You have no idea how hard it is, yet! It is becoming a common language in technology. I don't understand scientific or technical lingo in my native language (Chinese and Russian look easier). Even if you are an auto mechanic.
@@rafaelsantana5802 It is plain simple for scientific mechanical and engineering stuff, when I was in School I had to get my researches in English because in Castellano was simply some other language not even a god understands and I am not the only one that feels the same, some pro people agree with me on that, they did the same.
@@zordanxxx man, i dont know if its difficult for peoples from other countrys , and maybe it is true for some, probably because of the pronounce, cause of the sound of the letters. Some language may be missing some sounds comparing to the english language Maybe for chinese that have no strong 'R' or 'H' sounds
@@aomanchutube windows is very streamlined it downloads drivers and update almost instantly ,on Linux you have to make everything work and a random update that has bugs could break yo ur whole system unlike windows ,Linux is just not ready for mainstream production
@@joeyfranky3120 LOL. I don't even remember the conversation. But it depends on what you do on Linux. If you for example use your phone, you're using a modified version of Linux. A branch with a new name and development cycle called Android. If you fly any of the air defense planes, you are using Linux... The real time kernel modified and maintained for aircraft. Linux is so solid that you never hear about all the stuff it does. You only read about the bugs...which is great because that is exactly what the community wants. We send out bug reports and the bugs get catalogued, tested for reputability, assigned a solver and finally integrated. Winders on the other hand, has a small team of developers who couldn't hold a candle to what the Linux team can do. To me, a windows machine is for babies, it always eventually gets deprecated and you must jump ship. Think about it... The Gimp, can open files it created a decade AGO. Windows on the other hand doesn't even have a native photo program. Photoshop doesn't support files from a decade ago. Do what good is it to take a picture or video and use after effects if you can't expect it to open up for your children to see? Linux is not just for desktop use... Not even close. It's for everything else that windows just can't. The raspberry pi has 30 some IO outputs... I've been using it for several years now for my security cameras. They update regularly and the only thing I do is get the video on NFS and clean spider webs on it.
@@aomanchutube raspberry pi is special as all hardware that the rasbian team has to deal with is linear and mostly the same , and is made to tinker with that's why is has so much io inputs/outputs . A Intel nuc would be so much better depending on what you do . Cad and most 3d software is barely decent now on Linux and most all medical equipment is run by windows os ,and system breaks Linux can randomly have is the downfall for me and driver issues that seem to always arrive even with so called supported hardware on linux, not streamlined for ease of use ,then you get the "just learn command idiots " aparently Linux people like to make thing take long but look cooler if your into command like text . I prefer gui on all apps .
@@aomanchutube great point on Android being a branch of Linux, personally I think both Linux and Windows have their uses and which you use should be based on what you need/use the computer for, as far as Rasberry Pi, I haven't had a chance to try one but they sound fun, and IO(Input Output) outputs? was the extra "output" really necessary?
I personally refused to use the Fusion because if I remember correctly the EULA says that everything made in Fusion basically belongs to Autodesk. The inconsistency in Freecad certainly drives away a lot of potential users.
I'm not saying to choose Fusion, but according to them: "Your content is yours" www.autodesk.com/company/legal-notices-trademarks/terms-of-service-autodesk360-web-services/autodesk-360-terms-of-service
@@Insertnamehere58 The person you are answering to is confusing the student license which makes sense. They give you Fusion for free for your entire student time. Logical that the stuff you made officially don't belong to you.
@@Insertnamehere58 Whenever you're dealing with these "free for hobbyists/students" kinda programs and don't pay for the license and use it for free, nothing you make using that software belongs to you
@THEGODFATHER It probably wouldn't affect patents since it's still your idea. Theoretically you can file a patent without using it commercially. Just storing your idea. But depending on the software, yes, it may well be that every file belongs to them if you have specifically the STUDENT version. at least thats the case with Maya.
I was a Sketchup fan and was in early with that program. Like 360 they went to cloud based and that killed it for me. I dont want to have to connect to the cloud to be productive. I work in remote areas where internet is not always available so being at the mercy of both internet connectivity and the whims of a company that has all my work on their servers makes me very uncomfortable.
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@jvh22a yes. The "non-pirated" "non-cracked version" of software i.e. Illegally acquired & used is the only one that's free & allows to save on computer easily. The legal version is a trap, you pay annually or monthly & files are saved to fusion360's server, and not locally "just yours" it's in the cloud. It kills the ownership ofthe work you made. Yeah some people will speak up that you have hacks or better say work around to save locally, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you cannot have "absolute" saving of your work offline, in other cloud save software it goes to "their" server.
The part movement you mentioned at 5:10 can be done in FreeCAD by either double-clicking on the part (if you're in assembly) or primitive, or by right-clicking on the part name in the Label & Attributes list and selecting Transform. It will display 3 arrows and arcs with ball-handles for moving and rotating (respectively) somewhat similar to what you show (but brighter colors and heavier). If it's not a primitive or a part in an assembly, Transform won't be the default for double-clicking, hence the right-click menu option. Edit: I come from an '80s-'90s CAD background, having used AutoCAD (the original) and Pro/ENGINEER. If you've ever used Pro/E, the Part Design workbench (as opposed to the Part workbench) will be very familiar. You create a body, then within it a sketch (it will automatically take you temporarily into the sketcher) where you can create a complex shape. You then can perform numerous operations with that shape, from the obvious pad or pocket to sweeping cuts to lofting and piping (where it can change cross-section based on additional sketches along the length), etc.
I do some moves like that on my TH-cam channel (in french 'cause i'm french) Beside that, i started CAD with Solidworks that i more-or-less liked, then i discover FreeCAD in 2011/2012, i reuse it more often since 2019 and now i do some tutorials sometimes... and the subscribtions follow very well 'cause i had only 2 or 3 subscribers in january 2020, now i'm at 157 subscribers (and it seems still growing...)
