PvZ Heroes Moments That Simply Blew My Mind
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2020
- PvZ Heroes Highlights, Glitches, Game Mechanics and Fails #27
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Fry the strikethrough was the difference. Since the strikethrough was blocked the frenzy didn't trigger yet but the turn was stored. When the supernova got mogged only one part of the turn triggered which shouldn't have happened since two bonus attacks should've stored that means that the game couldn't handle it.
The supernova garg killed two plants at the same time as block, so it would do two bonus attacks, which the block only took away one.
the block did block two bonus attacks though didn't it? The orange bonus attack sign appeared twice, but the first time disappeared very quickly.
@@jackiehuang1350 Yes it did remove the blocks. There are two reasons. The first is mime triggered the block and the turn ended since it was on the left which means the game physically couldn't handle the extra bonus attacks. Or the mime garg got blocked and the turn was triggered to end falsely.
It could have also been the environment that the trickster had
A turn was stored? What does the word turn mean to you? Also the discussion was about the Supernova but in your answer you mention the mime Garg. When did the subject switch? And what does removing the blocks even mean? It beats me that there would be so many upvotes for a comment that makes so little sense.
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TryTheImpz T did you find them
@@youknowme2295 No, EA appeared out of nowhere and punched me in the knee. And I dieded :(
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Zombie tricks do nothing when i use them. Very balanced game
I for one respect how much time fry puts into these videos. Also these are my favorite kinds of videos
Frank Pisa yeah like all of the best content from some streams put together
Same bro
2:15
I fear no man but this thing
It scares me
Alexander Bone shit went from 0-god damn weird real fast
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You should add zombot to this deck guy I wish you’d come back.
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For those wondering, when a strike though minion attacks, the hit to face is always registered first before the hit to the minions
The super block blocks a single bonus attack from everything on the field too, the difference here was snorkel had 2 frenzy attacks stored up and the trickster only had 1, which means the entire game mechanic fail difference was: Strikethrew.
8:09 WAIT WHAT
Fry: that was 28 damage!
Also Fry: *does 18 damage*
It would have done 27 if they had enough health, the only reason it did 18 was because they died before the last attack.
I saw a lot of confusing moments about mechanics, where things went completely different. But I think it's because of mime garg, for some reason when he does his bonus attack - game just forgets about some mechanics that were supposed to happen along with that bonus attack. A good example when Choper bonus-attacked rose and Mime Garg bonus-attacked another flower, Rose killed Mime Garg but did not killed Choper. or when Fry used Frenzy Trickster to bonus-attack garlic, he were supposed to move left and do more bonus attacks to other plants but this did not happen because of Mime Garg, after his bonus attack game forgot to move Trickster and he stayed on his lane. This actually explains a lot of moments.
3:45 shroom for 2 is OP :V
Finally! Love this series 😊.
ok so fry let me explain that game mechanic at 8:33
ok so heres what happen:
1.) the supper nova garg kills 2 plants during its attack phase killing those 2 minions WITHOUT TRIGGERING FRENZY ATTACK PHASE
2.) the plant hero block the initial hit (the attack phase attack) during that time since 2 frenzy attacks are outright hard to set up the program recognizes the 1st one (first frenzy attack) to be a frenzy attack and we know that frenzy attack got nerfed to not being able to hit the player when they just block to prevent more damage while the 2nd hit (2nd frenzy attack) got recognized by the game as a BONUS ATTACK meaning if the zombie got transmogrify/leap/etc. it would not matter because since the order of events was over and thats left was the 2nd hit the game ALWAYS PRIORITIZE TRICKS/SUPERPOWERS THAN BONUS ATTACKS SET ON A ZOMBIE EVEN IF THEY ARE REPLACED THE BONUS ATTACK WILL BE TRANSFERED TO THAT ZOMBIE
3.) at 9:24 the reason why the trickster and mime did not attack is because they started their BONUS ATTACKS (Phase) FIRST meaning the game will PRIORITIZE the bonus attack and IF...IF THE PLANT HERO BLOCKS THE BONUS ATTACKS ARE BLOCKED/SKIPPED So transmogrify wont do anything other the change into a random zombie that cost 1 and not transfer any bonus attacks and/or frenzy attacks
Reminder:
Frenzy attacks and bonus attack our two different concepts so they have different interactions/mechanics and a lot more
Good explanation
@@georgibardarov7155 thx this happened to me too so I had to recreate and test their interactions to which cards this works
But but but the garg and the trickster had frenzy :P
Yay another highlights montage! I love all your videos but these are my favorites
10:02 the difference is, that the trickster already did its bonus attacks while activating their block meter. The supernova garg had strikethrough, so it hit the block, recognized it has frenzy, then did a bonus attack in that lane.
