Agreed, Thanks for the video! After years with an air bag, (great ride loaded, horrible empty. Even with just 5lbs. air). Always deflating and filling(what a pain). The Roadmaster was put on because the Timbrens were coming in contact with a light load, (hard ride). Gave it a bigger space and even better ride than stock!
@@AnthonyJ350 You know I didn't want to say anything but, it is like a race car now (not really) ( I have a full Banks Power Package for towing, extra 270 lb. torque and now its so much more fun to drive now!)
Do you feel that the Silverado suspension mods were worth the investment? I have a one ton that's tired and considering a full respring but my spine disagree
I really do. I think the Roadmaster Active Suspension with Timbrens is one of the best overall combinations you can put together. I would just match it with factory spec leafs to keep the ride smooth unloaded.
@@AnthonyJ350 This is true, and towing was never even mentioned in this video. If towing also, the Roadmaster will help with the sway where the Timbrens will not.
@@thomassullivan1207 Timbrens will help a little with sway when fully engaged. They would resist the weight transfer during cornering. If not engaged or fully, no they won't help with cornering.
Hey guys. Can someone if this is purely cosmetic? Or does it help in any way? I'm having an issue. I got a tacoma..but realized payload is really low...is there any way to increase it?
@@AnthonyJ350 That's the official response, but I will suggest different phrasing. These suspension improvements do increase the safety factor and handling when pushing beyond stated payload limits. I'm a Tacoma owner. I don't way overload, but it is impossible to avoid overloads at times. I reduce speeds and rely on Sumo springs and a weight distribution hitch for my camper trailer. I stay well within the towing limit, but go over the payload limit.
I just picked up a Hellwig EX980 helper leaf for my 2007 Tacoma but haven't installed them yet. Even with the recall springs the poor truck sags as bad as the Frontier in this video when it's loaded. I don't feel that a 1/2 yd of topsoil, or 800 lb of concrete, or a dozen cinderblock is too much to ask of this little truck. It's deep into the bump stops and handles like shit with that load, even though the bed, frame, engine, and brakes have ZERO issues. The Tacoma handles a 500 lb sportbike and gear without hitting the bump stops, but the payload rating is roughly 1,600 lb. It SHOULD be able to haul 800-1,000 lb in the bed even with my 200 lb ass and a 150 lb bed box and a 50 lb toolbox. The helpers should help with that.
Yes...remove the bumpers, seats, headliners, air conditioning, spare tire, floor mats, center console, window visors, radio, and heater...you get the idea.
Perhaps you can help me. I use my 2002 Tahoe with spring and Moog HD for work but sometimes when the load is more than 650 kg. their hardness is not enough. I am thinking of the airlift 1000 or Timbren and I don’t know which one to choose. What do you think? I am afraid the Airlift will not withstand temperatures below -30 Celsius. Thank you in advance)
That’s bull shut with a bomb going off 300 k above the ground no light getting threw to ramp up our solar panels would not be very much but if it went off in the summer would not produce much power so much that it would not help us much !😊
I went to the roadmaster website for the leaf helper for a 2017 Nissan frontier, but they only sells for titan and Xterra, question will the Xterra fit on the Frontier?
I would do both. The Roadmaster will act as a traction bar, sway bar and helper springs all in one. If you need extra help with the weight, you can add air to your system fine tuning it. I would install a system with an onboard compressor. th-cam.com/video/GhZPrIv-VVc/w-d-xo.html
Interesting video, I know that when I added a extra leaf spring to my old 1500, it got about 2in taller but when I max loaded both my silverado and my stock f150 with dirt, the silverado was visibly much lower than the f150. Granted the silverado was a 6.5ft bed and the f150 a 5.5, so maybe there was a 100lb difference between the trucks. I'm considering beefing up the f150 suspension, especially since im gonna need to replace the factory stocks in about a year or so.
I read some of the comments when you stated be more concise appears Im not the only one who thinks this was a pointless exercise . I should be asking you wtf was the point of all that dicking about ?
