editorials which were pro-Independence.
In total, 822 such pieces were produced by the eight selected titles across the six months analysed. Taken as a whole, 412 were neutral, with 180 (21.9%) being pro-Independence and 330 (40.1%) being pro-Union.
For example, whilst The Sun printed a similar number of comment articles which demonstrated a pro-Union (24) or pro-independence bias (20) - with exactly 50% (44) being quantified as neutral - numerical distinctions within each title showed more evident variation. The Daily Express, for example, out of a total of 101 comment pieces produced only 3 (2.9%) that could be regarded as pro-Independence, whilst publishing 60 (59.4%) which demonstrated clear bias towards a pro-Union stance.
Across the entire project, the headlines of various front-page, editorial and comment pieces contained 362 occasions where an individual was named. Of these 362, a remarkable 207 were in reference to First Minister, Alex Salmond - accounting for 57.2% of all occasions where someone’s name was in the headline of the article.
This was more prominent in some titles than in others, with The Herald (the title which did this the least) citing the FM in 33.3% of all headlines that contained a name; compared to 88.9% in The Daily Express and 76% in the Daily Telegraph.
The second most-cited individual in this respect was David Cameron who, being mentioned in 38 titles, accounted for 10.5% of all names used; whilst Nicola Sturgeon (8) and Alistair Darling (7) - respective leaders of the “Yes Scotland” and “Better Together” campaigns - together only managed inclusion in 4.14% of headlines.
Whilst a fair degree of press focus showed no sign of ideological (constitutional) bias, those articles which did frame the debate in terms favourable to either position showed a clear proportional weighting to the pro-Union side. With the exception of The Sun, this was more apparent in those titles whose main readership is in the rest of the UK, with some showing a level of bias (particularly in editorial and comment pieces) that arguably amounted to a campaign.
Another key finding of this research was the observation that Alex Salmond’s name was used in more than 55% of headlines that contained a person’s name. Given his position as First Minister and his integral role within the “Yes” campaign, his inclusion in a number of headlines is hardly surprising; however, a focus on Alex Salmond to the degree highlighted here demonstrates a continuance of the oft-mentioned belief that a vote for independence was a vote for the First Minister, and by extension the SNP.
DR DAVID PATRICK, UNIVERSITY FREE STATE SOUTH AFRICA
Twitter Contact:@DrDavidPatrick
Awesome documentary, thanks for sharing.
Cheers, Neil. Share with No's if you can.
Well done Dave great report
Thanks, Robbie. Means a lot :)
@@davidpatrick5327 an amazing video. I had the absolute pleasure of spending some time with you at the Glasgow airport (Steven) where I think I have now found an interest in politics thanks to you. My wife absolutely loved this documentary (and her gift).
@@munkonthehill That's very kind of you to say, big fella. And thanks again for helping to keep me sane through my stint in quarantine - made a big difference, mate.
And mind take the kids to New Lanark - I reckon they'll find a lot to enjoy :)
@@davidpatrick5327 The pleasure was all mine mate, getting to chat with you and get to know you made the shifts bearable. You are easily one of life’s good guys and I wish you and your wife a lifetime of happiness.
Hope we can keep in contact man stevenmorris79@hotmail.com
Newspaper ownership seems to be all about political influence rather than profit now, so falling sales unfortunately won't make much difference. I suspect many will continue to publish even when loss-making.
As you say, it's the 'passive influence' that probably has the most effect.
The front pages are the equivalent of a billboard campaign.
Even if many people are aware that newspapers are biased, there is still a constant drip-drip effect on the public, especially if there is no opposing voice on the newsstands.
The Telegraph was one of the most blatantly biased, and was prominent at the till of every WH Smith in Scotland, due to the bottle of water promotion. Customers couldn't even avoid their headlines if they tried.
Sorry should have added thanks for the in depth review!
just shows the power newspapers/media can use when they don't like something.most of the uk media is tory run so no surprises on that one
RE GUARDIAN INDYREF COVERAGE.
'OLD BATTLE' kindly posted this breakdown of The Guardian's coverage on Bella Caledonia:
October 7, 2014 • 22:07
From Mediawatch dog in The Guardian comments page
Right everyone, here’s TheGuardian’s daily balanced/impartial coverage about Scotland’s referendum? Papers can pick and chose news, print them for us to read and use it as source of information and there’s no harm to say what we think of them. Thank you very much for reading.
COVERAGE FOR NO SIDE OF CAMPAIGN
-The SNP have become Scotland’s Pollyannas
-All eyes on Rupert Murdoch over the Sun’s Scottish independence stance
-Banks say: we’ll leave Scotland if the independence vote is a yes
-BP urges Scotland to vote against independence
-Carney: massive shortfall in currency reserves for independent Scotland
-Poll boost for Scottish no campaign as party leaders make plea to voters
-Scottish independence would be disastrous for all UK, warns John Major
-Scottish independence could create mortgage drought
-Would Scottish independence unleash a British art identity crisis?
