Quick tip I learned and used before - run chain over an old tire on a rim that is placed right next to stump. This converts your horizontal pulling force to vertical. I've pulled out smaller stumps this way with no digging and cutting. Since you have a much bigger tractor it will work well for you. Also helps to soak area around stump so soil is more like mud. Helps roots come out easier.
I have a 18 wheeler metal rim just for that and use a wire which grips the bark. Also if the ground is wet, the process is much easier and more so on less than 50hp tractors.
I did a dozen like this in my back yard . I left my stumps about 5' tall for more leverage and pulled them out with my 2 wheel drive F150. Worked real well.
Leverage makes a world of difference. You can cut the rest after you get it out. I've also used something big to put under the chain next to the stump to make it pull up more instead of just horizontal.
You knew everyone would cry and moan for the chainsaw. It's just a tool. It can be sharpened, cleaned, repaired,or thrown away. I never understood why a chainsaw is considered a holy object by youtubers.
They are just repeating what they heard before. They don't actually know why it is bad or how bad or even if it is really bad. Not through experience anyway. Me and my grandfather used to harvest peet to dry for wood burning. Guess what we used? Yep. The old chainsaw. We had this saw for fifteen years. Alternating with cutting peet in the summer and firewood for the winter. We had zero issues. Zero.
It is a Big Thank you for person I've just seen now doing the cutting of Tree Stump removal which inspire or give me some ideas of how to do the same technique for my backyard stunt Tree for many years trouble past without anybody care to attempt make it felt down and I'm really glad to watch you on my screen now at exactly 14:37 p:m 22/09/2018. Regards, Sule Shangodoyin.
I guess you've been beat up enough about cutting dirt with a chainsaw, and not cutting the stump so short, and jerking on a slack chain with with a tractor, and not burning out the stump, and not using a reciprocating saw.... Etc, etc, etc. Lots of free advice! Hindsight is 20/20. I'm glad you got the stump out and didn't get injured along the way.
Agreed. I wonder if the quote from the professional was more than a new chainsaw gloves and a tractor. And it's not hindsight to people who know what to do in the first place.
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You done fine.....there is no "wrong way" to remove stumps. Every stump is different, and everybody thinks different! What works or progresses forth is what is important. We have removed many stumps here on this property and mostly by hand tools and 4x4 chevy and every stump required different approaches. The outcome makes it all worthwhile.
Suggestion: Laying a blanket across chain/rope/strap about 1/2 way between stump and tractor prevents the snapping back of the chain/rope/strap if they break. Cleared 20 acres of stumps back in the early 1960s and had several ropes and chains break and the blanket trick works!
One tip I would suggest is that cut a notch near the top of the stump and put the chain in the notch rather than down by the roots. This would provide greater leverage when pulling with your tractor.
Oak trees do have some really tough tap roots. One time I tried digging a small oak up. It was at least a foot high. It didn't come up so easy. The tap roots seemed to be as deep as the tree was tall. It's a hard job getting those trees up and out. Roots spread quickly. They are slow growing but roots go deep. Thought you did a pretty good job, it takes practice and God knows if we didn't practice we would never learn anything, right. God bless you Sir and may your next tree stump be removed swift and easy.
Roots don't go deep. No roots below 2.5 feet. Try using an excavator for a while and dig 4 foot ditches. You will find no roots below 3 feet and almost none below 2.5 feet. Doesn't matter oak, maple, pine, there is no oxygen below 3 feet and roots need oxygen.
I've done that many times with my chain saws. At $6 to sharpen a chain its well worth cutting 3-4 stumps out. I've burned out quite a few too. Now I'm trying to rot one out with 1/2 of a 55 gallon barrel (open at both ends) around it & filled with topsoil. Lots of fun and satisfaction.
Next time just leave the stump 3’ higher and the additional leverage will let it pop right out. Also recommend using a a large spud or old fashion straight bar post hole digger to smash through roots and break up the hold the center stump had in the dirt. Very easy
Right on Pete B. You are brave enough to post this so probably big enough a man to take the criticism. Now the harvest of many great comments. The only thing I would add is a guard of some kind behind where your sitting. Oh and when you take the best advice offered here, make sure your chain is plenty long enough when you take that taller purchase.
I have cleared lots of trees, and after much experimenting, I have found you can NEVER pull a tree upwards... so I simply use LEVERAGE to pull the stump out SIDEWAYS.... I cut the stump about three feet off ground, then PUSH with the loader away, then hook chain AS HIGH UP AS POSSIBLE for leverage, then back up... Works like a charm, no jerking with chain or digging or chainsawing.... Bigger trees I pushed back and forth a few times. I learned that after a good rain, tree stumps are way easier to pull out, so you can soak your ground with a garden hose if possible...
Outstanding tree removal example. I am attempting to remove two trees just a bit smaller. The root are really deep and growing near the foundation of masonry and house foundation. I am going to get a crow bar to try and get underneath the exposed roots. Trying to shovel underneath the thicker roots is a great pain.
I’m happy that the chain didn’t part and smack you in the back of the head. Never “shock-load” a chain by giving it slack and then jerking on it. You had the right idea by cutting the roots, however trees have one main root that goes straight down as well that needs to be cut. I do the same thing you did, except I use my garden hose to clean the roots before I use my chain saw on them.
If you had filled the stump hole with water & left it for a few days, topping up the water regularly, the stump and its tap root will move more easily. I was digging ditches on the M1 in England and we had a small tree in the middle of a ditch & my mate told me to cut the roots, as you did, and leave it overnight. What do you know! The damn tree was over in the morning.
Good job. The stump is out. Goal attained. I helped my dad when I was a kid take out several fairly large trees and he taught me with a bit of patience and perseverence a big tree can be uprooted fairly easy. He had an axe that he didn't care about getting dull and he'd dig around the roots as you did and take the old axe and cut the roots close up to the stump and then cut them again at least a shovel's width (or more) from the first cut. This allowed that section of root to be removed to give room to continue to dig and espose other roots beneath. Another thing he told me, never cut the tree down if you plan to remove the stump from the ground. The tree provides a lot of leverage especially if it is fairlly large. We didn't have any equipment other than an old ax, a shovel and a grubbing hoe (similar to a maddock) and we removed many large trees. Once he got the tree to start leaning, gravity started playing a huge part. Then we would cut the stump from the tree and burn them. Sometimes we'd attempt to burn a stump 3 or 4 times before it would completely burn but eventually it would get dry enough to.burn all up. I've seen stumps burn for 10 or 12 days before they would be all gone.
