This is a great example of how crew resource management extends beyond the cockpit. The other pilot on the radio recognized that the workload for the light sport pilot was high and asking if he needed any help and then even telling all aircraft to remain clear of the airport was an exemplary demonstration of professional piloting and professionalism. Great job by all here!
I cought that to Nate. It was great how the other pilot took charge of the airport traffic area and made an all call informing any aproaching traffic of the situation while giving Mark the runway. ATC would be proud of him.
3:37 "It's going to look dramatic, but it's not." The pilot gave a perfect reassurance with this statement. He had excess altitude, pulled extra flaps to dump airspeed as he descended, but this maneuver might have been especially frightening to the passenger if they don't understand how an airplane flies. I just love the efficiency of this statement, well done.
Partial engine problems are more dangerous than losing it completely imo. It gives you false hope and makes decision making more difficult. This guy did an awesome job!
You could see he was treating the situation as if the engine could fail entirely any any moment. He stayed close to the airport, he came in hot and high - even if the engine failed entirely, he could have reached the airport as his forced landing field. You could see he was considering landing straight ahead instead of trying the "impossible turn" until the engine came back and allowed him to fly a normal pattern.
@@realulli it was kinda sketchy though because at one point he was pointing towards a populated area in the turn and if the engine failed, would've been potentially dangerous, but they're lucky that there's a lot of empty fields in the area to land
I like the calmness of the pilot and his words during the emergancy situation. So professional and no panic. So peaseful to hear you laughing as soon you touched ground 😊 ❤. The passenger kept silent and calm during landing maneuver despite the stress, great cooperation.
That was a fine example of airmanship right there. I laughed along with you guys once you were back on the ground, it's funny how it's contagious once it's over.
That was impressive. Not only did the pilot keep calm throughout, maintaining altitude in an unhurried, shallow turn(s) back to Nut Tree, but also kept the passenger calm by verbalizing everything happening and everything he was doing, like saying, "It's going to look dramatic but it's not" in regard to the steep descent upon landing.
This gave me chills. What an amazing human in that pilot. You're a man I would fly with any day. Awesome job handling that level of stress and landing that thing.
For the curious, Nut Tree is in Vacaville, CA off of I-80. The Nut Tree was a huge restaurant/shop until it was demolished and turned into a strip mall. Great memories going there. Nice job pilot.
My dad flew us into the Nut Tree several times in the late 50’s. It was a grass field and a little train that would take you from the field to the restaurant and store and then would return you to the field. Such great memories.
Wow I’m bummed just learning of the restaurant and store no longer exist. I frequented the place many times while stationed at Travis AFB in the early 80’s. The restaurant put out good food and had a great all you can eat fish fry on Fridays.
Among many ‘aircraft drivers’ around, this is a real ‘pilot’ and did an amazing job in every manner. Greetings and respect from a jumbo captain 👌🏼👏👏👏👏👏👏
Very well handled and kept a cool mindset. Realised he still had some power, but not reliably so. Did a full pattern, but maintained altitude, as power could be completely lost at any point. Excellent
Thanks for posting. Beautifully handled, including keeping the passenger calm. The other pilot's support was also great. Thanks also for your replies to comments below regarding the cause.
Not familiar with the a/c but after he became airborne a red light on the right side of the panel started flashing. Was that the fuel pressure light?? Was not on during runup only with attitude change.
Even though still had sporadic power at least he was focused on flying the plane first before trying to communicate! He also was very cognizant of maintaining a shallow turn back to the airport ensuring he maintained altitude before it was time to dump it off! Great job!!!
I fly the same type of aircraft, CT, even camera is located on the same place :) You could have aboryed if spotted the flashing red light just afger lift off, but I never understood, why these signal lights are on the right side - you never look there during take off roll. We had a similar case couple of years ago - the friend of mine experienced drop of fuel pressure after take off in ~1000 ft. AGL, reduced power and pressure came back. He flew a pattern and landed safely like you did. Reason: faulty mechanical pump did not deliver pressure above 4500 RPM. Thanks for the video, good airmanship! Fly safe!
Had you not exibited exceptional pilot skills and sound judgement that aircraft may have been returned to the airport on a flatbed or in a wooden crate. Great job keeping the dirty side down and the passenger entertained all the way around the pattern Mark.
