The series is going great, MC. I have about 4000 hours, and some of these things are still new to me depending on what little things are on mods. If not how to create more numbers with a proper combo of mods. Kinda need a refresh of how to play, especially after DE added the murmur.
This was the first time I have ever heard about stance mods affecting the counter. I have been on and off with the game for a while and never had heard anyone go in-depth on it. Thanks for that
I shall forever be salty that the extra combo limit of the venka prime is only really useful for heavy attacks and statstick abilities since combo scaling mods cap out at 11 stacks
@kekistancitizen6900 When someone makes Multiple Statements... It's best to Clarify what "This" you happen to be Talking About. 👀 And yes... Everything she/he Said Is True.... Just apply What He/She Said To Ash. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think he meant that the scaling from the combo counter is like: if u have a 12x combo counter the scaling of blood rush will only be on 11 . Not sure if u understood
@@nido-killn4198Got it. I misread it as talking about the combo counter getting the value of -1, while he meant weeping wounds bonus is proportional to the combo multiplier after subtracting one from it. My bad.
Before it get fixed one day, you can have a permanent 12x multiplier by getting negative combo duration with something like Melee Guidance aura and Corrupt Charge. Also weapons that have infinite combo duration or pause on holster - Livia, Grigori, Xoris, the combo gets consumed when you use pseudo-exalted ability like Whipclaw.
There's one mod that I'm sure no one remembers but Reflex Guard gives additional combo count while blocking & at max rank it's 100%. . The only downsides are that it takes up a warframe mod slot, it's not exilus & the polarity is Vazarin where you would put Adaptation, Vitality, Narrow Minded, Overextended, etc instead. It might be good on Kullervo as a gimmick build though, I'll have to try that lol
Thanks, I did get something out of this, however I think it would be nice to have a walkthrough pointing out the buffs or de-buffs on the top right explained better in detail. Then while talking about it have the ones you're talking about circled or pointed to so that I would know which one you were speaking of. Great job though and thanks for the help.
Its not directly in line with combo counter but when you talk about heavy attacks it makes sense to also tell about the weapon type specific multiplier for heavy attacks where hammers get another 6x dmg multiplier while other types get only a 1x or 2x multiplier
This series is just great. You got this unique style where I know most to all of the info, but still love listening to you telling/reminding me about it. Keep up the good work!
I'm a returning player who got back in with the first open wave of cross-save in December. I found this series yesterday and it's been very useful, especially in helping me to understand things that changed while I was on my 4 year sabbatical (it wouldn't have been that long, but then they announced cross-save so I waited...if I'd know it be an account merge...lol, so it goes), such as shield gating or the galvanized status mods, as well as some finer points that I've never been clear on. Great series, I've got one more to watch, then I hope you find many more topics to cover! ps I wonder if anyone else does this: I mainly use "initial combo" on Hirudo for the built in life-steal on squishy caster frames I don't melee with much, like Mag and Nova.
Just a minor stuff but I'd suggest u changing the ui color to something brighter since red text on black background is pretty hard for the viewer to read the stuff relevant to what you are sayung. Loved your vids btw
One minor missed point is that baruuk isn't the only one that has damage scaling with combo multiplier. Sevagoth's Shadow scales with it too but since body count mod and naramon focus doesn't work on it, drifting contact is the only mod you can use to extend the combo duration in that case. Naramon focus does work on every other exalted weapon though.
Everybody was going nuts over ceramic dagger incarnon and it's initial combo. Me, a heavy weight connoisseur decided to build Fragor prime into a heavy attack melee weapon. It can yeet acolytes off of this plane of existence in one hit, armor, shield and everything, without building the combo any more than what the initial combo is. I actually built the weapon originally to use with kullervo, and slam dunking enemies for over 130 million damage was kinda satisfying. Fragor as a hammer has extremely high base damage, so it doesn't need the slash procs and all that fancy stuff to kill stuff, it's more like taking a wrecking ball into arcade and playing some whack-a-mole.
it is indeed an often slept on fact for melees that damage multis affect combo gain, so people who just mash speed combos with low multis build combo fairly slowly. overall pretty good. although you slept on heavy slams and the fact that tennokai lets you do those for free also. So it's pretty spicy on stuff like Sarofang or Arca Titron.