-Scottish independence ‘Yes’ vote could affect bid to host Euro 2020 games
-John Major is right on independence: there’s much to fear from a yes vote
-How Salmond came top in Scotland’s competitive fear-mongering
-Alex Salmond accused of hypocrisy by former Scottish Tory leader
-Steve Bell’s If … on Alex Salmond and his old pal Rupert Murdoch
-Rupert Murdoch hints at support for Scottish independence
-Scottish independence: David Cameron in impassioned plea for Scotland to stay
-Cameron: referendum is not just a chance to ‘give the effing Tories a kick’
-David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg unite to urge Scots to vote no
-Scottish independence: David Cameron would be ‘heartbroken if family of nations’ breaks up -
-Scottish independence: ‘from the head, from the heart, from the soul - vote no’, says Miliband -
-Orange Order plans ‘loud, proud’ pro-union parade in Edinburgh
-Scottish independence: Party leaders take high road to Scotland to avert yes vote
-Scottish referendum: UK parties fast-track new tax and welfare powers
-Could an independent Scotland keep the BBC?
No campaigners say an independent Scotland could lose BBC programmes such as Strictly Come Dancing
-Salmond frames independence fight as ‘Team Scotland v Team Westminster’
-Why class trumps nationality in the Scottish independence debate
I have more in common with the normal people of England than I do with the wealthy people of Scotland - that’s why I’m voting no
-Scottish Labour activists told ‘nothing as important as stopping UK breakup’
-How independent should Scottish writing be?
Not surprisingly, many authors have been writing about the referendum, but this political approach to their work has problematic implications
COVERAGE FOR YES CAMPAIGN
-Scottish independence: PM’s visit is ‘last gasp of desperation’, says Alex Salmond - video
-Scottish independence: no campaign has fallen apart, says Alex Salmond - video
-Scottish independence: no campaign has fallen apart, says Alex Salmond - video
Impartial (if you call it)
-Scottish referendum: Mumsnet hosts final showdown before vote
-Scotland’s referendum is Britain’s reinvention
Whatever happens, we all share these islands - the independence vote will force us to write a new story
-How would an independent Scotland compare to other nations?
-A week on the Scottish referendum campaign trail - in pictures
-If Scotland votes for independence: the key questions answered
-Scotland independence referendum: what’s the mood around Scotland?
-Scottish independence: which businesses are in the yes or no camp?
-The Scottish independence debate has given politicians what they say they
want - engagement
-A yes vote in Scotland will bring big change to UK civil service
-Close adviser to Ed Miliband calls for creation of an English Labour party
-Scotland v England friendly debate: football will overshadow politics
-Steve Bell on the Scottish independence referendum - cartoon
I think coverage speaks for itself. Highlighted section shows negativity attached to the campaign on both sides.
Proportion: ----For No campaign: ----Yes campaign:---- Impartial
------------30----- ------- 3 ---------12---
Remember, this referendum is also a test for our media and institutes impartiality and long term aftereffects on perceptions of people of Scotland and rUK….
If the G was 30-3 what about the others???
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I think the Guardian's main problem is its Scottish correspondent, who seems to be obsessively against the independence movement. He's retained his post for years so obviously management wants this line. Without him, the Guardian figures may have been more balanced.
The real puzzle is why the Guardian is simultaneously friendly and interested re. the parallel Catalan independence movement, though post-referendum I guess there has been a tightening of that position too. Can't confirm as I've stopped following the Guardian.
+Phantom Power Aw,shame-nobody loves the dear old SNP! Wonder why? Maybe it's all the lies they tell!
Phantom Power where is the video?
Yes, sorry, mate, you need to watch on TH-cam app on some devices
Phantom Power wow quick reply cheers
Pretty sure I can guess all Cochrane's passwords...
For the twenty years preceding 2007 I read literally every newspaper available in England every day (it was to do with my job -- I'm not that hard up for entertainment). Since then, I have not read a single paper. As I have not watched any television for over thirty years (out of choice) my only sources of news are BBC radio, which is IMO on a slippery slope to disaster, and the internet. The point of all this is that I am constantly astonished at the vituperative and vicious comments made in the comments sections of various TH-cam and other channels, which comments are, as far as I can judge, totally unwarranted, and can only have been derived from television and newspaper coverage, or from the commentors' imagination. The facts as gleaned by me from the few sources that provide them are at odds with the media coverage as reported here.
weIl I got to 15 mins then "an error occurred" aye right
One paper you didn't touch was the Guardian - a world on its own. Was it the only UK paper to declare openly for No instead of just rubbishing independence?
That shows it took the issue seriously, but on the other hand, it seems so unexpected that it could do with a look from someone with knowledge. Why? David?
