CHRISTIAN ATHEISM (w/ Slavoj Žižek)
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Plainly historical.
When this started, the sky turned gold and there was singing.
@@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel 🌞🎶
It's painful to listen to him. can somebody do the subtitles for this one, please?
Absolutely iconic. I feel like I am witnessing something quite special here.
Absolutely lit up to see this. Can't think of another philosopher more deserving of engaging Zizek in this way. Fantastic!
Epic! I’m so happy that you got to interview Slavoj! Well deserved!
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The short session! 50:31
Cadell, I feel so honored to be here for this conservation even though I am not here at the same time.
Great parapraxis/slip here. I hope you don’t edit it!
Bro this conversation is straight fire. Bars after bars
Conversation?
Amazing!!! Looking forward to this🥳🙏🏼
I feel like we should get the kids candy baskets for this holiday. Presents under a tree. The works.
What an interestint discussion. Everytime you spoke, I felt illuminated perspectively. I think the biggest issue with Zizek's communication is that he constantly interrupts and he also lacks conscientiousness of our ignoarance, and did not get the reality that you were trying to set up the concept and discussion and questions for the audience. But he dismissed and interrupted like, "yes, of course. I already know."
I really think this make's Zizek's work so inaccessible.
Thanks for doing your best, I noticed you were still alive by the end 😂
Even if it wasn't for the audience. Just as a confirmation that you both are on the same page. I honestly can't imagine the struggle of keeping up with someone who's like that in conversations at his caliber of understanding and articulation, plus the speech impediments and accent. It's a feat in itself and you really showed your understanding of him I think and maybe having read his work helped?
I just bought his book "Living in the End times" which is why I'm trying to understand more.
I really gather the general philosophy the world is Socrates, Plato, then Kant, Hegel, then Nietzche and Marx.
Of course this is not the whole history of philosophy so I'm eager to want to understand more and poke holes in this limited consideration of being max/hegel dominant, or what are the benefits of that? Or biases per say in general?
You finally did it! 👍
these guys finally called Žižek!
This was quite beautiful with some nice jokes by Žižek and so on
wow what a honor - must be a great day for this channel
Amazing!
Thank you so much for this conversation
oh man Zizek said "metamodern" I'm so here for it
One thing I really like about Zizek is that despite him being a weird continental Hegelian philosopher, he still takes modern science very seriously and listens to the scientists. That seems to me pretty rare among continental philosophers.
What I like about Zizek is that he doesn't reject anything out of hand. His ideas are always worth considering.
I see Zizek. I stop, sit and listen.
I'm excited for this.
Brilliant Cadell.
Some real gems here.
I would have liked to have heard more from you - your summaries are always refreshing. But excellent.
22:30 this parallels my ex-wife and i when we divorced. i couldnt get any affirmed belief on anything out of her. the bigger irony is she is baptised catholic. for many (like her), religion is just another cultural perspective with material outcomes, and not any metaphysical truth.
Wow, so strangely beautiful watching this man slowly come to Christ! God bless Slavoj! :):)
Thank you for this. What a treat!
fantastic!
Let's go! Your channel and theory underground have been a lifeline for my attempt at sense making in our metamodern cluster f*ck of a world. ty!
woohoo!
can't wait!
Interviewer you earned my respect, I salute your journey.
"The truth of religion is Christianity, and the truth of Christianity is atheism."
exciting!
Great work Cadell I cannot wait to get my hands on it :D
did you talk previously or was this when you met him? he's most amused with you, not taunting you to not be a bore and knives out nor demanding a master to his histerical personal to structure the thing from drifting...
We have known each other/been in contact since around 2017. 🍎
Many of my Christian family members (over 60) flatter themselves by saying they still love me even though I'm not a white supremacist like them. Therefore, they still feel the generous spiritual shift of going beyond themselves.
Quantum gravity needs to rediscover a new theory of time. The future has a psychological reality, parallel to gravity, such that the future has a pull, which is not simply the vectors from the past, from the outside, but central to 'spiritual' reality.
hell yeah
This is great because the analysis of the empirical evidence of the shroud and what it means is scientifically irrefutable today! What a time to be alive!