Get her done! I have a similar stump in my backyard orchard that needs to be removed, my tractor is smaller TO35 Ferguson However that shovel does not fit my hands very well, I might try digging around the stump with my subsoiler, Then use an old almost worn out chain on the chainsaw, I tried just pulling it out, chain around the top of the trunk for more leverage, but no go, so far, Need a few blasting sticks!
Honestly I didn't have the room on the opposite side to pull, but after my first failed pull I realized that it did have more roots and probably a tap root. I was amazed at how a small stump with most of it's roots cut was able to hold back a 7000+ pound 4x4 tractor in low gear.
Everyone is some kind of expert. Bottom line is you got it done! I have 23 stumps to clear. Some the size of yours, others much larger, no one single method is best for my chore. Thanks for sharing!
Pete B... I am an " old stump puller " from way back! Where is that excavator when you need one! There are a bunch of good comments here btw... First off, hats off to Bryan down below, " A Moment Of Silence " for that poor chainsaw... LOL!! This is a classic example of why I NEVER throw out my old worn down chains & bars and even then I resharpen them for this kind of work. The other point I would make is dig out those roots better & thoroughly brush them off first [ completely around the root ] or hose them off before you even remotely consider putting a chainsaw on them! Next item of interest here is the height of the stump itself, not enough leverage height here. I'm at the 6:57 mark of this video as I type this, so I will stop here. :-) I'm still giving you a thumbs up btw, for effort! Bill Farr...
Pete B... Obviously you dedicated the saw's bar & chain to ruination for this project. At around the 13 minute mark when you made the horizontal cut through all that dirt, I was certain it would come out as it did just that. Dan Theman below has clearly illustrated a solid procedure on this as I gave him thumbs up #50... With that short stump you left yourself, I would have cut a deep notch a few inches below the top & set the pulling chain in it for the extra leverage. You got it out of the ground, mission accomplished! Bill Farr... :-)
William Farr Thanks, I honestly thought I would be able to cut the roots around the stump but soon realized it had a tap root or a root going straight down. I resharpened the chain and use it only for the nasty stuff. I've learned a lot since then from reading all the wonderful comments 😁
ive done quite a few of these in my time. For future reference you always want to wrap the chain on itself so the more you pull the more tension is put on the wrapped chain and also hook it as close as possible to the tree. I do agree with the chain saw chain. cheap enough for a new one or just sharpen it.
Very dangerous to jerk the chain like that! I've seen heavy logging chains snap when jerked. If it does snap it'll fly straight towards the back of your head! Also, no need to ruin a saw chain; just chop the roots with a mattock.
@@hyzercreek Perhaps I should have said "break" rather than "snap". I had a logging chain break when I was attempting to pull out a stump. The chain was attached to tow hooks in the front of my truck, and I was pulling in reverse. When the chain broke, it hit the front of my hood, leaving a deep dent. If it had been a few inches higher, it could have come through the windshield and killed me. Let my experience be a lesson.
One last thought, Pete. If you could find a tow-truck for cheap. A long time ago, we pulled a big tree out with a crane. This was a big tree. 40 to 60 feet high. Plucked it out like a flower. Sweet. Keep "pluckin".
One thing I notice which was dangerous was the sudden jolt-yank on the chain. With the nothing to deflect and protect your back and head, had that chain popped on the trunk's end, it could have very-well reached and whiplashed you on the back side. Seriously injuring, or even killing you. These are the dangerous we tend to overlook when caught-up in the heat of the moment. And these dangers are most prevalent when (via our recordings) we know millions of people will may soon be watching.
The chain was low enough so if it did snap it would most likely hit the back of the box blade. But I understand what your saying.....I won't be pulling stumps out like this again....Thanks for your comment.
Yep, broke a 5/8" logging chain behind a dual tire John Deere 4449 Tractor just yesterday, unlike cheap polyester rope that will stretccccchhhhh and kawghap! upside your head....chain can be used here also, simply drape a length of chain over the rope after applying a little tension, wet burlap sacks, if nothing else, lay some branches over it, hooking them by a small branch will be enough to stop the recoil. We were tying up a large (180') Coast Guard Cutter on the lee side of a pier when the wind was howling on the Thames river, we got one of the dock lines over to a handler on the pier who made it fast on a large bolllard then very wisely ran away when that line started singing. When the ship was blown off and the mooring was aborted, the tattletales (Short pieces of smaller line braided into a larger line to warn of and "Tell" that a line has been overstretched and now lacks the rated strength) started popping on that 3 inch Samson (Double braided nylon) ...when that hawser finally parted it took out a 2" steel pipe that was part of a structural boat lift. If it would have hit a person it would have been a catastrophe, think 200lb. bullwhip. ...Be careful out there, ESPECIALLY pulling stuff with a tractor, it will walk up and roll over on you faster than you can say improperly rigged. I do like the "Wheelie Bar" aka box scraper this guy was using, more people are killed on a tractor during an improperly rigged pull or side hill roll-over. A Mattock is the tool most useful in stump removal, think pick axe with one side as sharp as an axe for cutting roots, the pick end for digging up dirt and rocks in tight quarters....i like the guy who said bow saw, way less expensive than ruining a 20 dollar chainsaw blade in the dirt.
If he has the money to replace the chain and bar after a few stump removals...more power to him. No expensive stump grinder required. Great job man. For the time spent and the tools used I say you did a great job. Bravo ZULU. Oh yeah...please take the plastic off the saw handle and use some gloves. Great job on the safety glasses. Did not see if you had ear plugs. Overall a great use of time and money.
I see a guy learning all about stumps in this video. I've been there myself and found other means, but digging and chopping is about all you can do by yourself without equipment. Chainsaws hate dirt; a good sharp ax would have been a better choice. I think a grinder is a good option for most stump removals. The appropriate machinery is neither affordable or friendly to the lawn.
Thanks Steven, I grew up in Michigan myself and spent many summers on the west side from Silver lake down to Holland Michigan. The west side is much nicer in my opinion.
