An Uncomfortable Conversation with Josh Szeps (How To Disagree & Still Be Friends) | Rich Roll

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  • @richroll
    @richroll  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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  • @abhinavdharmani3362
    @abhinavdharmani3362 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This podcast is a gem and the numbers on it exactly show where as a society we are headed

  • @csgarrett1
    @csgarrett1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you !! I know I need to learn how to converse and remain truthful but not getting offensive or defensive . I really hope u
    Younger generations are listening to you and Szep !

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I remember having just 1 phone that hung on the wall in the kitchen…😅

    • @Joseph1NJ
      @Joseph1NJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    • @cynthiaeklund1613
      @cynthiaeklund1613 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And I remember how excited we kids were when, one day, Dad bought a longer “curled” wire so we could stretch that (ear and mouthpiece) handle and sit further from that phone (which was hanging on the wall). We didn’t need to stand while talking anymore! We could reach the nearest chair! Luxury!

  • @orengilad
    @orengilad 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Much respect for Josh about the points raised about most of the topics discussed, but there's a huge blind spot about the whole Gaza issue. You can't be that brave taboo-breaking truth-seeker unless you ask yourself some much needed uncomfortable questions (coming from a middle easterner):
    1. Why, despite all efforts by Israel to achieve peace in the region, did Iranian-backed Hamas have to attack on Oct. 7th, raping women at a music festival and burning babies in their cribs, inside civilian populations?
    2. Why isn't there more pressure by the international community on Hamas to release the Israeli civilian hostages that Hamas has been holding and torturing for over a year now? How could this be normalized?
    3. Why are leftists in the West so keen on defending & supporting a genocidal terrorist organization that goes against everything they believe in (Gay & Women's rights, for example), instead of a democratic country and an ally of the U.S. that's defending itself?
    4. Where's the responsibility of Hamas for the consequences of their actions, as they use schools & mosques to fight from, deliberately, so that they can get these horrific images?
    This selective acknowledgment of facts & events is not only a huge blindspot, but also what's called 'The racism of low expectations' towards the people of Gaza, who are therefore babies that aren't responsible for their heinous crimes against humanity.

  • @shane8067
    @shane8067 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm having a difficult time getting through this episode. Josh and Rich epitomize the we are better and smarter attitude.

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Podcasts, in my opinion, would give politicians a chance to air their point of view, as opposed to the “ debates@ that are #1 very one sided, and #2, only giving the politicians said 1-2 minutes of response.

    • @joe1071
      @joe1071 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If we don’t watch the debates, they will disappear. The power of the people lies in where we put our attention and money. If no one watches debates, the message will be sent and received, and the platform will change.

  • @MelodyProsser
    @MelodyProsser หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One solution to podcasters like Joe Rogan who do not pretend to be investigative journalists is that they be honest about being entertainers. Some podcasters on TH-cam are already required by TH-cam to say their podcasts are simply their opinion and for entertainment purposes only. Enforced consistency would help. Investigative journalists have standards they must adhere to and this can apply to podcasters as well.

    • @EarlyRiser71
      @EarlyRiser71 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joe has said that all the time. The only reason this is an issue in your mind is that you lost the election. Funny how MSNBC is full of lies and deceit, but you never call for them to be required to say they are just for entertainment.

  • @sew1what
    @sew1what หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just started listening... love the intro music!

  • @angienavarro7362
    @angienavarro7362 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know this is going to be great
    Love you ❤Rich

  • @joe1071
    @joe1071 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zero percent chance rich roll chooses Nordic track equipment without their sponsorship lmao

  • @normanralph3730
    @normanralph3730 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode

  • @angienavarro7362
    @angienavarro7362 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes. We are Individuals

  • @csgarrett1
    @csgarrett1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uh oh typo I meant Josh -- thank you for this

  • @deborahhorwitz9452
    @deborahhorwitz9452 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think he has forgotten that melbourne was the most locked down city in the world, his views are completely biased and this was cringe to listen to, i am an avid rich roll listener but this guy is too arrogant and biased to listen to . I have to change over today

    • @bxallstar723
      @bxallstar723 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Saying Australia was free during covid was a wild take.

  • @Lisalisa-vq4nd
    @Lisalisa-vq4nd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    16:40 yeah, like The View.

  • @kejarboe
    @kejarboe 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am all for conversation. It is the missing link. Being able to discuss issues and have compassion for one another is what we're missing here. However, I am hearing some elements of blaming the oppressed in this conversation and that is just perpetuating the problem.

