Got nothing but love for you bro, this has really touched me and shown me a different side of you since we've known each other. You got me for life brother ❤️👊🏾💯
Brilliant interview Billy. Doing great at making your guests comfortable & at ease in talking. True gentleman & genuine as they come bro. Keep growing the way you are. A class example of change, listening to 2 decent lads talk hard truths. Mark your a proper good guy mate. Painful memories from childhood trauma ache as a man brother. Brilliant hearing your experience pal. Bless you both & the inspiration you provide🙏🕯💚✌️
Sounds like someone (🙏) has been looking out for this lad. So many things could have ended his life or put him behind bars for life. He got through it. Everything happens for a reason apparently. Great video. 👍
I still have all the Cage Rage dvds, Mark always stood out in all those early years. He lived up to his name THE BEAST! 💪🏼 It was an inspiration in my early fighting days
Great interview there Billy. You know them guys you can tell just by looking at them they're a hard bloke. Mark's one of em . Tony Argent is another one.
I'll remember this dude staring at me at Woolwich train station I looked up and said you alright he had a fearsome look about him to say I was scared would be an understatement it's really nice to see that his perspective on life has changed we are all good people some of us come from a lot of hurt and pain and Channel in different ways but the gift is when we learn to process all this misery in a positive way.. by helping others 100% bulletproof as I give to the world so the world shall give to me treating my internal condition and making me complete... wishing everyone a blessed 2022
This guy is legit as it gets all your gangster books Lee Duffy Brian the taxman the krays viv Graeme....lock them in a cage with Mark he would destroy them all I seen this guy fight back in the day in cage rage and if he hit you your fucked plus he could wrestle and new submissions he would take them down in seconds and destroy them all your Lenny McLean and Roy Shaws this guy was on a different level not just a white collared boxer he was a trained machine they weren't but are looked at as legend's mark Epstein is one dangerous man
I admire how you both own up to your mistakes in life, totally agree that emotional pain is harder than physical pain. It sounds to me that you have both put a brick wall up to protect yourself from emotional pain and I think you both participating in podcasts is a form of counselling to help others and make others aware of the dangers in life. The best therapy in life is too talk and support others believe me im going through ptsd at moment its horrendous.
I was 14 and went through the same thing with a 28 year old woman .she owned a hairdressing shop on main Street in our city...crazy my friends mom knew and some others did but noone reported...she'd do the same mental crap...crazy to hear Mark went through that...my friends thought I was a legend , but it messes your head up for future relationships and feelings towards women.. I had my first son at 18 etc so I was way more advanced from starting young with this woman . usually it's the man preying on the girl. I got it sorted over time...people have had it worse
Enjoyed the video, there's always a sad story behind people we 'judge' at face value. What a story. Life can be a bitch. Well done for getting through it Good luck brother 🙏
I wish I make it to mark age and wisedom.Mark Epstein and Lee Murray inspired me to do mma from the street life now 33 and talking to coach about going back to mma.I left mma unbeaten and last fight was win under a minute.But I left cause didn’t like what sport became.I remember mark fights with Tom Watson and Micheal bisping.And mark weir and Ross pointon are good supportive guys
Hey mark it’s is bad when you get traumatised as a small child I think the key is to go back in time find that little boy sit down put your arm around him and tell him nothing of what happened was his fault.peace brother
Fuck they need to make a movie on you guys man that shit would be hard as fuck Lee Murray mike Epstein Paul Allen like come on guy Richy needs to do this
Off topic as only just watching but noticed the padded inlet of the black straps holding the ropes apart, that's good, very good as I don't think Mick Conlon or Nigel Benn v Gman woulda gone through them if they was like that!
To hear mark say 15 when started fighting a lot in 2001 I was 12 I knew Brazilian jiu jitsu then my dad sent me but died in 2003.People use wonder why I use win all my fight till mma boom in bout 2006 I never knew now I know.I once put a guy to sleep who killed someone’s when 13 thing was I use allways jump the near naked choke soon I get stunned by punch.I go back mma this year if I’m health and not dead or worst I got problems in Life atm.Id say Lee Murray power comes from fighting groups on yourself you think end people in 1 cause got try sleep 5 to 10 guys.It’s advance mma mark the same and Mike Tyson
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 mate your doing good I like your podcasts, I just thought maybe there’d be more talk of Murray but maybe mark ain’t allowed to say to much
BIG UP MARK👍👏👏 YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOUR BREAK DANCING DAYS🤣😂 GREAT TO SEE YOU DOING WELL SON💯🍀🤞 CATCH UP AT THE NEXT FUNERAL HAVEN'T SEEN YOU SINCE AMOS'S FUNERAL KEEP OUT OF TROUBLE NUFF RESPECT BLACK HARRY 👍
What a likeable fella Bill....nice one lads. You can tell how he carries himself with no ego that he could have a row if need be. Well I'd wager on that anyway!