Hi Joyce, a few reasons for this including cost, not actually decidedly different in editorial slant anyways, print circulation is only around 10,000. Dr Patrick can explain reasons if you want to get in touch @DrDavidPatrick
Hi, Joyce. I think I had a message from you on Twitter earlier, but it seems to have simply vanished from my feed! Please tweet me again, and I'd be happy to discuss :)
Ill never ever will support Scottish independence and I always be British first not Scottish I shall always support NO🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Your a brainwashed fecked up Rangers fan, probably in the orange lodge too
I'm TRULY DELIGHTED RANGERS LOST TO FRANKFURT 🏴🏴🏴🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
And I'm a st mirren fan
People like you are nasty
Your Scotland's shame
Seriously I'm interested, I have long believed anyone that states they are British and proud have been completely brainwashed by the establishment, I have numerous examples of how this occurs but first I would like to ask a question. I understand we are all products of our upbringing, but what are you actually proud of being British of, is it the British African Slave Trade or the millions that have been killed in Uganda, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Somalia, Australia, Canada, or the millions that died during the Bengal famine where they invented the concentration camps, in fact not many Countries around the globe have escaped the British wrath, the most recent being Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria does this mass murder of innocence trigger some sort of genocide fetish perhaps??
Or is it the Westminster Parliament who have committed crimes that include Murder, Illegal War, War Crimes, Terrorism, Torture, Crimes against Humanity, Corruption, Espionage, Treason, Drug Trafficking, Paedophilia, Rape, Indecent Assault, Sex Trafficking, Arson, Blackmail, GBH, Bribery, Insider Trading, Cash for Questions, Asset Stripping, Tax Evasion, Money Laundering, Expenses Fraud, Theft, Perjury, Phone Hacking, Spousal Assault, Perverting the Course of Justice, Cover Ups, Cash for Honours, Conspiracy and Forgery.
It can't be all the British institutes like British Steel, BP, British Aerospace, Cable & Wireless, National Freight Corporation, Britoil, Associated British Ports, Enterprise Oil, Jaguar, British Telecommunications, British Shipbuilders, British Gas, British Airways, Rolls-Royce, BAA, British Steel, Water, Electricity they no longer exist as they have been shut down or sold off.
It can't be British Democracy, there ain't any with more unelected Lords than any other Country in the world bar China, an unelected hereditary monarch who only gained their position through Rape, Pillage, Plunder and Murder, within this system we have a 2 party state..
It can't be the title "British" as it doesn't exist "Britain" is a name for three countries - Scotland, England and Wales.
As you can be born in only ONE country, not three, you are either Scottish, English or Welsh.
Many of my points stem from centuries ago to the present day, but let's look at the British government's achievements today
The UK has the 2nd highest childcare costs in the world.
The UK has the highest level of obesity in Western Europe.
The UK has the second-largest debt (per capita) in the world.
The UK is the most expensive place in the world to run a car.
The UK has the most expensive energy costs in Europe.
The UK has been named the most corrupt country in the world.
The UK is home to the largest concentration of nuclear weapons in Europe.
Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the largest structural deficit in Europe.
Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the greatest concentration of land ownership in the world.
Scotland, as a part of the UK, has the largest PFI bill (per capita) in the world.
Job satisfaction levels in the UK as the fourth poorest in the developed world.
The UK is home to the highest aviation tax in the world.
The UK has the longest detention period in the world where an individual can be held without charge for 28 days 16 days longer than Australia, second on the list.
The UK government is under investigation by the United Nations for breaches of Human Rights.
The UK is under investigation for the selling of arms to Saudi Arabia.
The UK is the sixth most unequal country in the world.
Inequality in the UK has grown faster than in any other country since 1970.
The UK has earned the title of worst place to live in Europe following a study which assessed the quality of life and came second-last in the previous year.
The UK has the highest fuel taxes in Europe.
In the last six years, the UK has sold weapons to 24 of the 27 states included on its own list of countries of humanitarian concern.
Wages in the UK have fallen by 10.4% since 2007 a performance matched only by poverty-stricken Greece.
The UK is the fourth most undemocratic country in the developed world.
The UK has the second-largest unelected chamber in the world.
The UK has the second-lowest number of female judges in Europe (right behind Azerbaijan).
Britons have 5.5 fewer work holidays a year than the European average.
The UK has the second-longest working hours in Europe.
The UK provides the second-lowest state pension in the OECD (with only Mexico offering its citizens less).
The UK has the third highest level of inequality in the developed world.
The number of zero-hours contracts in the UK has skyrocketed by 21% compared to last year.
House building in the UK is the lowest since 1923.
The UK's military capacity has been reduced to its lowest level since the Napoleonic wars.
The UK government have presided over more deaths of disabled citizens than the Nazis.
UK homes have the smallest living space in Europe.
The UK is the third most warmongering country in the world.
The UK, with more CCTV cameras (per head of population) than anywhere else, is the most watched country in the world.
In the UK, more than half of new businesses collapse with the UK tax system, a lack of bank lending and the cost of running a business all cited as reasons for failure.
The UK has one of the most complicated tax systems in the world with 10,042 pages of legislation (as of 2010) and an additional 500 pages of new tax law are created each year this also makes administration far less cost-effective with the Institute of Economic Affairs concluding that the annual operating costs of the British tax system were more than 11bn in 2012.
House prices in Britain are around 30pc too high, according to a study published by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation & Development.
The UK has the most expensive rents in Europe ( 350 P/M more than the EU average).
Female mortality rates in the UK are the second poorest in Western Europe.
The UK has the second largest involvement in Panama's tax haven.
Property tax in the UK is the most complex in the world.
So what is it you are so proud of?
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