So finally got my set. I it works with timbrens . I did the thin shim setting . It raised the bacj of my titan 1” . I didn’t pull my rv trailer yet so hard to tell how much it improved
How does this prove anything using 2 different year trucks the leaf springs themselves could have been made differently throughout the years on top of that one truck could have thicker leaf spring and the older one could also be a hell of alot mor worn out this video justifies nothing on wether or not they really help
@@AnthonyJ350 I'm no Ram expert, but if you do ALL your research, I think you'll find it's an air suspension option. What the dealer may offer is only done to grub more money from the customer.
@@AM-hf9kk most of us who haul firewood get as much as we reasonably can in one trip. One layer ain't gonna cut it either. I routinely haul with a graveyard hump of oak rounds on my 2016 f150. It squats alot with the firewood and when I tow our 5k lb travel trailer. The timbrens would help alot in our situation.
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Roadmaster Active Suspension with Timbrens. End of any load or empty ride problems! No maintenance ever! Easy install.
Definitely one of the best combinations you can do for your truck!
Agreed, Thanks for the video! After years with an air bag, (great ride loaded, horrible empty. Even with just 5lbs. air). Always deflating and filling(what a pain). The Roadmaster was put on because the Timbrens were coming in contact with a light load, (hard ride). Gave it a bigger space and even better ride than stock!
@@Will-bp2yc And the Roadmaster will act as a traction bar as well. I'm sure your truck is smoother now and feels more planted
@@AnthonyJ350 You know I didn't want to say anything but, it is like a race car now (not really) ( I have a full Banks Power Package for towing, extra 270 lb. torque and now its so much more fun to drive now!)
Do you feel that the Silverado suspension mods were worth the investment? I have a one ton that's tired and considering a full respring but my spine disagree
I really do. I think the Roadmaster Active Suspension with Timbrens is one of the best overall combinations you can put together. I would just match it with factory spec leafs to keep the ride smooth unloaded.
Surprised how well the stock Sierra held up the weight
It held the weight well. The helper springs would help when cornering though
@@AnthonyJ350 This is true, and towing was never even mentioned in this video. If towing also, the Roadmaster will help with the sway where the Timbrens will not.
@@thomassullivan1207 Timbrens will help a little with sway when fully engaged. They would resist the weight transfer during cornering.
If not engaged or fully, no they won't help with cornering.
Hey guys. Can someone if this is purely cosmetic? Or does it help in any way? I'm having an issue. I got a tacoma..but realized payload is really low...is there any way to increase it?
You can't increase the vehicle's rated payload. You can only add products like this to handle the payload rating better.
@@AnthonyJ350 That's the official response, but I will suggest different phrasing. These suspension improvements do increase the safety factor and handling when pushing beyond stated payload limits.
I'm a Tacoma owner. I don't way overload, but it is impossible to avoid overloads at times. I reduce speeds and rely on Sumo springs and a weight distribution hitch for my camper trailer. I stay well within the towing limit, but go over the payload limit.
I just picked up a Hellwig EX980 helper leaf for my 2007 Tacoma but haven't installed them yet. Even with the recall springs the poor truck sags as bad as the Frontier in this video when it's loaded. I don't feel that a 1/2 yd of topsoil, or 800 lb of concrete, or a dozen cinderblock is too much to ask of this little truck. It's deep into the bump stops and handles like shit with that load, even though the bed, frame, engine, and brakes have ZERO issues.
The Tacoma handles a 500 lb sportbike and gear without hitting the bump stops, but the payload rating is roughly 1,600 lb. It SHOULD be able to haul 800-1,000 lb in the bed even with my 200 lb ass and a 150 lb bed box and a 50 lb toolbox. The helpers should help with that.
Yes...remove the bumpers, seats, headliners, air conditioning, spare tire, floor mats, center console, window visors, radio, and heater...you get the idea.
Perhaps you can help me. I use my 2002 Tahoe with spring and Moog HD for work but sometimes when the load is more than 650 kg. their hardness is not enough. I am thinking of the airlift 1000 or Timbren and I don’t know which one to choose. What do you think? I am afraid the Airlift will not withstand temperatures below -30 Celsius. Thank you in advance)
Depends, do you want adjustability or you just want it to work?