Kids these days will never know what missed out on in uk mma.I was kid myself in 2005 16 watching mark thinking this guy changing his life.And had Micheal bisping in trouble for a lot fight
@@winstrolchurchill821 they give you extra stamina and strength so it's basically cheating and I know from experience I've used them in my late 20s 46 know though so been a while😂
Mark was a beast no dizoubt! I see this hommie starch man on a couple occasions. Growing up late 90s it was all about Lee, mark, Paul, fab in my borough. Not to glamorise them but as a young kid it was frighteningly inspiring and captivating.
Yeah fabaloso. he was the one I knew of first flossing. Lee come out and took it to new levels. I see how impressionable minds can easily be fooled by that lifestyle!
All your Lee Duffy and viv Graeme Brian the taxman wouldn't last a round with this man and Lee Duffy Vs Lee Murray that would be a joke Lee Murray was a legit MMA fighter faught in the UFC was good on the ground faught Anderson Silva got beat but lasted the full fight with the best MMA fighter in the world plus he knocked out Tito Ortiz the light heavyweight champion in the UFC Lee Murray dropped him with one shot in a street fight these men could punch kick wrestle submit you they weren't just boxer's or street fighters they were trained killers Lee Murray was technically great he wasn't a Lee Duffy punching bouncer's they were in a cage anything goes against Brazilian's bjj MMA trained killers Lee Duffy wouldn't last a minute against these guys
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 lol. TH-cam only promote unicorns fairies and the lgbtqwrcvyu movement or whatever it is today. They are probably hiding your likes because they don't like it. The irony eh. I liked it anyway. Boom 💥 👍👍
Wot a nice chap great he can laugh now about his tough upbringing great he turned his life round with the cage fighting billy from dave the rave in Scouseland
Oh god story of teacher.That inspired the naughty me when knew these authority’s figure are people.So went with few police women and mental health nurses and lawyers and few auntys lmfaoo
Love the Friday downloads . Been gym 💪now my evening sorted ! Thanks Billy 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks 🙏
Billy your interviews just keep getting better , nice to see a fellow london boy on , your pod cast channel is by far the best !!! Keep them coming
Thanks 🙏
Loved this. What a man, who lived through hell but came out on top. I hope there is a part 2. There seems to be more to be told.
Got nothing but love for you bro, this has really touched me and shown me a different side of you since we've known each other. You got me for life brother ❤️👊🏾💯
Brilliant interview Billy. Doing great at making your guests comfortable & at ease in talking. True gentleman & genuine as they come bro. Keep growing the way you are. A class example of change, listening to 2 decent lads talk hard truths. Mark your a proper good guy mate. Painful memories from childhood trauma ache as a man brother. Brilliant hearing your experience pal. Bless you both & the inspiration you provide🙏🕯💚✌️
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Sounds like someone (🙏) has been looking out for this lad. So many things could have ended his life or put him behind bars for life. He got through it. Everything happens for a reason apparently. Great video. 👍
I was a fan of those early MMA shows Mark was fighting on. Good of him to share his story. Feels like there a lot more stories in Mark. Good stuff.
Times are hard n friends are few I've come over to your pod to have a wee view 😀 Nice one Billy happy Friday to you 👌
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Always been interested in Marks story ever since first seeing him in cage rage way back when , and he didn’t disappoint. Class work Billy
Thanks mate
I still have all the Cage Rage dvds, Mark always stood out in all those early years. He lived up to his name THE BEAST! 💪🏼 It was an inspiration in my early fighting days
Class podcast billy, two awesome dudes who fought thru adversity
Nice one ☝️
Best podcast out there great work Bill, getting great guest on, remember watching Mark in the Cage rage days always an exciting fighter to watch.
Thank you my mate appreciate your support 👌🙌
Great interview there Billy. You know them guys you can tell just by looking at them they're a hard bloke. Mark's one of em . Tony Argent is another one.