He is 100% talking about James Lindsey
An alien entering Enter The Alien.. He should feel right at home!
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starts at 2:59
hey, enjoying your channel but its a bit of shame you seem to use so much AI art
I still don't get it, the title. Is there anyone that can sunmarize an idea before talking about everything else for an hour? Maybe I missed it somewhere in there.
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marking 47:58 just in case he steals your ideas :)
8:50 Hegel would say Holy Spirit which in German would be "heiliger Geist" - a regular expression for German christians. And he was all about the Geist which is usually translated as Spirit. Its interesting that this is where the German and the English language somehow meet. Both say holy ghost or heiiiger Geist. Geist can mean ghost, as well as spirit, as well as mind. No translation captures is fully. Great Conversation.
Thanks for this correction and appreciate the feedback. 🙏
@@PhilosophyPortalnot really wanting to correct just pointing to this interesting overlap in language
“Geist” and “ghost” are obviously cognates. In Swedish we have “gast” as well, which basically refers to the kind of ghost you’re afraid of, although the word is a bit old-fashioned. Well, Swedish, German and English are of course all Germanic languages.
Brain fizzing 🤠💜
so is this new AI coming up - will it be an 'other' new species of intelligent life that will make use think radically
I love this guy! Puppet and the Dwarf is still better than Christian Atheism, though
I would love a clear explanation of Zizek's arguments here (without all the trademark digressions). One nitpick: it's disappointing to hear him misuse the "immaculate conception"
I love Zizek!
What is the alien?
36:00 Its lowkey just xenophobia and what circulates fascism, so its admirable to reduce that, imo. Because, its, objectively speaking, a self-destructive anti-peaceful type of culture dynamic, like what comes forth from its emergence, is in that manner. And in that sense it could be quite important to solve.
39:12 Quantum gravity. Is it actually wise, to answer it? Like, what if a quantum gravity bomb gets invented? Is that a good thing? Or, what if the ai and control systems, want to manage humans even more totalitarian? Like, instead of them being stuck on this problem, they'll map it out then humans would be screwed. Right? But maybe, ai, has already figured it out?
I wonder, do I want to be immortalized if I could infer quantum gravity? Its not essential. The pursuit for pseudo-immortality through others, is still not infinite. And if there is a great filter, then revealing it will certainly end it faster. And thats fine, because, we don't need to know quantum gravity, to solve these social problems. How much of the world do great thinkers change in their lifetime anyways?
"Islam-Atheism" when?
Atheism with Islamic characteristics or Islamism with atheist characteristics?
Did you send him your stuff?
49:20 Slavoj getting kinky there hahahaha nah jk, love to see them really blow up on ideas using the DIALECTIC :)))))
Doesn't this make Zizek just another secular humanist who likes the ethics of Christianity? Like the Jefferson Bible?
Look into quantum physics and I think you will begin to see how this goes beyond what you say here. I say begin because It is difficult but keep trying with me fellow traveler.
Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus, Iamblichus, Synesius, Proclus, Eriugena, Hegel.
No, I think the whole point is to articulate how precisely how his religious atheism is different from other forms. The point is not an aesthetic add on to secularism but about the possibility of secularism itself.
@buicktothemoon good point. But it seems like his primary idea is that we should REALIZE how the Christ-event was unique, resulted in the death of God as a big other, and left us with the holy spirit as an egalitarian collective. Okay, if I realize that, then what does that mean in practice? Sounds like Secular humanism with Christian ethics
@@mcosu1Haven't seen the whole interview yet but I don't think it is about ethics, it is about ridding ourselves of this sort of theist atheism, where formally one might be an atheist but still, consciously or otherwise, he retains a sense of a higher order of things. It is about radically realizing our isolation and thus responsibility.
Is this the final consequence of the _res cognitans aporia,_ hyper occultism? Mme Blavatsky would be proud of you!
Zizzy
wow the shock of a real otherness - if we see aliens *mind blown*
Hegel is a bozo
One should really interrogate themselves when they have no actual proximity to the actual work shaping the world. It is always a problem when you have to rely on others research and all you can do is frame it and construct concepts that have no weight behind them or actual impact. And can't, as such, be falsified.
Amazing!!!!
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