Piston fans need to understand that it’s not about who you want it’s about who wants to be here.. NO ONE WANTS TO BE HERE, no coach wants to coach here and no player wants to play here, fans should’ve gotten a clue when Trajan said that agents were telling their players not to work out for the Pistons and when an assistant coach removed his name from consideration. So I love the Bickerstaff hire because HE WANTS TO BE HERE, I love the Harris signing because HE WANTS TO BE HERE.. more than likely Your favorite free agent did not want to be here or your favorite coaching candidate did not want to be here, and we should have learned our lesson about throwing a bunch of money to someone that doesn’t want to be here
Excellent points. A team with good chemistry or even better chemistry than what we had…which now I assume we have…should equate to double the wins minimum. We shall see but complaining about these moves makes no sense to me. Most fans aren’t realistic about the stuff you’ve mentioned and in general. Definitely better than a year ago on all levels.
No, it was the owner Tom Gores who had created this mess in the first place by throwing out a lot of money to a guy who didn't want to be here but only took the job for the money while Ex-GM Troy Weaver wished to hire a different coach when he didn't have a chance to do so. But other than that, you're on point with many things you said.
Tobias, Tek and THJ are solid vet additions that will help spread the floor and bring leadership. And we still have a bunch of cap space to spend. Good off season so far!
I believe that this is a great pick up for the Pistons because Tobias will fit with the pieces that we already have especially if they play him at the four. He also provides great veteran experience that our young core desperately needs, he’s not over aggressive with the ball so that’ll give the young players an opportunity to utilize their skill sets. I love the pick up, Let’s Go Pistons…
- Tobias is a great stretch 3/4 these days - Need rim protection depth - Hopefully Holland’s thumb heals correctly. If not, implant a mini servo bionic thumb. We have the technology! - Hopefully Ausar is good to go - Go Pistons
I like the moves so far IF the new coach can do this right. Development matters more than wins right now and let's see what Cade can do with 3 shooters on the floor. A lineup with Cade, THJ, Fontecchio, Tobias and Duren/Stew gives Cade a lineup with at least 3 shooters on the floor, we'll be able to see Cades potential as that guy. (Btw, there's plenty of good pg's that have been successful without every player needing to be a shooter) I still think Cade shouldn't play pg,I think he impacts winning more when he starts off the ball on most possessions. Trajan seems to be doing what Weaver was, maybe a little better, but time will tell. J.B. will be better than Monty, but I'm still hesitant that he's the right coach. THJ and Tobias help with the shooting issue, but if that cuts too far into Ivey, Ausar and Holland's playing time, that's not good long term.
Good acquisitions and good hire. Watch what the pistons are doing, what doesn’t make sense now will down the road when we make the playoffs and become a contender. #SummerMoves
Was hoping for 1 year deals on guys like Harris to flip at the deadline. Hardaway is on his last year at least. Hopefully Harris can give us a decent year and a half to give the young guys a reliable player to develop with and then we get an asset for him the 2nd year at the deadline.
I like what Trajan has done so far. I hope he can absorb another "sin" contract for additional assets and hopefully address a backup PG (Tyus Jones) and a Rim Protecting Big (Goga Bitadze). Sign another shooter with the Mid Level, and let the young guys grow within a rotation, not throwing them in the deep end of the pool to sink or swim.
We didn’t get one good year out of Blake?!!! What the hell are you smoking???!!! Blake put up the best numbers he’s ever had when he was here. You’re foolin’ with that 😂
1) you’re laying it on a little thick with the Grimes adulation, he was Killianish; 2) THJr is a more adequate NBA player than Gary Harris, GH is the definition of not good enough. Although I’d rather have Not Good Enough Sr. (Tobias) starting at PF over Stew, I agree that we way overpaid for Tobias. Even if it is only 2 yrs, $26M per year is asinine.
