I've been a Christian for almost three-years now, but was a raging atheist when I started watching this channel. I am not saying you converted me. I am saying that is how good your content is.
Honestly, this objection would be like saying reports of the Spanish riding on horses in the 1500s in central america must be false since there were no horses domesticated widely by the natives of that area by that time.
I find this same thought pattern by Christians, when showing them the Bible is 100% a motionless flat Earth book and all natural science validates those biblical claims.
@@JesusIsaFlatEarther IP made a video about flat earth in the Bible, it’s in his Cultural Context series. He also talked about flat earth during his life Q&A.
How would you know, were you born then, how do you know nobody domesticate the horse, This is stupid thinking, the natives would have known well how powerful a horse could be, if they used donkeys, then they could use a horse , Even wild horses would not be hard to tame if you got a young one, a foal or a yearling, do you truely believe some lad at that time never found a young foal that had lost its mother, and reared it, he then could have harnessed it's power very reasonably for anything he wanted whither it was field work or to carry him about. When I was 6 or 7 years old I went out and caught a baby rabbit and tamed him. He was my pet, My father later let it go and bought me a pet white rabbit. See what I mean, and those lads would be no different at that time, than today. Off course there would have been camels some wild some tame if you were in Morocco or Tun esia today you would see herds of wild camels roaming the deserts, but round them up and in a short time you can take them, when you get them young enough. Look at Mounty Roberts, he tamed and rode a wild mustang in one day. Off course there were camel trains, and horses in the early days, Greeting from Northern Ireland.
This is why I always tell people who say the Bible is “fiction” to go and read about the history of the ancient near East. Just doing that has reaffirmed my faith more than it is dismissed it, since there is more evidence to prove the accuracy of the Bible than there is dismissing it.
I’d actually recommend reading some of the translated tablets to get a feeling for how commonplace the writing style seen in the Bible was in the region.
True. I pray and go to church. No Covid19 will get me. I am immortal because I am a believer. Not gonna take no vaccines and I use no mask. I am not even gonna go to school or work. God will help me.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Camels are more useful for long journeys through dry areas compared to other domesticated animals. Nomads, like the patriarchs, would have found more use for them than settlers who rarely travel. Therefore, it makes sense that the remains of domesticated camels might be harder to find in settlements.
@@mitchellc4 The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 John 10:30 "i and the father are one". Jesus also said that if you deny him then you deny the father. They are NOT seperate, they are both God.
I encountered the "no camels" argument and a refutation of it three or four years ago, but your presentation is more detailed than the one I encountered. Thanks!
I love the idea that a person could be on the fence with regards to the bibles validity - but now that the camel question is sorted they’re fully onboard 😅
For centuries a deep rift has burned at the ideological hearts of christian church men and theologians. The Camelites and the anti-Camelites, and the many church councils and synods called to try to resolve this rapturous issue. 😄
I think it's just awesome that we can go after any and all objections to the Bible's validity no matter how strange or small...chances are, those who raise these types of objections have already made their minds and have hard hearts, but it's still a joy for some of us Christians to pull them apart.
you seriously comparing us not believing in talking donkey, snake, and bush; unicorns, dragons, giants, and witches; magic tricks, people coming back from the dead, and all the other clearly fictional stories in the bible with peanut butter? You got a peanut for a brain my dude....
@@305thief8 how was it a correlation he shows that camels were domesticated near where Abraham and the patriarchy would’ve lived it is not inconceivable that they would’ve had camels especially Abraham would’ve been a traveling person.
Whaddoyoumeme?: "Here's a Christian perspective on politics!" Mike Winger: "Are hell and wrath just metaphors?" IP: *I will explain the history of C A M E L S*
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Which version of an "Atheist" are you then? You know "God" exist; yet you don't want "God"? Or you deny "God" exist; which means we do not trace back to Adam and Eve?
You were too lazy to really investigate before so I highly doubt you are a Christian. You wouldn't be a Christian without the gospel. I don't need ips videos to know the reasons why God exists even if they are informative.
@@nicholaswheeler507 Isn't it possible that he wouldn't have looked into the Gospel without being satisfied that the Bible wasn't an assertion, an empty myth?
You are so gentle in your presentation for having the facts so overwhelmingly on your side. Such a contrast to those who make overwhelming claims without even being aware of all the facts that undermine them.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@reasonforge9997 Who is Jesus’s God? Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
With how much evidence you presented of a camel variant existing in the bronze age, it's a wonder how anyone could even make such an objection to begin with.
So the skeptics tried to say the author of Genesis doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but instead proved they don’t know what they’re talking about. Self owning is real
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 Read the full gospel of John straight through, from beginning to end, in as few sittings as possible (a single sitting, if you can). Then reasses your denial of the full deity of Jesus Christ. And do _not_ read it from a sectarian translation like the Jehovah's Witness New World Translation. You quoted from the Revised Standard Version, so use that. After that, find a non-Catholic (i.e., without the _filioque_ ) translation of the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Read it, study its history (the First Council of Nicea and the First Council of Constantinople), the arguments on both sides, and discover _why_ the consensus of the early Church _defended_ (it did not invent) the full divinity of Jesus Christ, and the doctrine of the Trinity as a whole. Study also the Council of Chalcedon and the Chalcedonian Creed, and why the consensus of the early Church was to defend both the full divinity _and_ the full humanity of Jesus Christ. If you believe the Bible, and if you strive prayerfully to study it with as little preconceived bias as possible, then you cannot help but to come away holding either the canonical diaphysite (1 person with 2 natures [divine and human]) or (not canonical but still non-heretical) miaphysite (1 person with one nature [the two natures of divinity and humanity becoming one in his person]) views of Jesus Christ, the incarnate Logos of God. You cannot hold a monophysite (1 person having _only_ 1 nature [as in _only_ divine or _only_ human, not both]) view; that is blatant heresy.
@@HickoryDickory86 John is very Unitarian Jesus constantly saying Him who sent me my words are not my own I can do NOTHING of myself The Father does the works So I should read “I’m God but I can do nothing of myself” “I’m God but I only do what God tells me to do” “I’m God but these words are not my own” Not to mention Jesus calling the Father the only true God John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. Who is Jesus’s God? Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@InspiringPhilosophy i am still watching...Nice "Dr. Strange" effect! And the sound strikes me as even better. Great quality, good info. Yeah, he was talking about you and WLC on the same level. He isn't wrong. I might put Craig at the top, but you are up there. Godspeed. Consider the pig and the monkey. Perhaps I am just a softy. What is animal suffering to God? I wrestle with this in terms of how the world could operate from a YEC perspective, and I can hardly entertain the current state of the animal kingdom into eternity in light of God's love.
If certain people find pagan records of domesticated camels in some area at some time, they broadcast that as history. But if the source for the same information is the Torah, it’s classified as an anachronism without corroborating pagan sources to back it up.
