The Mk III Snider-Enfield: The Manual Exercise c. 1867
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Private McKenzie reminds me in Private Hitch in Zulu 😂😂, poor lad!
Poor Hitch. That said, that movie took many liberties with the men's actual characters.... sadly, many to their detriment...
I actually laughed out loud at that intro! Another cracking video rob.
Cheers!
A labor of love to do all of this work. As always, a joy to watch and learn. Thanks
Thanks Mark! You know a thing or two about labouring for the love of it, I'm sure!... :-)
ahh poor mackenzie great video as always
He brings it on himself really...
Well done, and great locations such as the mountain segment. Very enjoyable.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
2:56 God damm them British outfits are smart.
How could you possibly go into the jungle without such a rig?
Dammit McKenzie
Exellent video, unique channel!
Thank you !
As always a really interesting video. Roll on the next one.
Cheers!
Extra drill....... poor MacKenzie....... at least it's not KP .... :D Great video again, very enjoyable! :D
Cheers!
Excellent as always!
Thank you!
Are you planning on doing an videos on the Land Pattern "Brown Bess" musket? I have a Short Land Pattern and discovered some interesting things from reading the Scottish and English manuals for them.
Projectiles vary from .690 to .730 and powder weights started with the 1722 English Tower load at 75 grains of FFF, eventually evolving up to a frightening 120 grain loads in some of the Scottish manuals I have read. Not sure how much of that was for priming the pan, but still scary hot. I had to convert Drams to Grains, and there may be something lost in translation there.
When actually shooting, the stout powder loads produce better accuracy, which is my theory on why the load evolved upwards and the ball evolved downwards to .690 for increased muzzle velocity to achieve a higher point blank range and ease of ramming after the bore became fowled. Later manuals said that hits were expected by trained British Infantry at 75 yards.
My 100 grain FFF load behind a .730 round ball, ramming then entire packaging paper cartridge as sabot wadding produced 2" groups at 25 yards. I only shoot 10 rounds at a time, although if I fired a combat load of 60 rounds I am sure that I would see the value of ramming a .690 ball. I have tried FF loads, but have trouble getting them to burn, so I will be working a mixed FF and FFF load in the future.
I plagiarized your printer paper wrapping technique for the 10 cartridge battle pack tied with twine, if for no other reason than it is really cool. I use supermarket paper bags cut to fit my printer.
Great video!
Cheers!
That cat was entirely unimpressed with your pokey.
Also, anybody who skipped ahead should be flogged.
Unimpressed but intently curious....
Your Videos are top.
Thank you !
Poor Moggy !!!--Bayoneted ! --And THEN kicked up the Bum !!
Yes a little humor is fine indeed. How many hours went into the making of this very detailed post, and what of the difficulty finding information? Thanks again for all your effort. BM of NZ
I stopped counting hours a long time ago, Bryan. There are that many. Brainstorming, scripting for certain parts, filming, editing as well as travelling, ammo production (where applicable), making or adjusting kit (as in this video) and other details make each project a colossal time-sink.... happy to do it of course!.. :-) The information is out there on the internet, in manuals and books. The minutia of Historical Shooting!
Thanks for the response. Until next time then, all the best.
You are so Canadian i love it!
What can I say?...... Wait,.... what do you mean by that?..... :-)
4:12 - The Fenians? At first, I thought this was an English racist epithet against the Irish, but looking further I discovered they were a band of guerrilla militants (terrorist/freedom fighter depending on your view) in the United States that raided into Canada after the American Civil War in order to force the UK to free Ireland. I was a bit embarrassed not knowing of this, but discovered that many Canadians don't know about the Fenian raids that helped unify Canada.
