The little ones lol they could jump so high because they have little mass to be able to jump with their springy legs. The bigger ones don’t have nearly as much hops.
As someone who was a horse owner for a half century, I don't find cows intimidating. However, I would love to have both cows and goats for cheese making so I very much appreciated this video.
No problem thank you for your support! Actually the video just before this one is something I said Weir I think Goats are better for most people lol. I think you are not one of those people haha. Check that out if you liked this video.
Awesome info! Biggest reason you'd want a goat at all, in my mind, is to have butter and cheese as well as milk so... Nubians for me!😁 The little ones are so adorable!
Before you make the decision, just know that Goats do not naturally separate their cream from their milk. I guess I can make a video going way more in-depth on this because it’s going to be harder to get these things in from a cow, but it is possible with a cream separator.
I just stumbled across your comment again and I misunderstood your question. Then Nigerians are actually my neighbors and I use them to film so that I could show everybody the difference. These are breeding stock with fancy genetics lol. They raise them to go to homes for people as pets.
Okay, I have some more questions! Isn’t it diet that affects the taste of the milk or is it just the breed? Also, I saw a cow that had great hand milking teats, is it typical that they have smaller teats than Nubian goats or it’s it just varying from animal to animal?
It’s actually both diet and goat! What a great question! There are a lot of cows that have incredible teeth also where you don’t have to do the stripping method, but it tends to be a common for many cow milkers. But some cows have great teats while others have teats that are almost the size of Nigerian dwarf goats lol
Most dairy cows are bred for commercial dairies where they use milking machines, and small teats aren't a problem. Someone breeding for hand-milking will pay more attention to the size of teats on their animals. Both diet and breed affect the taste of the milk. The Alpine breeds (Alpine, Toggenburg, and Saanen) are more likely to have a 'goaty' flavor to their milk, especially some strains of Toggs. The other breeds mostly have better-flavored milk, even Oberhaslis, which are technically in the Alpine goat classification. Nubians, Nigerian Dwarfs, and their crosses have especially good tasting milk, partly because of the higher butterfat. (Crosses include Kinder goats and all of the mini breeds.)
Yeah, even people without dairy can use milk machines, and I’ve even seen some pretty nifty milking machines for goats that you can’t really do for cows. I think the majority of goat milk enthusiast owners are hand milking though.
As with most breed stock decisions - quality, quantity, health, etc. play most important roles. Why have goats at all? Milk? - use a cow. Want cute - keep NDs. Need something in between that is best - keep/use Nubians - when practicing proper goat care - easiest keepers, most milk and milk products per animal with fewer issues of any kind and most kids 3 times every 2 years - keeping in mind that PROPER goat care is given. Want easy - do NDs. Nice vid - thanks for sharing.
So I actually disagree that just if you want milk to get a cow. There are plenty of people who want to do things like Homestead or bring milk to their homes but they don’t have space for a cow nor the time or the skills for experience. Yes Goats come with their own difficulties, but overall, if it’s milk people want, but can’t have a cow then I think goats are where it’s at.
There can be a rigorous debate between some on whether you should "full hand" milk or "strip" milk. For context from my end, I started with goats and the first time milking a cow I milked with a group farmers who proceeded to chuckle as I "milked like a goat farmer" which I was, lol. Before I brought home my first cow I maintained that "full hand" milking was the only that I would milk my cows, but I quickly realized why my friends laughed at the way I milked a cow, and thats because not all cows how large teeth like a larger goat along with the fact that cows just have a harder time with it. I have only milked one single cow that preferred the "full hand" pinch and squeeze method. the rest prefer the "strip" technique. Most Jersey cows just have teats that are too small to really wrap any hand around at all, especially for a man with larger hands.