@@jaimeduncan6167 I'm not sure what you mean. I figured it out simply by double-clicking the part the first time I fired up FreeCAD, no-one told me, I didn't read it, it just seemed like an obvious action to take. Later on, I was poking through the right-click menus on the parts and that's what was highlighted by default. I've no idea at all what you mean by "the quality of the part". He's demonstrating a cylinder and a cube. What measure of "quality" could there possibly be? Also, you're replying to a 4 year old comment on what's effectively an ancient version of FreeCAD. 0.20 is far, far better than 0.19 and 0.19 is massively better than 0.18 (what's in the video). 0.21 has pre-release versions out too.
FreeCAD keeps getting better every year. A functional assembly workbench will make a huge difference in FreeCAD. Some things do break, and some things aren't working, but I've been using it for quite a few projects.
Lol, man they have 5 assembly workbenches: one more broken than another I don't normally use CAD software because I'm a Blender kinda guy, so it's not like I'm comparing it to other, paid software, but even for someone who doesn't need much in the ways of assembly I can say it just does cut it, man Like, I do all these constraints z they get solved once but I can't interact with the model afterwards, like you can't click on things and see them move. I know Fusion can do this but even Blender can do that, lmao
But I do agree with you: Blender is becoming the industry standard and there's JACK SHIT Autodesk can do about it. Checkmate: they've lost Open-source is going to win, long term ALWAYS Companies just can't employ the amount of pure genius and talent that usually gets gathered around ample open-source projects Right now, FreeCAD is where Blender 1.75 was It's got a small development team, bad user interface and only enough functionality to get the job done ... barely ... if you're patient enough The devs can take their time and eventually when more people start using it and more people become interested in it's development it's soon going to have all the top tier features and then some, and when the functionality reaches this level they'll even overhaul the interface and just you wait as it'll be the most gorgeous and beautiful CAD program ever made: noone can compete with open-source in terms of creativity. But that will be the icing on the cake: Blender users had to wait 20 years before they got a nice interface but now that we have it, it completely eclipses the competition in terms of aesthetic, speed, and functionality Be patient, my friends FreeCAD will get there ... One day ... Unless some madlad tries to fix the NURBS modelling in Blender and makes it accesibile through the modifiers, at which point FreeCAD could become obsolete overnight :P
@@jaimeduncan6167 I worry about the piecemeal approach to modules. GRASS GIS has the same approach, and it's a nightmare hodge-podge of modules all taking different approaches to fixing problems and being incompatible with each other. Right now, I think there's at least three currently maintained assembly workbenches, none of which can work on assemblies made by the others because they take completely different approaches.
i remember when Microshaft announced the end of Win7 support and when Adobe and Co went into full on subscription mode. It was the day i took the jump to linux. no regrets ever since. whenever i went open source, it started to pay off years down the line...
As an old architect, an amateur historian, and a bit of an archivist, I would like to stay from anything cloud based or subscription based. Stuff happens. Wars, lightning strikes, earthquakes, tsunamis, recessions. Who wants to lose all their hard earned CAD files if something happens to the cloud. What happens if the big corporations want to change the terms of the contract again? Can you afford to pay for a CAD subscription if you are laid off for a year or two? Do you want to risk losing the stuff you have created for decades? Stuff happens. We are still reading clay tablets that are 4 thousand years old. Keep your data secure.
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
as a student i've been using F360 for free but i've been switching to freecad and i have to say if you want to make products, learning freecad is well worth it. Plus i don't like to rely on Autodesk which litteraly kill his competitors and need you to always be connected
I wouldn't call FreeCAD super easy to use. I've never used their CAM module either. I build the git source of FreeCAD. Right now I have version FreeCAD 0.18, Libs: 0.18R14713 (Git). It is stable on my system too.
The FreeCAD Path is under heavy development I know, man I've had to fuck around with it for 4 hours before I could cut a square The whole set-up process is extremely confusing: you can NOT, NO WAY comprehend how you align your stock by yourself you have to go watch tutorials, unfortunately for me, that's not something I usually do, since with most software it's quicker to just muck about with all the buttons till you figure it out than watch some Indian tell you "press x to delete"
Hi, I am 73yrs young. Retired Vietnam Veteran and just got into this 3d printer thing for something to keep my mind active and so I have been using fusion 360 and learning it for two months when this has happened. Do you think that Freecad would be good to change to considering my age.
Freecad is free as in libre and quite powerful, but it suffers from some annoying usability issues. For example scaling a part should be a simple action right? No, you have to go into draft, select the part, choose coordinate to scale from (no simple choices like from bottom, top, center etc.), scale by a factor (you can't choose a measurement) and if you mess up you have to start all over because you can't edit after the fact. And some of the options don't appear to do anything. And 0.18 has a bug with scaling by fractions that requires a workaround. I don't mean to get too worked up over something which is free and worked on by volunteers, but usability can make the difference between a crap tool and a good one.
Interested to see this, after ditching Fusion 360 yesterday because of the Cloud issue. I've used FreeCAD - main problem is the lack on internal consistency highlighted here, which is tricky if it's not your main 3D program - too easy to forget how to use it between projects. I hear good things about Blender too, but more for organic modelling rather than parametric.
I'm sticking with freecad, it's been there for a long time, looks like it will be around a long time in future. It's hard to use, but once you learn it, it does the job.
I started out using AutoCAD on a student license back in the late '80s so yeah it's been awhile. Later I really got into SketchUp when it was owned by Google and completely free to use. I still have a SketchUp and Layout license on a yearly basis but not for much longer, as that company has basically abandoned development to the add-on makers, yet continues to charge a steep yearly license. Then you have the current issues with Fusion 360 and Autodesk changing the rules of the game and severely limiting who can use it and how on the "free" version. Dealing with all this closed source software and the purely profit-driven companies behind them was one of the main drivers behind my switching to Linux about 10 years ago. I would say all of these are decent programs if you're working in the engineering or architecture industries where their cost is not unreasonable. However I am a artist and hobbyist with wide-ranging interests that I dabble in but on a serious basis. I finally settled on Bender as my main 3D program and it is absolutely astonishing, but admittedly not a solid/cad/cam program. When I first looked at FreeCAD a few years ago I dismissed it but it has come a very long way since then. If I were starting I would definitely consider freecad and just learn its idiosyncrasies because at its rate of development it is looking like the next blender of the cad cam world. And you will never be faced with your designs getting stuck in the cloud and being forced to license software you can't really afford for an app that isn't really being developed anymore because the corporation behind it is just resting on its laurels of market dominance and system lock-in.