I believe in the Bible because it talks about stuff that we or scientists didn’t know about before. The Bible talks about the rain cycle Job 36:27,28 the human embryo in Psalm 139:16 and how earth is suspending upon nothing Job 26:7 a lot of this was just discovered or explained by scientists not too long ago and the Bible talks about all this from way back.
The rain cycle is obvious through observation. Human embryos leave the womb early all the time. Earth being suspended on nothing is neither scientific nor a statement of fact. Everything you listed would be obvious to people 1000s of years ago, probably more so then than now. Your fallacy is thinking that science is a recent invention. The practice of observation, measurement and prediction predates any religion; a puddle of water left in the sun all day will disapear. Rain will fall from the sky. Heck, it wouldnt be long before, through science, we figured out the size of the planet, the fact that it is a globe, and the fact that things orbit.
This guy is the REAL deal. Definitely worth supporting...imagine if millions upon millions saw his videos... the (globally) growing Christian faith would flourish even more.
Hi IP if you’re ever free. an atheist fan of yours wants to have a discussion with you about quantam physics or your argument about how QM proves God he’s like a type of a materialist but he really wants to have a discussion with you on discord can you talk to him about it? Btw impressive video again sorry for the copy paste but this guy really wants to meet You
I never thought I would see IP respond to Kyle either. But he's not really an atheist channel anymore, he's pretty much exclusively politics at this point.
@@anahata3478 I would disagree with you on Kyle being right politically. I think he's wrong on most subjects. A few months ago I debated one of his fan boys, now they won't talk to me about politics
@@anahata3478 I love how you assume my political beliefs. I'm anti-interventionist, anti-war entirely, anti-Trump, Anti-border wall, pro-choice, pro-drug legalization, etc. I'm against M4A as it would be paid for via stolen money and I despise democracy. This person doesn't want to talk to me because he, in his OWN WORDS, said "I do not care about the evidence, I will always be left-wing." I was shocked that he admitted it but hey, it is what it is.
Man U are brilliant. The raw amount of material u review, debunk, support, etc is crazy Fact after fact after about incredibly specific topics. I am astonished each time I watch u
Camels originated in what is now Iran; Abraham was born in Ur, which is in present-day Iraq. So seeing as his homeland was adjacent to there, it’s not really much of a stretch. The paper-cut-out pig at 0:35, whoever he is, willingly being deceitful... but what else would one expect from their kind?
Thank you for your research sir. I had come across this predicament a few weeks back in a commentary and realized I would have to put it on the back burner until I did more research myself. Thank you.
Thanks for the logical and coherent presentation. This clip for me was when worlds collide because you included an old clip of Kyle Kulinski (Secular Talk). He's actually a good guy, just a bit heart broken after losing his Dad due to the latter's lack of access to health care. I stand with Christians who adhere to science and rationality and with anyone else as well as Christians who fight for the poor.
I actually watch Kyle quite a bit because I agree with a lot of what he says politically. That's pretty much all his show is at this point. His beliefs don't matter to me.
@@JoshMcSwain Yes he seems to have a good heart, like most folks on that side. I just don't understand why Christians aren't working hard to help working people instead of helping rich folks get more tax cuts.
@@bakhop Go into the search bar on TH-cam and type in "Kyle Kulinski loses his mind" The first few minutes addresses that claim about Kulinski's dad with some pretty good clarity from an ex-follower of his. In summary, Kulinski is not as clear minded as he seems.
I don’t agree with Kyle’s politics (I don’t agree with anyone who is in the classical liberal political tradition), but I respect him and he’s a smart guy when it comes to politics. I respect anyone these days who is sane and does not follow along with the establishment.
Also, I don't get how these guys think that finding some bones in the desert and then radiocarbon dating them proves anything. How do they know they got the oldest known bones that ever existed in the area rather than just some bones that existed sometime later on? Bones completely decay 100% all the time. When the Titanic sank, an 11 year old girl fell off the deck and landed in the smaller rescue boats. She hit her head and it killed her. They buried her in a church grave with a very thick brass belt buckle. 50 years later they dug up the body to do some DNA testing on it to see who the girl was. When they dug her up, they found a small clump of hair, a small tooth I think, and only a small fragment of the brass belt buckle that had been almost totally corroded away. They couldn't even find bits of the wood from the coffin. So if they could barely find evidence of a girl after 50 years, what makes them think they found the oldest known camel that ever died in that area thousands of years ago?
Hi IP if you’re ever free. an atheist fan of yours wants to have a discussion with you about quantam physics or your argument about how QM proves God he’s like a type of a materialist but he really wants to have a discussion with you on discord can you talk to him about it? Btw impressive video
Thanks for this video. I remember my OT Professor bringing this up and requiring Scot McKnight's blog post on the subject to show us issues with Scripture. Thanks for digging deep into this issue.
Dearest IP. Could you respond to other claims made by Holy Koolaid in his series: nothing fails like Bible history. He has some points but the presentation is so obnoxious and seems dishonest to me. Like he is fighting for dear life so emotional. You are a precise and cool guy could go after it. Thanks for the good work; keep it up!
@@InspiringPhilosophy I'm thrilled to hear it. Our Faith is so much more than wishful thinking out of thin air, or just pushing an agenda to an end. It is worthy of being discussed, can be substantiated and is not to be dismissed so hastily. Thank you for taking up the case. I look up to U, mate!
So, their evidence of camels not being in the Levant is pretty much the same as a cop walking up to the house of a man with a warrant for arrest, knocking on the door, getting no answer, and concluding he's not home.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@tinttiakka2028 Who is Jesus’s God? Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@mitchellc4 God is the game designer. Jesus is God’s in game character. Suppose you create a video game character and play a game. Is that character you or not you? It is you and not you. When you made the character you fathered the character, yet its still you!
He puzzles me. He seems like a smart guy but in one of his other videos he said that if the earth stopped rotating everyone would be thrown 1,000 miles an hour in one direction. So if a supernatural being can stop the earth from rotating, could said being not do a second supernatural act and keep everything in place as it stops? I'm not saying whether this was a literal event or something poetic, but his argument doesn't fit.