Todd I 100% agree with your statement. Given the choice of rolling the dice with another pilot or going with one who has demonstrated grace under pressure I would go with Mark the proven pilot.
@@markjohnson9157 I hope you don't either but after that one I may start wearing one while flying again... Respect for the fast thinking in that situation
Your throttle control in this situation was simply amazing. Power off then back on, numerous times, may have cleared a fuel blockage . What ended up being the issue in this case?
Good outcome!! What did the mechanic find out? Maybe the fuel valve was only half opened? Regards from a CT Pilot who had this problem once before😉 Stephanus
Good job. I had a very similar experience, except I had just crossed the numbers on a down wind departure. I know it’s a judgment call but once you’re stabilized on final and are super high you can always slip it to get rid of that extra altitude.
i had 4 different LOTOT/partial power engine fails on take off as a Bush Pilot in South America. If the engine is only vibrating while lost some power but NOT SURGING OFF AND ON, and keeps altitude at least, it is good to try to turnback to closest runway at airport from 400 agl or higher (i did that 2 times, one from 300 agl only) instead of throwing the towel and crash in front without a fight(Besides in front there were houses and or ocean). But if heavy surging, prep to land, little turns only. No turnback unless much higher than 400 agl. Due it can quit dead next surge. Those difficult to judge LOTOT killed the great MacSpadden. He was killed on a “Surging LOTOT” and they did turnback but lost engine after it, NOT REACHING THE RUNWAY after the airplane owner pop the draggy gear out. Practice LOTOT.. FOR EXAMPLE; climb to 400 agl, Engine power to 50%.. level at 400 agl. Troubleshoot with SOME carb heat and some leaning too. And decide if Turnback, Turnaround the airport OR CRASH I FRONT. 3 OPTIONS ON LOTOT. IT S SURGING LOTOT, TREAT A SURGING LOTOT as an engine dying in next few seconds. Be ready to lower nose and land.
I think it’s a good engine but the fuel is the weak link. You have to get the fuel from a regular gas station that doesn’t have the standards or regulatory requirements of an FBO. If a tanker truck accidentally puts 87 octane in the 91 octane tank they just leave it because the worst that will happen is a couple of cars may make knocking noises for a day or two, but an airplane may have issues on takeoff. If an FBO made the same mistake there would be hell to pay. Now I either blend or use decalin with 100LL and I do more frequent oil and spark plug changes.
Rotax dominates the market for light sport. You see a lot of videos because there are a lot of engines. And many of them are in experimental homebuilt aircraft (not this one).
"If it's running let it run" can get you in trouble if you pass up a landing option to attempt to get back along a path with few options if it completely fails on you.
@@markjohnson9157 I'll view that - thanks. I wasn't being critical... there's certainly a lot of factors to consider an little time to do it - and I wasn't there. But I can see that trying to get back to the airport to avoid the embarrassment or costs associated with an off site emergency landing in some cases could be a form of "getthereitis" leading to disaster if a pilot isn't careful. Glad you made the right calls and were OK.
@markjohnson9157 8 figured it was a device to help radar track the plans lication, but the ones i have seen are all 12 volt, but I dont see what powers that unit, is it solar ?
It’s battery powered. You’re correct but it’s not a standard radar. It gets radar type information from ground antennas and feeds it to my iPad that loads the information on a moving map. It also gets weather information as well as other critical information that pilots need to know in close to real time. The network is nationwide with some parts of the country having better coverage than others. Your tax dollars at work.
Nicely done. I’ve lost RPM on climbouts, and it’s a miserable feeling. Wakes you up fast. This acted like air bubbles in the line or a possible mag issue. Maybe even bad fuel or a bad fuel pump.
Great execution of the emergency, congratulations. What support/adapter do you use to place your ipad in that place. I own a CTLS and been looking for that kind of adapter for my Ipad. Thanks!
@@wisewayss I was able to find your channel. I think you have good content but I don’t want my video in an episode. I don’t believe it would e appropriate.
