Lmao You must not have any knowledge of what a "Nazi" is because if you did you would know that was the stupidest statement you could've ever made. You realize they actually slaughtered Jew-ish people right? You ever read Ann Frank? To compare Kanye to that is asinine.
One thing I like about Atlanta is that the people come across as somebody you can find in real life with and have a genuine conversation about topics. You can notice the hesitation on the jewish guy at the counter to answer Earns question. The way he answered the question with a nuanced take was honestly something youd see too in a discourse about the subject .
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium I love those kinds of contrasts in different works. A much more low-brow example is the show Aqua Teen Hunger Force, where the backgrounds and objects in the background are really realistically drawn whilst most of the action that takes place to the main characters is absurd and surreal. That kind of friction works both comedically and dramatically.
@@sonicextremities9570 I took this Queer Film Theory class and the professor taught a bunch of other film courses, but her main thesis was that there is an emerging genre of 'Social Thrillers' that challenge many aspects of film reality. Best example I can think of is Better Call Saul. In her class I wrote a paper about a possible genre called 'Suspense Comedies' that can comprise anywhere from ATHF to a show like Atlanta. The two 'genres' are just kind of a way to categorize shows when comedy and drama start to blur even further
It's kinda odd how some people miss the point of this scene with the Jewish guy. Earn is not asking randomly or because he's trying to gauge how well the other black attorney can be. He's questioning himself and his role. You already saw earlier in the season how Luke, Clark County's manager, who is a white dude is supposedly pretty good at his job. Clark even tells Paper Boi how Luke hooked him up with all these advertising contracts and how Luke can do the same for him. Earn understands the world he lives in and as Paper Boi moves up he's wondering whether Al will need him much longer if he can't deliver. The question isn't about the attorney per se, but whether ANY black professional can be as good as a white professional in a field where connections are paramount. The answer confirms what he already suspected, that he is at a disadvantage since he does not have access to the same connections a white manager, like Luke, can get. And so now he's left wondering whether he truly can be the best manager for Al and whether Al is justified in replacing him. We see at the end of the season that Earn finds his place and Al understands his value and what he can do. Unlike the white professionals, Earn understands where they are coming from and will fight even harder for them to remain on top and do things other professionals wouldn't think of, such as trying to frame Clark County with the gun. That is the value Earn brings that Paper Boi can't get anywhere else. Family, trust, and a level of ruthlessness that comes with being family. It's a great scene and essential the Earn's journey for the season.
@@Smoneey Says the dude whose entire response is "that's your opinion man" with nothing more to say. He is asking a legitimate question and getting the legitimate no-bullshit answer. Being "good" at those types of jobs have nothing to do with your personal skills. It is knowing people in the right places with the right set of skills to do the job for the client. In different industries, that is a different glass ceiling installed and it very much exists. The old white man who has been working with record labels since water fountains still had "for colored folks only" signs on it is going to have more high exec connections than the black dude from the poor ghetto who has had to fight for everything he has ever had. That is just reality.
2:24 - I love everything about this scene, especially lawyer conversation and the ending. It reminds of Jerry Seinfeld saying that writing a great joke on a touchy subject is like dodging laser beams. Earn's question got everybody shook, but the passport guy handled it perfectly.
This scene just serves to remind me how damn good season 2 really was. 3 was fine - no complaints, not really - but everybody was paying so much more attention in season 2. Everything was smarter, more nuanced, and more open to interpretation. It was that rare season of television that truly excelled.
@@johnlittle3430 Totally agree. Season 2 may not have had as many details as season 3, but it paid the most attention to the details it had. And in terms of character development, this season reigned supreme.
Takes about 5-7 weeks right now at the post office, private companies are charging shitloads right now to get one in 5 days, upwards up $800 in some places.
Ya know,Atlanta could've been just a show about Donald Glover the manager and his struggles as he tries to make it big and no one really wouldve thought about asking for anything more than that tbh....but then small moments like the last piece of dialogue with this Jewish Lawyer elevate this show into being one of the most well written,Powerful,mind-boggling deep,and provocative shows ever made.
I got hooked on the show starting out as that, just being about the struggles of balancing family and starting your own business. But then that fucking Whiteface episode happened and so many other things that just makes me question if these things could actually happen in the state of Georgia... and every time I question if they could exist I'm like... yeah probably lol
@Billy William bruh what the fuck are you even saying shut the fuck up. Reported his ass so u may not see the original comment, but he was posting that shit multiple times in different threads on this video lmfao get a life. I have no life plus I uploaded this stolen media clip
Whoa. This show and this scene alone is such a master class in framing cinematography dialogue acting storytelling everything. Man. I’m now a convert to this show. 😍
That's why I like this show. It gets to the questions that matter, and it handles it in a way that makes you think and opens it up for discussion. And with humor.