The video includes links to references in the description. The very first reference is s link to this article from the Journal of the Institute of Archaeology of Tel Aviv University. Did you actually read the article? What we have here is common Christian apologetics where articles are sited but when you actually go and read the article you find the apologist claims the article says the exact opposite of what the article actually says. Even the abstract states “The new evidence indicates that the first significant appearance of camels in the Aravah Valley was not earlier than the last third of the 10th century BCE” www.researchgate.net/profile/Lidar_Sapir-Hen/publication/257921867_The_Introduction_of_Domestic_Camels_to_the_Southern_Levant_Evidence_from_the_Aravah_Valley/links/00b4952619f12e82a5000000/The-Introduction-of-Domestic-Camels-to-the-Southern-Levant-Evidence-from-the-Aravah-Valley.pdf The Gimisin Temple which supposedly shows somebody on a camel. For the life of me I can’t tell what it is the animal is. Once again referencing an article that is the opposite of their claim. Plaque As. 31 ; 783 (Fig. 126/), probably from the Ur III level, shows a rider on an animal in which one would like to discover a camel but for the fact that the use of the camel in Mesopotamia at that period remains unproved. archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.283684/2015.283684.The-Gimilsin_djvu.txt “The traditional nomadic life of the Bedouin makes its appearance only with the domestication of the camel at the turn of the 2nd to 1st millennium BCE.” www.britannica.com/place/Mesopotamia-historical-region-Asia/Sumerian-civilization The Ripinsky “The Camel in Dynastic Egypt” doesn’t actually show domestication only that the Egyptians were aware that camels existed. www.jstor.org/stable/3821718?read-now=1&seq=7#metadata_info_tab_contents As for that camel hair rope. “Caton-Thompson (1934) found a cord of camel hair, about 3 ft. long in the gypsum works of Um-es-Sawan in Fayum. Was it the girdle of a laborer, or perhaps of an immigrant or slave who had come from Arabia? Or does it indicate that camels were used in the gypsum mines? A re-examination of the cord has, however, revealed that the fibers came from sheep (Mindant-Reynes and Braunstein- Silvester, 1977). “ So it has been known since 1977 that it was sheep hair rope. www.isocard.net/images/proceedings/FILEeaccdf0470981b4.pdf “The Domesticated Camel in the Second Millennium: Evidence from Alalakh and Ugarit” article linked should have a question mark at the end so that it would follow Betteridge’s Law of Headlines where the answer is “No”. The original copyist of the Alalakh tablet wrote down “camel” where the word is “stag” or deer which were known to be kept captive in gardens. Again, this is an article they linked to and reports the opposite of what they claim. www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.2307/1355647 Did this video show that a few people in the region knew of camels? Yes. Did this video give any evidence that camels were domesticated in Egypt or the Levant prior to the 10th century BCE? NO! It is heavily documented through art, writing, and archaeological dating of bones that camels were NOT bred and used as beasts of burden in the region prior to the first millennium.
@@misterauctor7353 Yes I did. I think I made it clear in my comments that only I watched the video but went and took the time to read a number of the references in the description. Did you go and read any of the references? Give me your top three timestamps in this video where you think it was conclusively shown that camels were used as beasts of burden in the Southern Levant and Egypt before 1000 BCE. After that period, extensive camel bones are found along the trade routes and at the copper mines. Before, there are none. Why is that? While you at it, how about showing the existence of Israelites before the Bronze Age Collapse, and after that they were anything other than minor settlements that nobody paid any attention to until around 930 BCE.
@@misterauctor7353 So that was your response to my request for archaeological evidence for the existence of the characters or group of people know as Hebrews or Israelites in the Bible stories prior to the 10th century BCE? Just like you don't have any camel bones associated with humans in the Levant or Egypt, do you have any settlements or artifacts that can be attributed to the Hebrews/Israelites from the Bible stories prior to the 10th century BCE? Did you know Israel wasn't a place until 1948? The terms Hebrews and Hebrew people are mostly taken as synonymous with the Semitic-speaking Israelites, especially in the pre-monarchic period when they were still nomadic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews
Let's be honest radio c-14 has its issues. Not acknowledging make us ignorant. Based on presuppositions that are used but never test to be true. Basically not the most trustworthy. Regardless I respect your work a lot, Great Vid.
Well, this is why I love this channel. There are 3 questions on the Bible about it's reliability. The camels, Samuel being summoned and The kings of the Bible having many spouses. You answered one of them. What do you think about the other topics?
@roasted pancakes Well, I'm studying some archeological topics and prophecies. This 2 topics are the last thing I'm going to study (Because, you know, you can't say the whole story is unreliable just because two things we don't know, the Bible never agreed with that David action. And Samuel could be a bad spirit (Saul never saw the summoned Samuel, go read it) or just God letting him know the future. But, later I'm gonna study those topics.
@roasted pancakes Yep, but there is actually a book about that and other aspects. Is God a moral monster? by Paul copan, maybe you would like to read it. Blessings.
As I have watched or read the arguments of Biblical sceptics, it has always surprised me to see just how lacking their scholarship is. In the video excerpts you included, it is obvious the "experts" are relying on the false principle of "absence of evidence is evidence of absence." Actually, proving a negative (no camels in Levant) is logically impossible to anyone but someone who knows everything. As I recall, early archeological skeptics cast aspersions on the Bible claiming it to be in error for there is no archeological evidence that the Hittites ever existed, until - oops - archeological evidence was found.
I always found this puzzling. How in the world could they assert for certain that they didn't have camels? How in the world can something like that be known for certain
@@InspiringPhilosophy I actually have I mean don’t get me wrong god and his angels are cool but there’s just so much material to find about luciel and his army of hell.
I'll add to that: Outside of the Mediterranean coast, Canaan is hill country, with lots of water sources, especially in those early times. Horses, mules, camels, and especially chariots and wagons, would be more of a hinderance than a help. _(Most roads would be only the width of 1 or 2 people. Not an autobahn in sight.)_ A sure footed donkey, if you can't walk, or have too much to carry. Otherwise, you get your backpack, and walk everywhere. Dromedary camels are thought to have come from Arabia. Bactrian camels and horses from central Asia. In all three cases, they can only be in limited supply, anywhere in the Fertile Crescent of that time. That makes them extremely expensive. Just to do a ballpark figure, to show it in our modern terms, but unlike us, with an average but adjusted income of $10,000. _(Almost everyone did self subsistence farming, and earned very little cash.)_ A camel would cost around $500,000. A mule about $750,000. And a horse, you might not get for under $1,500,000! A donkey on the other hand, would be about $10,000. An ox maybe the same. Only wealthy Bedouin merchants could own and keep camels. You had to be someone like Egypt, Assyria, or Babylon to have horses, cavalry and chariots. Finding camel bones, from the early bronze age, in empty Negev, is just pure luck. _(Most likely not far from Eilat to boot.)_ More likely wandered away from a traveling Bedouin merchant _(like Abraham),_ using the Trans-Sinai route between the east side of the Jordan valley & Egypt. _(No one traveled the Negev back then, and Bedouin were rare there. If you went from Canaan to Egypt, you went along the Mediterranean coast... the short route. Or you took the trans-Sinai... the long route.)_
On another topic, have you found a resolution of St Paul and the Malta/Melita venomous snake issue? Malta has no venomous snakes, but Melita (which has venomous snakes) would require a detour to get to Syracuse on the way to Rome.
1:04 just look how smug and self-satisfied he is after telling that SUV joke. You can tell he thinks he just dismantled the entire Bible with that zinger.