That’s bull shut with a bomb going off 300 k above the ground no light getting threw to ramp up our solar panels would not be very much but if it went off in the summer would not produce much power so much that it would not help us much !😊
We're talking about helper springs.
@@AnthonyJ350Lmfao
@@Jambi462 It looks like A.I. I don't know. I just go along with it.
I went to the roadmaster website for the leaf helper for a 2017 Nissan frontier, but they only sells for titan and Xterra, question will the Xterra fit on the Frontier?
I would call tech support to verify, I'm not sure on that one.
RAS or airbags? What's your take?
I would do both. The Roadmaster will act as a traction bar, sway bar and helper springs all in one. If you need extra help with the weight, you can add air to your system fine tuning it. I would install a system with an onboard compressor. th-cam.com/video/GhZPrIv-VVc/w-d-xo.html
Great video. But I do wish it was more apples to apples with the trucks.
What's not apples to apples? You had two GM trucks that were both half tons.
Interesting video, I know that when I added a extra leaf spring to my old 1500, it got about 2in taller but when I max loaded both my silverado and my stock f150 with dirt, the silverado was visibly much lower than the f150. Granted the silverado was a 6.5ft bed and the f150 a 5.5, so maybe there was a 100lb difference between the trucks.
I'm considering beefing up the f150 suspension, especially since im gonna need to replace the factory stocks in about a year or so.
You might want to look into these items, the truck will ride well unloaded
The test is not accurate. You have a wore out 05 vs. a new truck . You should have used two of the same or closer trucks.
Thanks, but I didn't.
Wtf was that in aid of I wanted to see that demo before and after with helper springs
Can you make your comment more concise? What do you want?
I read some of the comments when you stated be more concise appears Im not the only one who thinks this was a pointless exercise . I should be asking you wtf was the point of all that dicking about ?
I have timbren ses on my titan. Can I also add a helper leaf spring to it ?
Look into the Roadmaster Active Suspension for your leafs.
@@AnthonyJ350 thank you . I will
@@AnthonyJ350 thank you . I ordered it . It’s coming this week. I hope I can leave the timbrens and install roadmaster
@@trykuct Let us know how it goes
So finally got my set. I it works with timbrens . I did the thin shim setting . It raised the bacj of my titan 1” . I didn’t pull my rv trailer yet so hard to tell how much it improved
guy has a summy tape and still cant read it
Thanks for the feedback!
How does this prove anything using 2 different year trucks the leaf springs themselves could have been made differently throughout the years on top of that one truck could have thicker leaf spring and the older one could also be a hell of alot mor worn out this video justifies nothing on wether or not they really help
Ok don't modify your truck then. I'm sorry, these are the only vehicles I had available to me.
Can't believe that you couldn't find a closer year model. Should be the same or closer.
Thanks brother
Thanks for watching!
Could not watch the video. Low voice with intermittent speaker blowing loud crap music does NOT have any production value.
Thanks for the feedback!
I thought vid quality was alright honestly
@@dmsp3677 Some people have very high standards.
Need? No
Depends how you use your truck.
@@AnthonyJ350 Still no, if you bought the right truck.
@@MajTom-wd2yt Then why does Ram put airbags as an option on 3500's?
So you're saying the products shown today have no benefits?
@@AnthonyJ350 I'm no Ram expert, but if you do ALL your research, I think you'll find it's an air suspension option. What the dealer may offer is only done to grub more money from the customer.
Yes you know scat about load distribution.
Thanks for the feedback!
The load is in the bed... You plan to pile firewood on the cab and hood?
@@AM-hf9kk most of us who haul firewood get as much as we reasonably can in one trip. One layer ain't gonna cut it either. I routinely haul with a graveyard hump of oak rounds on my 2016 f150. It squats alot with the firewood and when I tow our 5k lb travel trailer. The timbrens would help alot in our situation.
Can you read a tape?
Nope