Between 1866 and 1871, the Fenian raids of the Fenian Brotherhood, an Irish Republican organization based in the United States, on British army forts, customs posts and other targets in Canada, were fought to bring pressure on the UK to withdraw from Ireland. They divided Catholic Irish-Canadians, many of whom were torn between loyalty to their new home and sympathy for the aims of the Fenians. The Protestant Irish were generally loyal to the UK and fought with the Orange Order against the Fenians. While US authorities arrested the men and confiscated their arms, there is speculation that some in the US government had turned a blind eye to the preparations for the invasion, angered at actions that could have been construed as British assistance to the Confederate States during the American Civil War. There were five Fenian raids of note and all of them ended in failure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids
May 31, 1866: Irish Invade Canada in Effort to Free Ireland (Fenian Raids) th-cam.com/video/y8xFCyxtbzw/w-d-xo.html
Sean Cullen On The Fenian Raids: Something You Might Not Know About Canada th-cam.com/video/bt74FoAdjFo/w-d-xo.html
Glad to hear that something peaked your interest and caused you to dig deeper! Love it. Cheers.
As always I learned something new today thanks, Sent Martyn a note .600-535 XR is on the way...
Cheers! That's a great bullet.
Do not despair fools. With a little training, we can get to make military... Merci pour cette vidéo! Un pouce en l'air.
Thank you! You are welcome!
Mackenzie can only hope for another potato famine
Rob, did you build a historical military emplacement in your garden in the time since your last video?
Yes, but I haven't told my wife yet.... Shhhh...
No mention of the Fort Henry Guard? They drill with Sniders in a similar fashion the Citadel Guards do.
Sure. Only they spend too much time with the Yanks.... Theirs is "theatre for the masses" and infused with all kinds of kabuki that didn't exist in the Victorian era. But a complicated set of choreography indeed.
Why you always fucking up McKenzie
John Shell I usually feel a little sorry for McKenzie. This time, not so much.
You have a great way of teaching , and you always give me a great laugh . Great job Rob
Thanks Mark. Glad you enjoyed it.
Spot on Rob. It makes me cringe when I see a couple ceremonial troops amateurishly stomp their foot as the modern Canadian Army does. They ought to pay attention and watch the video and learn.
Cheers Bob. Spread the word!
Received the mold and Wow that pours a pretty round, this weekend will be epic, let the fire forming begin, Thanks so much for all the info... do you have a face book page? I would make a friend request if your interested?
I do. The link is the icon on the Channel Home page..... or search for Britishmuzzleloaders on FB. Hope that you'll share your experiences there or over on the British Militaria Forum "Snider" forum.
I'll look into that too...thanks
Interesting stuff, thank you 🇬🇧
Cheers!
Wearing a kilt while it´s cold outside? That takes guts! Beautiful video as always and hope you didn´t catch hypothermia that day!
All OK!
What sort or sorts of wood were used to construct these firearms, may be walnut?
Yes.
Every unit has a MacKenzie. Or two, or three….
Yes they do...
Why don't you belong to the VEMRA club, eh?
Because I am not where they are.
Wouldn't it be a dream to go back in time and join the British Ranks and do drill practice with them?
No it would not.... :-)
Yah it would. What's your fantasy?
Brilliant videos. I own s snider Enfield I brought back from Afghanistan... it’s a conversion from the short Enfield musket. I really am not getting any real accuracy out of it. Did you try different bullet weights and powder amounts to get to your accurate load? Please keep these videos going.
On the subject of videos, there is a series of sorts, 2 on Snider Ammunition, 2 on work up of the Snider at 100yds, and 1 on shooting at longer ranges, here on the Channel.
Who invaded? Fenians? I was trying to google it but without correct spelling it’s hard to know if I got the right group.
Fenians... when you type that into google, the first suggested hit is "Fenian Raids"......
britishmuzzleloaders oh google and its geographic differences. Although I got the correct group I had to search to find a connection to Canada. I should have updated after I wrote this as I did find it after some poking around. Thank you for answering however and excuse my lack of Canadian historical knowledge.
Odysseus Smith Google,... ahh yes. Glad you found what you are looking for. It's important to know that the "Fenians" were a pan-Irish group with members all over... The US having a huge Irish population, it stands to reason that there would have been Fenian activity there.