Loving the uploads Fry! Keep it up!
So I’ve been rewatching this for a while in ny free time now and have drawn out the schematics for the frenzy bonus attack rules. This doesn’t make sense unless Popcap made a special rule about using mog. You are correct though, in that the snorkel should have done 2 bonus attacks. I love all these clips and thanks so much for streaming! (I’m FridayAfternoon)
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Yes it does what’s your point
Love the video 😍😘❤️🥰 just keep on posting # best series
Nice vid fry keep em up
Don’t you mean simply in the title?
Thanks
What was the first title?
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@@bait5257 what was it
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This video brings a smile to my face
9:36
I think it happened like that because he blocked all your bonus attacks
Yes, I agree with you،
It's like my comment
love the content fry!
The difference between those two games is this
Game #1: SuperNova Garg shot and killed 2 plants, so it had 2 bonus attacks. When it got mugged, it still had another bonus attack.
Game #2: Trickster + Mime killed 1 plant, then did bonus, and was done. This is my explanation
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I never get it
You mean the plant card?
@@capy161 8 sun, a plant does three bonus attacks
I can see running one, just to finish off your opponent
@@bananers6941 but if you get it in your hand on turn 1 you basically have one 1 less card
The mechanic is actually the block meter buff. Since they nerfed bonus attacks going through block meters, if an opponent blocks during a bonus attack combo, it completely cancels all bonus attacks. When you saw the two bonus attack symbols when he blocked those were the two bonus attacks used up due to the meter buff. The supernova garg was doing a regular frenzy bonus attack instead of a combo. so the unknown transmogrify game mechanic caused the transformed zombie to do a bonus attack because it wasnt used up like it was in the combo.
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I’ve been waiting lol
First time the zombie changed but the frenzy didn't, second time all the frenzies were simultaneously activated before the block animation
A block appears to block one bonus attack extra per lane, since the supernova had two bonus attacks left, it blocked one then waited. The trickster situation had the two bonus attacks spread across two lanes so it blocked both.
2:15 WAIT WHAT
Pd:i like that face
I really love your vídeos fry
Yay more highlights
The trickster’s bonus attack was added by an environment, as well as the bonus attack being part of the active ability. The Nova Garg has frenzy as a PART of its card.
In that case, that is why it didn’t work for the trickster
Amazing
I think the reason is because the supernova garg only did one bonus attack because of the strike through while it already being equipped with frenzy. The trickster got the stats from the environment
and also knowing that the trickster already did all of its attacks. In summary, the supernova garg had strikethrough and frenzy while the trickster only had frenzy.
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1:44 because the repeat moss on the left
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I think what happened is in the first one, it happened in the fight phase and the attack lane was there. When moving the attack turn moved to the right, it mustve activated a bonus attack in the after attack phase. For the second one, the attack thing didnt need to move to the lane to the right since there was no highlighted lane, so it didnt do the bonus attack
For 4:18 it happened to me but way longer because there was transfiguration which wasn't being effected by the fire rooster so the rooster kept switching between lanes 1 and 4 until a plant with 1 health went into lane 1 about 5 minutes later lol
The bonus attack v transmogrify might be because of strike through and how the super nova Garg killed the poppies AND hit the block. The snorkel did the bonus attack because it was classified as a completely separate action whereas the mime Garg did a bonus attack because it was connected.
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for the stompadon one I think the trick is played which triggered repeat moss, that happened before the damage of rumble, so it was rumble, moss, rumble damage, conjure, stompadon
Hey fry! Thanks for taking my deck name idea Moby-Trick! Honestly I used big brain and it’s pretty funny isn’t it? 😂
8:10
What I believe happened was the Super Nova was supposed to continue his rage but he got blocked so only 1 happened, then the other transmitted to the snorkel causing it to attack.
I like the music when a weird game mechanic happen
The block only got rid of one of the bonus attacks that super nova had, and since it got mogged during the block, a bonus attack was still triggered since super nova had one more. So the snorkel zombie did the 1 remaining bonus attack since it used to be the super nova.
9:59
When citron blocks you can see the extra attack icon poping up so I think they spend one when you block
Some of these are starting to happen to me! Like the double Garg-throwing-Garg in highlight video 10! When stuff like that happens, I just wonder “am I Fry Em Up yet?”.