The bulls are trying to get off of the lonzo and lavine contracts. We can take on lavine and a 1st round pick to bolster our depth/shooting/assets with our cap. Not sure what we give back but its the word around the league rn. Derozean wants out as well
@matheusnavesborges2720 I like both lol for us lonzo would be a back up pg or starting back court with cade. Preferably backing him up given that his playmaking is as good as it is
@scottwickett1273 We got to have faith. Maybe Cade will take his game to another level. Or maybe JD or JI will break out now they are in year 3. Tim and Tobias still have a bit left in the tank and can serve as good vets on the court to mentor the young guys. Maybe Malachi Flynn will drop a couple of 50 bombs this year. And we got 25 mil to add another vet to the team.
Harris, Fontecchio, and Duren are a good frontline. Holland/Thompson should be brought along (Holland more slowly) so as Harris begins to age; they can replace him in the starting lineup. I think the plan now is development, so I don't think Holland should be forced into the rotation.
Young prime Tobias was a poor mans Carmelo Anthony, I mean that as a compliment dude was good. All I want is for this team to do is grind out your young guys this year and as many ping-pong ball as possible for Copper Flagg. Then this team will be ready to rise. We need to take on more poop contracts for draft assets.
DANNY AINGE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT NOBODY ON THA' JAZZ (OR NONE OF THEIR KEY PLAYERS) WAS OFF LIMITS FOR TRADING! SIMONE F. CAME FROM THA' JAZZ, & DID GOOD HERE RIGHT AWAY! I HAVE BEEN IN MANY PODCAST COMMENT SECTIONS SAYING BEFORE THA' TRADE DEADLINE, THAT THA' PISTONS NEED TO TRADE FOR JORDAN CLARKSTON (A SOLID TWO-WAY GUARD WHO WAS RECENTLY THA' MOST IMPROVED PLAYER!), LAURI M. (WHO IZ THEIR STARTING C. WHO AVG. 23 PTS. PER GAME & 8 BOARDS THIS PAST SEASON! AND IZ ONE OF THA' BEST STRETCH 5s IN THA' LEAGUE! AND HE WOULD BE AN ALL-STAR I BELIEVE IN THA' EAST!), & TAYLOR HENDRICKS (WHO DIDN'T PLAY MUCH W/ THEM LAST YEAR CAUSE OF AN INJURY, BUT I THINK THAT IT WAS HIM NOT WANTING TO COME OFF THA' BENCH IN UTAH, BECAUSE HE WAS REPORTEDLY OUT FOR MONTHS FOR JUST A SPRAIN ANKLE!?)! FUQ CONSTANTLY STACKING DRAFT PICKS & PLAYING FOR THA' LOTTERY EVERY FUQQIN' YEAR!! THAT WAS ALRIGHT FOR 3-4 YEARS, BUT THAT WAS THEN & THIS IZ NOW! TYME TO BUILD FOR CHIPZ NOW (& NOT LAYS OR DORITOS EITHER!!)! #REALSPILL!
I think the Pistons are forced, at this time, to take on overpriced players like Tobias Harris. Harris makes us better. The Pistons must, at least, get better before other better free agents will even consider coming to Detroit. We are probably a laughing stock to the big free agents that won't even consider coming here. A year or two of improvement then we can start attracting other better players. I'm good with what we are doing. 👍
pistons are like that one guy who dates woman after they have been ran through as many men as possible that once she hits that wall than they wannna settle down
I don't agree with the Hardaway and Harris pickup. Their defense is questionable. Pistons need a true point guard with good decision making; brains. I agree, Cade needs to play off the ball...he gets stripped a lot and misses his shooters. He may not trust them in close games. They need a 6'10 or 6'11 power forward who can block, rebound, and shoot the 3 effectively. They are getting beat when playing against teams with a good 4 and 5 starting. Pistons could only find these 2 veteran guys to help them win? There are tougher players in the league.