  • @italythroughmyeyes
    @italythroughmyeyes หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lets remember trump only one by 1.4% as the latest numbers show! He saturated his message for 4 years!

    • @EarlyRiser71
      @EarlyRiser71 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1.4% is HUGE!

    • @italythroughmyeyes
      @italythroughmyeyes หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @EarlyRiser71 Not!

    • @EarlyRiser71
      @EarlyRiser71 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @italythroughmyeyes absolutely is. You lefties thought Kamala was going to win all 7 swing states and at no point considered Trump winning the popular vote. He did both. That is the modern version of a landslide!!! We own everything in D.C. It gets no more severe than that.

  • @SaniaPAssaf
    @SaniaPAssaf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is nothing complicated about the truth of decades of Israeli occupation, settler terrorizing, and Zionism.
    As a Palestinian American I have been hyper intentional about what I share on this topic.
    There are plenty of Israeli scholars, journalists, ex IDF soldiers, in addition to plenty of Jewish, American, and Palestinian journalists to learn from.
    The truth is there.

    • @HeronJohnsonVigeant
      @HeronJohnsonVigeant หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

    • @sammakespots9320
      @sammakespots9320 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It drives me nuts when people try and make the case that it’s just too complicated to stop a genocide. Madness

    • @drewa1999
      @drewa1999 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Didn't the Palestinians throw the most recent punch on October 7th 2023 that escalated everything all over again?
      Not that I'm pro Israel or anything I'm just curious...

  • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
    @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The issue with uncritical consumption of podcasts like Joe Rogan’s is the absence of journalistic integrity and accountability, especially when tackling serious subjects like politics. During his interview with Trump, Rogan’s admiration was evident, which is problematic given his audience often treats his words as gospel. This demographic-largely young, uneducated white men-feels abandoned by the system and channels their frustrations into culture wars against minorities, women, and others, as guided by these influencers.
    Podcasts like Rogan’s rarely challenge misinformation or provide nuanced context, instead reinforcing anger and division for self-interest or donor-driven agendas. This is dangerous because it misdirects legitimate grievances into scapegoating, rather than addressing the systemic inequities in the U.S. But what happens when this audience realizes their real struggles stem from class dynamics, not cultural conflicts? If that rage is ever redirected upwards-toward economic structures-it could lead to an unpredictable and volatile reckoning. This is why responsible discourse and journalistic rigor are critical in shaping informed and constructive conversations, rather than fueling confusion and hostility.

    • @sassysandie2865
      @sassysandie2865 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, I don’t see it like that at all. I’m not a young uneducated male and I occasionally listen to Rogan. Culture wars against women and minorities? Hardly.

    • @dotplogger7304
      @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rogan used to be left, but the “ left” left him.

    • @sassysandie2865
      @sassysandie2865 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ he left the left after they got too radical.

    • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
      @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sassysandie2865 The left became too radical’ is a phrase that gets thrown around a lot, but it’s worth asking: What specifically does that mean? Was it policies advocating for universal healthcare? Climate action? Greater social justice? Often, these so-called ‘radical’ ideas are broadly supported when you look at polling data.
      What’s interesting is that Joe Rogan didn’t so much ‘leave the left’ as much as he started catering to a specific audience that thrives on contrarianism. His platform amplifies voices from all over the spectrum, but it frequently leans toward controversial and polarizing figures, which can give the impression of alignment with the right. That said, framing this shift as the left becoming ‘too radical’ oversimplifies the complexity of the issues and ignores the very real challenges and inequalities many of those policies aim to address.
      If we’re going to have this conversation, we need to ground it in specifics rather than slogans. What policies or ideas are being labeled as ‘too radical,’ and how do they compare to the policies on the right? Let’s focus on substance, not buzzwords.

    • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
      @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The left became too radical’ is a phrase that gets thrown around a lot, but it’s worth asking: What specifically does that mean? Was it policies advocating for universal healthcare? Climate action? Greater social justice? Often, these so-called ‘radical’ ideas are broadly supported when you look at polling data.
      What’s interesting is that Joe Rogan didn’t so much ‘leave the left’ as much as he started catering to a specific audience that thrives on contrarianism. His platform amplifies voices from all over the spectrum, but it frequently leans toward controversial and polarizing figures, which can give the impression of alignment with the right. That said, framing this shift as the left becoming ‘too radical’ oversimplifies the complexity of the issues and ignores the very real challenges and inequalities many of those policies aim to address.
      If we’re going to have this conversation, we need to ground it in specifics rather than slogans. What policies or ideas are being labeled as ‘too radical,’ and how do they compare to the policies on the right? Let’s focus on substance, not buzzwords.