I love FreeCad but sometimes it's a nightmare, for example Draft Workbench is very imprecise in Fusion I don't have these problems. But there's no Linux version of Fusion so I have to use VM...nothing it's perfect.
Hallo und danke für die Videorheihe. Da habe ich doch gleich mal eine Frage... Ich möchte eine ovale Holzscheibe ca 40x20 mm und 2 mm hoch in einen 3D Druck einbetten. Ich muss die Scheibe erst scannen und dann dem Drucker beibringen, das der Raum, der von dem Holz eingenommen wird, nicht mehr gedruckt werden muss... Denkst Du das geht, und wenn ja, hast Du Lust Dir mal darüber gedanken zu machen. Danke für die Mühe.
You can move objects on freeCad with the mouse along the axes. Not only parametric like showed here in the video. Just double click the object and you can place it manually.
I wonder if there is a budget version of SolidWorks electrical? SolidWorks can link the whole machine together; 3D parts, PLC schematics, smart wiring harness. 😎 Thank you.
I like Fusion 360 because of the free freezing up my computer after 20 min of work, it's so awesome, so now gonna try Freecad, thanx for the information....
Autodesk wiped out 2 years of my work with no warning and didn't respond to my replies to restore the files. I'm learning blender now, hoping to find a good Fusion360 alternative.
hi freecad is more comparable with Inventor or SOLIDWORKS there is a lot of addon the version 0.18.1. there are functions that were not present in your video
Assume you are aware AutoDesk has changed their licencing model to either "StartUp" which "excludes" specifically in writing hobby business and the only other alternative is a non-commercial version earning less then $1,000 per year (which is contradictory). So while with your summary at this point in time i agree with, to remain "legal" (now), I am seriously looking again at FreeCad...
I spent 2 days learning FreeCAD and when I got to drilling for a caphead screw, it did not work, was buggy and I was not able to create it. I will try Fusion360 now. I am apprehensive though about going with a big company that I am the mercy of.
As a hobbyiste I started with FreeCAD just because it's free. There are bugs and sometimes you spend more time turning around than designing. It's although quite functional. I love the parametric possibilities of FreeCAD. I always include a Spreadsheet in the workbench where I put all the dimensions and then I refence dimensions all around from there. Need another copy twice longer ? Just change the Spreadsheet ! I started using Fusion 360 because the Path workbench of FreeCAD is too limited for my projects. So I export my assembly in STEP format and import it in Fusion just to generate Gcode.
@@kdanagger6894 Blender is more for the artistic side of modeling. If you need precise measurements and constraints it's POSSIBLE in Blender but it's. Major pain in the butt and you have to worry about your model staying manifold and printable etc on top of actually designing your part. It's a very, very different workflow and not suited to cad use.
Completely unable to use f 360 (I have no wifi, only internet on my phone)... so besides freecad, what else are viable options? Definately going to try freecad though.
FreeCAD works well for me because I'm somewhat of a beginner, and I don't make too complicated parts. it's a bit glitchy but once you know it, it works pretty well. Also you kinda can move things freely: click on the X, Y or Z coordinate and use the scroll wheel to change it's value. It's not quite as convenient as other paid softwares, but it's litterally a free piece of software, and it's doing pretty well.
Things I don't like in Fusion 360 is that you cannot buy the software outrightly but only subscribe for a period of time and at their mercy. Secondly, you must only safe your works in the clouds with no option of your local drive for privacy. That's a kind of slavery
I do, as I'm a student, I basically still get the same thing. But even the new hobby version isn't that bad, most of the limitations are a bit of an inconvenience, but have easy workarounds.
Im, in sort of same situation and just started evaluating if onshape could be a viable option, runs on linux, cloudbased, could be used for free (if you share what you do). have you had a look at it?
I'm not sure this is really a comparison. As far as I can tell only one feature (part movement) was actually compared. There is a lot of mention of aspects but not really any concrete examples or side-by-side use. An actual comparison would be a fairly intense video to make and require excellent knowledge/experience with both software.
So do other people agree FreeCad is the best alternative? I had been planning on using fusion 360 but the price is way too much if they are going to eventually take away the free version.
Fusion360 seems esier for you because you learned it before FreeCAD. I know people who learned free software first and for them is the opposite. Moving to private software is a pain.
In a discussion with a design instructor about mouse vs. stylus CAD input devices, he said, "Whatever you were trained on is 'Mother'...". He meant that you become used to and will run back to whatever you first learned and became proficient, and the same is true for software and their user interfaces. As the comments indicated, his preference about how Fusion360 moves parts is only because he wasn't fully aware of the FreeCAD methods to do the same thing. For me... free and parametric is gold in a CAD program. I started with a lead holder, drawing board, and a T-square before learning Computervision CADDS3, who became CADDS4, 4X, and eventually, Pro/Engineer. That software could be used in multiple industries ( I designed industrial boilers, metal electronic enclosures, solid machined models, and even PCBs, and their production drawings, depending on which sub-package I was using). FreeCAD appears to be similar, with sub-packages such as Arch, BIM, Part, Assembly, Draft, etc.... Two things I got from that instructor that stayed with me my entire career: About software and input devices: "What you were trained on is 'Mother'...." About design formulas: "What you use every day, you remember. What you don't use every day, remember where to look it up..."
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I have given Autodesk thousands of dollars over the last three decades, my software is now obsolete and cannot be installed. The big problem I have with Fusion 360 is the inability to export a DWG or DXF to a laser or waterjet
Great I just started using Freecad but no for CNC yet. I m just trying to understand the workflow as I came from blender, I have tried installing fusion360 but got a connection problem and no one on their forum helped me .
FreeCAD and Blender are very different type of programs for very different purposes. FreeCAD is a CAD software for construction and simulation of real world objects. Blender is a 3d modeler software to create illusions and things, that can't be done in the real world.