IP have you heard Cyrus H. Gordon's arguments why Sumerian Ur isn't the same as Ur of the Chaldees? One funny example is that if Gen 11:31 is true and Abraham was in our Sumerian Ur, then Haran would be way too far out of the way for him to travel through Haran to Canaan. (source: his article "Where Is Abraham’s Ur?") Gordon argues Abraham's Ur is a lot closer to Haran.
If you think about it, it's extremely difficult to claim something didn't exist long time ago somewhere. To prove that something did exist, you only need to show one instance of it existing, but to prove it didn't exist... it's actually impossible, the best you can say is that there is no proof or no reason to believe it did.
It could say they were in jets and christians would believe it or make their weak excuses. How do we cope with large numbers of ppl committed to incorrect ideas?
I have land in the plains of Oklahoma where we know that huge herds of Buffalo once roamed and were hunted for thousands of years. I've never found any Buffalo remains or stone heads on my property. My inability to find them isn't proof they weren't here. Archeologists come to weird conclusions
Also we need a video about Pharos using iron wheels before Iron Age . I think it is just a language progress of using the word iron for solid metal . What do you think?
Another sound refutation of reasons to doubt the Bible. Keep it up IP. What is so weird about Abraham bringing camels with him from Sumer and Egypt to Canaan, people bring things from their land to new lands all the time.
One thing is that people of the bronze age and iron age recorded history different. They add embellishment and literary element to make theological points, the accuracy of the story isn't important. Such as in moses on thing is how to treat others. “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." -Exodus 22:21
This video is very well done. My major concern is that people, both Christians and nonbelievers, treat the Bible, to quote Biblical scholar Dr. Daniel Wallace, as "a 20th century history book" instead of what it was: the story of how God works through the lives of his people and, ultimately, saves them. By which I mean: not every detail is 100% accurate or correct but the meaning/context of everything written in the Bible IS.
InspiringPhilosophy do you plan on ever covering the topic of biblical slavery? I heard multiple times from people like Dr. Josh Bowen and other skeptics that it was a cruel and brutal system, and Christian just whitewash it.
What your thoughts on The God Culture's research of geography regarding the divided territories of Shem, Ham, and Japheth? Here's a list of what I remember. Shem's territory: Middle East, Asia, and the island of Philippines. Ham's territory: Africa, South America, and Australia. And Japheth's territory: Europe and North America. They also put Noah's Ark landing at Mount Everest. You should check out some of their biblical geographic videos some time I believe you may find their research interesting and comparing your work to they're findings might lead to some fun debates between you two.
I guess I should be grateful as a Muslim that we don’t face such accusations lol, cause in our tradition, Abraham and his son Ishmael were already riding camels whilst being in Arabia (specifically, the Hejaz region). Arab nomads were known since time immemorial to be proficient in camel domestication.
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I've been a Christian for almost three-years now, but was a raging atheist when I started watching this channel. I am not saying you converted me. I am saying that is how good your content is.
Welcome home
A big AMEN to that.
What where your reasons for being an atheist and what convinced you that Christianity is true?
Since your conversion, have you faced any backlash from your friends?
Just curious, but what made you become Christian?
Honestly, this objection would be like saying reports of the Spanish riding on horses in the 1500s in central america must be false since there were no horses domesticated widely by the natives of that area by that time.
thats a brilliant observation !
I find this same thought pattern by Christians, when showing them the Bible is 100% a motionless flat Earth book and all natural science validates those biblical claims.
@@JesusIsaFlatEarther IP made a video about flat earth in the Bible, it’s in his Cultural Context series. He also talked about flat earth during his life Q&A.
@@vaskaventi6840 thanks, yeah, it's hard to avoid the in your face science and bible scripture, but it's done every day by Christians.
How would you know, were you born then, how do you know nobody domesticate the horse, This is stupid thinking, the natives would have known well how powerful a horse could be, if they used donkeys, then they could use a horse , Even wild horses would not be hard to tame if you got a young one, a foal or a yearling, do you truely believe some lad at that time never found a young foal that had lost its mother, and reared it, he then could have harnessed it's power very reasonably for anything he wanted whither it was field work or to carry him about. When I was 6 or 7 years old I went out and caught a baby rabbit and tamed him. He was my pet, My father later let it go and bought me a pet white rabbit. See what I mean, and those lads would be no different at that time, than today. Off course there would have been camels some wild some tame if you were in Morocco or Tun esia today you would see herds of wild camels roaming the deserts, but round them up and in a short time you can take them, when you get them young enough. Look at Mounty Roberts, he tamed and rode a wild mustang in one day. Off course there were camel trains, and horses in the early days, Greeting from Northern Ireland.
TL;DW
People can take domesticated camels to places that don't usually have domesticated camels
This is why I always tell people who say the Bible is “fiction” to go and read about the history of the ancient near East. Just doing that has reaffirmed my faith more than it is dismissed it, since there is more evidence to prove the accuracy of the Bible than there is dismissing it.
Any recommendations for near eastern literature? Mesopotamian culture?
@@jj691 who wrote the bible, a great book I have heard
I’d actually recommend reading some of the translated tablets to get a feeling for how commonplace the writing style seen in the Bible was in the region.
True. I pray and go to church. No Covid19 will get me. I am immortal because I am a believer. Not gonna take no vaccines and I use no mask. I am not even gonna go to school or work.
God will help me.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Camels are more useful for long journeys through dry areas compared to other domesticated animals. Nomads, like the patriarchs, would have found more use for them than settlers who rarely travel. Therefore, it makes sense that the remains of domesticated camels might be harder to find in settlements.
@@mitchellc4 The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
You'll never get work in the field of archaeology
@@mitchellc4 John 10:30 "i and the father are one". Jesus also said that if you deny him then you deny the father. They are NOT seperate, they are both God.
I encountered the "no camels" argument and a refutation of it three or four years ago, but your presentation is more detailed than the one I encountered. Thanks!
I love the idea that a person could be on the fence with regards to the bibles validity - but now that the camel question is sorted they’re fully onboard 😅
😂😂😂
For centuries a deep rift has burned at the ideological hearts of christian church men and theologians. The Camelites and the anti-Camelites, and the many church councils and synods called to try to resolve this rapturous issue. 😄
I think it's just awesome that we can go after any and all objections to the Bible's validity no matter how strange or small...chances are, those who raise these types of objections have already made their minds and have hard hearts, but it's still a joy for some of us Christians to pull them apart.
@@InspiringPhilosophy subtitles English, please.
@@InspiringPhilosophy Dromedary camel was domesticated in Africa. www.thoughtco.com/origin-histories-dromedary-bactrian-camels-169366
Pathological skepticism is a thing: I'm sure in 1000 years they'll say peanut butter was a magical mythical substance that didn't exist.