  • @pamelashoemaker1614
    @pamelashoemaker1614 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joe Rogan was so right leaning I couldn’t listen to him. He seemed pushy and loud to me.

  • @gin6752
    @gin6752 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you’re talking about woke, I hope you have someone that’s in that category - - like if he said I don’t want to be told about who used to live on this land - - how about having an indigenous person come and discuss life in 2024. These are real people who are part of work

  • @Eliza-k7q3c
    @Eliza-k7q3c 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love this podcast but I'm having a hard time making it through this episode...so much ego and privilege my god. Unless I missed something, I don't think they even touched on the 90 million eligible voters who didn't feel motivated to vote. I cringed when Josh said he doesn't think it's a politician problem, but a citizen talking to citizen problem. From where I sit as a progressive, and the conversations I have with people on both sides of the political spectrum (my family are deep red voters)...we don't feel represented or heard by politicians 90% of the time. Dems thought it was better to move toward trying to win over republican voters who we had no business trying to win over (i.e. using Liz Cheney as a show pony??). I don't think Kamala's issue was sticking to her "base" as a democrat...I think it's the fact that democrats would rather play it safe and try to win over republican voters than push for policies that progressives want for real systemic change in this country. I wish Rich would have pushed back more like he does with other guests.

    • @Callitout-kl1uq
      @Callitout-kl1uq 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m a ‘90s democrat. We have a lot to offer economically to this country and yet we fail to lead with that. Too many niche issues and cultural tests on the left these days. If we lose, we can’t help people so let’s stop being the voice of the smallest percentages and go back to helping all but the rich.

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What would be interesting is Rich Roll having a conversation with Glenn Beck.

  • @drewa1999
    @drewa1999 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Compelling an interesting chat. But come on Josh the reason why there IS an elite class is because there is a poor class, and vice versa.

  • @gin6752
    @gin6752 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please stop referring to the need to integrate people in a multicultural society. We do not want to be integrated into your default society. That is so racist to think that you guys are the integrators of us. Take Mexicans for instance. Most Mexicans are a mixture of Spaniard and indigenous peoples who lived in this land way before the colonist came. So stop talking about integrating into your society. Many of us have been here way before you.

  • @kccolby7562
    @kccolby7562 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting, however fat and age discrimination shaming by the host is alive and kickin “fat and 50 yr old teachers”
    Comparing Australia’s take on Covid vs the US is clearly biased and short sighted.

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes one wonder where Harris got her “ marching orders”

  • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
    @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The worst part of this interview, Szeps discussed the influence of podcasts on the U.S. presidential election and offered an interesting critique of Kamala Harris appearing on Brené Brown’s podcast. He suggested that Harris’s appearance was inconsequential because most of Brown’s audience would likely vote for her anyway.
    Szeps contrasted this with his belief that Joe Rogan’s audience is largely composed of open-minded individuals willing to engage with new ideas and potentially change their views. While this perspective is intriguing, it seems to oversimplify audience dynamics and overlooks key issues. Rogan’s audience, often characterized by a large contingent of disaffected young men, may not be as universally open-minded as Szeps suggests. Research in media psychology indicates that many individuals gravitate toward content that reinforces their existing beliefs-a phenomenon known as confirmation bias.
    Szeps’s assumption about Rogan’s audience appears to miscalculate the broader sociopolitical dynamics at play. Many listeners seek validation for their frustrations, particularly those rooted in cultural or economic grievances, rather than being genuinely open to challenging their views. By presenting Rogan’s audience as a bastion of intellectual flexibility while critiquing Harris’s strategic media choices, Szeps inadvertently perpetuates a narrative that underestimates the impact of audience psychology on political discourse. This perspective deserves a more nuanced critique, one that considers both the diversity of podcast audiences and the broader implications of influential platforms in shaping public opinion.

    • @dotplogger7304
      @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The fact that Harris was “ put in” instead of nominated, is questionable.

    • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
      @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ I understand your concern about Kamala Harris being seen as the “heir apparent” should Biden step aside, but it’s worth looking at this with a bit more nuance. The idea of a vice president stepping into a presidential role isn’t a conspiracy; it’s simply how the system is designed. The vice presidency is traditionally viewed as a proving ground for future leadership-think of past VPs like Lyndon Johnson or George H.W. Bush. That said, the decision to place Harris on the ticket does deserve scrutiny.
      Biden’s choice to run again, knowing the concerns about his age and stamina, may have heightened the perception that Harris was automatically next in line. But this wasn’t some orchestrated conspiracy-if anything, it reflects a lapse in judgment or a failure to anticipate how this perception might play out among voters. A more open primary or convention process could have addressed these concerns and allowed for broader competition within the party.
      Instead of assuming some grand scheme, we might ask: Was the Democratic Party too cautious in its strategy? Did Biden’s advisors misread the electorate’s priorities? These are the critical questions worth exploring. What do you think? Does the issue lie in the process, or in the perception of inevitability that comes with incumbency?