I have no problem understanding that Autodesk want to have paid for their software, but for personal use, after one year free is up, the price is to stiff.495 USD/year. For personal use I was expecting something like 200 USD/year...
I have not used freecad since, but last time I checked out fusion in the browser it was still more or less a public beta, not sure if they released any update in recent months though.
And you cant use fusion 360 on older pcs.....not compatible.....freecad is way better since once u have the software you can use it indefinitely....fusion 360 is web based so they control you
Have you seen IronCAD? I would be interested in hearing you compare it with Fusion360. As a newbie I found it far, far easier to get to grips with than Fusion360, and its support and training videos score 20 out of 10. Autodesk comes nowhere near. IronCAD actually called me, and produced a customised training video for me to assist me with a specific problem. And if you submit a sketch they will send you a customised video telling you how to produce it in their software. But, sadly, it is not free, except for the first, trial month. :-((
I never used it, and you also experienced one of the advantages of paid software, they can actually employ people to help you. It seems to be more targeted towards businesses though, as they don't even directly list a price, just tell you to request a quote.
Always Remember: *"The Cloud"* is somebody else's computer, they can do whatever they like with your hard work, including pulling the plug or putting your files behind a paywall Avoid the cloud.
@@tmlrobotics5446 It still subject to license that will last exactly as long as Autodesk feels like it so it can end anytime where as FreeCAD is truly Free in every sense of the word.
yes. The "non-pirated" "non-cracked version" of software i.e. Illegally acquired & used is the only one that's free & allows to save on computer easily. The legal version is a trap, you pay annually or monthly & files are saved to fusion360's server, and not locally "just yours" it's in the cloud. It kills the ownership ofthe work you made. Yeah some people will speak up that you have hacks or better say work around to save locally, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you cannot have "absolute" saving of your work offline, in other cloud save software it goes to "their" server.
@@gjj008 It has a mirror tool in sketch mode. The lack of a true 3D mirror tool is a minor shortcoming compared to everything else it provides. It has the fastest workflow of any CAD system I've ever used (except ANSYS SpaceClaim). The direct modelling engine is superb - better and more intuitive than Fusion 360 or anything else for that matter... DesignSpark is essentially ANSYS SpaceClaim lite for free. Highly under rated and under appreciated.
Who else is here because you just found out Fusion is no longer free?
Me
*wave* Even more painful because I'm literally building my first CNC machine with a 4th axis
@@glacius331 th-cam.com/video/6sEzrnasdgo/w-d-xo.html 4axis in FreeCad ;-)
Yep, this video is exactly what I was searching for.
Fusion 360 is no longer free ???
i want to commend you for doing your videos in English though not your native language. Respect.
You have no idea how hard it is, yet! It is becoming a common language in technology. I don't understand scientific or technical lingo in my native language (Chinese and Russian look easier). Even if you are an auto mechanic.
@@zordanxxx English is easy bro
@@rafaelsantana5802 It is plain simple for scientific mechanical and engineering stuff, when I was in School I had to get my researches in English because in Castellano was simply some other language not even a god understands and I am not the only one that feels the same, some pro people agree with me on that, they did the same.
@@zordanxxx man, i dont know if its difficult for peoples from other countrys , and maybe it is true for some, probably because of the pronounce, cause of the sound of the letters. Some language may be missing some sounds comparing to the english language
Maybe for chinese that have no strong 'R' or 'H' sounds
But as a brazilian, I dont really think english is difficult. But i apologize for being somehow meanie man, i didnt mean that, Good morning :)
I'm a Solidworks user and started to use Freecad because is realy free and parametric. The drawing files are very light too.
once I'm more able with Freecad, I'm getting rid of my windows system. This and blender are awesome.
@@aomanchutube windows is very streamlined it downloads drivers and update almost instantly ,on Linux you have to make everything work and a random update that has bugs could break yo
ur whole system unlike windows ,Linux is just not ready for mainstream production
@@joeyfranky3120 LOL. I don't even remember the conversation. But it depends on what you do on Linux. If you for example use your phone, you're using a modified version of Linux. A branch with a new name and development cycle called Android. If you fly any of the air defense planes, you are using Linux... The real time kernel modified and maintained for aircraft. Linux is so solid that you never hear about all the stuff it does. You only read about the bugs...which is great because that is exactly what the community wants. We send out bug reports and the bugs get catalogued, tested for reputability, assigned a solver and finally integrated. Winders on the other hand, has a small team of developers who couldn't hold a candle to what the Linux team can do. To me, a windows machine is for babies, it always eventually gets deprecated and you must jump ship. Think about it... The Gimp, can open files it created a decade AGO. Windows on the other hand doesn't even have a native photo program. Photoshop doesn't support files from a decade ago. Do what good is it to take a picture or video and use after effects if you can't expect it to open up for your children to see? Linux is not just for desktop use... Not even close. It's for everything else that windows just can't. The raspberry pi has 30 some IO outputs... I've been using it for several years now for my security cameras. They update regularly and the only thing I do is get the video on NFS and clean spider webs on it.
@@aomanchutube raspberry pi is special as all hardware that the rasbian team has to deal with is
linear and mostly the same , and is made to tinker with that's why is has so much io inputs/outputs . A Intel nuc would be so much better depending on what you do . Cad and most 3d software is barely decent now on Linux and most all medical equipment is run by windows os ,and system breaks Linux can randomly have is the downfall for me and driver issues that seem to always arrive even with so called supported hardware on linux, not streamlined for ease of use ,then you get the "just learn command idiots " aparently Linux people like to make thing take long but look cooler if your into command like text . I prefer gui on all apps .
@@aomanchutube great point on Android being a branch of Linux, personally I think both Linux and Windows have their uses and which you use should be based on what you need/use the computer for, as far as Rasberry Pi, I haven't had a chance to try one but they sound fun, and IO(Input Output) outputs? was the extra "output" really necessary?
I personally refused to use the Fusion because if I remember correctly the EULA says that everything made in Fusion basically belongs to Autodesk. The inconsistency in Freecad certainly drives away a lot of potential users.