They can kill maple trees, especially the young ones older ones not so much. The bark of older ones are a little bit, thicker and harder for them to “girdle.” Girdle just means stripping the bark all the way around so that the tree can’t get nutrients to the leaves. Don’t quote me exactly on goats not killing grown maples though because Goats can surprise you lol
You didn't mention the fact that ND butterfat is between 7% and 10%, whereas the Nubian is at 5%. So even though the Nubian IS the highest butterfat producer of the larger breeds, overall, the ND still is top dog.
Preferably, you would need three for a good her two will be fine. You can get pretty lonely. With a whole lot of person person contact one might be OK but that’s just Mike. It’s not like a dog where they can be OK with person for their pack. And if you are a senior citizen, it depends on your capabilities, but to not get pushed around I would suggest Nigerian dwarf for sure
Minimum of two. If you try to keep one goat by itself, it will cry constantly. (And if you got Nubians, they are renowned for how loud they can be! We used to have one that I nicknamed Foghorn, because that's what she sounded like!)
For the minimum, you can perhaps start with one, a pregnant one, so you can take advantage of milk and little ones to come. From there, you likely have a male to start a herd.
I sell Nigerians that only give 1/4th a gallon a day they need to give a minimum of half a gallon a day by full maturity to stay in the herd I have some that will give very close to a gallon a day
Hmmm can’t decide 🤔 Think I’ll get one of each 😂
Why not! Hahaha
Excellent idea!!
Sounds good to me!
Great video. Is one more escape prone than the other? Which one respects electric more?
The little ones lol they could jump so high because they have little mass to be able to jump with their springy legs. The bigger ones don’t have nearly as much hops.
We are going to get the Nigerian goats as our first ones ever! 🙏🏼👍 thanks for sharing information about them 😊
Super exciting! Let me know if you want to see more videos about them. I’d love to help in anyway I can and it would give me great ideas for videos.
I'm going to get one mini nubian and 2 ND and see who fits.
As someone who was a horse owner for a half century, I don't find cows intimidating. However, I would love to have both cows and goats for cheese making so I very much appreciated this video.
No problem thank you for your support! Actually the video just before this one is something I said Weir I think Goats are better for most people lol. I think you are not one of those people haha. Check that out if you liked this video.
Awesome info!
Biggest reason you'd want a goat at all, in my mind, is to have butter and cheese as well as milk so...
Nubians for me!😁
The little ones are so adorable!
Before you make the decision, just know that Goats do not naturally separate their cream from their milk. I guess I can make a video going way more in-depth on this because it’s going to be harder to get these things in from a cow, but it is possible with a cream separator.
I have had Nubians and a cow. I milked them both the same, you strip the teat at the end of the milking .
Which method do you use? I’m assuming you strip both or do you pinch and squeeze and then strip at the end
If I missed it, sorry, but what was the purpose of the Nigerians if you aren’t milking the ones you have?
I do milk both, my kids specifically one of them enjoy Goats milk more and I use the milk to make soap also
@@LittleFarmLand that would make a pretty good video.
I just stumbled across your comment again and I misunderstood your question. Then Nigerians are actually my neighbors and I use them to film so that I could show everybody the difference. These are breeding stock with fancy genetics lol. They raise them to go to homes for people as pets.
so adorable too 🥰
Honestly, I can barely handle being around the Nigerian dwarfs they’re way too adorable
Okay, I have some more questions! Isn’t it diet that affects the taste of the milk or is it just the breed?
Also, I saw a cow that had great hand milking teats, is it typical that they have smaller teats than Nubian goats or it’s it just varying from animal to animal?
It’s actually both diet and goat! What a great question!
There are a lot of cows that have incredible teeth also where you don’t have to do the stripping method, but it tends to be a common for many cow milkers. But some cows have great teats while others have teats that are almost the size of Nigerian dwarf goats lol
Most dairy cows are bred for commercial dairies where they use milking machines, and small teats aren't a problem. Someone breeding for hand-milking will pay more attention to the size of teats on their animals.