I'm a returning player (thanks to cross-save) and didn't know they removed combo counter increasing melee damage, replacing it with heavy attacks. That's really nice to know.
It's been six years since melee 3.0 released and it's today I learn that combo counter doesn't affect normal attacks like it used to in 2.0. I've been playing this whole time trying not to use heavy attacks, because they've wasted combo counter, BECAUSE I THOUGH IT AFFECTED NORMAL ATTACKS.
I love this series and have learned quite a bit about the systems in the game from you. Thank you for putting all this up, you're awesome! (Also, could we get something on Heat Inherit someday?) I love your stuff! Hope you have a great day!
Gladiator Set works on all exalted melee weapons, but only when the Normal weapon has the buffs. So you would need Melee Crescendo to fully use Gladiator set on Excalibur.
Which is, incidentally, basically the only good use case for Melee Crescendo. Hopefully the five people who have maxed it out by now are Excalibur mains.
@@TheDoomsdayzoner Glaives were already busted, but I hadn't considered Gunblades. Maybe because I've done every Netracell so far and still haven't got the damn arcane to drop.
Daymn it. This is the first time I've been the first to a video, and you have thwarted my attempt at commenting "first". I shall now go to level cap with my knewfound knowledge of combo and khora.
ok but why is initial combo bad? it takes 5 seconds for it to reach cap, by itself. does it prevent you from gaining combo with it? it also carries over from battles to battle. so if there is ever a pause you'd start with those stacks and it would stay there.
Also, something worth noting that wasn't mentioned is how galdiator mods, blood rush, and weeping wounds act as a multiplier to your base critical/status chance. This means that you can install mods like true steel or sacraficial steel to get red crit numbers on most melee weapons as long as they have high enough crit chance. For players that have a fully leveled blood rush, this isn't really something you need to worry about but for new players if they want to engage in this system asap the best way imo is to find a melee they like with decent base crit around 20-25% is ideal but higher is of course better. Get True Steel and then go to POE and farm for the galdiator mods. With this set, you can very easily make weapons orange crit, and building up more combo will make you start to red crit. If you even go as far as to install the set mods on your Warframe, you can even get a better crit multiplier than BR at 60%. For a quarter of the Endo cost to fully level BR.
My dearest MC, could you do a video about Void status? Playing a lot and still have no clue what a hell does it do, even though i read its mechanic lol.
It's the most powerful aoe damage ability in Helminth, so it's used in conjunction with fast frames (mostly Titania with Razorwing augment) to rapidly nuke your way through normal star chart missions.
because it nukes rooms in just two button presses. tapping the skill applies heat, holding it applies cold, applying both of thermal sunder will cause a reaction (doesnt matter if you apply heat + cold OR cold + heat first, either way works), stripping enemy armor and dealing blast damage. This used to be much stronger, back when there was a bug that allowed it to hit damage cap (i think). Now its not as strong but still very good. Also if im not mistaken the blast damage scales off of how many heat stacks the enemy had prior to applying cold. So youd want to spam as much heat sunders before using a cold sunder to deal the most damage
Perhaps it will be easier to Understand if you know how Affinity gets Distributed (there's a But Why video for this aswell).... This should explain why Heat Thermal Tsundere is Used Specifically when Levelling Warframe's.
Make a video on damage amplification, i have been using shiver on archons and i think it make them easier. Also doom of dagath, it kind of works like the old viral, reducing how much damage you need to do, to kill an enemy.
This has more to Do with the Cold Status Effect Slowing downing their Ability to Use their Invulnerability Abilities than it does with the Damage Bonus that *Secondary Shiver* Provides... Which happens to be Addative with *Hornet Strike* . In other words... It's *Coldition Overload* 😎
odd question but what syandana is that its looks really clean, though it was a prime access one but i dont see it when i look through the prime access list of syandana
You answered your Own Question.... It's an Exploit.... Feels like Wasted Effort to make a Video about Something that's Going to Fixed. But it might Make for Good Click Bait. 👀
because combos are useless i never care for combos, and i build my Pennant for full heavy damage and it never has problems. the combo update quite easily killed the point of caring about retaining combos.
