@@DeafGamer-ut8sgI think the rules have generally been, if it’s unevolved you can evolve it, or keep it at its current form (they don’t do that often, but I’ve never seen it happen in reverse)
@@MrDeerbomb he only said huge power (pure power included) and wonder guard are banned, thats how they always do it unless they lift the huge power ban.
I really like the plan of having an eletric terrain based team, and still allowed the thunderus to get something from the ET even though it doesn’t normally
hardon engine's spa boost only works on grounded pokemon so it gets absolutely nothing from e terrain it would've been better on regieleki bcz it's grounded and uses primarily electric type moves
@@thecreationist3216 the special attack boost works wether or not the Pokémon is grounded. I agree that it would have been better on regi so it could get the terrain boost. I checked before I made my original comment specifically so people wouldn’t come and say I was wrong
@@thecreationist3216 as according to Bulbapedia: Hadron Engine also boosts the Pokémon's Special Attack stat by roughly 33% (or more precisely, by a factor of 5461/4096) on Electric Terrain. This boost will occur even if the Pokémon is not grounded.
i kind of want to see you guys do this in reverse. pick the ability first (however you want ie choosing, wheel,dice, etc) and then choose from the random starters who should get it
2:48 Blissey+Imposter is INSANE! Imposter takes rhe stats if the other Pokémon EXCEPT HP! ARGUABLY BLISSEY'S BEST STAT! Imagine a 255 base HP copying a +2 SpA Archauladon? SIGN ME UP
Just something to note, while giving Thundurus Hadron Engines boosts its Special Attack, it doesn't get an extra boost by the Terrain itself because it is a Flying Mon so it doesn't touch the terrain.
I'm 95% sure Hadron Engine's effects don't work on pokemon immune to ground, aka flying types and levitating pokemon, so the thundurus used here didn't get the special attack boost, BUT. It's still part electric so it's electric moves get boosted in terrain regardless.. again I'm not 100% sure if I'm right or not,
Actually, it's the other way around. Hadron engine does boost thundurus special attack even with it not being effected by electric terrain. It does not get a boost to its electric type moves though since it has to be grounded.
@@RadiantAether actually it doesnt get any boost at all to get both boosts you need to be grounded go on showdown and test it on game modes like almost any ability i was using zapdos with hadron engine than i realized he didnt get any boost cuz he is part flying
I'd pick "Well-Baked Body" from Dachsbun's ability. I like the fact that this ability made Dachsbun completely immune to all Fire Type moves! It helped me with one of the Raid battles!
a CONVINCING victory by luke here. vinny was checked ALL the way out for this one. didn't even remotely take the battle seriously. couldn't even be bothered to use a ground terra.
I think a good spin on this is you turn and look at your starters and you list off what ability you'd give to them and your opponent picks your mon without seeing them based on just what ability you'd give them. So you are giving custom abilities but your opponent doesn't know what mons their giving you.
I have a fun idea for a challenge. Could y’all please catch eight Pokemon of your choice that all have random abilities. Both of you also get to pick out the move sets after catching the Pokemon. Once you both acquire teams, read off each of your team members’ Pokedex entries. If the one being read to correctly identifies a Pokemon entry, he gets the option to force a trade without knowing the moveset of the identified Pokemon. The player who gets the identity correct is also able to pick out a custom ability for the traded Pokemon. Sabotaging some of your own team members is legal. Let’s say that the two leftover Pokemon with easy Pokédex entries are physical attackers like Machamp. You can rigg the entire moveset to be special or support moves. The Pokemon can’t be pseudo legends, legends, paradox, ultra beast, mythical or, starters to make it a bit more challenging.
Love when you upload on Sundays! I looked up to people like you and Shady when growing up and happy to see you guys still making DOPE content! Hope you guys keep creating more! 😄
I kinda want the boys to implement a rule where they have to choose their respective "mascot" whenever it shows up. So Luke & Rotom, Shady & Delibird, Vinny & Probopass etc 😅
Vinny forgot the one ability that shuts down electric gym's, lightining rod. it started off just as a redirect. now it's redirect and electric immunity.