A lot of folks are a bit confused but still point out the significance of this scene specifically with the word "systemic" because it has a deep undertone and meaning to into it. So... tapping into a question that goes back hundreds, if not a thousand years ago, let me break some shit down for y'all. I'll primarily focus on the Middle Ages to keep things short and for the lack I don't want to bore you guys with 10 paragraph story. With that said: Religious attitudes were reflected in the economic, social, and political life of medieval Europe. In much of Europe during the Middle Ages, Jews were denied citizenship and its rights, barred from holding posts in government and the military, and excluded from membership in guilds and the professions. To be sure, some European rulers and societies, particularly during the early Middle Ages, afforded Jews a degree of tolerance and acceptance, and it would be an error to conceive of Jews as facing an unchanging and unceasing manifestation of anti-Jewish oppression throughout this period. Sounds pretty shitty right? Well here's how you make lemonade with lemons... As European commerce grew in the late Middle Ages, some Jews became prominent in trade, banking, and moneylending, and Jews’ economic and cultural successes tended to arouse the envy of the populace. This economic resentment, allied with traditional religious prejudice, prompted the forced expulsion of Jews from several countries and regions, including England (1290), France (14th century), Germany (1350s), Portugal (1496), Provence (1512), and the Papal States (1569). Intensifying persecution in Spain culminated in 1492 in the forced expulsion of that country’s large and long-established Jewish population. Only Jews who had converted to Christianity were allowed to remain, and those suspected of continuing to practice Judaism faced persecution in the Spanish Inquisition. As a result of these mass expulsions, the centres of Jewish life shifted from western Europe and Germany to Turkey and then to Poland and Russia. Because premodern Christianity did not permit moneylending for interest and because Jews generally could not own land, Jews played a vital role as moneylenders and traders. Where they were permitted to participate in the larger society, Jews thrived. During the Middle Ages in Spain, before their expulsion in 1492. If I've lost you at this point it's ok, what I'm trying to allude for Jews living in Europe, they had very little opportunity to run a successful business during those days, however, they were permitted to handle MONEY. This included banking. This included law firms. The Jewish community was very tight knit and goal oriented so naturally over 500 years they cultivated these niche skill sets that were permitted and it led them to become experts in their fields, developing relationthips with corporations, governments, social entities, and celebrities alike. Those are POWERFUL connections. That quote you heard, "for systemic reasons..." it's brief but very powerful in it's message because you have to understand history and the nuances of hundreds of years of developing a specific skill because the Catholic church and a majority of European countires marginalized and made it diffulct for Jews to thrive. Why else do you hear that silly anti-semitic stereotype about Jews running the world. NO! It's because that was their only opportunity to survive in a world that didn't give them a chance. Just like African Americans since the end of Jim Crow, they've had less than 100 years to adapt to a world that treated them sub-human. The problem and solution is systemic because systemic means it's built into the cake. It's endemic and repeats each cycle. Your father is a doctor so you're going to be a doctor. because your cousin and uncle are also a doctor. It's built into the cake. Sadly for Earn, while he was befuddled by the Jewish kids candor and bluntness, he couldn't argue his point because he is correct in every assessment. Black lawyers can easily play the game as Jewish lawyers. However... they're playing a game which Jews have been doing it since the Renaissance period. Hope this makes sense for y'all.
That's quite interesting. What's your background for being so immersed in Jewish history, if you're willing to share? And do you have any recommendations for further reading?
3:25 Having connection is unearned, but it makes a person a lot better at the job of "entertainment lawyer." What the clerk is saying is that even a great black lawyer who lacks the family connections (the cousin's dad is an entertainment lawyer) will struggle to compete with someone who was born with those connections. Systemic.
I think there is a bigger discourse to WHY there are so many Jewish lawyers in entertainment. Decades ago, many of them were not allowed to work within “proper” legal firms, so their outlet was to provide services to more “low brow” specialties in legal services - entertainment was among them. Whatever we might consider as privilege now, used to be a coping mechanism to deal with systemic issues. A very tight community also helps within this context.
It’s not systemic that’s literally how successful families look out for one another and STAY successful.. at least families that support one another not run out on each other
The best part of this clip is the Jewish dude behind Darius and Earn, who is listening in on their conversation and giving these amazing reactions 1:45
As a Zimbabwean, the most offensive part of this whole video is that they pay only $350 for a same-day passport replacement. We pay twice as much to hopefully get it in a month. First World problems are so adorable.
That’s because they have to make kick backs to corrupt officials to get things done. The squeaky wheel gets the grease if you know what I mean. Start a company that does things honestly and see what happens.
xD I thought how this guy comment could be pin if he have 0 likes comparison to others I even thought mb it’s could be offensive or ppl just don’t wanna give him a like Then I saw comment 8 hours ago
"Black people just don't have the connections that my cousin has. For systemic reasons." The fact that they're jewish lawyers makes it ambiguous which systemic advantage he's referring to. Is it the stereotype of law being dominated by jews, or is it the whole "white" thing? Either one could really apply. But the fact that this all starts with Al preferring a jewish lawyer probably means he's referring to the former.
It's more about two generations worth of entertainment law connections mentioned in this clip. Plus racial segregation is still in living memory. Another 50 years, and the scales may be more balanced.
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium It's funny you mention that because I was just thinking that this episode, and this scene in particular is just like an episode of "Curb.." but written from the perspective of Donald Glover. Even their casual conversation in the waiting room. Carefully towing the line between offensive, and accurate when playing on "jewish-isms". Pretty clever that he'd be able to work in the ambiguity he'd face when hearing "For systemic reasons."
@@coletrain I agree, but why do you think they have two generations worth of entertainment law connections; because of the same type of thinking as Al's, "I want a jewish lawyer". Reference that to irl rappers who brag about having jewish lawyers. It's a self-reinforcing idea, they are assumed to be the best, to a degree that they dominate the field systemically (jewish lawyers are more expensive and are the unspoken standard), and since they're dense in clients they naturally create more connections. Since it's so lucrative for them, they make sure to pass the trade down to their descendants. Even this guy barely past his Bar Mitzvah is already a paralegal, he already understands how to work with rappers so he'll probably end up representing rappers down the line.