I'm not saying to choose Fusion, but according to them: "Your content is yours" www.autodesk.com/company/legal-notices-trademarks/terms-of-service-autodesk360-web-services/autodesk-360-terms-of-service
@@Insertnamehere58 The person you are answering to is confusing the student license which makes sense.
They give you Fusion for free for your entire student time. Logical that the stuff you made officially don't belong to you.
@@Insertnamehere58 Whenever you're dealing with these "free for hobbyists/students" kinda programs and don't pay for the license and use it for free, nothing you make using that software belongs to you
@THEGODFATHER It probably wouldn't affect patents since it's still your idea.
Theoretically you can file a patent without using it commercially. Just storing your idea.
But depending on the software, yes, it may well be that every file belongs to them if you have specifically the STUDENT version. at least thats the case with Maya.
@@annekedebruyn7797 There is nothing logical about this. It just sucks.
I was a Sketchup fan and was in early with that program. Like 360 they went to cloud based and that killed it for me. I dont want to have to connect to the cloud to be productive. I work in remote areas where internet is not always available so being at the mercy of both internet connectivity and the whims of a company that has all my work on their servers makes me very uncomfortable.
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm new to all this and really not computer savvy either. What do you mean by cloud? Program cant be used without internet?
@@jvh22a yes. The "non-pirated" "non-cracked version" of software i.e. Illegally acquired & used is the only one that's free & allows to save on computer easily.
The legal version is a trap, you pay annually or monthly & files are saved to fusion360's server, and not locally "just yours" it's in the cloud. It kills the ownership ofthe work you made. Yeah some people will speak up that you have hacks or better say work around to save locally, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you cannot have "absolute" saving of your work offline, in other cloud save software it goes to "their" server.
@@mrvk699 thanks for the detailed response. I'm on a 30 day trial on fusion360. My son like tinkercad(me to! Just easier for my simple mind)
@@jvh22a my advice. Use telegram app download any software you want it's all there inn it. No legal problem with vpn or torrent
The part movement you mentioned at 5:10 can be done in FreeCAD by either double-clicking on the part (if you're in assembly) or primitive, or by right-clicking on the part name in the Label & Attributes list and selecting Transform. It will display 3 arrows and arcs with ball-handles for moving and rotating (respectively) somewhat similar to what you show (but brighter colors and heavier). If it's not a primitive or a part in an assembly, Transform won't be the default for double-clicking, hence the right-click menu option.
Edit: I come from an '80s-'90s CAD background, having used AutoCAD (the original) and Pro/ENGINEER. If you've ever used Pro/E, the Part Design workbench (as opposed to the Part workbench) will be very familiar. You create a body, then within it a sketch (it will automatically take you temporarily into the sketcher) where you can create a complex shape. You then can perform numerous operations with that shape, from the obvious pad or pocket to sweeping cuts to lofting and piping (where it can change cross-section based on additional sketches along the length), etc.
I do some moves like that on my TH-cam channel (in french 'cause i'm french)
Beside that, i started CAD with Solidworks that i more-or-less liked, then i discover FreeCAD in 2011/2012, i reuse it more often since 2019 and now i do some tutorials sometimes... and the subscribtions follow very well 'cause i had only 2 or 3 subscribers in january 2020, now i'm at 157 subscribers (and it seems still growing...)
Yeah, nobody is doing that if they did not do it before or read, or someone tells them. I will like to see the quality of the part.
@@jaimeduncan6167 I'm not sure what you mean. I figured it out simply by double-clicking the part the first time I fired up FreeCAD, no-one told me, I didn't read it, it just seemed like an obvious action to take. Later on, I was poking through the right-click menus on the parts and that's what was highlighted by default.
I've no idea at all what you mean by "the quality of the part". He's demonstrating a cylinder and a cube. What measure of "quality" could there possibly be?
Also, you're replying to a 4 year old comment on what's effectively an ancient version of FreeCAD. 0.20 is far, far better than 0.19 and 0.19 is massively better than 0.18 (what's in the video). 0.21 has pre-release versions out too.
FreeCAD keeps getting better every year. A functional assembly workbench will make a huge difference in FreeCAD. Some things do break, and some things aren't working, but I've been using it for quite a few projects.
Lol, man they have 5 assembly workbenches: one more broken than another
I don't normally use CAD software because I'm a Blender kinda guy, so it's not like I'm comparing it to other, paid software, but even for someone who doesn't need much in the ways of assembly I can say it just does cut it, man
Like, I do all these constraints z they get solved once but I can't interact with the model afterwards, like you can't click on things and see them move. I know Fusion can do this but even Blender can do that, lmao
But I do agree with you: Blender is becoming the industry standard and there's JACK SHIT Autodesk can do about it. Checkmate: they've lost
Open-source is going to win, long term
ALWAYS
Companies just can't employ the amount of pure genius and talent that usually gets gathered around ample open-source projects
Right now, FreeCAD is where Blender 1.75 was
It's got a small development team, bad user interface and only enough functionality to get the job done ... barely ... if you're patient enough
The devs can take their time and eventually when more people start using it and more people become interested in it's development it's soon going to have all the top tier features and then some, and when the functionality reaches this level they'll even overhaul the interface and just you wait as it'll be the most gorgeous and beautiful CAD program ever made: noone can compete with open-source in terms of creativity. But that will be the icing on the cake: Blender users had to wait 20 years before they got a nice interface but now that we have it, it completely eclipses the competition in terms of aesthetic, speed, and functionality
Be patient, my friends
FreeCAD will get there ... One day
... Unless some madlad tries to fix the NURBS modelling in Blender and makes it accesibile through the modifiers, at which point FreeCAD could become obsolete overnight :P
FreeCAD feels like an ancient version of a CAD program. Feels very 2005ish.
Eventually, they are going to overhaul the interface, as it happened with Blender and then they will become a force to be reckoned with.