Both diet and breed affect the taste of the milk. The Alpine breeds (Alpine, Toggenburg, and Saanen) are more likely to have a 'goaty' flavor to their milk, especially some strains of Toggs. The other breeds mostly have better-flavored milk, even Oberhaslis, which are technically in the Alpine goat classification. Nubians, Nigerian Dwarfs, and their crosses have especially good tasting milk, partly because of the higher butterfat. (Crosses include Kinder goats and all of the mini breeds.)
Yeah, even people without dairy can use milk machines, and I’ve even seen some pretty nifty milking machines for goats that you can’t really do for cows. I think the majority of goat milk enthusiast owners are hand milking though.
As with most breed stock decisions - quality, quantity, health, etc. play most important roles. Why have goats at all? Milk? - use a cow. Want cute - keep NDs. Need something in between that is best - keep/use Nubians - when practicing proper goat care - easiest keepers, most milk and milk products per animal with fewer issues of any kind and most kids 3 times every 2 years - keeping in mind that PROPER goat care is given. Want easy - do NDs. Nice vid - thanks for sharing.
So I actually disagree that just if you want milk to get a cow. There are plenty of people who want to do things like Homestead or bring milk to their homes but they don’t have space for a cow nor the time or the skills for experience. Yes Goats come with their own difficulties, but overall, if it’s milk people want, but can’t have a cow then I think goats are where it’s at.
Also, sorry I didn’t address your last point thank you so much for the nice comment. I really really do appreciate your support.
That is not how you milk out a cow. That is how you strip out a cow.
There can be a rigorous debate between some on whether you should "full hand" milk or "strip" milk.
For context from my end, I started with goats and the first time milking a cow I milked with a group farmers who proceeded to chuckle as I "milked like a goat farmer" which I was, lol.
Before I brought home my first cow I maintained that "full hand" milking was the only that I would milk my cows, but I quickly realized why my friends laughed at the way I milked a cow, and thats because not all cows how large teeth like a larger goat along with the fact that cows just have a harder time with it.
I have only milked one single cow that preferred the "full hand" pinch and squeeze method. the rest prefer the "strip" technique.
Most Jersey cows just have teats that are too small to really wrap any hand around at all, especially for a man with larger hands.
Is it true goats can’t eat maple trees, including box elder?
They can kill maple trees, especially the young ones older ones not so much. The bark of older ones are a little bit, thicker and harder for them to “girdle.” Girdle just means stripping the bark all the way around so that the tree can’t get nutrients to the leaves.
Don’t quote me exactly on goats not killing grown maples though because Goats can surprise you lol
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You didn't mention the fact that ND butterfat is between 7% and 10%, whereas the Nubian is at 5%. So even though the Nubian IS the highest butterfat producer of the larger breeds, overall, the ND still is top dog.
This is good for a video by itself. I can make another one to add to this.
Why choose - go Mini Nubian 😂
My personal favorite.
How many goats do you need for a healthy herd? Minimum? Can you have only one? I’m most interested in milk production and am a “senior citizen”.
Preferably, you would need three for a good her two will be fine. You can get pretty lonely.
With a whole lot of person person contact one might be OK but that’s just Mike. It’s not like a dog where they can be OK with person for their pack.
And if you are a senior citizen, it depends on your capabilities, but to not get pushed around I would suggest Nigerian dwarf for sure
Minimum of two. If you try to keep one goat by itself, it will cry constantly. (And if you got Nubians, they are renowned for how loud they can be! We used to have one that I nicknamed Foghorn, because that's what she sounded like!)
For the minimum, you can perhaps start with one, a pregnant one, so you can take advantage of milk and little ones to come. From there, you likely have a male to start a herd.
Minimum of two and then either AI or get a friend with a buck and pay a stud fee to breed
I sell Nigerians that only give 1/4th a gallon a day they need to give a minimum of half a gallon a day by full maturity to stay in the herd I have some that will give very close to a gallon a day