@@filmdude9970 YEAH I agree. Its the good kind of offensive. The slow burn. Its kind of like a metaracism or metastereotype that actually reflects on everybody else. Idk its hard to explain. It makes everyone both think & laugh, but cautiously laugh
I think what the guy was trying to come across is that Jews are big in the entertainment business. That’s what he could mean by connections and systemic reasons. Sometimes it pays to have the name “Feinstein” on the cease and desist than “jones.”
@@salmansengul 25% of Jews around the world are nonwhite. Only in America and Europe are the majority of Jews white, and even then it's rare to find a congregation without any Jews of color.
Whether or not they provide better legal representation, Jewish law firms tend to cost more cuz of more systemic shit. And everyone likes to think that more expensive = better
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium Jewish people have a higher education standard from the principals built from the religion. They have communities out there big or small. Varying in different levels of religiosity but community is a core thing. Jewish people have these stereotypes because accounting/taxes/land ownership-laws are all built into the Tora. The Tora was the law in ancient Jewish communities. One of the oldest civilizations is the Jews and they know that with evidence to back it up as the first religion, then so on. Imagine having all of that as a cultural background? Where race and religion are one and the same. Would I go for a Jewish lawyer? Maybe. "Jewish law firms tend to cost more cuz of more systemic shit" More like better colleges and degrees (PHDs, Masters, Ivy leagues. They have a smaller community as well that ONLY USE EACH OTHERS' SERVICES. They don't even need UberEATS to say "black owned business" cause guess what? Just say your food is "kosher" --- I.e "buy here". "Everyone likes to think that more expensive = better" - No shit look at clothes. It applies with reason and doesn't. It's a fallacy to say just because something is expensive its better and everyone agrees with that. Also, there are cheap Jewish law firms out there and it's a stereotype to say they "tend to cost more". Supply and demand actually. Stop thinking about racism and start attacking the STATUS QUO that's making insurance/pharmacy/hospitals scam us of getting cheaper care. Gov paying zero attention to mental health out here in the country. Cops killing people and saving their own. The homeless cities in CA that have never been there ever. ETC. If you want to change something stop complaining and go and help your neighbor. Cause the Jews have been on that since day one, with or without slavery and genocide.
It’s funny that whenever someone ask for a Jew, they specifically mean a European or European descent Jew (I know this story takes place in Europe. I’m just sayin in media in general). Not a Middle Eastern Jew. Not a African jew like a Ethiopian Jew. Etc
@@DTreatz ethopian jews alqways referred to themselves as jews. Sephardic jews from north africa also refer to themselves as jews so i dont get your point.
@@DTreatz and lets not forget about georgianjews or bukharan jews. America only had big immigration waves from ahkenazi or russian jews. That does not mean other jewish cultures see themselves as less jewish.
There's so much wrong with Paper Boi's thinking. A big law firm would just push him to the side to focus on clients that bring in higher revenue for them, while a smaller law firm will have the time to dedicate to each client. Plus there's literally no guarantee a Jewish lawyer won't screw him over royally. He's just going off the stereotype of the Jewish entertainment lawyer.
The larger firm wouldn't care about him but the lawyer assigned to him trying to make a name for himself would. Unless he finds a unicorn like Saul Goodman going with a firm also means you have access to their records, their interns, their associates, etc. If you can afford it they justify the price.
@@napppstar0 you've never even met someone who works at a large firm. Do you have ANY idea what they can do? Do you know why NOBODY writes hit pieces about Ford? Because Hienkel and Warowitz will flood their office with cease and desist filings with an army of interns spend days creating and dissecting behind it. Consider this- a top NYC firm will get 100 interns a year. They all say the work is grueling. How many high profile clients can keep an army of interns busy for 12 months? NONE. They're not going to ruin their reputation when they can just take on 2 more interns to keep you happy, with a partner to spend 5 minutes drawing up the strategy.
In partna dem by bino on the stn mtn mixtape he says "this on some old atlanta shit. its not about what you know but who you know" which relates to this so much
The irony is that “big law firms” or “white shoe firms” were predominantly dominated by WASPS who often discriminated against Jews and Catholics from working there lol. As someone from this environment, a big law firm specializes in many areas and has both a transactional/litigation side. Entertainment lawyers would fall under the transactional side and mainly negotiate and review contracts. To be honest, entertainment lawyers are a dime a dozen and anyone who passed the bar can do it lol. I believe the joke is in relation to how there are many Jews in the entertainment industry and how they often help each other out lol.
Why do you have to go to a lawyer to get your passport? In my country I will get an appointment then go to the police station and they will print it there for me for like 15 euros or something like that.
@@joseluki We actually don't go to a lawyer, we usually can request one within a few days at a government passport agency. However in some cases, if you have a flight within a day, you can go to a private business that will get you your passport within a couple hours. However its very expensive and especially now. America is a pretty corrupt country, just its hidden under smiles.
It’s funny this was the last episode before they went on a massively long hiatus. Also pretty much one of the last episodes that actually moved the plot. Granted in season 3 you got to see them doing their Euro tour but it was kind of just random things. It feels like this show was constantly going back and forth not sure if they should make this more into like a black “Entourage” with character development or just make every episode a commentary on something in society. In another world this probably exists as a more conventional plot driven show. And I’m sure it’s great. I certainly rewatched seasons 1 and 2 a lot more than 3 or 4, there’s just so many gems in 1 and 2. After this episode basically all the other ancillary characters are dropped and it just becomes a show about the 4 main characters.
Every time this show comes up, I can't unsee them trying to rehab Michael Vick. That's it. that's all there is to this show now - Michael Vick's wife helped produce it so in return they made a cute, funny little scene meant to remind you of what a great QB he was, and memory hole that his preferred method for killing dogs is drowning.