@@jaimeduncan6167 I worry about the piecemeal approach to modules. GRASS GIS has the same approach, and it's a nightmare hodge-podge of modules all taking different approaches to fixing problems and being incompatible with each other. Right now, I think there's at least three currently maintained assembly workbenches, none of which can work on assemblies made by the others because they take completely different approaches.
i remember when Microshaft announced the end of Win7 support and when Adobe and Co went into full on subscription mode. It was the day i took the jump to linux. no regrets ever since. whenever i went open source, it started to pay off years down the line...
You called it when you said that Autodesk would chagne the license away, guess thats why a lot of us are watching this now.
As an old architect, an amateur historian, and a bit of an archivist, I would like to stay from anything cloud based or subscription based. Stuff happens. Wars, lightning strikes, earthquakes, tsunamis, recessions. Who wants to lose all their hard earned CAD files if something happens to the cloud. What happens if the big corporations want to change the terms of the contract again? Can you afford to pay for a CAD subscription if you are laid off for a year or two? Do you want to risk losing the stuff you have created for decades? Stuff happens. We are still reading clay tablets that are 4 thousand years old. Keep your data secure.
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@Luis-ih2wv Yes, we can save the file we have created in Fusion 360 using Export tool.
As for the movement there is an option to show that handle so you can move the object without typing
Nice, where is that option at?
@@MEME-mp7ek In the "combo view" (left hand side toolbox), right click on the object you want to move, and click transform.
Would love to see a head to head of this, like time a modeling of the same object, compare a simulation with it like FEA and compare the CAM...
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Thank you for sharing your experience by comparing Fusion and FreeCAD. This video saved me a great deal of time and frustration.
as a student i've been using F360 for free but i've been switching to freecad and i have to say if you want to make products, learning freecad is well worth it.
Plus i don't like to rely on Autodesk which litteraly kill his competitors and need you to always be connected
Just remember what happened to the 123D apps..
Autodesk just crippled the personal use version.
That's I'm here, you too?
@@maku575 I got an unlimited student version!
@@iamthetinkerman BRO ACTUALLY HOW TELL ME RIGHT THE F*CK NOW
I wouldn't call FreeCAD super easy to use. I've never used their CAM module either. I build the git source of FreeCAD. Right now I have version FreeCAD 0.18, Libs: 0.18R14713 (Git). It is stable on my system too.
The FreeCAD Path is under heavy development
I know, man I've had to fuck around with it for 4 hours before I could cut a square
The whole set-up process is extremely confusing: you can NOT, NO WAY comprehend how you align your stock by yourself you have to go watch tutorials, unfortunately for me, that's not something I usually do, since with most software it's quicker to just muck about with all the buttons till you figure it out than watch some Indian tell you "press x to delete"
Or Autodesk could say "you've got two weeks to buy some lube..!"
I am Hardcore i use OpenSCAD
I tried it but I am a big dumbass and unable to use it.
There is always the much easier BRL-CAD I suppose.
@@jamegumb7298 or much easier SelfCAD
would you share some models created with it?
OpenSCAD is embedded and accessible from FreeCAD.
5:50 do you still feel this way in 2020?
I don't want my files uploarded to other peoples servers I have no control over.
And as fusion 360 is locking down their hobbyist licenses beginning Oct 1st 2020, this becomes very relevant, thank you.
Yep, the search is back on.
Don't forget some of the smaller CAD company alternatives that still offer perpetual licensing... like Alibre :)
@@guritche no need to search. FreeCAD is the best solution I've seen so far
Hi, I am 73yrs young. Retired Vietnam Veteran and just got into this 3d printer thing for something to keep my mind active and so I have been using fusion 360 and learning it for two months when this has happened. Do you think that Freecad would be good to change to considering my age.
I think FreeCad would be a good option for you Sr.
Cloud system is not a problem for freecad. I use the google drive to have my file where I want
Good review, very objective and precise.
afaik, FreeCAD can use mouse drag to move objects around too. Just not intuitively visible.
Freecad is free as in libre and quite powerful, but it suffers from some annoying usability issues. For example scaling a part should be a simple action right? No, you have to go into draft, select the part, choose coordinate to scale from (no simple choices like from bottom, top, center etc.), scale by a factor (you can't choose a measurement) and if you mess up you have to start all over because you can't edit after the fact. And some of the options don't appear to do anything. And 0.18 has a bug with scaling by fractions that requires a workaround.
I don't mean to get too worked up over something which is free and worked on by volunteers, but usability can make the difference between a crap tool and a good one.
Interested to see this, after ditching Fusion 360 yesterday because of the Cloud issue.
I've used FreeCAD - main problem is the lack on internal consistency highlighted here, which is tricky if it's not your main 3D program - too easy to forget how to use it between projects.
I hear good things about Blender too, but more for organic modelling rather than parametric.
I'm sticking with freecad, it's been there for a long time, looks like it will be around a long time in future. It's hard to use, but once you learn it, it does the job.
I started out using AutoCAD on a student license back in the late '80s so yeah it's been awhile. Later I really got into SketchUp when it was owned by Google and completely free to use. I still have a SketchUp and Layout license on a yearly basis but not for much longer, as that company has basically abandoned development to the add-on makers, yet continues to charge a steep yearly license. Then you have the current issues with Fusion 360 and Autodesk changing the rules of the game and severely limiting who can use it and how on the "free" version. Dealing with all this closed source software and the purely profit-driven companies behind them was one of the main drivers behind my switching to Linux about 10 years ago. I would say all of these are decent programs if you're working in the engineering or architecture industries where their cost is not unreasonable. However I am a artist and hobbyist with wide-ranging interests that I dabble in but on a serious basis. I finally settled on Bender as my main 3D program and it is absolutely astonishing, but admittedly not a solid/cad/cam program. When I first looked at FreeCAD a few years ago I dismissed it but it has come a very long way since then. If I were starting I would definitely consider freecad and just learn its idiosyncrasies because at its rate of development it is looking like the next blender of the cad cam world. And you will never be faced with your designs getting stuck in the cloud and being forced to license software you can't really afford for an app that isn't really being developed anymore because the corporation behind it is just resting on its laurels of market dominance and system lock-in.