One of these days I want to see a choice band slaking with scrappy as the ability, extreme speed as the illegal move, normal as it's tera, and a belly drum baton passed to it. Thing would destroy everything and even a ghost type couldn't stop it
Changes I would have made to Vintendo's team: Scovillain (Contrary), STAB Leaf Storm and Overheat Blissey (Impostor), High HP and steal everything the opp has. Tauros (Gorilla Tactics), Choice Scarf + Gorilla Tactics + STAB Double Edge Walking Wake (Lightningrod), with Tera Water you are only weak to Grass, which you can cover with Scovillain Deoxys Defense (Ice Scales), 3/4 of Luke's team at that point lean Special, so buffing Special Defense makes more sense to me.
Ok so with a randomizer, the team I got with abilities are as follows Infernape- contrary Mightyena- strong jaw Decidueye- flash fire Garchomp- pure power Kyogre- primordial sea Calyrex/ice rider - beast boost
I know Huge Power is banned this video, but I am kind of surprised nobody has ever tried Deoxys Defense with Huge Power to make it an offensive and defensive threat. With Huge Power, it's attack would be between Regular and Attack form, not bad at all.
Water Bubble. Easiest the best ability for a water type pokemon. Doubles the power of water type moves, halves fire attacks (doubles resistance), AND entirely prevents burn? In terms of these kinds of battles, a pokemon with Water Bubble, Mystic Water, Tera Water, and Aqua Jet can sweep teams. Maybe throw in a little Swords Dance action?
actually, that tauros was better off with normalize than adaptability due to one simple reason. adaptability replaces your 1.5x stab with a 2x one, while normalize stacks with stab (1.5x1.5=2.25). the difference is even greater with tera normal Adaptability + tera = 3x Normalize + tera = 3.37x
I would’ve done Magic guard on Archaludon, Life orb stab steel beams with no recoil would be crazy. And necrozma was begging for Psychic surge to counter hadron, and send of powerful psychic moves, in doubles expanding force would be nuts.
Vinny totally missed the opportunity to take an Imposter Blissey. For those who don’t know, transform copies all the stats and stat changes of the opposing Pokemon EXCEPT for HP. This means that whatever Pokemon it transforms into now has a maxed out HP stat due to Blissey’s HP stat being the max it can be. So, if you switch it in on a defensive mon, it becomes pretty much unkillable.
Luke: I'm building an electric team.
Vinny: *refuses to take a ground type mon*
or give one pokemon volt absorb
On top of that, Tera water :3
@@RealCutieMutie ik like not even tera ground felt a bit like one huge throw
Tbh, he didn't get good ground options..
@@christainknight20 Ursaluna was right there!
2:57 I thought he was going to go imposter Blissy. Become the enemy, and keep blissy's HP.
While Eviolite Chansey with Imposter would be better, I'm unsure if they can unevolve pokemon for the battle
@@DeafGamer-ut8sgI think the rules have generally been, if it’s unevolved you can evolve it, or keep it at its current form (they don’t do that often, but I’ve never seen it happen in reverse)
Eviolite doesn’t work like that
@@twisted_riddles3474 Actually Eviolite does increase defense stats for Chansey, even if it is transformed into a fully evolved pokemon
@@DeafGamer-ut8sg imma check it out in smogon
Just throwing it out there, Vinny could have been evil. Imposter Blissey is all I’m saying.
Imposter chansey is better, but imposter blissey is quite strong
Is imposter allowed? A simple ability like motor drive or misty terrain is enough to counter gbl line up
@@ShadowSword88ee How is it better? Eviolite won't work once you transform.
@@MrDeerbomb he only said huge power (pure power included) and wonder guard are banned, thats how they always do it unless they lift the huge power ban.
@@ShadowSword88eeblissey has the same amount of hp right and eviolite doesn’t work with imposter
You guys should be using Earth Eater over Levitate. Its basically water absorb but for ground instead of water.
Thank you! No one ever tamed earth eater, and I was starting to think I was insane or it was a RadRed ability like Feline Prowess.
Tho with levitate you get an immunity to all hazards apart from rocks
hazard immunity
@@megarayquaza2240 But you don't get the electric terrain boost
@@megarayquaza2240Yeah but Earth Eater is still better most of the time, id say
Luke: I'm making an electric team
Vinny: I don't need ground or volt absorb
Should have stacked electric immunity
Giving Levitate to the Regieleki is honestly a nerf in an electric terrain team, as it doesn’t get the terrain boost because it’s in the air
Especially with Earth Eater being an option
That was what I was thinking
@@Rictavio27 wait, what? Do levitating and flying pokemon not get terrain boosts?
@@stevenashley27 they dont get any terrain effects
@@abhinnbaxi6295 So why did he give hadron engine to the electric flying legendary? XD
I died watching him put Hadron engine on a Thundurus, you know, the pokemon that flies?