OMG I literally just said something similar and I am black.. I was like we have zero connections and the who world is about networking.. only black group that I see well connected is the Nigerians.. and what is the richest country in Africa in terms of GDP... lol.. NIGERIA..
Debating deleting this video now that all the new comments are about Kanye being a Nazi
Pls leave the video. It's powerful.
@@tyg2420 you can download the video with some youtube ripping site and host it yourself if you want
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium No thanks. But Kanye is not a Nazi.
@@tyg2420 this reply makes me want to delete the video more
Lmao You must not have any knowledge of what a "Nazi" is because if you did you would know that was the stupidest statement you could've ever made. You realize they actually slaughtered Jew-ish people right? You ever read Ann Frank? To compare Kanye to that is asinine.
One thing I like about Atlanta is that the people come across as somebody you can find in real life with and have a genuine conversation about topics. You can notice the hesitation on the jewish guy at the counter to answer Earns question. The way he answered the question with a nuanced take was honestly something youd see too in a discourse about the subject .
This is the realest show, regarding dialogue. A lot of the visuals are pretty wacky tho xD
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium I love those kinds of contrasts in different works. A much more low-brow example is the show Aqua Teen Hunger Force, where the backgrounds and objects in the background are really realistically drawn whilst most of the action that takes place to the main characters is absurd and surreal. That kind of friction works both comedically and dramatically.
@@sonicextremities9570 I took this Queer Film Theory class and the professor taught a bunch of other film courses, but her main thesis was that there is an emerging genre of 'Social Thrillers' that challenge many aspects of film reality. Best example I can think of is Better Call Saul. In her class I wrote a paper about a possible genre called 'Suspense Comedies' that can comprise anywhere from ATHF to a show like Atlanta. The two 'genres' are just kind of a way to categorize shows when comedy and drama start to blur even further
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium Suspense Comedy eh? That sounds really interesting tbh
@@maylabrown4584 I always forget the term Dramedy exists! That's the more mainstream terminology that basically describes the same phenomena
3:50 man was sorting through every possible answer like Dr Strange in Infinity War and came out with the best possible response.
underrated comment
Reddit moment
Lol. It's the nuanced truth in our present society hopefully it changes sooner than later.
It's kinda odd how some people miss the point of this scene with the Jewish guy. Earn is not asking randomly or because he's trying to gauge how well the other black attorney can be. He's questioning himself and his role. You already saw earlier in the season how Luke, Clark County's manager, who is a white dude is supposedly pretty good at his job. Clark even tells Paper Boi how Luke hooked him up with all these advertising contracts and how Luke can do the same for him. Earn understands the world he lives in and as Paper Boi moves up he's wondering whether Al will need him much longer if he can't deliver.
The question isn't about the attorney per se, but whether ANY black professional can be as good as a white professional in a field where connections are paramount. The answer confirms what he already suspected, that he is at a disadvantage since he does not have access to the same connections a white manager, like Luke, can get. And so now he's left wondering whether he truly can be the best manager for Al and whether Al is justified in replacing him. We see at the end of the season that Earn finds his place and Al understands his value and what he can do. Unlike the white professionals, Earn understands where they are coming from and will fight even harder for them to remain on top and do things other professionals wouldn't think of, such as trying to frame Clark County with the gun. That is the value Earn brings that Paper Boi can't get anywhere else. Family, trust, and a level of ruthlessness that comes with being family.
It's a great scene and essential the Earn's journey for the season.
But Jews are not white..
That’s just, like, your opinion man. Hate when people think they know whats going on like they can read minds. You sound like an English lit teacher.
@@Smoneey nah man he’s right on the money. That glass ceiling shit is reality
@@patrickbyrne5070 You think with zero evidence lol
@@Smoneey Says the dude whose entire response is "that's your opinion man" with nothing more to say. He is asking a legitimate question and getting the legitimate no-bullshit answer. Being "good" at those types of jobs have nothing to do with your personal skills. It is knowing people in the right places with the right set of skills to do the job for the client. In different industries, that is a different glass ceiling installed and it very much exists. The old white man who has been working with record labels since water fountains still had "for colored folks only" signs on it is going to have more high exec connections than the black dude from the poor ghetto who has had to fight for everything he has ever had. That is just reality.
2:24 - I love everything about this scene, especially lawyer conversation and the ending. It reminds of Jerry Seinfeld saying that writing a great joke on a touchy subject is like dodging laser beams. Earn's question got everybody shook, but the passport guy handled it perfectly.
Was not expecting to see a Seinfeld analysis on these video comments but Im here for it
This scene just serves to remind me how damn good season 2 really was. 3 was fine - no complaints, not really - but everybody was paying so much more attention in season 2. Everything was smarter, more nuanced, and more open to interpretation. It was that rare season of television that truly excelled.
I was thinkin the same, i saw seinfeld here
@@johnlittle3430 Totally agree. Season 2 may not have had as many details as season 3, but it paid the most attention to the details it had. And in terms of character development, this season reigned supreme.
Darius' random conversations elevates the comedy in this show.
Thank u, I love u
$350 isn't expensive for a SAME DAY passport replacement/update. It's roughly $200 and it takes around two weeks.
Takes about 5-7 weeks right now at the post office, private companies are charging shitloads right now to get one in 5 days, upwards up $800 in some places.
I was about to say this is a deal for two hours.
It’s a joke about the Israeli embassy, you call and it’s 2 weeks, you come in and it’s same day, only agency I found that will do it…
I made it happen same day in 4 hours. Show up in person with documents proving you are traveling that day.