The MkIII Snider-Enfield had a short service life due to the poor infantrymen getting confused, dropping, and breaking all of them! Seriously though, the backdrop at the end was just stunning.
Cheers!
I'm so appreciative of you sharing your apparently encyclopaedic knowledge. Enjoy your humor and naturally the background pipes as well. Many thanks!
You are most welcome!
Hey Britishmuzzleloaders, have you ever been to the Halifax Citadel and seen any of the drill and uniforms? If so what do you think of the quality of drill and neatness of the uniforms?
I have. They do a good job. There are some things that I believe are embellishments and deviations over the historical but in general a solid representation of garrison life of the mid 1800s. They use the command "Fire" though... wasn't in use at that time... and they march at the Advance everywhere, which wasn't the case so much... The Slope would have been the most common to cover distance.
What mountains are those behind you in the thumbnail?
Big, snow-capped ones.... :-)...... they are in BC
The sniper was popular In NZ and Australia
Indeed all over the Emipre.
britishmuzzleloaders I think they preferred the carbine down here for the constabulary
Find it funny how many ways standing as ease was done.
British.
Right foot back, right hand on top.
US/csa - army regulations (parade - rest)
Right foot back, left hand on top.
Danish:
right foot forward, left hand on top
and all achieving the same thing... :-)
yep. The different drill books do things differently... but at the same time they are very much the same. And that make sense considering that they are for similar weapons and the human body is the same.
And when one remember that this is for use during combat and that every movement should be done with a minimum of effort... then it all make sense... and is generally well thought out and an effective system.
(and if something don't make sense, Iam very likely not doing it correct or some other thing is an issue. like using an enfield for danish drill...)
This is the best channel on TH-cam.
Where did you get the webbing used in the video?
Webbing? Details of the equipment used here can be had in Part Three of the Kit Series on the Channel.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Oh alright thank you.
A savage wee beastie indeed! The little fluffball challenged the British Empire with that move!
“Look out, that “kitty’s” dynamite! Now shut up and go and change your armour”
Rob, what was the tune at the beginning? Felt like I should know it, but I couldn't place a name.
"My Native Highland Home"
Was the sling used much? I'm assuming only in informal settings like a long road march.
There was an movement and command "Sling Arms" but I have not included it here... rifle was carried muzzle-down.
Watching those drills, and such, I cannot help but be reminded of my own military service (U.S. Army, 1971-1974), and be aware of the difference in drills. One of the biggest differences being the fact that in many of the evolutions you illustrated you used just a single hand, whereas most U.S. Army evolutions involved two hands on the rifle whenever moving it. Have you made/could you make a similar video talking about the modern British/Canadian drills?
Also, I have recently become aware of the Rudyerd Kipling poem "Route Marching", talking about marching across the Grand Trunk Road in India on relief. Could you talk about that sort of thing, and what the British Soldier would have gone through while on march?
I have not made Drill Videos of modern weapons. I don't own any. The whole drill bit is included simply to round out the "military application" of the rifles in use on the Channel,.... you know, to put things in a certain context. As for the route marching.....I can cover that right here,....... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,.... I hate dust,...... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,,...... oh look, a rain storm is coming... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,..... are we there yet?,.... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,.... I can't wait for our 10 minutes rest per hour,..... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,.... God I feel like I'm on my chinstrap...... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,.... I am leaving the Army at the first opportunity... Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left,
LOL!!! Thanks for the reply
Hi Rob, great video. Must have been cold s hell. I also want to let you know that I'm so close to getting my British Snider MK III I can taste it. My first choice is a 3 band but a sweet carbine was just listed, so that if I dont get the rifle I may find myself compelled to purchase the carbine. I lost out on a Canadian Snider by napping this after noon. Yep a real nap. That was dumb. But I have to give you the credit for this bug that has bitten me. Thanks my friend, again excellent video, loved the cat at the end.