I love FreeCad but sometimes it's a nightmare, for example Draft Workbench is very imprecise in Fusion I don't have these problems. But there's no Linux version of Fusion so I have to use VM...nothing it's perfect.
Late to the party but, I really appreciate this video. It gave me every bit of information I wanted.
Brilliant description of the two, very much appreciated
Hallo und danke für die Videorheihe.
Da habe ich doch gleich mal eine Frage... Ich möchte eine ovale Holzscheibe ca 40x20 mm und 2 mm hoch in einen 3D Druck einbetten. Ich muss die Scheibe erst scannen und dann dem Drucker beibringen, das der Raum, der von dem Holz eingenommen wird, nicht mehr gedruckt werden muss... Denkst Du das geht, und wenn ja, hast Du Lust Dir mal darüber gedanken zu machen.
Danke für die Mühe.
You can move objects on freeCad with the mouse along the axes. Not only parametric like showed here in the video.
Just double click the object and you can place it manually.
5:26, la herramienta que hace eso en freecad se llama transformar
I wonder if there is a budget version of SolidWorks electrical? SolidWorks can link the whole machine together; 3D parts, PLC schematics, smart wiring harness. 😎 Thank you.
I like Fusion 360 because of the free freezing up my computer after 20 min of work, it's so awesome, so now gonna try Freecad, thanx for the information....
This aged well seeing as Autodesk DID in fact make Fusion 360 no longer free.
Thanks for the video!
Autodesk wiped out 2 years of my work with no warning and didn't respond to my replies to restore the files. I'm learning blender now, hoping to find a good Fusion360 alternative.
Fast forward to the future....
hi freecad is more comparable with Inventor or SOLIDWORKS there is a lot of addon the version 0.18.1. there are functions that were not present in your video
Thanks for making this video! Very useful info!
Thanks, I'm noob on 3d print world and I was so confused about the software that I should be begin. Your guide is very helpful.
Assume you are aware AutoDesk has changed their licencing model to either "StartUp" which "excludes" specifically in writing hobby business and the only other alternative is a non-commercial version earning less then $1,000 per year (which is contradictory). So while with your summary at this point in time i agree with, to remain "legal" (now), I am seriously looking again at FreeCad...
I spent 2 days learning FreeCAD and when I got to drilling for a caphead screw, it did not work, was buggy and I was not able to create it. I will try Fusion360 now. I am apprehensive though about going with a big company that I am the mercy of.
As a hobbyiste I started with FreeCAD just because it's free. There are bugs and sometimes you spend more time turning around than designing. It's although quite functional. I love the parametric possibilities of FreeCAD. I always include a Spreadsheet in the workbench where I put all the dimensions and then I refence dimensions all around from there. Need another copy twice longer ? Just change the Spreadsheet !
I started using Fusion 360 because the Path workbench of FreeCAD is too limited for my projects. So I export my assembly in STEP format and import it in Fusion just to generate Gcode.
Would love to see an updated version of this video. Would help me know what’s going to happen in 2 years. This guy is a fortune teller.
Hey. What about Blender 2.8 - it has 3D printing toolbox now
Blender is a mesh modeler - it's great for organic models, but useless as a parametric mechanical CAD tool.
Does blender have CNC programming?
@@izvarzone nope
@@kdanagger6894 Blender is more for the artistic side of modeling. If you need precise measurements and constraints it's POSSIBLE in Blender but it's. Major pain in the butt and you have to worry about your model staying manifold and printable etc on top of actually designing your part. It's a very, very different workflow and not suited to cad use.
Completely unable to use f 360 (I have no wifi, only internet on my phone)... so besides freecad, what else are viable options? Definately going to try freecad though.
i swore off autodesk in the 90's.... i still dont regret it..
and from the sounds of things.. im still right
FreeCAD works well for me because I'm somewhat of a beginner, and I don't make too complicated parts. it's a bit glitchy but once you know it, it works pretty well. Also you kinda can move things freely: click on the X, Y or Z coordinate and use the scroll wheel to change it's value. It's not quite as convenient as other paid softwares, but it's litterally a free piece of software, and it's doing pretty well.
Things I don't like in Fusion 360 is that you cannot buy the software outrightly but only subscribe for a period of time and at their mercy.
Secondly, you must only safe your works in the clouds with no option of your local drive for privacy. That's a kind of slavery
Don't rely on Autodesk with Fusion360, they can change their pricing model anytime or cancel the product completely.
Use FreeCAD.
When they cancel, I will switch.
@Datulab Tech What's about now? Do you still use Fusion? Btw. FreeCAD has a new release. Maybe worth to check it out again.
I do, as I'm a student, I basically still get the same thing. But even the new hobby version isn't that bad, most of the limitations are a bit of an inconvenience, but have easy workarounds.
How do you renew a fusion 360 hobby license?
Clayton Morrissey you can’t.
"You Die" - Daddy AutoCad
Im, in sort of same situation and just started evaluating if onshape could be a viable option, runs on linux, cloudbased, could be used for free (if you share what you do). have you had a look at it?
Very informative, thank you for doing this.
I'm not sure this is really a comparison. As far as I can tell only one feature (part movement) was actually compared. There is a lot of mention of aspects but not really any concrete examples or side-by-side use. An actual comparison would be a fairly intense video to make and require excellent knowledge/experience with both software.
I use FreeCAD 0.16 and it crashes less often than Solidworks. Haven't ussed 0.17 much yet.
So do other people agree FreeCad is the best alternative? I had been planning on using fusion 360 but the price is way too much if they are going to eventually take away the free version.
Fusion360 seems esier for you because you learned it before FreeCAD. I know people who learned free software first and for them is the opposite. Moving to private software is a pain.
Very Correct broh!
In a discussion with a design instructor about mouse vs. stylus CAD input devices, he said, "Whatever you were trained on is 'Mother'...". He meant that you become used to and will run back to whatever you first learned and became proficient, and the same is true for software and their user interfaces. As the comments indicated, his preference about how Fusion360 moves parts is only because he wasn't fully aware of the FreeCAD methods to do the same thing.