Treat an engine surge as a big fuel problem. I know Turnbacks from 700 agl. i WONT go to the downwind leg with a failing engine. Turnback and land now, not later on.
starting with min. 1:12 ... Simultaneously with the departure of the plane from the runway and until the round of the runway (min. 3:01), the pilot had an alarm signal for the engine (flashing red lamp - right front panel). Interesting.
CTsw? Did the fuel pressure rapidly drop (indicated on the Dynan in red?) I have experienced similar problems in this type. I found it was always in hot ambient conditions once the engine was warm. I wonder if vapor lock was the issue... did you ever find out what happened? Nothing from the manufacturer or Rotax as far as I know. Anyways, very well handled! Great flying and task management, especially with a passenger obstacle. Cheers
Yes it’s a CTSW and you’re exactly right. I was using auto gas at the time. I switched to avgas and decaline now. I change my oil every 25 hours and the spark plugs every 50 hours and never had the problem again. It’s a great airplane. I’m very happy with it.
@@markjohnson9157 unfortunately a common problem with the rotax series is Vapor lock when its hot outside and when you're using auto gas. but sounds like youve already fixed the issue by switching to 100LL! Safe flying!
Sounds like a fuel filter….Great job flying the airplane. Flying behind a screaming snowmobile engine at 5000 rpm would in itself make me uncomfortable, and I couldn’t stand the noise. High piston speeds make for unreliability. I feel sorry for CFI’s who have to make a living flying that stuff.
This is a great example of how crew resource management extends beyond the cockpit. The other pilot on the radio recognized that the workload for the light sport pilot was high and asking if he needed any help and then even telling all aircraft to remain clear of the airport was an exemplary demonstration of professional piloting and professionalism. Great job by all here!
You make a very good point. It was comforting to hear him, it relieved some of the pressure.
well done
Totally agree. CRM was awesome.
I cought that to Nate. It was great how the other pilot took charge of the airport traffic area and made an all call informing any aproaching traffic of the situation while giving Mark the runway. ATC would be proud of him.
Airmanship. A precious gem, hidden nowadays.
3:37 "It's going to look dramatic, but it's not." The pilot gave a perfect reassurance with this statement. He had excess altitude, pulled extra flaps to dump airspeed as he descended, but this maneuver might have been especially frightening to the passenger if they don't understand how an airplane flies. I just love the efficiency of this statement, well done.
That line was my favourite part of the video. It looked like they were dumping straight into the ground.
Partial engine problems are more dangerous than losing it completely imo. It gives you false hope and makes decision making more difficult. This guy did an awesome job!
You could see he was treating the situation as if the engine could fail entirely any any moment. He stayed close to the airport, he came in hot and high - even if the engine failed entirely, he could have reached the airport as his forced landing field.
You could see he was considering landing straight ahead instead of trying the "impossible turn" until the engine came back and allowed him to fly a normal pattern.
@@realulli it was kinda sketchy though because at one point he was pointing towards a populated area in the turn and if the engine failed, would've been potentially dangerous, but they're lucky that there's a lot of empty fields in the area to land
I like the calmness of the pilot and his words during the emergancy situation. So professional and no panic. So peaseful to hear you laughing as soon you touched ground 😊 ❤. The passenger kept silent and calm during landing maneuver despite the stress, great cooperation.
That was a fine example of airmanship right there. I laughed along with you guys once you were back on the ground, it's funny how it's contagious once it's over.
That was impressive. Not only did the pilot keep calm throughout, maintaining altitude in an unhurried, shallow turn(s) back to Nut Tree, but also kept the passenger calm by verbalizing everything happening and everything he was doing, like saying, "It's going to look dramatic but it's not" in regard to the steep descent upon landing.
This gave me chills. What an amazing human in that pilot. You're a man I would fly with any day. Awesome job handling that level of stress and landing that thing.
For the curious, Nut Tree is in Vacaville, CA off of I-80. The Nut Tree was a huge restaurant/shop until it was demolished and turned into a strip mall. Great memories going there. Nice job pilot.
I was never based there but often flew in for touch and goes a couple of decades ago.
My dad flew us into the Nut Tree several times in the late 50’s. It was a grass field and a little train that would take you from the field to the restaurant and store and then would return you to the field. Such great memories.
My best friend was a dishwasher there. Ate there a few times. They sold model airplanes and stuff in the front.