Hey Pete, It's been 3 years since this video was ran. The only suggestion I got for future stump jobs, is the dirt around the stump you had to cut threw with chainsaw, give a pressure washer a try. Your chains may last a bet longer, you well know the value of not mixing dirt and chainsaw. Good job on getting that stump, gone. 👍 👍 And I've watched this one a few times in the past. God Speed, and God Bless you and all farmers,,,,,,, Semper Fi
Instead of cutting it down attach the chain high up and the extra leverage would have pulled it straight out! NEVER use a chainsaw like that, chain, bar and sprocket will all be knackered now!
Chainsaw can take the punishment.just clean when done.if dirt is dug out thetes no worries.ive used saw in and around dirt.just clean after using. That simple.
Why? I've seen alot of chain-stump-fail clips where a highly attached chain will only lift the driving wheels of the ground when stretched and grip is lost.
Interesting video. Pulled more than my share of stumps back in the day. Our method included winding the chain around the stump and exposed roots. This resulted in a twisting of the stump as we pulled forward. This was a pretty effective way to remove the stump.
I use the same method but without the chainsaw and tractor. Dig around the stump to reveal the roots. Then use and axe (chainsaws dont like soil/dirt) to cut through the roots but take a section of each root out so it has room to move. Also leave a taller stem or trunk to give yourself leverage. A bit of elbow grease and boom, out it comes.
If you have a fairly clear area try digging around, cutting roots and push/pull tree over before cutting/topping . The extra weight at top will work to pop stump out of the ground. Works well with pine trees.
Good job, saw chain was ment to be sharpened, no big deal, 2 things though, I had close calls with chain flying back at my head, need a guard and ........stump removal always involves beer, need a 12 pack on tractor.
Placing a large concrete tile (3ft diameter or so) next to the stump, with chain running over top of tile to tractor will give significant upward force in addition to your horizontal force. Soaking ground overnight with hose would make stump extraction easier. Glad you didn’t experience an injury as is a little more common with “lunges” on the tractor and chain vs a hard steady pull.
Pete I never saw so many people concerned about a chain on a chainsaw . if you knew that your were going to remove the stump before the tree was cut down it would have been to your advantage to use the weight of the tree to up root the stump would have dug on the one side of the tree that you were going to push front and cut the roots on that side of stump raised bucket on front of tractor ant pushed tree over cut tree from stump then finished pulling it out to cut the roots I would have used a chain for saw that was worn out but I had many chains or used an axes. For what you had and first time you did a great job
As an 8-10 year-old kid in the late 1940’s, my Dad sent me out to pull stumps in a several-acre clearing job with a chain, axe, a Farmall A, and a wagon. He didn’t give me any instructions, he just let me figure things out. He didn’t watch either, but I knew if I yanked his chain I’d catch hell. I set up the choker pretty much the way you did, Pete, but sometimes I would take another turn around the roots and stump. That was probably because I didn’t know what I was doing. I used an axe; we couldn’t afford a chain saw, and he probably wouldn’t have let me use it anyway-but he did trust me with the axe--were lightweight chain saws even available in those days? I don't remember ever seeing one. I guess McCulloch was making something along that line--I just don't know. I carried a sharpening stone. Do you carry a rig to sharpen your chain? You might be surprised at what a sharp axe can do, and you don’t need earmuffs. I sure appreciate your showing me what the root system on a live-oak can look like. Did you happen to measure the root diameters and compare them to the trunk diameter? It looks to be around ten inches in the video. Keep up the good work! What kind of camera setup do you use?
I never fight with stumps. But I don’t have a nice tractor like yours. Or I may be tempted. After I cut a tired down, I just spray it with brush killer I get from Tractor Supply. Smaller trees up to four inches I just kick them over with my foot. The roots brake off and stay in the ground. The bigger ones I cut even with the ground and just let them rot away. After the brush killer dries. I have found it doesn’t bother the surrounding ground. But I wouldn’t use it on a garden either. Good luck
I've never seen a person intentionally run a chainsaw through the dirt like that? The key is to remove the dirt. A shop vac works wonders. FYI, they make carbide root blades for your sawzall.
I always use the same 3 simple tools when removing tree stumps; *my neighbors: "Moe, Larry, and Curly."* Joking aside; I'd like to say this: *we all know that theres always a "right/wrong/better/best" way to do pretty much anything;* apparently most people here *didn't apply that idea regarding how they talk to others.*
Me before watching: 'Never touch the dirt with the chainsaw chain while cutting. Don't even think about using a chainsaw to cut roots!' Me after watching and reading comments: 'Oh, I actually can cut roots with the chainsaw - just will need to sharpen the chain afterwards or will just sacrifice it - no big deal'. Planning to use this technique with my stumps.
Reminds me of an ol' dentist tryin to pull my tooth😬 Oh! Can I borrow your saw when your done? I need to run a water line out to the barn and I need to bury it 'bout 3'.
My next-door neighbour had a 50 ft Silver Birch tree in his back garden, which he had cut down to the stump at ground level. He dug away the soil revealing the main roots, then a guy came with a four-legged gadget that stood over the stump. And a massive circular saw edged power cutter, was lowered down, which bored out all the stump wood, and the roots were easily pulled out. I've never seen one since.
I 3rd this. The long Diablo carbide sawsall blades are the best bar none to hack roots. I have dealt with some serious stumps. A tip is too clear as much soil around the root. Plus i use lubricant, like wd-40 or gel lube with a straw to spray the cut and blade. Sometimes i use grease, just slather on the blade a couple times during the cut, helps a lot
Come on guys, he was too busy dulling the crap out of that blade to worry about how loose it was. I try to never let my chain come in contact with dirt or sand, dulls it instantly.
I pulled 4 stumps using a sawzall with 12" blade a 5 pack is about 18.00..they weighed in at average 400 lbs apiece. I also used a probe to find leaders and a 6ft prybar with 8 ft pipe and that would let me know if there were more leaders i missed. Then i bolted my short chain to the stump and anchored my come along on the nearest stump or tree..I pulled 4 out averaging about 2 hrs per stump..The sawzall was perfect for that kind of job.. The ground is very soft and damp this rainy spring which was a big plus.
Page 6:50 the branch root in the soil pushes back at its counter part of the trunk thus defeated the pull effort. Try two cuts per root branch to see it pull off.
I set a stump on fire and layed an old tire on it, fit the stump perfectly. kept getting up through the night to ck for any problems, none fortunately. next morning all I had was a hole and the wire left from the tire. it even burnt the roots out through the ground, had trenches where the roots ran. worked quite well.