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I think the supernova had two attacks charged up. The block meter blocked the first attack but the mog happened before the second, and the game probably registered that minions ability to attack over, but the lane still had an attack.
It’s either because it wasn’t the frenzy attacks; it was just the trickster bonuses, or it was because the attack phase was being carried out in the mime garg’s lane
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I think what happened with the bonus attacks was the difference of strike through. I think mog consumes one bonus attack, for some reason, and the fact supernova garb had some built up attacks could be a likely cause.
The supernova has two attacks when a zombie gets transmorged it loses a bonus attack but an oversight made them lose one instead of all
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8:28 i can explain what happened...apparently he only block the second bonus attack but when he mogged the third bonus attack didnt trigger allowing it to make a bonus attack after it transformed
These game mechanics make so many knots in my head
8:18 I think what happened was that since it was in the attack phase and it got mogged in the middle of the attack it wasn't really a bonus attack but a simple attack phase since the attack phase was still going as you can currently see meaning it can only work in the attack phase so that explains why the other situation where you trickstered mime and it wasn't in attack phase gets mogged it simply didn't register that it was in the attack phase but the zombie phase so yeah i think its because of the phases not really about the bonus attacks
True that
It bonus attacks because the attack that made him block was the strikethrough, so it still had the frenzy attack to do when the supernova garg got mogged.
9:53 I tink it blocks the first bonus attack thats why the snorkel did 1 bonus attack and the dog walker did none
The supernova Gary counts as different frenzys because the strike through counts it as different bonus attacks. When the trickster attacked the mime garg triggerend a block phase, where the trickster’s other bonus attack was wasted. The snorkel also did only 1 bonus attack, bqcaus some was supposed to happen when mog was played
1:49
Because The Repeat Moss's on the left
There are 2 potential differences I could see affecting the results. The first difference is the fact that the supernova garg had frenzy and strikethrough while trickster only has frenzy. 2nd difference would be that the transmogrify would have not done a frenzy attack because the tricksters attack were already blocked.
Also the supernova garg had strikethrough which means it does 2 bonus attacks. It blocked the 1st one but when it was transmogrified, it did the 2nd one. (we know from science goat that this exists) The trickster only had 1 singular attack for face=and that one attack was blocked by the meter.
Because of Strikethrough it blocked the first hit while the garg killed the 2 plants. It then did one bonus attack which was blocked, got mogged, then did it's second bonus attack from killing the second plant. While in the other one, they used their bonus attack during the blocking event
I don't know if it was said, but I believe I know the difference. The Super Nova Garg had 2 bonus attacks stored up because it killed two plants. When the block happens, you see the animation of the Double Strike symbol. The game must initiate 1 bonus attack to disable any bonus attacks that come after blocking, but does not account for the rare scenario of 2 bonus attacked stored in a minion.
Then with the Trickster, it only has 1 bonus attack stored up from killing the 1 recent Plant. When the block happens, you see the Double Strike icon above both the Trickster and Mime Garg, depleting their stored up bonus attacks. They only had 1 each stored up. Super Nova had 2, the game only negates 1.
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I believe that this game has a sort of “stack” like mtg. When both of the bonus attacks happened because of the strike through frenzy killing two plants, the game stored the second one after the first one was canceled by the mog turning the supernova Garg into a diver. Then the second bonus attack happened and did two damage.
My guess is the supernova hit the hero through strikethrough triggering the block meter and it killed a minion(I don’t think it matters if it kills 1 or 2) this “prepared” it to make the 2nd attack. The Mog changed the zombie, but the bonus attack was still triggered. With the trickster, it likely made its bonus attack for being a trickster first. It used that attack which triggered the frenzy, and the mime. When it got changed, it was no longer a fusion with mustache. It was its own zombie. This means it had lost its bonus attack. My guess to why the bonus attack happened with the block meter is it likely makes an invisible “bonus lane” that disappears after the bonus attacks are done. It didn’t make that lane a 2nd time, the lane just didn’t go away.
Fry the difference i todays stream was that when oponent blocked, it blocked the second pair or bonus atacks and you didnt have more bonus atacks left. The line of the supernova garg still had a bonus left to do, then transmografied into snorkel and block, then the snorkel did the bonus atack left
The difference was in the amount of bonus attacks. The block meter defends from one bonus attack each, not 2.