Wow I’m bummed just learning of the restaurant and store no longer exist. I frequented the place many times while stationed at Travis AFB in the early 80’s. The restaurant put out good food and had a great all you can eat fish fry on Fridays.
If it got real bad, at least 80 is right there!
Great job. I remember the Nut Tree Airport back when the Nut Tree was still a retail store.
Among many ‘aircraft drivers’ around, this is a real ‘pilot’ and did an amazing job in every manner. Greetings and respect from a jumbo captain 👌🏼👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks. I appreciate that.
Very well handled and kept a cool mindset. Realised he still had some power, but not reliably so. Did a full pattern, but maintained altitude, as power could be completely lost at any point. Excellent
Aviate, navigate, communicate. Great example of flying the plane first, then getting on the radio to let everyone know what your plan was.
Thanks for posting. Beautifully handled, including keeping the passenger calm. The other pilot's support was also great. Thanks also for your replies to comments below regarding the cause.
Great job guys! So glad ya'll made it back safe. Lots of learning done in that 6 minutes.
Fantastic. Great work! So glad you and your co-pilot are down safety. So many great lessons in a short video.
For a split second you were definitely thinking about that open field straight ahead of you huh..?
You nailed it. As a person who felt that kind of sh*t flavour in my mouth, I just have to say: You are the man!
Man it's hard not to pull that stick back... it must be connected to that pucker factor thing... Great job! So thankful!! ❤
Well done Sir!! Calm, collect and let the training kick in!! Glad you got back safely!! Outstanding!!
Grace under pressure, thank you God for a safe outcome for you gentlemen. Well done sir
Dude was just chill like another day in the air 😂.
What makes this even cooler is the cameras frame rate is not fast enough and you can see the engine RPS drooping and returning! Great video!
You've gotta love the aviation community. We are all one.
Not familiar with the a/c but after he became airborne a red light on the right side of the panel started flashing. Was that the fuel pressure light?? Was not on during runup only with attitude change.
Thrilling to watch oh my god.Pilot was calm and cool on this situation.
What was the cause? Noticed a red light flashing after rotation and am wondering if it could have been related to fuel pressure or oil. Great job!
Even though still had sporadic power at least he was focused on flying the plane first before trying to communicate! He also was very cognizant of maintaining a shallow turn back to the airport ensuring he maintained altitude before it was time to dump it off! Great job!!!
“That was horrifying” 🤣
I fly the same type of aircraft, CT, even camera is located on the same place :)
You could have aboryed if spotted the flashing red light just afger lift off, but I never understood, why these signal lights are on the right side - you never look there during take off roll.
We had a similar case couple of years ago - the friend of mine experienced drop of fuel pressure after take off in ~1000 ft. AGL, reduced power and pressure came back. He flew a pattern and landed safely like you did. Reason: faulty mechanical pump did not deliver pressure above 4500 RPM.
Thanks for the video, good airmanship!
Fly safe!
Very nice job. Way to keep calm and Aviate, Navigate and THEN Comunicate.
Handled it like a beast! Great job, Sir.
Had you not exibited exceptional pilot skills and sound judgement that aircraft may have been returned to the airport on a flatbed or in a wooden crate. Great job keeping the dirty side down and the passenger entertained all the way around the pattern Mark.
Good Job Captain!
Great job in handling the situation. Fuel delivery problem?
Amazing job. I know your passenger will completely trust you to take him up anytime after that experience.
We flew together last week. Lol
Todd I 100% agree with your statement. Given the choice of rolling the dice with another pilot or going with one who has demonstrated grace under pressure I would go with Mark the proven pilot.
Well done!! Curious what went worng? why the red light blinking on the right side of the panel?
It was a low fuel pressure warning light
He flew the plane, pure and simple!
Good job getting back on the ground! Solid airmanship right there.
Next time a parachute will be on the wardrobe list...Great handling of that situation
Actually the airplane has one. Hopefully I never have to pull it. 😊
@@markjohnson9157 I hope you don't either but after that one I may start wearing one while flying again... Respect for the fast thinking in that situation
Your throttle control in this situation was simply amazing. Power off then back on, numerous times, may have cleared a fuel blockage . What ended up being the issue in this case?