That's 350 years ago dum dum
Ya know,Atlanta could've been just a show about Donald Glover the manager and his struggles as he tries to make it big and no one really wouldve thought about asking for anything more than that tbh....but then small moments like the last piece of dialogue with this Jewish Lawyer elevate this show into being one of the most well written,Powerful,mind-boggling deep,and provocative shows ever made.
I got hooked on the show starting out as that, just being about the struggles of balancing family and starting your own business. But then that fucking Whiteface episode happened and so many other things that just makes me question if these things could actually happen in the state of Georgia... and every time I question if they could exist I'm like... yeah probably lol
Provocative! Yes.
Jewish lawyers are nerdy and do not party so they are best, they don't have three baby mamasa, the show addresses race in a real way.
@Billy William so systemic racism is not real? a delusion?
how are you a real human being?
@Billy William bruh what the fuck are you even saying shut the fuck up. Reported his ass so u may not see the original comment, but he was posting that shit multiple times in different threads on this video lmfao get a life. I have no life plus I uploaded this stolen media clip
"You said I have a crafty, Jew brain." "Nobody knows how to take a compliment anymore."
Whoa. This show and this scene alone is such a master class in framing cinematography dialogue acting storytelling everything. Man. I’m now a convert to this show. 😍
"Alright, thank you, I love you" 😂 Darius really cracks me up!
One thing for sure - connections are a very important part of life.
Oh shut up
even more important in making money
"... for systemic reasons" eh. At least he's being honest.
It’s a show… a writer wrote that dialogue so it’s not being “honest” but the writer pushing what they believe is the truth.
@@Rushinator1 both of yall are correct
@@Rushinator1 It is objectively the truth, regardless of whether a fictional character said it or not.
@@matheusvillela9150 Rhetoric and anecdotes aren't the same as "objective" truth.
What does that even mean
The dude lookin in on the boxers convo’s reactions are so funny
Best part
I like how the first lawyers name is literally Christian
I never even thought about that. Crazy!
jesus second coming????
This was such a great show. Looking forward to whatever the next projects are for everyone involved. Brilliant.
That's why I like this show. It gets to the questions that matter, and it handles it in a way that makes you think and opens it up for discussion. And with humor.
"Its $350"
"Oh that's why"
- Glover nails delivery.
A lot of folks are a bit confused but still point out the significance of this scene specifically with the word "systemic" because it has a deep undertone and meaning to into it. So... tapping into a question that goes back hundreds, if not a thousand years ago, let me break some shit down for y'all.
I'll primarily focus on the Middle Ages to keep things short and for the lack I don't want to bore you guys with 10 paragraph story. With that said: Religious attitudes were reflected in the economic, social, and political life of medieval Europe. In much of Europe during the Middle Ages, Jews were denied citizenship and its rights, barred from holding posts in government and the military, and excluded from membership in guilds and the professions. To be sure, some European rulers and societies, particularly during the early Middle Ages, afforded Jews a degree of tolerance and acceptance, and it would be an error to conceive of Jews as facing an unchanging and unceasing manifestation of anti-Jewish oppression throughout this period.
Sounds pretty shitty right? Well here's how you make lemonade with lemons...
As European commerce grew in the late Middle Ages, some Jews became prominent in trade, banking, and moneylending, and Jews’ economic and cultural successes tended to arouse the envy of the populace. This economic resentment, allied with traditional religious prejudice, prompted the forced expulsion of Jews from several countries and regions, including England (1290), France (14th century), Germany (1350s), Portugal (1496), Provence (1512), and the Papal States (1569). Intensifying persecution in Spain culminated in 1492 in the forced expulsion of that country’s large and long-established Jewish population. Only Jews who had converted to Christianity were allowed to remain, and those suspected of continuing to practice Judaism faced persecution in the Spanish Inquisition. As a result of these mass expulsions, the centres of Jewish life shifted from western Europe and Germany to Turkey and then to Poland and Russia.
Because premodern Christianity did not permit moneylending for interest and because Jews generally could not own land, Jews played a vital role as moneylenders and traders. Where they were permitted to participate in the larger society, Jews thrived. During the Middle Ages in Spain, before their expulsion in 1492.
If I've lost you at this point it's ok, what I'm trying to allude for Jews living in Europe, they had very little opportunity to run a successful business during those days, however, they were permitted to handle MONEY. This included banking. This included law firms. The Jewish community was very tight knit and goal oriented so naturally over 500 years they cultivated these niche skill sets that were permitted and it led them to become experts in their fields, developing relationthips with corporations, governments, social entities, and celebrities alike. Those are POWERFUL connections.
That quote you heard, "for systemic reasons..." it's brief but very powerful in it's message because you have to understand history and the nuances of hundreds of years of developing a specific skill because the Catholic church and a majority of European countires marginalized and made it diffulct for Jews to thrive. Why else do you hear that silly anti-semitic stereotype about Jews running the world. NO! It's because that was their only opportunity to survive in a world that didn't give them a chance. Just like African Americans since the end of Jim Crow, they've had less than 100 years to adapt to a world that treated them sub-human. The problem and solution is systemic because systemic means it's built into the cake. It's endemic and repeats each cycle. Your father is a doctor so you're going to be a doctor. because your cousin and uncle are also a doctor. It's built into the cake.
Sadly for Earn, while he was befuddled by the Jewish kids candor and bluntness, he couldn't argue his point because he is correct in every assessment. Black lawyers can easily play the game as Jewish lawyers. However... they're playing a game which Jews have been doing it since the Renaissance period.