Your comments are LAME. Good, Veteran shooters to surround Cade with, AND WE have good, Young, LONG Wings that PLAY DEFENSE. Like what Langdon has done thus far -
Think Stewart is traded now? I personally would like to re-sign Wiseman for backup center! What else is out there? Harris is the likely starting power forward and I believe Stewart is too expensive as a backup for Duren!
Piston fans need to understand that it’s not about who you want it’s about who wants to be here.. NO ONE WANTS TO BE HERE, no coach wants to coach here and no player wants to play here, fans should’ve gotten a clue when Trajan said that agents were telling their players not to work out for the Pistons and when an assistant coach removed his name from consideration. So I love the Bickerstaff hire because HE WANTS TO BE HERE, I love the Harris signing because HE WANTS TO BE HERE.. more than likely Your favorite free agent did not want to be here or your favorite coaching candidate did not want to be here, and we should have learned our lesson about throwing a bunch of money to someone that doesn’t want to be here
Excellent points. A team with good chemistry or even better chemistry than what we had…which now I assume we have…should equate to double the wins minimum. We shall see but complaining about these moves makes no sense to me. Most fans aren’t realistic about the stuff you’ve mentioned and in general. Definitely better than a year ago on all levels.
Preach
No, it was the owner Tom Gores who had created this mess in the first place by throwing out a lot of money to a guy who didn't want to be here but only took the job for the money while Ex-GM Troy Weaver wished to hire a different coach when he didn't have a chance to do so. But other than that, you're on point with many things you said.
@@Lionheart831 ummm I know it was Tom Gores, I never said that it wasn’t him 🤷🏿♂️.. peace ✌🏾
Facts!
Tobias, Tek and THJ are solid vet additions that will help spread the floor and bring leadership. And we still have a bunch of cap space to spend. Good off season so far!
Average starter makes 20 mil a year, so i dont mind the price for tobi at all, we are finally getting cade some legit help, good job trajan
I believe that this is a great pick up for the Pistons because Tobias will fit with the pieces that we already have especially if they play him at the four. He also provides great veteran experience that our young core desperately needs, he’s not over aggressive with the ball so that’ll give the young players an opportunity to utilize their skill sets. I love the pick up, Let’s Go Pistons…
Tobias never should have left. Blake had one good year but Tobias has been good for twenty points ever since.
Reportedly a few other teams offered contracts to him.
Great content coach! Im hoping for more moves to get a back up rim protecting center and at least 1 pure shooter
- Tobias is a great stretch 3/4 these days
- Need rim protection depth
- Hopefully Holland’s thumb heals correctly. If not, implant a mini servo bionic thumb. We have the technology!
- Hopefully Ausar is good to go
- Go Pistons
Second time around can be much better....... Tobias will be a great Veteran leader for the Pistons IMO.......
I like the moves so far IF the new coach can do this right. Development matters more than wins right now and let's see what Cade can do with 3 shooters on the floor. A lineup with Cade, THJ, Fontecchio, Tobias and Duren/Stew gives Cade a lineup with at least 3 shooters on the floor, we'll be able to see Cades potential as that guy. (Btw, there's plenty of good pg's that have been successful without every player needing to be a shooter) I still think Cade shouldn't play pg,I think he impacts winning more when he starts off the ball on most possessions.
Trajan seems to be doing what Weaver was, maybe a little better, but time will tell. J.B. will be better than Monty, but I'm still hesitant that he's the right coach. THJ and Tobias help with the shooting issue, but if that cuts too far into Ivey, Ausar and Holland's playing time, that's not good long term.
Need a A Defensive legit 7'0 ft + Center is exactly what's needed. Play JD at the 4. Go Big.
Duren could never be a 4, that's the dumbest thing anyone has ever typed.