It was bad fuel. I was using mogas at the time. Since then I use only avgas and do more frequent oil and spark plug changes
Wow, great job!! Calm, cool, and collected...
That’s the best way to relieve a case of constipation
Good outcome!!
What did the mechanic find out? Maybe the fuel valve was only half opened?
Regards from a CT Pilot who had this problem once before😉
Stephanus
It was the mogas. Adding avgas cleared the problem. What caused your engine problem?
P.S. The CT is a great airplane. I love it!
Now that’s a competent pilot
Good job. I had a very similar experience, except I had just crossed the numbers on a down wind departure. I know it’s a judgment call but once you’re stabilized on final and are super high you can always slip it to get rid of that extra altitude.
Oh man, that made be sweat just watching. Nice job!
i had 4 different LOTOT/partial power engine fails on take off as a Bush Pilot in South America. If the engine is only vibrating while lost some power but NOT SURGING OFF AND ON, and keeps altitude at least, it is good to try to turnback to closest runway at airport from 400 agl or higher (i did that 2 times, one from 300 agl only) instead of throwing the towel and crash in front without a fight(Besides in front there were houses and or ocean).
But if heavy surging, prep to land, little turns only. No turnback unless much higher than 400 agl. Due it can quit dead next surge. Those difficult to judge LOTOT killed the great MacSpadden. He was killed on a “Surging LOTOT” and they did turnback but lost engine after it, NOT REACHING THE RUNWAY after the airplane owner pop the draggy gear out.
Practice LOTOT.. FOR EXAMPLE; climb to 400 agl, Engine power to 50%.. level at 400 agl. Troubleshoot with SOME carb heat and some leaning too. And decide if Turnback, Turnaround the airport OR CRASH I FRONT. 3 OPTIONS ON LOTOT. IT S SURGING LOTOT, TREAT A SURGING LOTOT as an engine dying in next few seconds. Be ready to lower nose and land.
Great job. Smithing similar happened to one time.
Nice job! What is the red light on the panel that started flashing at rotation?
Nice level headed flying sir.
What was the cause determined to be?
Wonder what that flashing red light on the instrument panel was??
Was the problem related to the red flashing light on rotation?
Yes the light was for low fuel pressure. The problem was bad fuel.
Good job! Was the red light warning for fuel pressure?
Yes it was
I reside in the Nut Tree west approach path.
I feel like there's a ton of rotax failue videos on TH-cam. Not sure if that's a coincidence or if they're just not reliable.
I think it’s a good engine but the fuel is the weak link. You have to get the fuel from a regular gas station that doesn’t have the standards or regulatory requirements of an FBO. If a tanker truck accidentally puts 87 octane in the 91 octane tank they just leave it because the worst that will happen is a couple of cars may make knocking noises for a day or two, but an airplane may have issues on takeoff. If an FBO made the same mistake there would be hell to pay. Now I either blend or use decalin with 100LL and I do more frequent oil and spark plug changes.
Rotax dominates the market for light sport. You see a lot of videos because there are a lot of engines. And many of them are in experimental homebuilt aircraft (not this one).
Beautiful, awesome job!
That is why I prefer planes to helicopters
There was no attempt in identfying the problem . Where did they train?
"If it's running let it run" can get you in trouble if you pass up a landing option to attempt to get back along a path with few options if it completely fails on you.
I understand what you are saying. I explained my thought process on a separate video. You can see it here th-cam.com/video/SiBQtkJgK88/w-d-xo.html
@@markjohnson9157 I'll view that - thanks. I wasn't being critical... there's certainly a lot of factors to consider an little time to do it - and I wasn't there. But I can see that trying to get back to the airport to avoid the embarrassment or costs associated with an off site emergency landing in some cases could be a form of "getthereitis" leading to disaster if a pilot isn't careful. Glad you made the right calls and were OK.
What is the white box with led meters, on the suction cup mount passenger window
It’s a Sentry ADS-B receiver. Since then I upgrade my avionics and I only use this receiver as a backup
@markjohnson9157 8 figured it was a device to help radar track the plans lication, but the ones i have seen are all 12 volt, but I dont see what powers that unit, is it solar ?