It beeps the Hardon Engine boost, it just doesn’t get the normal boost to electric moves
Also puts levitate on regileki so it no longer gets its normal transistor boost and can't the boost from the terrain
That electric team went crazy! Looks like y'all had a lot of fun filiming this video too!
I really like the plan of having an eletric terrain based team, and still allowed the thunderus to get something from the ET even though it doesn’t normally
hardon engine's spa boost only works on grounded pokemon so it gets absolutely nothing from e terrain it would've been better on regieleki bcz it's grounded and uses primarily electric type moves
@@thecreationist3216 the special attack boost works wether or not the Pokémon is grounded. I agree that it would have been better on regi so it could get the terrain boost. I checked before I made my original comment specifically so people wouldn’t come and say I was wrong
@@thecreationist3216 as according to Bulbapedia:
Hadron Engine also boosts the Pokémon's Special Attack stat by roughly 33% (or more precisely, by a factor of 5461/4096) on Electric Terrain. This boost will occur even if the Pokémon is not grounded.
i kind of want to see you guys do this in reverse. pick the ability first (however you want ie choosing, wheel,dice, etc) and then choose from the random starters who should get it
Vinny not choosing Volt Absorb on any of his mons was classic
or lighting rod.........
thank you for banning huge power, just more room for creativity
My friend: ok so we re gonna ban huge power, me: choses pure power
they always do that in these kind of videos
Ahh creativity
Pure power
What do you mean? Huge power tera normal stab extreme speed is very creative.
8:56 Luke, that’s a staple remover, not a stapler
1:36 Hadron engine on a mon that floats over the terrain...
Does it not still activate the boost?
@@RandomPerson-mx5ou
I don't think so
Miraidon also floats
@@Nsoul915 According to Bulbapedia, it gets the boost.
sad to see luke not subbed smh 0:11
I can’t believe he’s not subbed to Vinny Tendo 😭
Why would he? Vinny sucks.
The way Vinny’s reflection was looking straight back at him and he still chose Necrozma is crazy
10:08 i'm dead. im gone. im out. absolutely 6 feet under. i was caught off guard so damn much that i nearly fell out my chair!!!!!!
2:48 Blissey+Imposter is INSANE! Imposter takes rhe stats if the other Pokémon EXCEPT HP! ARGUABLY BLISSEY'S BEST STAT! Imagine a 255 base HP copying a +2 SpA Archauladon? SIGN ME UP
6:09 you could fit a whole Vinny in there
Just something to note, while giving Thundurus Hadron Engines boosts its Special Attack, it doesn't get an extra boost by the Terrain itself because it is a Flying Mon so it doesn't touch the terrain.
I'm 95% sure Hadron Engine's effects don't work on pokemon immune to ground, aka flying types and levitating pokemon, so the thundurus used here didn't get the special attack boost, BUT. It's still part electric so it's electric moves get boosted in terrain regardless.. again I'm not 100% sure if I'm right or not,
it should be the other way around
Actually it is 100% that plus the thunderus also didnt get the boost to the electric tipe moves cuz you also need to be grounded to get the boosts
Correct
Actually, it's the other way around. Hadron engine does boost thundurus special attack even with it not being effected by electric terrain. It does not get a boost to its electric type moves though since it has to be grounded.
@@RadiantAether actually it doesnt get any boost at all to get both boosts you need to be grounded go on showdown and test it on game modes like almost any ability i was using zapdos with hadron engine than i realized he didnt get any boost cuz he is part flying
I'd pick "Well-Baked Body" from Dachsbun's ability.
I like the fact that this ability made Dachsbun completely immune to all Fire Type moves! It helped me with one of the Raid battles!
The nod to SoaD at 17:30 deserves a sub all on its own.
8:26 Had no idea defense Deoxy kinda got a dumpy though, no wonder Chenzo nicknamed it thickums
a CONVINCING victory by luke here. vinny was checked ALL the way out for this one. didn't even remotely take the battle seriously. couldn't even be bothered to use a ground terra.
I think a good spin on this is you turn and look at your starters and you list off what ability you'd give to them and your opponent picks your mon without seeing them based on just what ability you'd give them. So you are giving custom abilities but your opponent doesn't know what mons their giving you.
Vinny.. as Luke was building a electric team, lighting rod would be the counter of all counters
I would have given Necrozma speed boost and calm mind with stored power to make a stronger Esparthra
I'd enjoy Wonder Guard shenanigans
Vinny: I'm gonna give it Normalize.