For me... free and parametric is gold in a CAD program. I started with a lead holder, drawing board, and a T-square before learning Computervision CADDS3, who became CADDS4, 4X, and eventually, Pro/Engineer. That software could be used in multiple industries ( I designed industrial boilers, metal electronic enclosures, solid machined models, and even PCBs, and their production drawings, depending on which sub-package I was using). FreeCAD appears to be similar, with sub-packages such as Arch, BIM, Part, Assembly, Draft, etc....
Two things I got from that instructor that stayed with me my entire career:
About software and input devices: "What you were trained on is 'Mother'...."
About design formulas: "What you use every day, you remember. What you don't use every day, remember where to look it up..."
@3:30 make your own cloud and save the freecad files to it, now you can switch pcs at will and no need for any type of portable hdd
Wonderful video explanation!
The problem I have with Fusion 360 is that it slows down to a crawl a lot
Fusion360 is also computer based. To learn how to save Fusion360 files to your computer, just google: "fusion 360 save files to computer". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
yes, it is possible, you loose quite some features though if you don't use their cloud service
I have given Autodesk thousands of dollars over the last three decades, my software is now obsolete and cannot be installed. The big problem I have with Fusion 360 is the inability to export a DWG or DXF to a laser or waterjet
We should shift to free CAD from autodesk product
You have these "little handles" in FreeCAD too. Just doubleclick on the part in the menu on the left.
Is that Kellogg's Unicorn????? MAN it looks delicious!
I personally like freecad but I'm sure fusion is good too
Great I just started using Freecad but no for CNC yet. I m just trying to understand the workflow as I came from blender, I have tried installing fusion360 but got a connection problem and no one on their forum helped me .
FreeCAD and Blender are very different type of programs for very different purposes.
FreeCAD is a CAD software for construction and simulation of real world objects.
Blender is a 3d modeler software to create illusions and things, that can't be done in the real world.
never go for subscription based
I have no problem understanding that Autodesk want to have paid for their software, but for personal use, after one year free is up, the price is to stiff.495 USD/year.
For personal use I was expecting something like 200 USD/year...
NanoCAD vs Fusion360?
Nice video, I build my own CNC :D
Fusion 360....meh....FreeCAD!!!!! awesome! I'm going to recommend it to all my friends.
FreeCAD looks, feels and works like an early 2000s CAD program. Wish it was better.
This video is kind of out dated. It would nice if you would revisit them both especially 360 0n/in browsers this is Oct 12 2021. Did freeCad grow up?
I have not used freecad since, but last time I checked out fusion in the browser it was still more or less a public beta, not sure if they released any update in recent months though.
And you cant use fusion 360 on older pcs.....not compatible.....freecad is way better since once u have the software you can use it indefinitely....fusion 360 is web based so they control you
FreeCAD for the win!!
thanks that really helped :)
super Video danke ^^ und isch das e M-Budget Uhr im Hintergrund? :D
Ja, das isch in fakt en M-Budget uhr, guetes aug!
sponsored by Kelloggs? :)
good vid, thanks for your advice
Sponsored by Kellogs and Warframe from Digital Extremes.
Have you seen IronCAD? I would be interested in hearing you compare it with Fusion360. As a newbie I found it far, far easier to get to grips with than Fusion360, and its support and training videos score 20 out of 10. Autodesk comes nowhere near. IronCAD actually called me, and produced a customised training video for me to assist me with a specific problem. And if you submit a sketch they will send you a customised video telling you how to produce it in their software. But, sadly, it is not free, except for the first, trial month. :-((
I never used it, and you also experienced one of the advantages of paid software, they can actually employ people to help you. It seems to be more targeted towards businesses though, as they don't even directly list a price, just tell you to request a quote.
Always Remember: *"The Cloud"* is somebody else's computer, they can do whatever they like with your hard work, including pulling the plug or putting your files behind a paywall
Avoid the cloud.
If you only knew how right you were. They are giving "back" STEP but now I have to wonder when they will just decide to do something stupid again.
Yeah after this I don't trust them again. Been using FreeCAD and it's awesome
"if you make less than $100,00 using the software, which probably is most of you" damn bro why you gotta insult me like that
If you're a hobbiest who sells what you make, you are capped off at $1000 in Fusion.
NO MORE $100k!!
Start up license is something else again
The whole "your IP is ours" really doesn't even make me want the look at it
Fusion is the best
Fusion 360 isn't really free.
It is.
@@tmlrobotics5446 Shows up as 60$ when I went to their website. Do you have a link to get to their free hobbist license?
@@KailiHill25 You need to download the trial and then click on your profile within the software to become a hobbyist.
@@tmlrobotics5446 It still subject to license that will last exactly as long as Autodesk feels like it so it can end anytime where as FreeCAD is truly Free in every sense of the word.
I got it free yesterday. Didn't like the Cloud storage, uninstalled it, no money lost.
I'm just looking for an offline tinkercad, tbh
I recently set out to learn SolidWorks... that is until I hit the pay barrier.
yes. The "non-pirated" "non-cracked version" of software i.e. Illegally acquired & used is the only one that's free & allows to save on computer easily.
The legal version is a trap, you pay annually or monthly & files are saved to fusion360's server, and not locally "just yours" it's in the cloud. It kills the ownership ofthe work you made. Yeah some people will speak up that you have hacks or better say work around to save locally, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you cannot have "absolute" saving of your work offline, in other cloud save software it goes to "their" server.
Test DesignSpark. Wonderful software.
DesignSpark can't mirror
@@gjj008 It has a mirror tool in sketch mode. The lack of a true 3D mirror tool is a minor shortcoming compared to everything else it provides. It has the fastest workflow of any CAD system I've ever used (except ANSYS SpaceClaim). The direct modelling engine is superb - better and more intuitive than Fusion 360 or anything else for that matter... DesignSpark is essentially ANSYS SpaceClaim lite for free. Highly under rated and under appreciated.
I'm a SelfCAD user, SelfCAD is very easy to use and it's free
I use Alibre Design... but I am biased :)
FreeCAD is the Best.
vill du zutta sen?
FreeCAD yes!