Hope this makes sense for y'all.
✡️ Spoken like a mensch.
Nicely explained
what is this shitpost answer
That's quite interesting. What's your background for being so immersed in Jewish history, if you're willing to share? And do you have any recommendations for further reading?
Well said.
the big dude
in the back with the facial expressions deserves a best supporting actor award
3:25 Having connection is unearned, but it makes a person a lot better at the job of "entertainment lawyer." What the clerk is saying is that even a great black lawyer who lacks the family connections (the cousin's dad is an entertainment lawyer) will struggle to compete with someone who was born with those connections. Systemic.
I think there is a bigger discourse to WHY there are so many Jewish lawyers in entertainment. Decades ago, many of them were not allowed to work within “proper” legal firms, so their outlet was to provide services to more “low brow” specialties in legal services - entertainment was among them.
Whatever we might consider as privilege now, used to be a coping mechanism to deal with systemic issues.
A very tight community also helps within this context.
It’s not systemic that’s literally how successful families look out for one another and STAY successful.. at least families that support one another not run out on each other
The best part of this clip is the Jewish dude behind Darius and Earn, who is listening in on their conversation and giving these amazing reactions 1:45
he really going 👀🙄👀
For someone who always looks for odd parts of the scene I never paid attention. Love this show!
The little scowl at the end when Darius explains how he likes to switch it up 😂
Don't forget the black lady as well
I love how Atlanta can be so straight to the point at times
i'll add "for systemic reasons" to my repertoire, every time i need to justify myself.
nuh dont do that
@@johanvoellner1849 why not? "for systemic reason"
As a Zimbabwean, the most offensive part of this whole video is that they pay only $350 for a same-day passport replacement. We pay twice as much to hopefully get it in a month. First World problems are so adorable.
You get yours in a month? I know folks here in Nigeria who have been waiting for theirs for a year because they wouldn't bribe.
@@TheTrendDoctor Lol, I factored in the bribe, because otherwise nothing will get done.
That’s because they have to make kick backs to corrupt officials to get things done. The squeaky wheel gets the grease if you know what I mean. Start a company that does things honestly and see what happens.
Whoa!1 A month at that price? In Kenya it takes 3 weeks and costs roughly $85. Quick service may cost up to $250
@@davidkinara7709 I wonder, do you deal with corruption/bribery issues in Kenya as they describe in Zimbabwe and Nigeria
Nice save... he gave the best diplomatic answer possible.
its hard to be jewish, its hard to be jewish, its hard to be jewish in russia
LMFAO first comment to even remind me Donald Glover was on Community LOL
xD I thought how this guy comment could be pin if he have 0 likes comparison to others
I even thought mb it’s could be offensive or ppl just don’t wanna give him a like
Then I saw comment 8 hours ago
Yo
Im a jewish from russia. Pretty fucking awesome living if you ask me. Before visa and mastercard left the country that is.
@@artended lchaim bratan
"Black people just don't have the connections that my cousin has. For systemic reasons."
The fact that they're jewish lawyers makes it ambiguous which systemic advantage he's referring to. Is it the stereotype of law being dominated by jews, or is it the whole "white" thing? Either one could really apply. But the fact that this all starts with Al preferring a jewish lawyer probably means he's referring to the former.
I would love to see Donald Glover on an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where he has to defend his anti-semetism against Larry's racism
It's more about two generations worth of entertainment law connections mentioned in this clip. Plus racial segregation is still in living memory. Another 50 years, and the scales may be more balanced.
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium It's funny you mention that because I was just thinking that this episode, and this scene in particular is just like an episode of "Curb.." but written from the perspective of Donald Glover. Even their casual conversation in the waiting room. Carefully towing the line between offensive, and accurate when playing on "jewish-isms". Pretty clever that he'd be able to work in the ambiguity he'd face when hearing "For systemic reasons."
@@coletrain I agree, but why do you think they have two generations worth of entertainment law connections; because of the same type of thinking as Al's, "I want a jewish lawyer". Reference that to irl rappers who brag about having jewish lawyers. It's a self-reinforcing idea, they are assumed to be the best, to a degree that they dominate the field systemically (jewish lawyers are more expensive and are the unspoken standard), and since they're dense in clients they naturally create more connections. Since it's so lucrative for them, they make sure to pass the trade down to their descendants. Even this guy barely past his Bar Mitzvah is already a paralegal, he already understands how to work with rappers so he'll probably end up representing rappers down the line.
@@filmdude9970 YEAH I agree. Its the good kind of offensive. The slow burn. Its kind of like a metaracism or metastereotype that actually reflects on everybody else. Idk its hard to explain. It makes everyone both think & laugh, but cautiously laugh
I just realized his name is Darius X that's wild
dang adam friedland is pretty good in this
adam friedland
i think that was adam's 17 year old boy friend ari
cool adam
Yeah I heard that album, it was dope. Hey do you have a light for my black n mild?
he's not allowed to use the n word..for systemic reasons
I am happy to see a normal interaction between a Black man and a Jewish man . Instead of the hate that the media puts out.
This show is *honest*. I love Atlanta!
"when you piss, you undo your zipper or you go over the boxers?"
"Over the boxers.."
"Yeah me too"
_Jewish man in the back agrees with his eyebrows_
still amazes me, this scene🔥
I think what the guy was trying to come across is that Jews are big in the entertainment business. That’s what he could mean by connections and systemic reasons. Sometimes it pays to have the name “Feinstein” on the cease and desist than “jones.”