    • @MattAngiono
      @MattAngiono หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Shoulder2Chin people knew Biden was senile long before he stepped down.
      The democrats specifically WAITED until it was too late to have a primary.
      Not to mention they openly stated that they have the right to reject democratically elected candidates from the primaries, much like they orchestrated with Bernie.
      The fact that they ignored everyone who realized kamala was a HORRIBLE candidate and wanted someone else shows who they were really serving.
      Remember that she was the elite choice in 2020 before she utterly got destroyed by Tulsi

    • @quoudten
      @quoudten หลายเดือนก่อน

      chatgpt

    • @Kleptobratstoruleusall
      @Kleptobratstoruleusall หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ It’s interesting that you’d assume my comment was auto-generated rather than engaging with the points I made. Whether it’s AI-assisted or not, what matters is the substance of the discussion. If you feel it lacks analysis, I’d love to hear your take. What specific questions do you think I didn’t address? What is your analysis of the situation? Let’s move past assumptions and focus on the actual topic-constructive debate leads to better understanding for everyone involved.

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does he consider a “ low information “ voter in the Midwest?

    • @joe1071
      @joe1071 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You, obviously

  • @MNSkeetFamily
    @MNSkeetFamily หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just when I thought all of the political BS was over…. I’ll be skipping this episode.

    • @christiedurham5973
      @christiedurham5973 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Rich has treated the 'political conversation' like he has an allergy to it. If he's ready to reveal some of the cards he's held close to his chest I'm here for it! Mindful political conversation is the balm that we all need IMO.

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We are not a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Representative Republic. Other than that, this was a good podcast.

    • @MattAngiono
      @MattAngiono หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not really... we aren't either.
      We are an oligarchy!

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hey!… I’m a MAGA Republican 😅

    • @Joseph1NJ
      @Joseph1NJ หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's your problem.

    • @petergustafson7446
      @petergustafson7446 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ok traitor.

    • @joe1071
      @joe1071 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’ll pray for you

    • @jaylev85
      @jaylev85 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ha. good luck.

    • @Callitout-kl1uq
      @Callitout-kl1uq 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you are here to learn, good. If you are here to troll, then you are just living up to what we all know of maga

  • @1232bluejays
    @1232bluejays หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Darn lucky we got a second trump term

  • @gin6752
    @gin6752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huh?

  • @jollyrogers99999
    @jollyrogers99999 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dem(hoax)racy.....

  • @mapsrcool1
    @mapsrcool1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you want a conversation about the nuances of the American psyche and how Americans vote, it would be good to have that with an American. I'm sure this guy is a nice dude and smart, but he's not an American and while he's allowed to have an opinion and comment on any and all of it, his commentary is de-facto less worthy of highlighting than that of someone who has been born in America and lived the American experience from birth. Yes he might be married to an American and have lived here for a while, but true identity comes from being born and raised in a place.

    • @Callitout-kl1uq
      @Callitout-kl1uq 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How I feel about Elon Musk

  • @bluesky45299
    @bluesky45299 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let me establish the source of “Transcendental apperception”. Quran(only scripture with 100% preservation/accuracy) says:”Allah:there is no deity worthy of worship except he”:The Neccessary life/consciousness,sustainer of life/consciousness.” Wire like neuronal structures that conduct electricity via ions/neurotransmitters in the CNS/PNS possess no attribute of thinking/life and yet that has “randomly” led to life. Consciousness/thinking is an innate idea(“Fitra”)that is distinct from carbon skeleton and yet the materialist scientist believes that chemistry turned into biology(abiogenesis) via “god of randomness”/”Emergent property”/”law of nature”. Limited/Imperfect Consciousness can only stem from Necessary Consciousness (Allah-One/Indivisible/All-Loving/Self-Sufficient Infinite Perfection)….

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be interesting is Rich Roll having a conversation with Glenn Beck.

    • @sibs124
      @sibs124 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why do you keep posting the same message?

    • @Sk-nb3yl
      @Sk-nb3yl หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop spamming