Either way, you'll end up with both so it really doesn't matter... :-) The Snider is a great rifle to shoot,..... a bit temperamental, but easy to load for and there will be a good deal of work up so you'll have a great project to last a while!.. Cheers.
britishmuzzleloaders OH NO, HAHAHAHA. Lets see now, a Jager .54 cal, a Peabody Martini .43 cal, a Martini in .44 mag, (not including the 45/70 Sharps & Trapdoor) all because of you if my wife is around. Hahaha And now adding 2 British Snider .577's. I'm in the dog house now. ;D
I'm embarrassed to admit I had to look up "Fenian"; they weren't mentioned in 9th grade Washington State history.
Siesta Time Yep, only lesson taught of Canada was the Pig War; possibly the most expensive Canadian bacon in recorded history.
A very seminal moment in Canadian history.... sadly due to the fact that it doesn't fit in with the political agenda, it is often overlooked... The Invasion/Raids, helped to precipitate Confederation and were a major impetus in pushing the railway west.
Always a fine show sir. I have two of those fine beasites myself.
Cheers.
I never realised how micro managed nearly every aspect of a soldiers actions was. There seems to be a drill for absolutely everything in and out of combat. I wonder how much of these drill are variations of military drill handed down through the years and adapted from melee weaponry to rifles?
Pike commands from the English Civil War. www.luckhardt.com/ecwsa60.html
Interesting that these drill have been "handed down" over all those years. Thanks for the answer. :)
Is your tunic getting a bit tight?
I prefer the term "short arsed"...
Not what I meant,I was talking about the shots in the garden! (Be carefully what you eat)nobody can do anything about their height!
That intro.
Always a good day for historical instruction from BML. Awesome channel !
Thanks!
britishmuzzleloaders A new pair of furry mittens in next instalment? 😿
Can't have those kinds of things around, the cats love stealing them...
Trust my missus to notice you got a tattoo on your leg, is it regulation ?
Can we not make one off payments to patreon, or is it a sign up monthly only thing ?
If regulation means "got under a set of steps in Budapest"?... .Yes.... Patreon is a monthly type subscription... If you are interested in helping the Channel then you can pledge for a given amount per month and cancel after your desired amount is reached as an option. Anything helps greatly. Thank you for considering!
lol , ahh I see about Patreon, you have helped me a lot both in questions answered and entertainment and knowledge of your videos, and would like to give a small something back.
Huzza! A new video... with extra drill. Well made, Sir!
Direkt di Fahne gseh. Its good to know a fellow cantonmen watch such magnificent videos.
Thank you!
Horray for Berne!!! Horray for history!!!
Top video mate.
Thank you!
Number one field punishment tied to a gun carriage at dawn; I'm glad he's not in my platoon.
In your "section or company", you mean.... platoons didn't exist until 1913... :-) Sorry, I couldn't help myself....
How many men per section and company?
Close to 100 in a Company by the book... Realistically, 20 men to a section with four sections in a Company for about 80 men.... 8 companies in a battalion for about 650 700 men in the Battalion. These numbers were never exact.
For not asking permission to speak you can tell that sergeant that you love him more than you love me. ( Zulu dawn)
Snider time! XD
Yup!
britishmuzzleloaders You're inspiring me to finally reload that Snider brass of mine again lol
Nice! Your rifle will thank you!
britishmuzzleloaders I forgot to properly clean the brass afterwards, though :(, and now I'm kind of scared it won't be safe to reload lol.
How long ago did you shoot it?... If it's only a matter of months, it'll be OK,.. Just clean it and carry on.
Good luck in the Commonwealth games , the shooting will be at the Belmont range www.gc2018.com/venue/belmont-shooting-centre , don't worry , being the host nation we'll try not to embarrass you too much lol
Haha!
You should get a Victoria cross for your heroism against the savage wee beastie!
Maybe just an MM.... haha!
It's "fenian", not feinian or fienian
Yes of course... Another typo..
Took the time to do a little reading up on that