Luke: Are you sure?
Vinny: You're right.
Luke: *immediately gets a ghost type on his screen*
Love the concept behind Luke’s team. Felt genuinely creative
Love how you guys helped each other with the abilities. Good sports proper gentlemen. Love the content.
I randomly came across your videos and have been binging them for 2 days now these are fantastic!
I have a fun idea for a challenge. Could y’all please catch eight Pokemon of your choice that all have random abilities. Both of you also get to pick out the move sets after catching the Pokemon. Once you both acquire teams, read off each of your team members’ Pokedex entries. If the one being read to correctly identifies a Pokemon entry, he gets the option to force a trade without knowing the moveset of the identified Pokemon. The player who gets the identity correct is also able to pick out a custom ability for the traded Pokemon. Sabotaging some of your own team members is legal. Let’s say that the two leftover Pokemon with easy Pokédex entries are physical attackers like Machamp. You can rigg the entire moveset to be special or support moves. The Pokemon can’t be pseudo legends, legends, paradox, ultra beast, mythical or, starters to make it a bit more challenging.
Nah
I love the "then we battle" videos!
I really loved this one. You guys had a lot of fun with this
The edits on this video were superb. Fantastic job!🤠
I honestly thought that you were gonna take the Blizzey and give it Ditto’s ability. That would have been incredible
I like the immunity abilities like sap sipper, storm drain, etc
Love when you upload on Sundays! I looked up to people like you and Shady when growing up and happy to see you guys still making DOPE content! Hope you guys keep creating more! 😄
The Hadron Engine based team strat is insane. You get so much more team diversity here then how it would normally so it gets much more crazy.
I kinda want the boys to implement a rule where they have to choose their respective "mascot" whenever it shows up.
So Luke & Rotom, Shady & Delibird, Vinny & Probopass etc 😅
Honestly one of the best then we fights ive seen because of the rain/electric team. I love seeing creative teams
Vinny forgot the one ability that shuts down electric gym's, lightining rod. it started off just as a redirect. now it's redirect and electric immunity.
Vintendo could have had Imposter Blessy which is broken.
4:26 that’s actually a neat idea for a then we fight video, build a team without evolving your starters (if you pick one that can evolve)
I love the little outro
One of these days I want to see a choice band slaking with scrappy as the ability, extreme speed as the illegal move, normal as it's tera, and a belly drum baton passed to it. Thing would destroy everything and even a ghost type couldn't stop it
The editing is too elite 😂
"Oh my god I would put my body in that victorybel" another word of the video from Vinny 😂😂
Man! That electric team was nuts! It was definitely a good thing that Huge Power was banned so creativity could flourish :3
Luke's team genuinely reminded me of the secret/advanced trainer battles throughout the series
Drafting the abilities with a points system next time would be fire. More uncommon or niche abilities get taken.
my brother in Christ, whoever edited this needs a raise for having me about to die of laughter at 10:05
Luke built an electric team and Volt Absorb was RIGHT THERE for Vinny to ruin him with
Bro the editing on this was amazing! 😂
My friend: ok so we re gonna ban huge power, me: choses pure power
I read that the difference between them is that one keeps its boost when ability copied and the other gets reduced, that true?
@@T-ZillaSaur when huge power gets copied with an ability or a move it gives only 1,5 times attack while pure power gives 2x attack
@@jlabouchlik-glichlabouk Ah
@@T-ZillaSaur hope now u understand
I gotta say Luke, the editing for this video was top notch. You'll hit 500k in no time!
6:59 Luke I’m disappointed in you
Changes I would have made to Vintendo's team:
Scovillain (Contrary), STAB Leaf Storm and Overheat
Blissey (Impostor), High HP and steal everything the opp has.
Tauros (Gorilla Tactics), Choice Scarf + Gorilla Tactics + STAB Double Edge
Walking Wake (Lightningrod), with Tera Water you are only weak to Grass, which you can cover with Scovillain
Deoxys Defense (Ice Scales), 3/4 of Luke's team at that point lean Special, so buffing Special Defense makes more sense to me.
3:06 No Guard Horn Drill Choice Scarf Dudunsparce
You monster
The fact Vinny didn’t think of Lightning Rod or Motor Drive is criminal
Thundurus Therian is 10 points slower than his incarnate form, and if you aren't out speeding Garchomp in Gen 9 then you're too slow.