Since peanut allergies are increasing , That may be true. They would say "People wouldn't eat that it's bad. "
@@hellavadeal Whoa, you're right. Scary how easy that is.
Peanut skeptics
Lol
you seriously comparing us not believing in talking donkey, snake, and bush; unicorns, dragons, giants, and witches; magic tricks, people coming back from the dead, and all the other clearly fictional stories in the bible with peanut butter?
You got a peanut for a brain my dude....
Awesome. So the mentions of camels in genesis are actually rather evidence FOR Genesis being written early.
Its a correlation but it can added to the case
Yep we learn overtime.
Yup! I love that :)
@@305thief8 how was it a correlation he shows that camels were domesticated near where Abraham and the patriarchy would’ve lived it is not inconceivable that they would’ve had camels especially Abraham would’ve been a traveling person.
@@webslinger527 A correlation isnt bad thing i even said it can be added to the case that Genesis is early the vid is great
Whaddoyoumeme?: "Here's a Christian perspective on politics!"
Mike Winger: "Are hell and wrath just metaphors?"
IP:
*I will explain the history of C A M E L S*
You misunderstand, this is about politics
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That rope is used as a metaphor for the new vp
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4
where did jesus say i am god worship me david wood
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And we're going to like it
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Skeptics will still say that was word salad and not really evidence.
They would say this this video is a S T R E T C H
They were ever really interested in learning..
The aim of the Godless is dominance of the Church. They believe themselves to be a “master race” in terms of ideology.
The problem with such people is that they are not skeptical enough; lest they would seek truth out of their comfort zone.
@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz this video is not really a stretch at all if anything , He gives really good evidence and sites unbiased sources. (History).
Thank you so much for spreading the gospel!
Thank you for the donation.
Dude, I’d probably be an atheist without your videos.
Thank you.
Which version of an "Atheist" are you then? You know "God" exist; yet you don't want "God"?
Or you deny "God" exist; which means we do not trace back to Adam and Eve?
@@SabbatarianSundayer. no I’m a Christian, I’m saying that I probably wouldn’t be if these videos never existed.
@@gregoryt8792 I’m Christian, I’ve been reading it daily
You were too lazy to really investigate before so I highly doubt you are a Christian. You wouldn't be a Christian without the gospel. I don't need ips videos to know the reasons why God exists even if they are informative.
@@nicholaswheeler507 Isn't it possible that he wouldn't have looked into the Gospel without being satisfied that the Bible wasn't an assertion, an empty myth?
You are so gentle in your presentation for having the facts so overwhelmingly on your side. Such a contrast to those who make overwhelming claims without even being aware of all the facts that undermine them.
Great catch. Thank you for pointing that out.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 John 1:1: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.
@@mitchellc4 also: John 18:58: εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Ἰησοῦς · Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί.
@@reasonforge9997 Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
I don't understand how camels could undermine the reliability of the Bible. It sounds petty
Theyll say anything to try to debunk the Bible but itll never happen.
With how much evidence you presented of a camel variant existing in the bronze age, it's a wonder how anyone could even make such an objection to begin with.
Because 99.9999% of people will simply accept it as fact.
So the skeptics tried to say the author of Genesis doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but instead proved they don’t know what they’re talking about. Self owning is real
They tend to do that. 😂
Keep up the Good Work. I can't wait to see your work on the Book of Exodus!
March 26th
@@InspiringPhilosophy Can't wait
never did i think i would watch a video on camels and enjoy it
same man
Same
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 Read the full gospel of John straight through, from beginning to end, in as few sittings as possible (a single sitting, if you can). Then reasses your denial of the full deity of Jesus Christ.
And do _not_ read it from a sectarian translation like the Jehovah's Witness New World Translation. You quoted from the Revised Standard Version, so use that.
After that, find a non-Catholic (i.e., without the _filioque_ ) translation of the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Read it, study its history (the First Council of Nicea and the First Council of Constantinople), the arguments on both sides, and discover _why_ the consensus of the early Church _defended_ (it did not invent) the full divinity of Jesus Christ, and the doctrine of the Trinity as a whole.
Study also the Council of Chalcedon and the Chalcedonian Creed, and why the consensus of the early Church was to defend both the full divinity _and_ the full humanity of Jesus Christ.
If you believe the Bible, and if you strive prayerfully to study it with as little preconceived bias as possible, then you cannot help but to come away holding either the canonical diaphysite (1 person with 2 natures [divine and human]) or (not canonical but still non-heretical) miaphysite (1 person with one nature [the two natures of divinity and humanity becoming one in his person]) views of Jesus Christ, the incarnate Logos of God. You cannot hold a monophysite (1 person having _only_ 1 nature [as in _only_ divine or _only_ human, not both]) view; that is blatant heresy.
@@HickoryDickory86
John is very Unitarian
Jesus constantly saying
Him who sent me
my words are not my own
I can do NOTHING of myself
The Father does the works
So I should read “I’m God but I can do nothing of myself”
“I’m God but I only do what God tells me to do”
“I’m God but these words are not my own”
Not to mention Jesus calling the Father the only true God
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
James from MDD thinks you are probably the best debater for the faith.
That is quite an honor!
@@InspiringPhilosophy i am still watching...Nice "Dr. Strange" effect! And the sound strikes me as even better. Great quality, good info. Yeah, he was talking about you and WLC on the same level. He isn't wrong. I might put Craig at the top, but you are up there. Godspeed.
Consider the pig and the monkey. Perhaps I am just a softy. What is animal suffering to God? I wrestle with this in terms of how the world could operate from a YEC perspective, and I can hardly entertain the current state of the animal kingdom into eternity in light of God's love.
I think this is the first time I've seen MDD being bias :D. ayayayayya
@@Jamie-Russell-CME He is making a vid on animal suffering in June
@@305thief8 which year tho
The amount of work this must take is staggering. You are truly productive, and must work so hard.
If certain people find pagan records of domesticated camels in some area at some time, they broadcast that as history. But if the source for the same information is the Torah, it’s classified as an anachronism without corroborating pagan sources to back it up.
I believe in the Bible because it talks about stuff that we or scientists didn’t know about before. The Bible talks about the rain cycle Job 36:27,28 the human embryo in Psalm 139:16 and how earth is suspending upon nothing Job 26:7 a lot of this was just discovered or explained by scientists not too long ago and the Bible talks about all this from way back.
The rain cycle is obvious through observation. Human embryos leave the womb early all the time. Earth being suspended on nothing is neither scientific nor a statement of fact.
Everything you listed would be obvious to people 1000s of years ago, probably more so then than now.
Your fallacy is thinking that science is a recent invention. The practice of observation, measurement and prediction predates any religion; a puddle of water left in the sun all day will disapear. Rain will fall from the sky. Heck, it wouldnt be long before, through science, we figured out the size of the planet, the fact that it is a globe, and the fact that things orbit.