Alan Gill - With a tractor that size, all it would accomplish would be bending the lower edge of the bucket and maybe bending the loader arms or a hydraulic piston ...and the trump would still be there. This guy was determined, he got it done and may have to replace the chain if it’s too far gone. So what? It’s his tool.
Is that some special chain that enables you cut in the dirt? If you have a chain saw and a tractor, you probably have a reciprocating saw too. Use that next time. It's alot easier and cheaper to replace that blade than it is to replace the chain. And take that plastic off the top grip. It makes for an unsafe grip of the saw. And readjust your grip. Get your thumb wrapped around the grip.
How to make a chain blunt AF in 60 secs. I have cut exposed roots in the ground but only after I have cleaned off where I am making a cut with a pressure washer.
tarmacsurfers It looks like he went out a bought a brand new chainsaw for the job (ie: never used one before). He may have had to buy a shovel as well. Oop, brand new chain too. And a new tractor ???? OK, just saw the channel name. It all makes sense.
This guy is a idiot needs a new chainsaw blade, should have bumped it back and forth with the scrap blade and pull straight up on it using a large old tractor wheel or long green log 5or6 ft.stand it up put chain on top and move out of your same tractor tracks you're digging a hole with your tires and making it twice as hard to come up.thats why you say I'm going to pull a stump up ^^^not sideways. Pull it up with your lift on your tractor if it's got enough ass ,that's the first thing you check when you buy a tractor is lift capacity they vary tremendously.
Robert Reichwein He might be special, but additionally he is knowledgeable on this subject. It's better to learn from his comment than to get your feelings hurt.
I did much of this same stuff, minus using a chain saw, and tractor. ( The stumps are still there ! LOL ! I am an older woman, and I put a lot of effort in those stumps ! )
Quick tip I learned and used before - run chain over an old tire on a rim that is placed right next to stump. This converts your horizontal pulling force to vertical. I've pulled out smaller stumps this way with no digging and cutting. Since you have a much bigger tractor it will work well for you. Also helps to soak area around stump so soil is more like mud. Helps roots come out easier.
NutmegThumper Good info thank you.
I was about to say the same thing. 🤙
I have a 18 wheeler metal rim just for that and use a wire which grips the bark. Also if the ground is wet, the process is much easier and more so on less than 50hp tractors.
Next time I have a similar project I'll just make a video of what I'm GOING to do, and then wait for the "experts" to tell me exactly how to do it!
I did a dozen like this in my back yard . I left my stumps about 5' tall for more leverage and pulled them out with my 2 wheel drive F150. Worked real well.
Leverage makes a world of difference. You can cut the rest after you get it out. I've also used something big to put under the chain next to the stump to make it pull up more instead of just horizontal.
@@joetolopino7126 tire and wheel work well
Easy.
Anyone who works that hard to remove a stump deserves a thumbs up...
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You knew everyone would cry and moan for the chainsaw. It's just a tool. It can be sharpened, cleaned, repaired,or thrown away. I never understood why a chainsaw is considered a holy object by youtubers.
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They are just repeating what they heard before. They don't actually know why it is bad or how bad or even if it is really bad. Not through experience anyway. Me and my grandfather used to harvest peet to dry for wood burning. Guess what we used? Yep. The old chainsaw. We had this saw for fifteen years. Alternating with cutting peet in the summer and firewood for the winter. We had zero issues. Zero.
They're not holy, a good one is expensive, and you don't destroy a good tool.
It is a Big Thank you for person I've just seen now doing the cutting of Tree Stump removal which inspire or give me some ideas of how to do the same technique for my backyard stunt Tree for many years trouble past without anybody care to attempt make it felt down and I'm really glad to watch you on my screen now at exactly 14:37 p:m 22/09/2018.
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Sule Shangodoyin.
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I guess you've been beat up enough about cutting dirt with a chainsaw, and not cutting the stump so short, and jerking on a slack chain with with a tractor, and not burning out the stump, and not using a reciprocating saw.... Etc, etc, etc. Lots of free advice! Hindsight is 20/20. I'm glad you got the stump out and didn't get injured along the way.
Barry L, My friend I think you have the right perspective. Great comment.
I do it this way only after all the horizontal roots are cut I load the hole with water and wait awhile. They pop out like a cork.
Agreed. I wonder if the quote from the professional was more than a new chainsaw gloves and a tractor. And it's not hindsight to people who know what to do in the first place.
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lots of work,nice clean work,good job!
You done fine.....there is no "wrong way" to remove stumps. Every stump is different, and everybody thinks different! What works or progresses forth is what is important. We have removed many stumps here on this property and mostly by hand tools and 4x4 chevy and every stump required different approaches. The outcome makes it all worthwhile.
Other than the fact he done messed up his damn chain, there goes 30 minutes
Suggestion: Laying a blanket across chain/rope/strap about 1/2 way between stump and tractor prevents the snapping back of the chain/rope/strap if they break. Cleared 20 acres of stumps back in the early 1960s and had several ropes and chains break and the blanket trick works!
you did excellent! I would have drag that stump around on a victory lap! ha ha lol enjoyed the video!
One tip I would suggest is that cut a notch near the top of the stump and put the chain in the notch rather than down by the roots. This would provide greater leverage when pulling with your tractor.
Ignore the "Know it Alls " thing is you got the job done yourself.Well done.
He asked
Got to love chainsaws the blade is already loose and the chain is probably dead from barely hitting the dirt....
Oak trees do have some really tough tap roots. One time I tried digging a small oak up.
It was at least a foot high. It didn't come up so easy. The tap roots seemed to be as deep as the tree was tall.
It's a hard job getting those trees up and out. Roots spread quickly. They are slow growing but roots go deep.
Thought you did a pretty good job, it takes practice and God knows if we didn't practice we would never learn anything, right.
God bless you Sir and may your next tree stump be removed swift and easy.
Roots don't go deep. No roots below 2.5 feet. Try using an excavator for a while and dig 4 foot ditches. You will find no roots below 3 feet and almost none below 2.5 feet. Doesn't matter oak, maple, pine, there is no oxygen below 3 feet and roots need oxygen.
Great video, shows a man getting to use his chain saw and a tractor, every mans dream.