Absolute Cinema editing.
Regieleki with Refridgerate.
Necrozma with Unaware.
Walking Wake with No Guard.
You guys should do a Choose Your Ability, where you randomize three abilities and choose one.
Ok so with a randomizer, the team I got with abilities are as follows
Infernape- contrary
Mightyena- strong jaw
Decidueye- flash fire
Garchomp- pure power
Kyogre- primordial sea
Calyrex/ice rider - beast boost
Really hoped Vinny would realise how good psychic terrain would have been on necrosma
Missed opportunity for Fluffy Milotic, that thing would’ve lived forever
Whoever edited this missed the perfect opportunity to put the scene in from X-Men first class where Shaw kills Darwin and says “adapt to this”
Giving Hadron Engine to a Flying type and Regieleki Levitate when Flying types and Levitaters don't get buffed by terrain
Be interesting to see some rarer abilities. Glancing through some, Poison Puppeteer could be interesting to use. Or Mind's Eye
I know Huge Power is banned this video, but I am kind of surprised nobody has ever tried Deoxys Defense with Huge Power to make it an offensive and defensive threat. With Huge Power, it's attack would be between Regular and Attack form, not bad at all.
Luke: *Builds and electric team*
Vinny: *doesn't get any ground type pokemon* *doesn't take volt absorb*
Buddy
Imposter Blissey would have been crazy though
Water Bubble. Easiest the best ability for a water type pokemon. Doubles the power of water type moves, halves fire attacks (doubles resistance), AND entirely prevents burn? In terms of these kinds of battles, a pokemon with Water Bubble, Mystic Water, Tera Water, and Aqua Jet can sweep teams. Maybe throw in a little Swords Dance action?
Vinny not picking volt absorb as Luke crafts his team is wild
actually, that tauros was better off with normalize than adaptability due to one simple reason. adaptability replaces your 1.5x stab with a 2x one, while normalize stacks with stab (1.5x1.5=2.25). the difference is even greater with tera normal
Adaptability + tera = 3x
Normalize + tera = 3.37x
Banning boring abilities just to do normal tera e-speed for the 80th time is WILD
I would’ve done Magic guard on Archaludon, Life orb stab steel beams with no recoil would be crazy. And necrozma was begging for Psychic surge to counter hadron, and send of powerful psychic moves, in doubles expanding force would be nuts.
I can't believe we got robbed of Multiscale Luvdisc
Vinny totally missed the opportunity to take an Imposter Blissey.
For those who don’t know, transform copies all the stats and stat changes of the opposing Pokemon EXCEPT for HP. This means that whatever Pokemon it transforms into now has a maxed out HP stat due to Blissey’s HP stat being the max it can be. So, if you switch it in on a defensive mon, it becomes pretty much unkillable.
The amount of times he let that specter live in the double battle is crazy
10:03 edit got me good lol
luke is such a genius for this video nobody doing it like him 👑🙌🏼
Like the theme, but a good spin on this video would be opponent chooses your team, you pick the abilities. Would likely be a welcome challenge.
Deoxys def with moody could've been spooky. Also dusclops with prankster.
Idea: You choose your opponent's starter randomly but they get to choose the ability.
I'm a simple man. I see a Luke and Vinny collab and I click
Doesn't levitate also neglect ET which he gave to regieleki?
Prointian
Damn. RNG hated Vinny today XD Killed what little hope he had XD
Luke not picking Rotom and Vinny not picking Probopass is both funny and sad.
Yoooooow it's the Flanders twins!
Bans Wonder Guard and Huge Power
AYY LOOKIE PURE POWER IS STILL ON THE TABLE!
Vinny taking a simple iron boulder is cool, but I’d have kept his normal Ability… use Luke’s Terrain against him…
Oh here's a fun idea, your OPONENT chooses your starter, but then you can give it any ability and an illegal move. 🤔
Vinny not understanding abilities is a 7 year struggle at least
Doesn't giving thunderus hadron engine not work cause it's flying type and can't be affected by terrain?
Yes, must be on the ground to feel the effect, no one seems to remember that
It will not affected by terrain but the ability still boost its stat, I think?
@@MultiPoken I think it has to be in the terrain to get the boost, so I would guess not personally
@earthbloodelf5289 I think Hadron Engine's stat boost works like Quark Drive.
Guys remember, give mono eletric types orthworm ability, earth eater makes you immune to ground move and whenever u are hit by one you gain hp