At a scrap yard in Scottsdale is where I realized AZ didn't have cars until 1992.
This type of research is a strength of yours IP. Good presentation.
And that's how its done..! Great video
Nice video I’m subscribing.
This guy is the REAL deal. Definitely worth supporting...imagine if millions upon millions saw his videos... the (globally) growing Christian faith would flourish even more.
Damn IP! Have mercy on your opponents!
NO!
Hi IP if you’re ever free. an atheist fan of yours wants to have a discussion with you about quantam physics or your argument about how QM proves God he’s like a type of a materialist but he really wants to have a discussion with you on discord can you talk to him about it?
Btw impressive video
again sorry for the copy paste but this guy really wants to meet You
They didn’t show us mercy behind the Iron Curtain, so we’re returning the favor.
@@DLAbaoaqu Lovingly sharing the truth like this, truly is the Christian way of returning such a favour.
God bless you all.
@@Menzobarrenza That’s what I mean. You expect us to be a doormat or a punching bag for you. You can’t bear the thought of us defending ourselves.
Never thought I'd see IP respond to Kyle Kullinski. I'd love to see you two debate
Kyle ain't worthy...
I never thought I would see IP respond to Kyle either. But he's not really an atheist channel anymore, he's pretty much exclusively politics at this point.
@@anahata3478 I would disagree with you on Kyle being right politically. I think he's wrong on most subjects. A few months ago I debated one of his fan boys, now they won't talk to me about politics
@@anahata3478 I love how you assume my political beliefs. I'm anti-interventionist, anti-war entirely, anti-Trump, Anti-border wall, pro-choice, pro-drug legalization, etc.
I'm against M4A as it would be paid for via stolen money and I despise democracy. This person doesn't want to talk to me because he, in his OWN WORDS, said "I do not care about the evidence, I will always be left-wing." I was shocked that he admitted it but hey, it is what it is.
@@anunknownentity1637 If you despise democracy SHUT UP. You have no voice except in a democracy. No democracy and only the tyrants may have opinions.
Thank you. Even in the show, The Big Bang Theory, they were splurting out that nonsense.
Man U are brilliant. The raw amount of material u review, debunk, support, etc is crazy
Fact after fact after about incredibly specific topics. I am astonished each time I watch u
Your videos are so profound and of high quality. You helped my faith a lot, and helped me understand God's Word. Keep up the good work!
Camels originated in what is now Iran; Abraham was born in Ur, which is in present-day Iraq. So seeing as his homeland was adjacent to there, it’s not really much of a stretch.
The paper-cut-out pig at 0:35, whoever he is, willingly being deceitful... but what else would one expect from their kind?
Thank you for your research sir. I had come across this predicament a few weeks back in a commentary and realized I would have to put it on the back burner until I did more research myself. Thank you.
Thanks for the logical and coherent presentation. This clip for me was when worlds collide because you included an old clip of Kyle Kulinski (Secular Talk). He's actually a good guy, just a bit heart broken after losing his Dad due to the latter's lack of access to health care. I stand with Christians who adhere to science and rationality and with anyone else as well as Christians who fight for the poor.
I actually watch Kyle quite a bit because I agree with a lot of what he says politically. That's pretty much all his show is at this point. His beliefs don't matter to me.
@@JoshMcSwain Yes he seems to have a good heart, like most folks on that side. I just don't understand why Christians aren't working hard to help working people instead of helping rich folks get more tax cuts.
@@bakhop Go into the search bar on TH-cam and type in "Kyle Kulinski loses his mind" The first few minutes addresses that claim about Kulinski's dad with some pretty good clarity from an ex-follower of his. In summary, Kulinski is not as clear minded as he seems.
I don’t agree with Kyle’s politics (I don’t agree with anyone who is in the classical liberal political tradition), but I respect him and he’s a smart guy when it comes to politics. I respect anyone these days who is sane and does not follow along with the establishment.
Also, I don't get how these guys think that finding some bones in the desert and then radiocarbon dating them proves anything. How do they know they got the oldest known bones that ever existed in the area rather than just some bones that existed sometime later on? Bones completely decay 100% all the time.
When the Titanic sank, an 11 year old girl fell off the deck and landed in the smaller rescue boats. She hit her head and it killed her. They buried her in a church grave with a very thick brass belt buckle. 50 years later they dug up the body to do some DNA testing on it to see who the girl was. When they dug her up, they found a small clump of hair, a small tooth I think, and only a small fragment of the brass belt buckle that had been almost totally corroded away. They couldn't even find bits of the wood from the coffin.
So if they could barely find evidence of a girl after 50 years, what makes them think they found the oldest known camel that ever died in that area thousands of years ago?
Thank you for your research. You combine sources the rest of us wouldn't have access to.
I have a new appreciation for how ancient camels are. Very informative video.
Dude really thank you a lot I appreciate your efforts and you helped me so much greetings from tunisia ❤️❤️
IP is the terminator of apologetics.
*He'll Be Back*
@@ScotsThinker lol
Hi IP if you’re ever free. an atheist fan of yours wants to have a discussion with you about quantam physics or your argument about how QM proves God he’s like a type of a materialist but he really wants to have a discussion with you on discord can you talk to him about it?
Btw impressive video
Thanks for this video. I remember my OT Professor bringing this up and requiring Scot McKnight's blog post on the subject to show us issues with Scripture. Thanks for digging deep into this issue.
You are literally doing God's work.
Absolutely awesome video as always IP!
Dearest IP. Could you respond to other claims made by Holy Koolaid in his series: nothing fails like Bible history. He has some points but the presentation is so obnoxious and seems dishonest to me. Like he is fighting for dear life so emotional. You are a precise and cool guy could go after it. Thanks for the good work; keep it up!
Bump so he sees
@@arthur9096 so be it
Yep, I'll be indirectly addressing a lot of his claims. My Exodus documentary coming out this March will cover several arguments he makes.
@@InspiringPhilosophy just wondering will you ever respond to RR? 🤔
@@InspiringPhilosophy I'm thrilled to hear it. Our Faith is so much more than wishful thinking out of thin air, or just pushing an agenda to an end. It is worthy of being discussed, can be substantiated and is not to be dismissed so hastily. Thank you for taking up the case. I look up to U, mate!
So, their evidence of camels not being in the Levant is pretty much the same as a cop walking up to the house of a man with a warrant for arrest, knocking on the door, getting no answer, and concluding he's not home.
Before Abraham was, there likely were some domesticated camels.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
I am glad when you say " let's consider what the bible actually says".
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 Jesus is god
@@tinttiakka2028
Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@mitchellc4 Check out IPs series on the Trinity
@@mitchellc4 God is the game designer. Jesus is God’s in game character. Suppose you create a video game character and play a game. Is that character you or not you? It is you and not you. When you made the character you fathered the character, yet its still you!
Nailed it again. Someone is doing their homework, and it ain’t the skeptics.