I'd like to have a moment of silence for that poor chainsaw chain, may it rest in piece.
+Bryan Yeah I know, I had to sharpen the chain after but it beats me cutting the roots under the stump by hand.
And fairly loose at that.
Bryan Hear Hear. I felt the same pain in my heart. It cried buckets.
Sawzall is the best way to cut roots
Always wear a safety helmet ,chain breaks no head
I've done that many times with my chain saws. At $6 to sharpen a chain its well worth cutting 3-4 stumps out. I've burned out quite a few too. Now I'm trying to rot one out with 1/2 of a 55 gallon barrel (open at both ends) around it & filled with topsoil. Lots of fun and satisfaction.
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Next time just leave the stump 3’ higher and the additional leverage will let it pop right out. Also recommend using a a large spud or old fashion straight bar post hole digger to smash through roots and break up the hold the center stump had in the dirt. Very easy
Right on Pete B. You are brave enough to post this so probably big enough a man to take the criticism. Now the harvest of many great comments. The only thing I would add is a guard of some kind behind where your sitting. Oh and when you take the best advice offered here, make sure your chain is plenty long enough when you take that taller purchase.
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I have cleared lots of trees, and after much experimenting, I have found you can NEVER pull a tree upwards... so I simply use LEVERAGE to pull the stump out SIDEWAYS....
I cut the stump about three feet off ground, then PUSH with the loader away, then hook chain AS HIGH UP AS POSSIBLE for leverage, then back up... Works like a charm, no jerking with chain or digging or chainsawing.... Bigger trees I pushed back and forth a few times. I learned that after a good rain, tree stumps are way easier to pull out, so you can soak your ground with a garden hose if possible...
my thoughts exactly.
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First smart comment i've read today.
Outstanding tree removal example. I am attempting to remove two trees just a bit smaller. The root are really deep and growing near the foundation of masonry and house foundation. I am going to get a crow bar to try and get underneath the exposed roots. Trying to shovel underneath the thicker roots is a great pain.
Fine job, no more stump . I hope you have a got a wonderful garden .
You should have left several feet more of the tree trunk so that there would be more leverage.
That's exactly what I was thinking, why does everyone cut the tree so low and lose all that potential leverage ?
@@bradgingrich4505 Not everyone.. especially when working alone :-)
I’m happy that the chain didn’t part and smack you in the back of the head. Never “shock-load” a chain by giving it slack and then jerking on it. You had the right idea by cutting the roots, however trees have one main root that goes straight down as well that needs to be cut. I do the same thing you did, except I use my garden hose to clean the roots before I use my chain saw on them.
If you had filled the stump hole with water & left it for a few days, topping up the water regularly, the stump and its tap root will move more easily. I was digging ditches on the M1 in England and we had a small tree in the middle of a ditch & my mate told me to cut the roots, as you did, and leave it overnight. What do you know! The damn tree was over in the morning.
Hmmm, I could see that working.
Wow!!!! I’m amazed by all the free advice from all these tree experts!!!! Oops!!! I meant sarcasm!! My bad!!!
Good job. The stump is out. Goal attained. I helped my dad when I was a kid take out several fairly large trees and he taught me with a bit of patience and perseverence a big tree can be uprooted fairly easy. He had an axe that he didn't care about getting dull and he'd dig around the roots as you did and take the old axe and cut the roots close up to the stump and then cut them again at least a shovel's width (or more) from the first cut. This allowed that section of root to be removed to give room to continue to dig and espose other roots beneath.
Another thing he told me, never cut the tree down if you plan to remove the stump from the ground. The tree provides a lot of leverage especially if it is fairlly large. We didn't have any equipment other than an old ax, a shovel and a grubbing hoe (similar to a maddock) and we removed many large trees. Once he got the tree to start leaning, gravity started playing a huge part. Then we would cut the stump from the tree and burn them. Sometimes we'd attempt to burn a stump 3 or 4 times before it would completely burn but eventually it would get dry enough to.burn all up. I've seen stumps burn for 10 or 12 days before they would be all gone.
Interesting. I bet your dad didn't ruin his chain while doing it like this guy.
Get her done! I have a similar stump in my backyard orchard that needs to be removed, my tractor is smaller TO35 Ferguson
However that shovel does not fit my hands very well, I might try digging around the stump with my subsoiler,
Then use an old almost worn out chain on the chainsaw,
I tried just pulling it out, chain around the top of the trunk for more leverage, but no go, so far,
Need a few blasting sticks!
After the first attempt failed, before I did more digging, I would have tried pulling from several different angles. 180 degrees 1st, opposite side.
Honestly I didn't have the room on the opposite side to pull, but after my first failed pull I realized that it did have more roots and probably a tap root. I was amazed at how a small stump with most of it's roots cut was able to hold back a 7000+ pound 4x4 tractor in low gear.
Everyone is some kind of expert. Bottom line is you got it done! I have 23 stumps to clear. Some the size of yours, others much larger, no one single method is best for my chore. Thanks for sharing!
No experts just common sense.
I happened to have automatic closed captions enabled when I watched this video. it translated the revving of your chainsaw as "yeah". 😂
That's cool :)
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@@petebeasttexashomesteading bj I j in u
Pete B... I am an " old stump puller " from way back! Where is that excavator when you need one! There are a bunch of good comments here btw... First off, hats off to Bryan down below, " A Moment Of Silence " for that poor chainsaw... LOL!!
This is a classic example of why I NEVER throw out my old worn down chains & bars and even then I resharpen them for this kind of work. The other point I would make is dig out those roots better & thoroughly brush them off first [ completely around the root ] or hose them off before you even remotely consider putting a chainsaw on them!
Next item of interest here is the height of the stump itself, not enough leverage height here. I'm at the 6:57 mark of this video as I type this, so I will stop here. :-) I'm still giving you a thumbs up btw, for effort!
Bill Farr...
Pete B... Obviously you dedicated the saw's bar & chain to ruination for this project. At around the 13 minute mark when you made the horizontal cut through all that dirt, I was certain it would come out as it did just that.
Dan Theman below has clearly illustrated a solid procedure on this as I gave him thumbs up #50...
With that short stump you left yourself, I would have cut a deep notch a few inches below the top & set the pulling chain in it for the extra leverage.
You got it out of the ground, mission accomplished!