It’s battery powered. You’re correct but it’s not a standard radar. It gets radar type information from ground antennas and feeds it to my iPad that loads the information on a moving map. It also gets weather information as well as other critical information that pilots need to know in close to real time. The network is nationwide with some parts of the country having better coverage than others. Your tax dollars at work.
What was the issue?????
I’ll keep it short… Great job 😉💯👍👍
Nicely done. I’ve lost RPM on climbouts, and it’s a miserable feeling. Wakes you up fast. This acted like air bubbles in the line or a possible mag issue. Maybe even bad fuel or a bad fuel pump.
I seen the red light come on at take off. Wass that something?
Good stuff! Good pilot!
amazing work!
Awesome job guys 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Not sure if its been asked yet, Was that a Vapor Lock ?
Great execution of the emergency, congratulations. What support/adapter do you use to place your ipad in that place. I own a CTLS and been looking for that kind of adapter for my Ipad. Thanks!
It is a iBOLT TabDock I bought on Amazon. iBOLT TabDock Bizmount AMPs -... www.amazon.com/dp/B07BKPC4K8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@markjohnson9157 Thanks for the info Mark and have always blue skies and tailwinds.
great pilot right there
That flight stick looks like the handbrake from a 1980s ford transit
The nutshell landed in the nut tree.
Hello there, is it okay to feature this video in our new Episode ? it will be credited ofcourse :)
@@markjohnson9157 Thanks a lot, will do :)
@@wisewayss I was able to find your channel. I think you have good content but I don’t want my video in an episode. I don’t believe it would e appropriate.
@@markjohnson9157 No problems, thank you for responding
Did y'all have power for the taxi back?
Yes the engine ran fine at idle. The issue was bad mogas.
good work brother!!
Cool calm and collective
Treat an engine surge as a big fuel problem. I know Turnbacks from 700 agl. i WONT go to the downwind leg with a failing engine. Turnback and land now, not later on.
So, what was the engine problem?
starting with min. 1:12 ... Simultaneously with the departure of the plane from the runway and until the round of the runway (min. 3:01), the pilot had an alarm signal for the engine (flashing red lamp - right front panel). Interesting.
Great student, great IP.
We never did find out what was wrong?? What did your mechanic find?
It was bad fuel. We mixed in 100LL avgas and the problem went away. To be cautious we changed the fuel pump along with a few other things.
Really well done - I'd fly with him anytime!
What was that red blinking light that started to flash just after rotation?
I used to fly into that strip with my dad for lunch.
My dad loved to stop there on our way home from Lake Tahoe.
What’s the wet rate for that plane
Kept it cool!
Did you ever find out what happened.
CTsw? Did the fuel pressure rapidly drop (indicated on the Dynan in red?) I have experienced similar problems in this type. I found it was always in hot ambient conditions once the engine was warm. I wonder if vapor lock was the issue... did you ever find out what happened? Nothing from the manufacturer or Rotax as far as I know. Anyways, very well handled! Great flying and task management, especially with a passenger obstacle. Cheers
Yes it’s a CTSW and you’re exactly right. I was using auto gas at the time. I switched to avgas and decaline now. I change my oil every 25 hours and the spark plugs every 50 hours and never had the problem again. It’s a great airplane. I’m very happy with it.
@@markjohnson9157 unfortunately a common problem with the rotax series is Vapor lock when its hot outside and when you're using auto gas. but sounds like youve already fixed the issue by switching to 100LL! Safe flying!
Well done! And in my hometown!
Very nicely done. Please update us once you know the exact cause.
What type of aircraft is this?
It’s a Flight Design CTSW
I used to live in Vacaville I miss it :/
What game is that!?
It looks so damn realistic !
😅
I stay away from airports with these kind of names bad things seems to happen there I took all my flight training at Happy Valley Municipal Airport
What was the problem?
Nicely done
Iceman.
The throttle keeps going up and down manually…………….next time put camera higher.
Sounds like a fuel filter….Great job flying the airplane. Flying behind a screaming snowmobile engine at 5000 rpm would in itself make me uncomfortable, and I couldn’t stand the noise. High piston speeds make for unreliability. I feel sorry for CFI’s who have to make a living flying that stuff.
Good job. Aviate, navigate, communicate.