I don't know if this is correct, but I think it's because of the Trickster mechanic where it performs a Bonus Attack upon play. The frenzy attack was stored within the Bonus Attack, and since the new zombie didn't have that same Bonus Attack mechanic the frenzy didn't activate.
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The last highlight i think i can explain, in the first one with the supernova the supernova would have done 2 bonus attacks and the block only blocks one, so when it mogs it does the remaining bonus attack, while in the trickster one he had 1 bonus attack, which the block negated, still a weird Game mechanic
The supernova only attacked twice because the strikethrough counts it as one hit, since supernova has frenzy and killed a plant it will do a bonus attack but since the first attack got blocked the game knows doing another attack is pointless so it keeps it and waits until the block is over. The bonus attack picture popped up showing that the zombie is still gonna do a attack. Since the bonus attack was kept it was passed on to the snorkel. For the the other round the trickster was clearly supposed to do a third attack, but the game failed on it so no attack
I think that the block meter only blocks one bonus attack. So when the garg got blocked it blocked one of the two bonus attacks and the zombie he turned into did that attack, but the trickster was doing each bonus one at a time and the block meter blocked one out of one of his attacks and there where no more to do so the dog didn't do one.
If your wondering what happened I pretty sure it’s because the super nova had strike through killed every thing then activated the the block which made the snorkel do a bonus
I think the supernova garg still did a bonus attack because it had strikethrough, so even though it was blocked by the hero it still did another one because the original target was a plant
The reason snorkel did not do the second bonus attack was because it would be able to kill the buddy from before but not the poppies
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Since there were 3 bonus attacks for super nova, it could’ve stopped the second one, and allowed the third one, but trickster already used 2 bonus attacks before he blocks, and mime activated when a bonus attack is played, so it need to do 3 bonus attacks for it to mog and do a bonus attack.
1:54
Well actually, everything happens from left to right, like fights, so it was like the Stompadon got hit, then Repeat Moss attacked (because of Power Pummel), so Stompadon died, then Imp Commander got hit and then Imposter (or however he's called) died, and you conjured the Imp.
Same with 3:01
The Jolly Holly got played, Cat Lady was freezed, then from left to right: Snowdrop grew and then Fire Rooster moved.
Supernova Garg is a frenzy character so that lane performed a bonus attack whilst trickster loses frenzy when he dies so it doesn’t retain the frenzy like supernova did
So its because of strikethrough when it hitted both plants it gave them 1 bonus but then when it activated the shield it stored its bonus attack in that lane which then triggered due to transmogriphy so in a way it went garg>hit>block>block>transform>snorkel>bonus>stop
In the trickster clip when the opponent blocked you could see the bonus attack symbol on both the cards being used which didn't happen for supernova
I think since I saw both the trickster and the mime do bonus attack 2 during the block, unlike the strike through one
Here is the main difference between the Supernova Garg and the Trickster:
SG was working off a frenzy, it still had 1 more frenzy attack so that carried over into whatever it got MOG into
Trickster first action was the mustache monument (1st bonus), then frenzied (2nd bonus), once frenzy was complete the card got MOG so it never got to do the card mechanic because the card changed (3rd bonus). It could also be that it did the card mechanic first and when it got mog it cancelled the evolution because it is no longer evolved.
Yes ik I'm late. Maybe the snorkel did a bonus attack because it should've done 2, so it works like a number, as in there the garg had a bonus attack of 2, but the mog only subtracted 1, so it still had a bonus attack of 1
It's big brain time. The super nova garg had frenzy and strikethrough, once it attacked it proked the block and then had 2 more bonus attacks it had to do, when the hero blocks, it stops 1 bonus attack, not all bonus attacks, and since the frenzy actually triggers the lane on the zombie side to do a bonus attack, not the zombie. The reason the bonus attack triggers the lane is because team up does not get in the way because there are no team up zombies.
8:20 it can skip only a single bonus attack, the gargantuar just skipped only one of the attacks, the other is saved until the hero decides, it works like a trickster in a mustache monument
9:54 Probably Supornova Garg had Strikethrough and that made a difference. I'm not sure tho.
Fry for trickster it’s the same with heart a choke the game was giving the plant hero time to use the card or not he didn’t desire so as soon as he gets the card the game expects the plant hero to choose
oh how things have improved
In the second one the animation for the bonus attack had already happened if you watch closely it shows the 2 arrows
The difference is in the freeze environment because it was strike through and frenzy game kinda forgot one of the bonus attacks and after transforming it did it