Bill Farr... :-)
William Farr Thanks, I honestly thought I would be able to cut the roots around the stump but soon realized it had a tap root or a root going straight down. I resharpened the chain and use it only for the nasty stuff. I've learned a lot since then from reading all the wonderful comments 😁
he do all the hard work and the tractor do the easy job just lift up the stump
ive done quite a few of these in my time. For future reference you always want to wrap the chain on itself so the more you pull the more tension is put on the wrapped chain and also hook it as close as possible to the tree. I do agree with the chain saw chain. cheap enough for a new one or just sharpen it.
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Very dangerous to jerk the chain like that! I've seen heavy logging chains snap when jerked. If it does snap it'll fly straight towards the back of your head! Also, no need to ruin a saw chain; just chop the roots with a mattock.
You are correct about the chain saw, wrong about the logging chains. Chains are not made of rubber. Ropes stretch and snap, not chains.
@@hyzercreek Perhaps I should have said "break" rather than "snap". I had a logging chain break when I was attempting to pull out a stump. The chain was attached to tow hooks in the front of my truck, and I was pulling in reverse. When the chain broke, it hit the front of my hood, leaving a deep dent. If it had been a few inches higher, it could have come through the windshield and killed me. Let my experience be a lesson.
@@hyzercreek chains stretch too before they snap/break
@@arthurbianculli5373 yeah, always lift the engine hood when you winch or pull something in front of your car.
One last thought, Pete. If you could find a tow-truck for cheap. A long time ago, we pulled a big tree out with a crane. This was a big tree. 40 to 60 feet high. Plucked it out like a flower. Sweet. Keep "pluckin".
One thing I notice which was dangerous was the sudden jolt-yank on the chain. With the nothing to deflect and protect your back and head, had that chain popped on the trunk's end, it could have very-well reached and whiplashed you on the back side. Seriously injuring, or even killing you. These are the dangerous we tend to overlook when caught-up in the heat of the moment. And these dangers are most prevalent when (via our recordings) we know millions of people will may soon be watching.
The chain was low enough so if it did snap it would most likely hit the back of the box blade. But I understand what your saying.....I won't be pulling stumps out like this again....Thanks for your comment.
Chains don't whiplash.
I agree Rob, there is no elasticity in a chain. When they break they just fall limp on the ground. Chains don't stretch.
that would have been easier for the chainsaw
Yep, broke a 5/8" logging chain behind a dual tire John Deere 4449 Tractor just yesterday, unlike cheap polyester rope that will stretccccchhhhh and kawghap! upside your head....chain can be used here also, simply drape a length of chain over the rope after applying a little tension, wet burlap sacks, if nothing else, lay some branches over it, hooking them by a small branch will be enough to stop the recoil. We were tying up a large (180') Coast Guard Cutter on the lee side of a pier when the wind was howling on the Thames river, we got one of the dock lines over to a handler on the pier who made it fast on a large bolllard then very wisely ran away when that line started singing.
When the ship was blown off and the mooring was aborted, the tattletales (Short pieces of smaller line braided into a larger line to warn of and "Tell" that a line has been overstretched and now lacks the rated strength) started popping on that 3 inch Samson (Double braided nylon) ...when that hawser finally parted it took out a 2" steel pipe that was part of a structural boat lift. If it would have hit a person it would have been a catastrophe, think 200lb. bullwhip. ...Be careful out there, ESPECIALLY pulling stuff with a tractor, it will walk up and roll over on you faster than you can say improperly rigged. I do like the "Wheelie Bar" aka box scraper this guy was using, more people are killed on a tractor during an improperly rigged pull or side hill roll-over. A Mattock is the tool most useful in stump removal, think pick axe with one side as sharp as an axe for cutting roots, the pick end for digging up dirt and rocks in tight quarters....i like the guy who said bow saw, way less expensive than ruining a 20 dollar chainsaw blade in the dirt.
If he has the money to replace the chain and bar after a few stump removals...more power to him. No expensive stump grinder required. Great job man. For the time spent and the tools used I say you did a great job. Bravo ZULU. Oh yeah...please take the plastic off the saw handle and use some gloves. Great job on the safety glasses. Did not see if you had ear plugs. Overall a great use of time and money.
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Exactly, new chain is only around 30 dollars, so.
I've been watching tree stump removal videos for an hour now. I long ago forgot why I came to yoo-toob in the first place...
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Thanks a lot for sharing this with us.. I learned a lot from you..
I see a guy learning all about stumps in this video. I've been there myself and found other means, but digging and chopping is about all you can do by yourself without equipment. Chainsaws hate dirt; a good sharp ax would have been a better choice. I think a grinder is a good option for most stump removals. The appropriate machinery is neither affordable or friendly to the lawn.
dont ruin your axe mate, rather use a junk axe and hit the root one more time.
Job well done, eventually. I was rooting for you all the way.
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Makes you wonder why any sane person would intentionally plant a tree. :)
I think you did a super job of removing the stump, very interesting to me. Thanks Hard work I can see. From Plainwell Michigan.
Thanks Steven, I grew up in Michigan myself and spent many summers on the west side from Silver lake down to Holland Michigan. The west side is much nicer in my opinion.
It's his time, money and equipment. He can do it how ever he wants. He learned more for the next time.
Right!
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@@JodBronson thats exactly how i DO it. sometimes i may use a loper if the roots arent too thick, sometimes a sawzall.....usually a chainsaw.
Hey Pete,
It's been 3 years since this video was ran. The only suggestion I got for future stump jobs, is the dirt around the stump you had to cut threw with chainsaw, give a pressure washer a try. Your chains may last a bet longer, you well know the value of not mixing dirt and chainsaw.
Good job on getting that stump, gone. 👍 👍 And I've watched this one a few times in the past.
God Speed, and God Bless you and all farmers,,,,,,,
Semper Fi
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Instead of cutting it down attach the chain high up and the extra leverage would have pulled it straight out! NEVER use a chainsaw like that, chain, bar and sprocket will all be knackered now!
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Chainsaw can take the punishment.just clean when done.if dirt is dug out thetes no worries.ive used saw in and around dirt.just clean after using. That simple.
dead right Pete. always leave the trunk and pull from higher up.
Why? I've seen alot of chain-stump-fail clips where a highly attached chain will only lift the driving wheels of the ground when stretched and grip is lost.