The series is going great, MC. I have about 4000 hours, and some of these things are still new to me depending on what little things are on mods. If not how to create more numbers with a proper combo of mods. Kinda need a refresh of how to play, especially after DE added the murmur.
This was the first time I have ever heard about stance mods affecting the counter. I have been on and off with the game for a while and never had heard anyone go in-depth on it. Thanks for that
Indeed... I also only found out Last Year....
SPREAD THE WORD…TENNO !!!
> Wake up
> new "but why?" video
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I shall forever be salty that the extra combo limit of the venka prime is only really useful for heavy attacks and statstick abilities since combo scaling mods cap out at 11 stacks
Is it also true for ash ultimate?
@kekistancitizen6900
When someone makes Multiple Statements... It's best to Clarify what "This" you happen to be Talking About. 👀
And yes... Everything she/he Said Is True.... Just apply What He/She Said To Ash. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Forgot to mention that mods like weeping wounds and blood rush, scale off combo multiplier -1.
But...but... he did...
how do you get a -1 on combo multiplier? Did you mean -1 combo duration shananigans?
I think he meant that the scaling from the combo counter is like: if u have a 12x combo counter the scaling of blood rush will only be on 11 . Not sure if u understood
@@nido-killn4198Got it. I misread it as talking about the combo counter getting the value of -1, while he meant weeping wounds bonus is proportional to the combo multiplier after subtracting one from it. My bad.
He did say that lol. I‘m just going to say it: i think you skipped the video
Before it get fixed one day, you can have a permanent 12x multiplier by getting negative combo duration with something like Melee Guidance aura and Corrupt Charge. Also weapons that have infinite combo duration or pause on holster - Livia, Grigori, Xoris, the combo gets consumed when you use pseudo-exalted ability like Whipclaw.
There's one mod that I'm sure no one remembers but Reflex Guard gives additional combo count while blocking & at max rank it's 100%.
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The only downsides are that it takes up a warframe mod slot, it's not exilus & the polarity is Vazarin where you would put Adaptation, Vitality, Narrow Minded, Overextended, etc instead. It might be good on Kullervo as a gimmick build though, I'll have to try that lol
Thanks, I did get something out of this, however I think it would be nice to have a walkthrough pointing out the buffs or de-buffs on the top right explained better in detail. Then while talking about it have the ones you're talking about circled or pointed to so that I would know which one you were speaking of. Great job though and thanks for the help.
Gotta be honest, didn't realize blocking increased the counter lol
This Mechanic can be Abit Inconsistent sometimes so yeah... It's no surprise people didn't Know.
Its not directly in line with combo counter but when you talk about heavy attacks it makes sense to also tell about the weapon type specific multiplier for heavy attacks where hammers get another 6x dmg multiplier while other types get only a 1x or 2x multiplier
This series is just great.
You got this unique style where I know most to all of the info, but still love listening to you telling/reminding me about it.
Keep up the good work!
I'm a returning player who got back in with the first open wave of cross-save in December. I found this series yesterday and it's been very useful, especially in helping me to understand things that changed while I was on my 4 year sabbatical (it wouldn't have been that long, but then they announced cross-save so I waited...if I'd know it be an account merge...lol, so it goes), such as shield gating or the galvanized status mods, as well as some finer points that I've never been clear on. Great series, I've got one more to watch, then I hope you find many more topics to cover!
ps I wonder if anyone else does this: I mainly use "initial combo" on Hirudo for the built in life-steal on squishy caster frames I don't melee with much, like Mag and Nova.
Just a minor stuff but I'd suggest u changing the ui color to something brighter since red text on black background is pretty hard for the viewer to read the stuff relevant to what you are sayung. Loved your vids btw
One minor missed point is that baruuk isn't the only one that has damage scaling with combo multiplier. Sevagoth's Shadow scales with it too but since body count mod and naramon focus doesn't work on it, drifting contact is the only mod you can use to extend the combo duration in that case. Naramon focus does work on every other exalted weapon though.