Better call Saul!
shaul🇮🇱🕎✡
being a black jew makes this so much funnier to me
You mean like "mixed"?
One of your parents is black, the other part is jewish!?
@@salmansengul probably means one of those black Israelite freaks
@@salmansengul no we are black jews
@@salmansengul 25% of Jews around the world are nonwhite. Only in America and Europe are the majority of Jews white, and even then it's rare to find a congregation without any Jews of color.
@@salmansengul Ethiopian jews exist
Troy looks so sad without Abed. ☹️
🥺
3:43 🎶you asked for diet coke, thats a joke right🎶🤣🤣
This show reminds me of Seinfield and Fraiser level writing w/o the laugh track
1:48 EVERY FUCKING TIME WITH THIS DUDE 💀
The pissing through the zipper discourse needs to be reevaluated. Real shit.
This show is the jeemz for reals
This makes me think of all the rappers who like to brag that their lawyers are Jewish lol
Whether or not they provide better legal representation, Jewish law firms tend to cost more cuz of more systemic shit. And everyone likes to think that more expensive = better
"6 lawyers and they all jewish" 😂
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium Jewish people have a higher education standard from the principals built from the religion. They have communities out there big or small. Varying in different levels of religiosity but community is a core thing. Jewish people have these stereotypes because accounting/taxes/land ownership-laws are all built into the Tora. The Tora was the law in ancient Jewish communities. One of the oldest civilizations is the Jews and they know that with evidence to back it up as the first religion, then so on. Imagine having all of that as a cultural background? Where race and religion are one and the same. Would I go for a Jewish lawyer? Maybe. "Jewish law firms tend to cost more cuz of more systemic shit" More like better colleges and degrees (PHDs, Masters, Ivy leagues. They have a smaller community as well that ONLY USE EACH OTHERS' SERVICES. They don't even need UberEATS to say "black owned business" cause guess what? Just say your food is "kosher" --- I.e "buy here".
"Everyone likes to think that more expensive = better" - No shit look at clothes. It applies with reason and doesn't. It's a fallacy to say just because something is expensive its better and everyone agrees with that. Also, there are cheap Jewish law firms out there and it's a stereotype to say they "tend to cost more". Supply and demand actually.
Stop thinking about racism and start attacking the STATUS QUO that's making insurance/pharmacy/hospitals scam us of getting cheaper care. Gov paying zero attention to mental health out here in the country. Cops killing people and saving their own. The homeless cities in CA that have never been there ever. ETC. If you want to change something stop complaining and go and help your neighbor. Cause the Jews have been on that since day one, with or without slavery and genocide.
@@RecentCha Very well articulated, I wish I could pin this comment
oh that's fast.
yeah it's 350$....
oh that's why LMFAO
Considering expedited passport services are close to $800 for 5-7 days that's a steal. Standard passport is like $116 for like 4-6 weeks.
Ye made me think about this scene again
It’s funny that whenever someone ask for a Jew, they specifically mean a European or European descent Jew (I know this story takes place in Europe. I’m just sayin in media in general). Not a Middle Eastern Jew. Not a African jew like a Ethiopian Jew. Etc
because only those jews refer to themselves as actual jews by the ethnoreligious group, them and others.
probably because in the states most of them are ashkenazis so by habit it's the stereotypical jew in american shows.
@@DTreatz ethopian jews alqways referred to themselves as jews. Sephardic jews from north africa also refer to themselves as jews so i dont get your point.
@@DTreatz and lets not forget about georgianjews or bukharan jews.
America only had big immigration waves from ahkenazi or russian jews. That does not mean other jewish cultures see themselves as less jewish.
@@DTreatz that's just plain false man, @DasParanoi8Projekt said it perfectly.
I love this show!
There's so much wrong with Paper Boi's thinking. A big law firm would just push him to the side to focus on clients that bring in higher revenue for them, while a smaller law firm will have the time to dedicate to each client. Plus there's literally no guarantee a Jewish lawyer won't screw him over royally. He's just going off the stereotype of the Jewish entertainment lawyer.
Noone ever said he was right. Or wrong lol
As a Jew and someone who works at a law firm, if he can afford a lawyer at a larger firm, it probably couldnt hurt.
The larger firm wouldn't care about him but the lawyer assigned to him trying to make a name for himself would. Unless he finds a unicorn like Saul Goodman going with a firm also means you have access to their records, their interns, their associates, etc. If you can afford it they justify the price.
@@napppstar0 SAUL GOODMAN IN ATLANTA?? 😳😲😲😲😤
@@napppstar0 you've never even met someone who works at a large firm. Do you have ANY idea what they can do? Do you know why NOBODY writes hit pieces about Ford? Because Hienkel and Warowitz will flood their office with cease and desist filings with an army of interns spend days creating and dissecting behind it. Consider this- a top NYC firm will get 100 interns a year. They all say the work is grueling. How many high profile clients can keep an army of interns busy for 12 months? NONE. They're not going to ruin their reputation when they can just take on 2 more interns to keep you happy, with a partner to spend 5 minutes drawing up the strategy.
Dude looked like he was pulled into a Quick Time Event when Earn asked him about the black lawyers.
I was looking for this clip for years
"Bro you could..."
One of the scenes of the show
In partna dem by bino on the stn mtn mixtape he says "this on some old atlanta shit. its not about what you know but who you know" which relates to this so much
The irony is that “big law firms” or “white shoe firms” were predominantly dominated by WASPS who often discriminated against Jews and Catholics from working there lol.