Could have used the loader a little lift up or remove few inches of soil or to hold dirt to put back after so much wasted machinery here
Did good nice work cuttin out stomp in ground good job hagd
Interesting video. Pulled more than my share of stumps back in the day. Our method included winding the chain around the stump and exposed roots. This resulted in a twisting of the stump as we pulled forward. This was a pretty effective way to remove the stump.
I haven't heard that one yet, it sounds like a great way to twist the tap roots apart....Thanks
Amen
I use the same method but without the chainsaw and tractor. Dig around the stump to reveal the roots. Then use and axe (chainsaws dont like soil/dirt) to cut through the roots but take a section of each root out so it has room to move. Also leave a taller stem or trunk to give yourself leverage. A bit of elbow grease and boom, out it comes.
Oh man, painful to watch, a new saw digging in the dirt like that, yikes!!!
I know but I just resharpen it plus I have extra chains and bars if needed. Thanks for watching
Those Remington saws are disposible. If it was a Stihl then there'd be something to worry about.
Jake must be a rich city feller
That rich city feller sho is a slow one. When they were passing out brains he was standing in the slow line I reckon.
I was thinking - I hope he doesn't hit the chain with the saw. But then again, it probably would not have mattered with all the dirt cutting.....
If you have a fairly clear area try digging around, cutting roots and push/pull tree over before cutting/topping . The extra weight at top will work to pop stump out of the ground. Works well with pine trees.
Good job, saw chain was ment to be sharpened, no big deal, 2 things though, I had close calls with chain flying back at my head, need a guard and ........stump removal always involves beer, need a 12 pack on tractor.
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Thank God you made it to the end of that in one piece. I was rooting for you.
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angle cut those forward roots to keep from locking up. Please use a sazall.
You have done this before! Excellent advice. I have taken out many a lot larger with a pinch bar. Took all day.
Placing a large concrete tile (3ft diameter or so) next to the stump, with chain running over top of tile to tractor will give significant upward force in addition to your horizontal force. Soaking ground overnight with hose would make stump extraction easier. Glad you didn’t experience an injury as is a little more common with “lunges” on the tractor and chain vs a hard steady pull.
FULCRUM is a key word there.
Reminds me of my last trip to the dentist
Pete I never saw so many people concerned about a chain on a chainsaw . if you knew that your were going to remove the stump before the tree was cut down it would have been to your advantage to use the weight of the tree to up root the stump would have dug on the one side of the tree that you were going to push front and cut the roots on that side of stump raised bucket on front of tractor ant pushed tree over cut tree from stump then finished pulling it out to cut the roots I would have used a chain for saw that was worn out but I had many chains or used an axes. For what you had and first time you did a great job
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Perfect example of why someone invented stump grinders.
If you want to spend all day hovering over 1 stump with a grinder then be my guest.
@@Andy-tb5pv my grinder would have ground that stump faster than he got that saw started
As an 8-10 year-old kid in the late 1940’s, my Dad sent me out to pull stumps in a several-acre clearing job with a chain, axe, a Farmall A, and a wagon. He didn’t give me any instructions, he just let me figure things out. He didn’t watch either, but I knew if I yanked his chain I’d catch hell.
I set up the choker pretty much the way you did, Pete, but sometimes I would take another turn around the roots and stump. That was probably because I didn’t know what I was doing.
I used an axe; we couldn’t afford a chain saw, and he probably wouldn’t have let me use it anyway-but he did trust me with the axe--were lightweight chain saws even available in those days? I don't remember ever seeing one. I guess McCulloch was making something along that line--I just don't know. I carried a sharpening stone. Do you carry a rig to sharpen your chain? You might be surprised at what a sharp axe can do, and you don’t need earmuffs.
I sure appreciate your showing me what the root system on a live-oak can look like. Did you happen to measure the root diameters and compare them to the trunk diameter? It looks to be around ten inches in the video.
Keep up the good work! What kind of camera setup do you use?
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Use an old tractor rim and put it under the chain, it'll lift more, and help you pull better.
It would pull it in an upward direction but I would hate to see the chain fly off and hit me :(
DGOTheResistance
I agree I keep an old wheel just for that purposes
I never fight with stumps. But I don’t have a nice tractor like yours. Or I may be tempted. After I cut a tired down, I just spray it with brush killer I get from Tractor Supply. Smaller trees up to four inches I just kick them over with my foot. The roots brake off and stay in the ground. The bigger ones I cut even with the ground and just let them rot away. After the brush killer dries. I have found it doesn’t bother the surrounding ground. But I wouldn’t use it on a garden either. Good luck
I miss the days when an average joe could go to the hardware store & buy dynamite !!
Unhinged libs can't be trusted with TNT.
Or just burn stuff.
farmers stopped using dino many moons ago.... they have fertilizer, and most tractors use diesel.....
How long ago was this?
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I've never seen a person intentionally run a chainsaw through the dirt like that? The key is to remove the dirt. A shop vac works wonders. FYI, they make carbide root blades for your sawzall.
Leave the stump real high on the next tree you cut, and wrap the chain around it way up high, lots more leverage.
happy you got that out without hurting youself..i was waiting for contact with a stone or otherwise snapping that chain cutting in the dirt...
leverage goes along way when removing stumps what you are doing is a good way to tearing up equipment
Many ways to remove a tree stump but some are more interesting to watch. I enjoyed it!
I always use the same 3 simple tools when removing tree stumps; *my neighbors: "Moe, Larry, and Curly."* Joking aside; I'd like to say this: *we all know that theres always a "right/wrong/better/best" way to do pretty much anything;* apparently most people here *didn't apply that idea regarding how they talk to others.*
Dan K, your comment/perspective here is admirable. Keep up the good work and thank you.
Me before watching: 'Never touch the dirt with the chainsaw chain while cutting. Don't even think about using a chainsaw to cut roots!'
Me after watching and reading comments: 'Oh, I actually can cut roots with the chainsaw - just will need to sharpen the chain afterwards or will just sacrifice it - no big deal'.
Planning to use this technique with my stumps.
Reminds me of an ol' dentist tryin to pull my tooth😬
Oh! Can I borrow your saw when your done?
I need to run a water line out to the barn and I need to bury it 'bout 3'.
My next-door neighbour had a 50 ft Silver Birch tree in his back garden, which he had cut down to the stump at ground level. He dug away the soil revealing the main roots, then a guy came with a four-legged gadget that stood over the stump. And a massive circular saw edged power cutter, was lowered down, which bored out all the stump wood, and the roots were easily pulled out. I've never seen one since.