Everybody was going nuts over ceramic dagger incarnon and it's initial combo. Me, a heavy weight connoisseur decided to build Fragor prime into a heavy attack melee weapon. It can yeet acolytes off of this plane of existence in one hit, armor, shield and everything, without building the combo any more than what the initial combo is.
I actually built the weapon originally to use with kullervo, and slam dunking enemies for over 130 million damage was kinda satisfying. Fragor as a hammer has extremely high base damage, so it doesn't need the slash procs and all that fancy stuff to kill stuff, it's more like taking a wrecking ball into arcade and playing some whack-a-mole.
youre one of the only remaining warframetubers i still watch!
If you want more info on the rauta specifically: I can recommend TheKengeneers video on it because it also is a bit more tricky than it sounds sadly.
The only numbers I care about is the number of MIGHTY SEERS that I have
it is indeed an often slept on fact for melees that damage multis affect combo gain, so people who just mash speed combos with low multis build combo fairly slowly.
overall pretty good. although you slept on heavy slams and the fact that tennokai lets you do those for free also. So it's pretty spicy on stuff like Sarofang or Arca Titron.
I'm a returning player (thanks to cross-save) and didn't know they removed combo counter increasing melee damage, replacing it with heavy attacks. That's really nice to know.
It's been six years since melee 3.0 released and it's today I learn that combo counter doesn't affect normal attacks like it used to in 2.0.
I've been playing this whole time trying not to use heavy attacks, because they've wasted combo counter, BECAUSE I THOUGH IT AFFECTED NORMAL ATTACKS.
I love this series and have learned quite a bit about the systems in the game from you. Thank you for putting all this up, you're awesome! (Also, could we get something on Heat Inherit someday?) I love your stuff! Hope you have a great day!
Yes but basically what it does?
It multiple the initial damage? The final damage?
I couldn't notice a clear statement in the video...
Mr 29 and have no clue how combo counter works so thank you, honestly
Gladiator Set works on all exalted melee weapons, but only when the Normal weapon has the buffs. So you would need Melee Crescendo to fully use Gladiator set on Excalibur.
Which is, incidentally, basically the only good use case for Melee Crescendo.
Hopefully the five people who have maxed it out by now are Excalibur mains.
@@TehCakeIzALie1 "the only good use" LMAO
Sure. Tell that to people who use Gunblades and Glaives. Butt hay, I ain't gonna snitch.
@@TheDoomsdayzoner Glaives were already busted, but I hadn't considered Gunblades.
Maybe because I've done every Netracell so far and still haven't got the damn arcane to drop.
@@TehCakeIzALie1 well, I did. And trust me - you don't even need the Rank 5 of this thing. Just ranks 0-2 are enough. That's how powerful it is.
It's Actually More Complicated Than That. 👀
I like this series of quick explaining things
FIRST !
Daymn it. This is the first time I've been the first to a video, and you have thwarted my attempt at commenting "first". I shall now go to level cap with my knewfound knowledge of combo and khora.
ok but why is initial combo bad?
it takes 5 seconds for it to reach cap, by itself.
does it prevent you from gaining combo with it?
it also carries over from battles to battle. so if there is ever a pause you'd start with those stacks and it would stay there.
Also, something worth noting that wasn't mentioned is how galdiator mods, blood rush, and weeping wounds act as a multiplier to your base critical/status chance. This means that you can install mods like true steel or sacraficial steel to get red crit numbers on most melee weapons as long as they have high enough crit chance. For players that have a fully leveled blood rush, this isn't really something you need to worry about but for new players if they want to engage in this system asap the best way imo is to find a melee they like with decent base crit around 20-25% is ideal but higher is of course better. Get True Steel and then go to POE and farm for the galdiator mods. With this set, you can very easily make weapons orange crit, and building up more combo will make you start to red crit. If you even go as far as to install the set mods on your Warframe, you can even get a better crit multiplier than BR at 60%. For a quarter of the Endo cost to fully level BR.