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Why would people dislike this podcast!! Mental, great podcast
I'll remember this dude staring at me at Woolwich train station I looked up and said you alright he had a fearsome look about him to say I was scared would be an understatement it's really nice to see that his perspective on life has changed we are all good people some of us come from a lot of hurt and pain and Channel in different ways but the gift is when we learn to process all this misery in a positive way.. by helping others 100% bulletproof as I give to the world so the world shall give to me treating my internal condition and making me complete... wishing everyone a blessed 2022
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This guy is legit as it gets all your gangster books Lee Duffy Brian the taxman the krays viv Graeme....lock them in a cage with Mark he would destroy them all I seen this guy fight back in the day in cage rage and if he hit you your fucked plus he could wrestle and new submissions he would take them down in seconds and destroy them all your Lenny McLean and Roy Shaws this guy was on a different level not just a white collared boxer he was a trained machine they weren't but are looked at as legend's mark Epstein is one dangerous man
Ur at it😂😅😅
@@DK-sv6on Your bang on m8 and well put!! Keep safe and well m8. 🤞
I admire how you both own up to your mistakes in life, totally agree that emotional pain is harder than physical pain. It sounds to me that you have both put a brick wall up to protect yourself from emotional pain and I think you both participating in podcasts is a form of counselling to help others and make others aware of the dangers in life. The best therapy in life is too talk and support others believe me im going through ptsd at moment its horrendous.
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Fantastic interview! Can see the empathy coming from both sides. Real recognise Real.
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Great work again bill... really look forward to Your podcasts...,👌
Great interview Bill
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Great podcast need a 2nd one Billy lad
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Great Podcast this Billy
Thanks 🙏
Did time with this awesome guy back in 2000, real gent , ran the wing lol , no one fkd with the beast , respect to you mark , hope all is well
I was 14 and went through the same thing with a 28 year old woman .she owned a hairdressing shop on main Street in our city...crazy my friends mom knew and some others did but noone reported...she'd do the same mental crap...crazy to hear Mark went through that...my friends thought I was a legend , but it messes your head up for future relationships and feelings towards women.. I had my first son at 18 etc so I was way more advanced from starting young with this woman . usually it's the man preying on the girl. I got it sorted over time...people have had it worse
What an excellent interview... What a mad story he has... Unbelievable... Excellent Bill.. 👍🏻👌
Thanks you ☝️👌
proper good interview
Great interview! As for Mark, proper stand up guy💯
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Brilliant podcast Billy and how real was he. Wow brilliant
Just in time 👏👏👏👏🔥👌cheers Billy and Mark
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@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 😂👍
Looking forward to a podcast with the beast, i remember him competing back in the hayday of British MMA
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Another boss one Billy lad, yer never fail to entertain mate 👍🏻👏🏻
Thanks 🙏
Enjoyed the video, there's always a sad story behind people we 'judge' at face value. What a story. Life can be a bitch. Well done for getting through it Good luck brother 🙏
I wish I make it to mark age and wisedom.Mark Epstein and Lee Murray inspired me to do mma from the street life now 33 and talking to coach about going back to mma.I left mma unbeaten and last fight was win under a minute.But I left cause didn’t like what sport became.I remember mark fights with Tom Watson and Micheal bisping.And mark weir and Ross pointon are good supportive guys
This guy is a character,but defo a character not to be messed with
awesome guest , part 2 is needed
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Hey mark it’s is bad when you get traumatised as a small child I think the key is to go back in time find that little boy sit down put your arm around him and tell him nothing of what happened was his fault.peace brother
Be great watch this .. all tune in💪🏻
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Need part 2, good podcast.
Saw Mark fight a few times at cage rage. Always came to fight and put on a good show
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Fuck they need to make a movie on you guys man that shit would be hard as fuck Lee
Murray mike Epstein Paul Allen like come on guy Richy needs to do this
Really relatable guy to such a big percent of our population unfortunately but look at him now respectable and great fella
Off topic as only just watching but noticed the padded inlet of the black straps holding the ropes apart, that's good, very good as I don't think Mick Conlon or Nigel Benn v Gman woulda gone through them if they was like that!
Listened to most of the main podasters ,Billys style is the best imo.
Thanks 🙏
Good this bill could do a part 2 💯
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The dogs bollox. Absolute nails , the both of you ! Keep going on your chosen paths , bless 🍻
Brilliant remember this guy on cage rage fascinating story.