I'll take the word of God over any "experts" every time!
I’m still a little skeptical of what you are saying. What sources did you use, and may I please have a look at them?
All sources were listed in the video
@@InspiringPhilosophy thank you that and all of your work.
I read the thumbnail as "Does Genius Have a Big Error?" and thought, knowingly, "Why, yes it does."
It is a continual joy to watch simple analysis overthrow the tantrums of snarling frauds.
Man un-holy koolaid makes sweeping assertions without even examining the evidence lmaoo
He puzzles me. He seems like a smart guy but in one of his other videos he said that if the earth stopped rotating everyone would be thrown 1,000 miles an hour in one direction. So if a supernatural being can stop the earth from rotating, could said being not do a second supernatural act and keep everything in place as it stops? I'm not saying whether this was a literal event or something poetic, but his argument doesn't fit.
The video includes links to references in the description. The very first reference is s link to this article from the Journal of the Institute of Archaeology of Tel Aviv University. Did you actually read the article? What we have here is common Christian apologetics where articles are sited but when you actually go and read the article you find the apologist claims the article says the exact opposite of what the article actually says. Even the abstract states “The new evidence indicates that the first significant appearance of camels in the Aravah Valley was not earlier than the last third of the 10th century BCE”
www.researchgate.net/profile/Lidar_Sapir-Hen/publication/257921867_The_Introduction_of_Domestic_Camels_to_the_Southern_Levant_Evidence_from_the_Aravah_Valley/links/00b4952619f12e82a5000000/The-Introduction-of-Domestic-Camels-to-the-Southern-Levant-Evidence-from-the-Aravah-Valley.pdf
The Gimisin Temple which supposedly shows somebody on a camel. For the life of me I can’t tell what it is the animal is. Once again referencing an article that is the opposite of their claim.
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31 ; 783 (Fig. 126/), probably from the Ur III level, shows a rider on an animal in which one
would like to discover a camel but for the fact that the use of the camel in Mesopotamia at that
period remains unproved.
archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.283684/2015.283684.The-Gimilsin_djvu.txt
“The traditional nomadic life of the Bedouin makes its appearance only with the domestication of the camel at the turn of the 2nd to 1st millennium BCE.”
www.britannica.com/place/Mesopotamia-historical-region-Asia/Sumerian-civilization
The Ripinsky “The Camel in Dynastic Egypt” doesn’t actually show domestication only that the Egyptians were aware that camels existed.
www.jstor.org/stable/3821718?read-now=1&seq=7#metadata_info_tab_contents
As for that camel hair rope.
“Caton-Thompson (1934) found a cord of camel hair, about 3 ft. long in the gypsum works of Um-es-Sawan in Fayum. Was it the girdle of a laborer, or perhaps of an immigrant or slave who had come from Arabia? Or does it indicate that camels were used in the gypsum mines? A re-examination of the cord has, however, revealed that the fibers came from sheep (Mindant-Reynes and Braunstein- Silvester, 1977).
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So it has been known since 1977 that it was sheep hair rope.
www.isocard.net/images/proceedings/FILEeaccdf0470981b4.pdf
“The Domesticated Camel in the Second Millennium: Evidence from Alalakh and Ugarit” article linked should have a question mark at the end so that it would follow Betteridge’s Law of Headlines where the answer is “No”. The original copyist of the Alalakh tablet wrote down “camel” where the word is “stag” or deer which were known to be kept captive in gardens. Again, this is an article they linked to and reports the opposite of what they claim.
www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.2307/1355647
Did this video show that a few people in the region knew of camels? Yes. Did this video give any evidence that camels were domesticated in Egypt or the Levant prior to the 10th century BCE? NO! It is heavily documented through art, writing, and archaeological dating of bones that camels were NOT bred and used as beasts of burden in the region prior to the first millennium.
Did you watch the video?
@@misterauctor7353 Yes I did. I think I made it clear in my comments that only I watched the video but went and took the time to read a number of the references in the description. Did you go and read any of the references? Give me your top three timestamps in this video where you think it was conclusively shown that camels were used as beasts of burden in the Southern Levant and Egypt before 1000 BCE. After that period, extensive camel bones are found along the trade routes and at the copper mines. Before, there are none. Why is that?
While you at it, how about showing the existence of Israelites before the Bronze Age Collapse, and after that they were anything other than minor settlements that nobody paid any attention to until around 930 BCE.
@@oscargordon Question. Do you know that Abraham wasn't from Israel?
@@misterauctor7353 So that was your response to my request for archaeological evidence for the existence of the characters or group of people know as Hebrews or Israelites in the Bible stories prior to the 10th century BCE? Just like you don't have any camel bones associated with humans in the Levant or Egypt, do you have any settlements or artifacts that can be attributed to the Hebrews/Israelites from the Bible stories prior to the 10th century BCE?
Did you know Israel wasn't a place until 1948?
The terms Hebrews and Hebrew people are mostly taken as synonymous with the Semitic-speaking Israelites, especially in the pre-monarchic period when they were still nomadic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews
Let's be honest radio c-14 has its issues. Not acknowledging make us ignorant. Based on presuppositions that are used but never test to be true. Basically not the most trustworthy. Regardless I respect your work a lot, Great Vid.
Historians and archaeologists will riot if they see a camel smoking a cigarette from a picture of a stone tablet
Well, this is why I love this channel.
There are 3 questions on the Bible about it's reliability.
The camels, Samuel being summoned and The kings of the Bible having many spouses.
You answered one of them.
What do you think about the other topics?
@roasted pancakes Well, I'm studying some archeological topics and prophecies. This 2 topics are the last thing I'm going to study (Because, you know, you can't say the whole story is unreliable just because two things we don't know, the Bible never agreed with that David action. And Samuel could be a bad spirit (Saul never saw the summoned Samuel, go read it) or just God letting him know the future.
But, later I'm gonna study those topics.
@roasted pancakes Yep, but there is actually a book about that and other aspects. Is God a moral monster? by Paul copan, maybe you would like to read it. Blessings.
Your work is just in a league of its own but some of our skeptic friends will still say that's not really evidence.
As I have watched or read the arguments of Biblical sceptics, it has always surprised me to see just how lacking their scholarship is. In the video excerpts you included, it is obvious the "experts" are relying on the false principle of "absence of evidence is evidence of absence." Actually, proving a negative (no camels in Levant) is logically impossible to anyone but someone who knows everything.
As I recall, early archeological skeptics cast aspersions on the Bible claiming it to be in error for there is no archeological evidence that the Hittites ever existed, until - oops - archeological evidence was found.
Very nice, and good background music, too. What's the name of the tune?
The problem with pseudo- skeptics is they have no skepticism on bible deniers.
Love your work thank u for what u do
Could the word ‘camel’ be a mistranslation for some other animal? The Maltese (a dialect of Arabic) word ‘giemel’ means ‘horse’, for example.