Good acquisitions and good hire. Watch what the pistons are doing, what doesn’t make sense now will down the road when we make the playoffs and become a contender. #SummerMoves
Was hoping for 1 year deals on guys like Harris to flip at the deadline. Hardaway is on his last year at least. Hopefully Harris can give us a decent year and a half to give the young guys a reliable player to develop with and then we get an asset for him the 2nd year at the deadline.
I like what Trajan has done so far. I hope he can absorb another "sin" contract for additional assets and hopefully address a backup PG (Tyus Jones) and a Rim Protecting Big (Goga Bitadze). Sign another shooter with the Mid Level, and let the young guys grow within a rotation, not throwing them in the deep end of the pool to sink or swim.
We didn’t get one good year out of Blake?!!! What the hell are you smoking???!!! Blake put up the best numbers he’s ever had when he was here. You’re foolin’ with that 😂
I think he said we did get one 1 good year but stuttered
He misspoke.
1) you’re laying it on a little thick with the Grimes adulation, he was Killianish; 2) THJr is a more adequate NBA player than Gary Harris, GH is the definition of not good enough.
Although I’d rather have Not Good Enough Sr. (Tobias) starting at PF over Stew, I agree that we way overpaid for Tobias. Even if it is only 2 yrs, $26M per year is asinine.
The bulls are trying to get off of the lonzo and lavine contracts. We can take on lavine and a 1st round pick to bolster our depth/shooting/assets with our cap. Not sure what we give back but its the word around the league rn. Derozean wants out as well
I agreed. But I think now we can not absorve lavine with out given up stewart… so I think it would be better take lonzo and a 1st round pick,
@matheusnavesborges2720 I like both lol for us lonzo would be a back up pg or starting back court with cade. Preferably backing him up given that his playmaking is as good as it is
The Bulls would have to give up FOUR firsts to dump LaVine, and they're not gonna, so they're stuck with him.
@@King_Lou96 Lonzo is never going to play again.
Yes thanks for being honest this team weird and young guys need time to play rather see them
I believe Utah and Dallas had interest in Harris as well
Should have let one of them get him.
Youre acting like Tobi is 45. Hes 32. Calm
He's also not any good.
@@scottwickett1273 not any good compared to what?
If we can at least get 30 I'll be happy
That's not going to happen.
@scottwickett1273 We got to have faith. Maybe Cade will take his game to another level. Or maybe JD or JI will break out now they are in year 3. Tim and Tobias still have a bit left in the tank and can serve as good vets on the court to mentor the young guys. Maybe Malachi Flynn will drop a couple of 50 bombs this year. And we got 25 mil to add another vet to the team.
I’d worry about actually winning before leapfrogging to the top
As a Wolves fan, thank you for taking Wendell Moore. He is terrible. And will likely be cut soon.
Harris, Fontecchio, and Duren are a good frontline. Holland/Thompson should be brought along (Holland more slowly) so as Harris begins to age; they can replace him in the starting lineup. I think the plan now is development, so I don't think Holland should be forced into the rotation.
That's a terrible frontline that will be dead last in defense and lose 60+ games.
Young prime Tobias was a poor mans Carmelo Anthony, I mean that as a compliment dude was good.
All I want is for this team to do is grind out your young guys this year and as many ping-pong ball as possible for Copper Flagg. Then this team will be ready to rise.
We need to take on more poop contracts for draft assets.