Great video on "How NOT to remove a tree stump."
He got it out...what’s the problem?
what? you gonna hand carve it out of there? thats why we have chainsaws. who cares if you have to cut dirt with it. it will live......
Lots of young inexperienced city kids all worried that the chain will have to be sharpened, oh no!
Stump is out. Great job.
Sawzall for the roots, and then just set it on fire.
You may want to specify to use a 9" or 12" inch Diablo pruning blade. I've used a sawzall on roots and it wears down regular blades down to a nub.
A good stump grinder may be more beneficial.
@@palabrajot505 Yes you are correct, the diablo ones are the way to go.
I 3rd this. The long Diablo carbide sawsall blades are the best bar none to hack roots. I have dealt with some serious stumps.
A tip is too clear as much soil around the root. Plus i use lubricant, like wd-40 or gel lube with a straw to spray the cut and blade. Sometimes i use grease, just slather on the blade a couple times during the cut, helps a lot
👌👍Very cleverly pulled this tree
That was a great video,very well presented and produced. Well done!
Thank you, I really appreciate that.
I'm glad you got that stump up. I thought for sure you was going to get that loader bucket all dirty. You could have used a snatch set up.
You might wanna tighten the chain on that chainsaw
I noticed that also
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Come on guys, he was too busy dulling the crap out of that blade to worry about how loose it was. I try to never let my chain come in contact with dirt or sand, dulls it instantly.
What a mouth!!!!!!!!
Wanna know how NOT to remove a stump??? Then watch this video.
Good video and saves money.
Dude!!!!!! Use a maddix to cut the roots. That is what it is designed to do, unless you just like sharpening chainsaw chains.
I lOVE my mattox. Born and built to take out roots.
I pulled 4 stumps using a sawzall with 12" blade a 5 pack is about 18.00..they weighed in at average 400 lbs apiece. I also used a probe to find leaders and a 6ft prybar with 8 ft pipe and that would let me know if there were more leaders i missed. Then i bolted my short chain to the stump and anchored my come along on the nearest stump or tree..I pulled 4 out averaging about 2 hrs per stump..The sawzall was perfect for that kind of job.. The ground is very soft and damp this rainy spring which was a big plus.
New chain,new shovel,newer tractor and a new chainsaw with the plastic on the handle. Maybe he'll find a better way after a few more...
Sorta reminds me of the Coyote and the Roadrunner....any of these items come from "Acme"?
Page 6:50 the branch root in the soil pushes back at its counter part of the trunk thus defeated the pull effort. Try two cuts per root branch to see it pull off.
all that dirt is hard on a chain!
Yeah I know but it was what I had at the time and I'll just resharpen the chain. Thanks for watching
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chaina t walmart for my saw....2 for roughly $15.00. chain resharpening........15 minutes of my time.
I set a stump on fire and layed an old tire on it, fit the stump perfectly. kept getting up through the night to ck for any problems, none fortunately. next morning all I had was a hole and the wire left from the tire. it even burnt the roots out through the ground, had trenches where the roots ran. worked quite well.
Why did you not use the bucket on the tractor to dig it out and to push it
Because it will not have enough traction to push the stump or cut the 3 to 4 inch roots. I get that question all the time....it's not a bulldozer.
Alan Gill - With a tractor that size, all it would accomplish would be bending the lower edge of the bucket and maybe bending the loader arms or a hydraulic piston ...and the trump would still be there. This guy was determined, he got it done and may have to replace the chain if it’s too far gone. So what? It’s his tool.
good call dennis, the stump is out and he might be out a $30 chain. i dont think he could have hired someone to pull it for $30
Way to stick with it. Persistence and elbow grease paid off. Thanks for the vid.
wash away dirt with garden hose. dirt dulls a chain in seconds
Is that some special chain that enables you cut in the dirt? If you have a chain saw and a tractor, you probably have a reciprocating saw too. Use that next time. It's alot easier and cheaper to replace that blade than it is to replace the chain. And take that plastic off the top grip. It makes for an unsafe grip of the saw. And readjust your grip. Get your thumb wrapped around the grip.
How to make a chain blunt AF in 60 secs. I have cut exposed roots in the ground but only after I have cleaned off where I am making a cut with a pressure washer.
tarmacsurfers
tarmacsurfers It looks like he went out a bought a brand new chainsaw for the job (ie: never used one before). He may have had to buy a shovel as well. Oop, brand new chain too. And a new tractor ????
OK, just saw the channel name. It all makes sense.
tarmacsurfers well ain't u special
This guy is a idiot needs a new chainsaw blade, should have bumped it back and forth with the scrap blade and pull straight up on it using a large old tractor wheel or long green log 5or6 ft.stand it up put chain on top and move out of your same tractor tracks you're digging a hole with your tires and making it twice as hard to come up.thats why you say I'm going to pull a stump up ^^^not sideways. Pull it up with your lift on your tractor if it's got enough ass ,that's the first thing you check when you buy a tractor is lift capacity they vary tremendously.
Robert Reichwein He might be special, but additionally he is knowledgeable on this subject. It's better to learn from his comment than to get your feelings hurt.
I had a smaller stump. Took a pressure washer to it to expose and clean the roots.I then took an old chisel and hammer and severed the exposed roots.
Should have left the tree stump taller. Attach chain to highest point and pul. Longer the stump more leaverage obtained. Simples.
I did much of this same stuff, minus using a chain saw, and tractor. ( The stumps are still there ! LOL ! I am an older woman, and I put a lot of effort in those stumps ! )
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How many of you are screaming to
GET IT OUT OF THE DIRT!!!!!!!
hey you did what you had to do. great job in my opinion
Thank you, I appreciate that.
The of course we have to hear from the usual tedious armchair warrior experts who freak out because a $12 chain might have to be sharpened.
Only because this particular college educated soyboy didn't know what dulls a metal blade. The new Marlboro Man.
Cutting into dirt does more than dull a chain. It can damage the bar and oiler.
Recip saw is the tool for this job.
Lol the armchair expert came up with that price
Good job running your saw in the dirt way to go
12:00 for impatient ones. You're welcome! ;-P
very smart and patient fellow
thanks for showing.
Thanks