My dearest MC, could you do a video about Void status? Playing a lot and still have no clue what a hell does it do, even though i read its mechanic lol.
but one thing doest not clean to me is melee weapon combo work on exalted weapon like valkyra claws ? or valkyr claws has own combo ?
As a finn, very nice pronunciation on the rauta
..and I still don't know how to build combo with a statstick for Baruuk' Desert Wind. Any help?
You forgot to mention Kullevo's 2 and 4 for scaling combo counter
its shown in the video even though he didnt say it, the image of warframe abilities that effect or scale off of combo is there
can you explain why Kullervos combo count seems to go much faster than other frames when using initial combo mods?
his passive grants +75% heavy attack efficiency, so the counter doesnt have to start building back up from 0
When I’m using kullervo, the combo counter goes to 221. Why is this
I thought it was the weapon type that influenced combo gain, ill test this for myself.
Can you do a But Why about thermal sunder? I don't understand why everyone raves so much about it
It's the most powerful aoe damage ability in Helminth, so it's used in conjunction with fast frames (mostly Titania with Razorwing augment) to rapidly nuke your way through normal star chart missions.
because it nukes rooms in just two button presses. tapping the skill applies heat, holding it applies cold, applying both of thermal sunder will cause a reaction (doesnt matter if you apply heat + cold OR cold + heat first, either way works), stripping enemy armor and dealing blast damage.
This used to be much stronger, back when there was a bug that allowed it to hit damage cap (i think). Now its not as strong but still very good.
Also if im not mistaken the blast damage scales off of how many heat stacks the enemy had prior to applying cold. So youd want to spam as much heat sunders before using a cold sunder to deal the most damage
Perhaps it will be easier to Understand if you know how Affinity gets Distributed (there's a But Why video for this aswell)....
This should explain why Heat Thermal Tsundere is Used Specifically when Levelling Warframe's.
So to get one combo counter you have to hit 20 times?
Make a video on damage amplification, i have been using shiver on archons and i think it make them easier.
Also doom of dagath, it kind of works like the old viral, reducing how much damage you need to do, to kill an enemy.
This has more to Do with the Cold Status Effect Slowing downing their Ability to Use their Invulnerability Abilities than it does with the Damage Bonus that *Secondary Shiver* Provides... Which happens to be Addative with *Hornet Strike* .
In other words... It's *Coldition Overload* 😎
Just found out today that doing an Operator slam with Naramon equipped gives you double combo counter for 20 seconds.
Some people don't even know about Slam Transference or Finisher Transference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
why are you using qorvex instead of inaros now?
Prep for the Qorvex Guide Maybe ?
I make it a point to replace all my dual sword stance mods with the uwu-irling tiger stance because it stacks combos really fast
odd question but what syandana is that its looks really clean, though it was a prime access one but i dont see it when i look through the prime access list of syandana
Tennogen.
@@OniGanon thanks
He forgot the true punishment and reflex guard mods as well
He never Intended to Cover Every Single Mod.... Both Of those were Covered by simply Mentioning Combo Count Chance and 1 Mod as an Example.
Regardless it would benefit the both veterans and those new to war frame if he is thorough with the information he is presenting
It’s just informational edict
That's not the Point of this Series.
So what’s the point sir
Ah, so it doesn't affect Exalted Blade or Hysteria?
Watch the Video Again. 😐
What about the negative combo exploit with Rauta ?
You answered your Own Question.... It's an Exploit....
Feels like Wasted Effort to make a Video about Something that's Going to Fixed.
But it might Make for Good Click Bait. 👀
Hey MC, Just curious why you didn't add a section about Sniper combo?
oooo thx for that topic :)
Dang already have qorvex prime!
Exergis maybe?
Next Video: "Will Qorvex be the replacement to my Inaros" | BUT WHY?
inaros is the mummy while qorvex is the whole tomb.
whipclaw will consume infinite combo counter.
god tier video.
C O M B O | H I T
I don't bother with combo... Things are dead before it gets high enough to benefit me.
because combos are useless i never care for combos, and i build my Pennant for full heavy damage and it never has problems. the combo update quite easily killed the point of caring about retaining combos.
Second! I hope.
Edit: Damn, third. Still