DANNY AINGE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT NOBODY ON THA' JAZZ (OR NONE OF THEIR KEY PLAYERS) WAS OFF LIMITS FOR TRADING! SIMONE F. CAME FROM THA' JAZZ, & DID GOOD HERE RIGHT AWAY! I HAVE BEEN IN MANY PODCAST COMMENT SECTIONS SAYING BEFORE THA' TRADE DEADLINE, THAT THA' PISTONS NEED TO TRADE FOR JORDAN CLARKSTON (A SOLID TWO-WAY GUARD WHO WAS RECENTLY THA' MOST IMPROVED PLAYER!), LAURI M. (WHO IZ THEIR STARTING C. WHO AVG. 23 PTS. PER GAME & 8 BOARDS THIS PAST SEASON! AND IZ ONE OF THA' BEST STRETCH 5s IN THA' LEAGUE! AND HE WOULD BE AN ALL-STAR I BELIEVE IN THA' EAST!), & TAYLOR HENDRICKS (WHO DIDN'T PLAY MUCH W/ THEM LAST YEAR CAUSE OF AN INJURY, BUT I THINK THAT IT WAS HIM NOT WANTING TO COME OFF THA' BENCH IN UTAH, BECAUSE HE WAS REPORTEDLY OUT FOR MONTHS FOR JUST A SPRAIN ANKLE!?)! FUQ CONSTANTLY STACKING DRAFT PICKS & PLAYING FOR THA' LOTTERY EVERY FUQQIN' YEAR!! THAT WAS ALRIGHT FOR 3-4 YEARS, BUT THAT WAS THEN & THIS IZ NOW! TYME TO BUILD FOR CHIPZ NOW (& NOT LAYS OR DORITOS EITHER!!)! #REALSPILL!
I think the Pistons are forced, at this time, to take on overpriced players like Tobias Harris. Harris makes us better. The Pistons must, at least, get better before other better free agents will even consider coming to Detroit. We are probably a laughing stock to the big free agents that won't even consider coming here. A year or two of improvement then we can start attracting other better players. I'm good with what we are doing. 👍
Nobody forced them to make this mistake.
I think their current situation forced them into doing a deal like this. I am ok with this signing.
pistons are like that one guy who dates woman after they have been ran through as many men as possible that once she hits that wall than they wannna settle down
Wait, wut?
Lol we got Alec burks/Bojan but in Prada this time smh
I don't agree with the Hardaway and Harris pickup. Their defense is questionable. Pistons need a true point guard with good decision making; brains. I agree, Cade needs to play off the ball...he gets stripped a lot and misses his shooters. He may not trust them in close games. They need a 6'10 or 6'11 power forward who can block, rebound, and shoot the 3 effectively. They are getting beat when playing against teams with a good 4 and 5 starting. Pistons could only find these 2 veteran guys to help them win? There are tougher players in the league.
Your comments are LAME. Good, Veteran shooters to surround Cade with, AND WE have good, Young, LONG Wings that PLAY DEFENSE. Like what Langdon has done thus far -
I didn’t like grimes
How was Marshall ever gonna make our team Better?we need proven guys.Marshall not gonna do anything on his next team
Wait, NAJI Marshall? He's better than Tobi.
Need to get mo Bamba Caleb Martin pat bev
Grimes can't play because he is always injured
Last year he played in 71 games. Tibs played him 48 minutes in the playoffs. Shot 38% from three on high volume!
Quentin grimes is not that good
Dave it is coming together!!!
Im not a fan of of Grimes trade. Other than that im good with the moves.
I liked that trade but hated the Tobi hire. Takes all kinds.
Why pay that much for Tobias. Sigh
It's only 2 years and I'm pretty sure there's a minimum salary the pistons hadn't reached yet
KCP got almost as much and is way less value imo
26 million a year homie that’s not bad at all Tom Gores is Billionaire he can afford to sign him
@@AndrewSavedbyJesus Harris isn’t No KCP homie
Team friendly contract given his numbers
Giving up Grimes was a bad move.
Think Stewart is traded now? I personally would like to re-sign Wiseman for backup center! What else is out there? Harris is the likely starting power forward and I believe Stewart is too expensive as a backup for Duren!
Wiseman sucks fucking shit. And Stew should start over Duren because Duren sucks too, just not as much as Wiseman sucks.
Trade
Ivey
Stewart
Lavine
2 first
1 second
Who would do that
did he rlly say that lol
Nobody would do that: the trade is Hardaway for FOUR firsts and LaVine, or else the Bulls can fuck all the way off.