I always found this puzzling. How in the world could they assert for certain that they didn't have camels? How in the world can something like that be known for certain
digging up the past to clarify our present and secure our futures
Skeptics skepticize everything except skepticism
Can there be a video about how the name demon came to be?
Or demonology in general if you do that or should I find someone else, anyone you recommend?
Look up the term daemon.
@@InspiringPhilosophy I actually have I mean don’t get me wrong god and his angels are cool but there’s just so much material to find about luciel and his army of hell.
I know I'm late, but the late Dr. Michael Heiser talks a lot about demons and angels
I'll add to that:
Outside of the Mediterranean coast, Canaan is hill country, with lots of water sources, especially in those early times. Horses, mules, camels, and especially chariots and wagons, would be more of a hinderance than a help. _(Most roads would be only the width of 1 or 2 people. Not an autobahn in sight.)_ A sure footed donkey, if you can't walk, or have too much to carry. Otherwise, you get your backpack, and walk everywhere.
Dromedary camels are thought to have come from Arabia. Bactrian camels and horses from central Asia. In all three cases, they can only be in limited supply, anywhere in the Fertile Crescent of that time. That makes them extremely expensive. Just to do a ballpark figure, to show it in our modern terms, but unlike us, with an average but adjusted income of $10,000. _(Almost everyone did self subsistence farming, and earned very little cash.)_ A camel would cost around $500,000. A mule about $750,000. And a horse, you might not get for under $1,500,000! A donkey on the other hand, would be about $10,000. An ox maybe the same. Only wealthy Bedouin merchants could own and keep camels. You had to be someone like Egypt, Assyria, or Babylon to have horses, cavalry and chariots. Finding camel bones, from the early bronze age, in empty Negev, is just pure luck. _(Most likely not far from Eilat to boot.)_ More likely wandered away from a traveling Bedouin merchant _(like Abraham),_ using the Trans-Sinai route between the east side of the Jordan valley & Egypt. _(No one traveled the Negev back then, and Bedouin were rare there. If you went from Canaan to Egypt, you went along the Mediterranean coast... the short route. Or you took the trans-Sinai... the long route.)_
On another topic, have you found a resolution of St Paul and the Malta/Melita venomous snake issue? Malta has no venomous snakes, but Melita (which has venomous snakes) would require a detour to get to Syracuse on the way to Rome.
Idea for next comic book movie franchise. ..
Camel Man, Camel Man
Does whatever a Camel can
🐪🐫🌴 ...A Camelite Campbellite here..."Walker's Book of Mammals (vol 2)", set me straight in 2008....Domesticate Drometary doubters can pound sand...
Skeptics will now say that the early picture of a man pulling the camel, wasn't a camel. It was a dinosaur.
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Off topic.. I don't know if there is a video on this but what is your view on life on other planets?
Agreed that we need more interpretation of the cuneiform tablets
1:04 just look how smug and self-satisfied he is after telling that SUV joke. You can tell he thinks he just dismantled the entire Bible with that zinger.
IP have you heard Cyrus H. Gordon's arguments why Sumerian Ur isn't the same as Ur of the Chaldees? One funny example is that if Gen 11:31 is true and Abraham was in our Sumerian Ur, then Haran would be way too far out of the way for him to travel through Haran to Canaan. (source: his article "Where Is Abraham’s Ur?") Gordon argues Abraham's Ur is a lot closer to Haran.
If this is the --hump-- hill the septic skeptics are choosing to die on, you know they're in full desperation mode!
If you think about it, it's extremely difficult to claim something didn't exist long time ago somewhere. To prove that something did exist, you only need to show one instance of it existing, but to prove it didn't exist... it's actually impossible, the best you can say is that there is no proof or no reason to believe it did.
It could say they were in jets and christians would believe it or make their weak excuses. How do we cope with large numbers of ppl committed to incorrect ideas?
I have land in the plains of Oklahoma where we know that huge herds of Buffalo once roamed and were hunted for thousands of years. I've never found any Buffalo remains or stone heads on my property. My inability to find them isn't proof they weren't here. Archeologists come to weird conclusions
Gotta love that old clip of Kyle Kulinski (Secular Talk) thinking he just dunked on the Bible not realizing he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Also we need a video about Pharos using iron wheels before Iron Age . I think it is just a language progress of using the word iron for solid metal . What do you think?
Great work!
Another sound refutation of reasons to doubt the Bible. Keep it up IP. What is so weird about Abraham bringing camels with him from Sumer and Egypt to Canaan, people bring things from their land to new lands all the time.
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One thing is that people of the bronze age and iron age recorded history different. They add embellishment and literary element to make theological points, the accuracy of the story isn't important. Such as in moses on thing is how to treat others.
“You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." -Exodus 22:21
Many big errors... genesis says nothing about speciation via evolution.... this is expected since it was not known until 2000 years later
You are wrong, genesis says everything (except god) has a beginning.
This video is very well done. My major concern is that people, both Christians and nonbelievers, treat the Bible, to quote Biblical scholar Dr. Daniel Wallace, as "a 20th century history book" instead of what it was: the story of how God works through the lives of his people and, ultimately, saves them. By which I mean: not every detail is 100% accurate or correct but the meaning/context of everything written in the Bible IS.
InspiringPhilosophy do you plan on ever covering the topic of biblical slavery? I heard multiple times from people like Dr. Josh Bowen and other skeptics that it was a cruel and brutal system, and Christian just whitewash it.
June
@@InspiringPhilosophy Rad.
@@InspiringPhilosophy I’ll be waiting eagerly for that one.
How practical would a Bactrian camel be in the Levant? My understanding is they are usually used in colder, more mountainous regions.
Very good video
God bless you, man.
They can’t even debunk the Bible with minuscule errors. God and His Word are too mighty.
lol i was thinking the same thing! they are really getting desperate
🐪🐫 i wish i could travel back in history.
Pround to see in 4:14 Bible in romanian language!!! Pround to be a romanian Christian!
I love your videos from Romania, IP.
What your thoughts on The God Culture's research of geography regarding the divided territories of Shem, Ham, and Japheth?
Here's a list of what I remember.
Shem's territory: Middle East, Asia, and the island of Philippines.
Ham's territory: Africa, South America, and Australia.
And Japheth's territory: Europe and North America.
They also put Noah's Ark landing at Mount Everest.
You should check out some of their biblical geographic videos some time I believe you may find their research interesting and comparing your work to they're findings might lead to some fun debates between you two.
I guess I should be grateful as a Muslim that we don’t face such accusations lol, cause in our tradition, Abraham and his son Ishmael were already riding camels whilst being in Arabia (specifically, the Hejaz region). Arab nomads were known since time immemorial to be proficient in camel domestication.
I guess you could say you sent in the calvary with this video
Bravo, IP. Bravo!!!