Great podcast , all the best the beast 👍
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He went to my sons primary school how crazy is that .. the world is so small ..
Massive respect to the beast him and Lee Murray 2 of the best fighters and characters uk has produced
you think lee is a character,he was a scumbag.
Wicked episode bill, will u be having mark back on and discussing lee Murray more ?
Gr8 pod again B
Thanks 🙏
All the best Mark, I mean that mate. 👍
Show's he's easy listening as it's one of your longest pod's Bill no?
Mark maybe lee couldn’t ask you on the job- best thing you never did lol , no amount of money is worth them years of one’s life.
Hope your well mark
one of the nicest guys your meet
How long do we have to wait for Lee to come on the podcast
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went to southlands school with mark, he looked after me when when i first got their. he was a very funny guy nothing but fond memories of him
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HMP SOUTHLANDS 🤣🤣👊🏽😎 hope your well Devlin 👊🏽😎🙏🏾👊🏽
Am sure Mark used to knock about with Lee Murray .. think they was from the same estate
Best friends 👍🙌
Lee Murray would be a unbelievable guest
Yes both from the Woolwich area. Used to see them regularly in Woolwich back in the day.
You watch Marks fights Murray is his conerman in most
Good one Billy
Brilliant podcast Billy, not very happy with Lee leaving him of that job it seems
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Loved this one.
My son is autistic as well.
Just makes you realise your not on your own in this life 👊🏻
mine is too...I have 5 kids..4 sons... my youngest son is autistic... I worked with autistic kids too when I was young in a private school...
Brilliant interview 👊🏼 nuff love & respect for mark 💯❤️
Back at you hun,yourself a real one and day 1 orginal 😘👊🏽😎🙏🏾❤👑
Is that Allen as in Paul Allen ????
Great podcast, looks well for 52 after all he's been through
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To hear mark say 15 when started fighting a lot in 2001 I was 12 I knew Brazilian jiu jitsu then my dad sent me but died in 2003.People use wonder why I use win all my fight till mma boom in bout 2006 I never knew now I know.I once put a guy to sleep who killed someone’s when 13 thing was I use allways jump the near naked choke soon I get stunned by punch.I go back mma this year if I’m health and not dead or worst I got problems in Life atm.Id say Lee Murray power comes from fighting groups on yourself you think end people in 1 cause got try sleep 5 to 10 guys.It’s advance mma mark the same and Mike Tyson
The guy's voice is only one or two octaves higher than Frank Bruno. It's so deep he has to go in a decompression chamber for an hour every morning. 😉
No mention of the Lee Murray days was expecting a bit more excitement to this interview
It was the first time I’d heard of Lee myself so moving forward we’ll get on it 🙌
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 mate your doing good I like your podcasts, I just thought maybe there’d be more talk of Murray but maybe mark ain’t allowed to say to much
@@tko1tko140 he seemed pissed off Murray didn't invite him on that job so probably didn't want to talk about him
@@jpcwindows1772 what’s he moaning for he’s lucky he weren’t on that job because they all got lifed of lol
@@tko1tko140 well one got away, the guy who dressed as a copper but yeah should be glad he weren't on it
BIG UP MARK👍👏👏 YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOUR BREAK DANCING DAYS🤣😂 GREAT TO SEE YOU DOING WELL SON💯🍀🤞 CATCH UP AT THE NEXT FUNERAL HAVEN'T SEEN YOU SINCE AMOS'S FUNERAL KEEP OUT OF TROUBLE NUFF RESPECT BLACK HARRY 👍
Aww man he fell in love 😍 with Snow White . I love this guy !
What a likeable fella Bill....nice one lads. You can tell how he carries himself with no ego that he could have a row if need be. Well I'd wager on that anyway!
Man if he can mess with Bisping he's a tuff cooky. !! Respect. Gonna watch the bisping fight now! 👍
Mark’s my dads friend Eddie.. top bloke great man great respect ✊💙
Wanna see this guy find and interview lee Murray! #freeleemurray
Kids these days will never know what missed out on in uk mma.I was kid myself in 2005 16 watching mark thinking this guy changing his life.And had Micheal bisping in trouble for a lot fight
Remember watching Mark in cage rage. He was a genuine hard guy. He fought Michael Bisping, great fight. 👍
I went to both those fights man
I remember seeing Lee Murray in his corner the first time they fought
@Calub Park what’s the steroids part got to do with it?