As someone from this environment, a big law firm specializes in many areas and has both a transactional/litigation side. Entertainment lawyers would fall under the transactional side and mainly negotiate and review contracts. To be honest, entertainment lawyers are a dime a dozen and anyone who passed the bar can do it lol.
I believe the joke is in relation to how there are many Jews in the entertainment industry and how they often help each other out lol.
Its a show about racism and stereotyping, and Donglover creates some good cognitive dissonance by including some risque comparisons
They discriminated against Catholics too? And now Jews and Catholics are the majority of the Supreme Court lol
With everything that’s going on today with Ye & Kyrie, this scene just keeps ringing in my head …
Yeah I guess Im going to have to delete this huh
@@PhoebeJCPSkunccMDsImagitorium nah bro, there’s nothing hateful or anti-Sem*tic about this, it’s a scene from a show stating the truth.
@@offthegridbutonyoutube548 yeah okay thanks for confirming youre thoughts 😹😹😹
Great actor Donald Glover. First seen him in Martian and for me, he made the film.
As some one dealing with passport crap, this is pretty realistic on passport stress
Why do you have to go to a lawyer to get your passport? In my country I will get an appointment then go to the police station and they will print it there for me for like 15 euros or something like that.
@@joseluki We actually don't go to a lawyer, we usually can request one within a few days at a government passport agency. However in some cases, if you have a flight within a day, you can go to a private business that will get you your passport within a couple hours. However its very expensive and especially now. America is a pretty corrupt country, just its hidden under smiles.
@@HinDoongEe Why does have to pay a private business for something that is provided by the government? Is ludicruous.
@@joseluki American government is slow on things.
$350 same day passport service seems cheap
I wish my lawyer happy hannukah he Jewish 🤣
Why is that funny? Also, your story is BS since hanukkah was 7 months ago.
@@michaelcohen9363 it's a line from song buddy chill
It’s funny this was the last episode before they went on a massively long hiatus. Also pretty much one of the last episodes that actually moved the plot. Granted in season 3 you got to see them doing their Euro tour but it was kind of just random things.
It feels like this show was constantly going back and forth not sure if they should make this more into like a black “Entourage” with character development or just make every episode a commentary on something in society.
In another world this probably exists as a more conventional plot driven show. And I’m sure it’s great. I certainly rewatched seasons 1 and 2 a lot more than 3 or 4, there’s just so many gems in 1 and 2.
After this episode basically all the other ancillary characters are dropped and it just becomes a show about the 4 main characters.
Darius is my favorite character bruh
Am I the only one that feels like Al should have gave Earn and his niece a ride instead of leaving them in the parking lot or am I overthinking it?
Well he can’t lie, so. That was a very good answer.
1:50 dude in the back right. HEAVILY judging mr. through the zipper pee pants over here
Fav part of this clip
It’s not a 1:1 ratio of well connected Jewish lawyers to black lawyers being held back for systemic reasons.
every Community reference gets pinned
'Vd
For the music business, this ain’t hardly the truth. We highly connected.
This way he ended that scene with the reaction of damn this shit fucked up but y’all taxing it to
Larry David had a good lawyer named Berg. He wasn’t jewish. But he was good.
When he found out he wasn't actually Jewish 😹
for systemic reasons
Loved this bit, just didn't like how they profiled this Jewish kid.
Not many wear sideburns like that.
Going for Chasidish or more Modern look?
more hiemish then fully chassidic. there's no yiddish accent
@@yotemtotem1246 maskim
I actually see those sideburns alot in Brooklyn so... rang true to me 🤷🏽♂️
Maybe the character is choosing to over-sell his Jewishness because he knows his clientele are looking for it.
what does SOL mean? sorry English its not my first language
Shit outta luck
We have to build our own table & chairs minus The Paper Boys of the world.
Wonder if the clerk’s uncle is named Hesh.
Finally, a man of culture
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
I think it's, uh, not good...
Clerk was cool as shit but definitely didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete
bro’s pirating it 💀
They've still got the wool over your eyes, it seems
All my lawyers Jewish .. I know they will do as much as they can to help you get out of the issue and always be recommended 💯
Wiley has left the chat
Dam dead we balled hard
it is for systemic reasons
This what Ye talking ab
Realism on tap with the Sopranos or BCS. Cant wait for next season
Procrastinators would rather pay more than renew passport or anything really early or standard time.😂😂
Which episode is this?
S02E11 "Crabs in a Barrel"
Why does PP sound so out of breath in the beginning lol
Obesity
I'm a through the zipper type of guy
Every time this show comes up, I can't unsee them trying to rehab Michael Vick. That's it. that's all there is to this show now - Michael Vick's wife helped produce it so in return they made a cute, funny little scene meant to remind you of what a great QB he was, and memory hole that his preferred method for killing dogs is drowning.
yes
People throw around the word “systemic” as if they know what it means.
By connections he means other jews.
Smartest white supremacist
Im here after what happened to Kanye...I instantly remembered this scene after the whole incident
New passport in 2 hrs for $350? Ya- I’ll take it with no snarky ‘that’s why’.
Seems like a good price to me
@@richardgomez8010 - it’s an awesome price- about what it costs to rush it in 2 weeks to a month!
It's all about who you know unfortunately
Here After Kanye / Kyrie situation
i would ask for a jewish dude for a lawyer too for sureeee
jewish lawyer
chinese doctor
american badass
nah these new comments are not it
OMG I literally just said something similar and I am black.. I was like we have zero connections and the who world is about networking.. only black group that I see well connected is the Nigerians.. and what is the richest country in Africa in terms of GDP... lol.. NIGERIA..