I’ve been wondering for a while how blizzard could balance NE without a complete overhaul. I think the hardest part to balance is they become a complete race on t2 but on t1 it’s like archers barely do anything and hunts are a heavy investment to get quickly outclassed by a ranged unit. I think they should switch the tech tree for the hunt and archer (archer requires hunters hall). Buff the archers stats, and nerf the huntress stats slightly.
@@Life_of_Matthew just make the armor type of some units be something else. Like for example, Huntress should be heavy armoured. Why on earth are they unarmored?
@@DKtrek21 I think heavy armor might actually be a problem later, look at the destroyers. I think ne air needs a buff. Against Gryphons or Destroyers ... you only have hippos, which aren't that great.
@florinbalint8853 that's true. But giving Huntress heavy armor means they slowly die from normal and piercing attacks which is the most common attack type on most tier 1 to 2 units. Huntresses will always be an early game unit. If it comes to the late game, and knows the enemy will get destroyers then faerie dragons are the answer
That one is tricky, you don't "know" undead goes destroyers, you always have to react. They go fiends and a bunch of statues. If you go bears, they transform, if not, fiends continue to destroy your army.
New to WC3 here. In game 2, how did Colorful get control of the troll priest? Did he have some item that takes control of enemy creeps? And at 20:54, why didn't Happy go for killing the enemy hero with Death coil? The warden hp was so low.
So, just to be clear - elf clearing expo first and dropping an expo on it is very greedy. Undead going expo first, running across map for 30 seconds and forcing the cancel is great scouting. Got it. Riveting commentary.
Ud dominates early and mid. Ne only pulls ahead with level 5 and level 6 heroes and superior upgrade and talons Ud has too many options early game and can tech switch so easily (garg to fiend or fiend to garg)
Things are never balanced. Pro players need to figure things out by themselves. Balancing game is usually for normal player because a little imbalance will make every normal player play only the strongest race, but now the normal player base is not big enough for them to seriously think about balancing. This is a dead game man, asking good balance is too much.
@@joking3862I don’t have English version. There are in the Chinese channels. I also read it in news. But you do noticed Forti was in the round robin and he didn’t make it to the grand final.
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Alchemist lvl 1 >>> Warden lvl 5
I’ve been wondering for a while how blizzard could balance NE without a complete overhaul. I think the hardest part to balance is they become a complete race on t2 but on t1 it’s like archers barely do anything and hunts are a heavy investment to get quickly outclassed by a ranged unit.
I think they should switch the tech tree for the hunt and archer (archer requires hunters hall). Buff the archers stats, and nerf the huntress stats slightly.
Yeah I love WC3 but unfortunately several of the matchups are pretty imbalanced. Another example is Orc vs. Night Elf (Night Elf crushes Orc)
@@Life_of_Matthew just make the armor type of some units be something else. Like for example, Huntress should be heavy armoured. Why on earth are they unarmored?
@@DKtrek21 I think heavy armor might actually be a problem later, look at the destroyers.
I think ne air needs a buff. Against Gryphons or Destroyers ... you only have hippos, which aren't that great.
@florinbalint8853 that's true. But giving Huntress heavy armor means they slowly die from normal and piercing attacks which is the most common attack type on most tier 1 to 2 units. Huntresses will always be an early game unit. If it comes to the late game, and knows the enemy will get destroyers then faerie dragons are the answer
That one is tricky, you don't "know" undead goes destroyers, you always have to react.
They go fiends and a bunch of statues.
If you go bears, they transform, if not, fiends continue to destroy your army.
In the last months NE is weak and never wins, it needs a buff
ahhaahhaahahahah
New to WC3 here. In game 2, how did Colorful get control of the troll priest? Did he have some item that takes control of enemy creeps? And at 20:54, why didn't Happy go for killing the enemy hero with Death coil? The warden hp was so low.
He bought the troll. Warden hp was not low enough to be killed by level one coil and she could either blink dodge that or blink away
This matchup is pretty imbalanced.
Why didnt warden have staff to save countless bears...??
At this point, NE are just a free win for Happy. He might lose once every 20 matches.
happy was the cock-block king in this one. those expacs didnt stand a chance
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No need buddy. It's NE vs Happy. It's always a stomp
colorful does some really noob mistakes sometimes, it's so weird.
Total dominación del Juego... GG Happy.
Matchup is stupid, something needs to be done
So, just to be clear - elf clearing expo first and dropping an expo on it is very greedy. Undead going expo first, running across map for 30 seconds and forcing the cancel is great scouting. Got it. Riveting commentary.
Game is asymmetrically balanced.
@@chuckwalla123this. UD just get better early, mid and lategame. NE got Flashy lvl 6 abilities i guess?
Ud dominates early and mid. Ne only pulls ahead with level 5 and level 6 heroes and superior upgrade and talons
Ud has too many options early game and can tech switch so easily (garg to fiend or fiend to garg)
Yeah I love WC3 but unfortunately several of the matchups are pretty imbalanced. Another example is Orc vs. Night Elf (Night Elf crushes Orc)
@@chuckwalla123 then why do yo lose every time you don t cancel back.
Poor night elf. So imbalanced.
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Colourful 🤭
nerf Ne when? Stupid blizzard
nerf UD when ? stupid blizzard can’t balance shit
Things are never balanced. Pro players need to figure things out by themselves. Balancing game is usually for normal player because a little imbalance will make every normal player play only the strongest race, but now the normal player base is not big enough for them to seriously think about balancing. This is a dead game man, asking good balance is too much.
@@RabbitLLLord
Balancing is always based on pro/highest level.
NE is weakest race
Weakest race playes in grandfinal? Lol. Just hands, not race.))
And people say elf needs buff! look how many mistakes elf players do, there is no amount of buffs can save that.
can't even win one round as a pro gamer, and still got a chance to play in a pro tournament. whats the difference between him and a noob?
He's one of the best NE players in the world still.
@BinxyBrown with like 0%WR vs UD LuL
And he won against Forti and Infi in the same series. Do you still think he is weak?
@@Wondering236Link? I wpuld like to see NE win for once
@@joking3862I don’t have English version. There are in the Chinese channels. I also read it in news. But you do noticed Forti was in the round robin and he didn’t make it to the grand final.
Happy is unstoppable as the undead race 🥶