@@winstrolchurchill821 they give you extra stamina and strength so it's basically cheating and I know from experience I've used them in my late 20s 46 know though so been a while😂
@@Al-to7qk 😂 fair play mate👌🏻👌🏻
I had life like mark and i respect him for open up regarding his life enjoy listening to product.
Thank you getting Mark Epstein on I seen him at events and when seen bisping and talk people bout mma who fought bisping I think of MARK and Lee
rocking a all blacks jersery what a lord
What a legend this guy is. Never mind Lee Murray someone should make a film about Mark Epstein’s life.
Also, pretty sure “Charlie” is Charlie Kray…
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why you think it is Charlie kray?
@@elstoniobanderas4091 Got 12 years for importing coke in the late 90s and was operating in the Woolwich area
@@mickymozay9636 Sweet mate. Thanks.
Hope he talks about bisping
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EPPY showed me round Southlands was same dorm for a minute..
Yes Clint, HMP southlands🤣🤣👊🏽😎
mark is a fucking legend!!! the real beast from the south east 👊👊👊👊👊👊
Yes 🙌
Love you too m8👊🏽😎❤👑 your a Legend 👊🏽😎❤👑
@@markepstein791 my brother hope your well 👊🙏💙
Solid Hoodie brudda
Hopefully the chaps will support UK against people the legalised Gangsters =‘Goverment
My good friend there 👊🏾❤️💯 have known him since I was a kid and he was nothing but a gentleman and a brother ❤️👊🏾
Mark was a beast no dizoubt! I see this hommie starch man on a couple occasions. Growing up late 90s it was all about Lee, mark, Paul, fab in my borough. Not to glamorise them but as a young kid it was frighteningly inspiring and captivating.
who was fab? fabien?
Yeah fabaloso. he was the one I knew of first flossing. Lee come out and took it to new levels. I see how impressionable minds can easily be fooled by that lifestyle!
@@kamgunner5920 what is flossing? fabien give me a clump when i was about 12
@@kamgunner5920 where you from woolwich? plumstead?
@@kamgunner5920 do you know which club mark was talking about, which he ran? and became a crackhouse after?
Is right Billy.
Used to enjoy watching mark fight .
Good fighter
Anyone know which club he's talking about, where he was head of security?
House n terrace, now its @338👊🏽😎
@@markepstein791 Nice one Mark. 👊
10 and 26?
i meet mark at hmyoi dover, 1989.
Hope your well fella HNY to ya👊🏽😎
When he said spastic I nearly spat my beer out 😂
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Such a good guest but the line of questioning was poor. Could have delved in a lot deeper here
Yes I was really raw back then plus it was awkward for both of us initially.
Part 2 Billy !!!
Where's Darren gutted he's not on this Billy
It’s this coming Darren’s mate building up a hype 🙌💪🏻
Good story tell er
All your Lee Duffy and viv Graeme Brian the taxman wouldn't last a round with this man and Lee Duffy Vs Lee Murray that would be a joke Lee Murray was a legit MMA fighter faught in the UFC was good on the ground faught Anderson Silva got beat but lasted the full fight with the best MMA fighter in the world plus he knocked out Tito Ortiz the light heavyweight champion in the UFC Lee Murray dropped him with one shot in a street fight these men could punch kick wrestle submit you they weren't just boxer's or street fighters they were trained killers Lee Murray was technically great he wasn't a Lee Duffy punching bouncer's they were in a cage anything goes against Brazilian's bjj MMA trained killers Lee Duffy wouldn't last a minute against these guys
Bit of an anti climax when he was smoking crack putting 2 in a fella and one hits his vest 🤣🤣
Wasn’t he an MMA fighter cage fighting appearing on TV a few times ?
Yes
285 likes after 22k views for a great video? Something strange there. 🤔
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@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 lol. TH-cam only promote unicorns fairies and the lgbtqwrcvyu movement or whatever it is today. They are probably hiding your likes because they don't like it. The irony eh. I liked it anyway. Boom 💥 👍👍
@@colspiracy8326 thanks 🙏
Wot a nice chap great he can laugh now about his tough upbringing great he turned his life round with the cage fighting billy from dave the rave in Scouseland
Thanks 🙏
I cannot wait pal
It’s a good one ☝️
Oh god story of teacher.That inspired the naughty me when knew these authority’s figure are people.So went with few police women and mental health nurses and lawyers and few auntys lmfaoo
it wasn't a relationship it was abuse