57. Touring Camper Van Build- Rear Air Conditioner Install
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Minute 11:00 he starts working on it. You'll thank me later
You deserve a upvote for all the work you did - I could tell you were exhausted.
Thank you! Tough work but it was worth it.
Nice job, it looks really good there. That turned out much better than I was thinking it would. I am going with the window install in my Dodge van because I want it up higher so the cold air distributes better as it drops toward the floor and, I have a bunch of stuff back there (garage) which will block the air flow if I did it the way you did. Your van looks great. Safe travels.
Thanks for watching. Yeah it was a scary install. But it has been working great ever since. I use my MaxAir fan to move the air around and it seems to work good. Good luck on your install!
hi I live in Tennessee I've had mine in the floor for two weeks nearly now and it's been good but not great moving mine to the front passenger seat as I hardly use it lol I made a window screen so I can have the window open some and I just rerouted the exhaust heat and hang a thick curtain or blanket around the front seat and door. I keep a fan in between the seats so it should be colder now.
That's different. It works and you still have windows to see out.
Hot air rises so an AC at floor level will keep the air at floor level cool. You would have been better off installing it in the window because it is higher up where the hot air is.
The unit will blow air upward. Also my exhaust fan also blows air down so it hasn’t been a problem.
A roof fan is similar to a whole house fan so an outtake would be ideal but cooling-wise it's okay because it is such a small, insulated space.
It will be fine it’s only a small van to cool down
My dad put his ac in the rear door window. Done w wood frame. It was ghetto, but we were cool.
I going for non ghetto, you need a mini split made for vehicles
Great work
Thank you.
Good👍
well this is the second biggest installation challenge bc i remember when you installed the fan on the ceiling lol...the ac looks great.!!
Chevy Van Travel yeah cutting into the van roof was definitely scary. I think what scared me more about this was there were no videos online of anyone else doing this. But it worked out and is still holding strong.
No read AC manual should be at very slight angle to drain this will cause condensation and interior sweating
Wanita, you are correct in stating the ac should be at a slight angle. The manual also states "Droplets of water hitting condenser
during normal operation may cause “pinging or swishing” sounds." Fortunately I have not had any water issues with the AC.
some newer models retain water for cooling and don't have a drain
@@IanSkelley Down here in Fl my little 6050 btu window unit A/C unit being used in a bedroom, but not installed, just sitting on a table pointed out the window with a fan sucking the heat from the A/C outside (Deed restrictions) This darn thing since it's soo humid here in FL produces nearly a 5 gallon bucket of water a night!! No joke!! 5 gallons!
Nothing like the loud stealthy sound of your A/C unit.
Rick, you would be surprised how quiet it is outside- almost can’t hear it.
Another great job! Look forward to future videos on the van build.
I went for window. Painted vehicle color with metal frame. Ghetto ish but super easy to remove for the 10 months out of the year I won’t use it.
Ian good to see ya, great looking instal. A/C very much needed in the south.
Whit
Looks pretty and it works!
Planning my van build AC...with an extended length van...build an insulated back wall to seal and separate the living area from the "garage". Maybe make the garage wall 15-18" from the back door. Put a window AC unit in the wall sitting on a shelf on the garage side. Ventilate the garage to remove the heat generated by the AC unit by installing a Fantastic fan in the garage roof, plus a vent hole in the floor or side wall of the garage. The air flow between the vent hole and the fan should be adequate for the AC unit to work properly. The AC unit would be fully contained in the garage, so no need to cut large holes in the van, but you still need a vent hole and fan hole. The garage would be a good place to store extra water, tools, hiking gear, a small generator and gas can, your battery bank...anything you don't want in your living space.
David, interesting idea. Just make sure you provide for any water dripping from the AC into your garage.
I've heard that modern window AC units somehow don't drip...they must have an internal drip pan and I'm guessing the moving air through the unit creates a situation to evaporate any moisture. (?) If it becomes a problem, the AC unit could sit in a tray on the garage shelf, or if the AC unit has a tube where condensation drips from...a length of plastic tubing could be fitted either from the unit or the tray it sits in and directed into an empty container (1 gallon milk jug?) fastened in the garage somewhere...then the container could be emptied as needed.
Good plan.....yeah, as humid as it is here in Florida my AC has not dripped any water at all...amazing. It is so quiet on the outside as well.
Good to hear about the lack of condensation dripping. Speaking of quiet...has it been quiet enough inside for you to sleep? I'm afraid the compressor in the AC unit will transmit vibration and possibly some noise into the van. There are anti-vibration mats you can buy...I've thought about having one under the AC unit on the shelf if it becomes a problem. Another thought would be to mount the AC unit on a spring loaded platform that would absorb vibration and cushion any trauma to the unit from the bumps and crashes of on the road travel. I've contacted manufacturers of some AC units and discussed mounting their products in a van. Since the units are designed for a non-moving residential window, any damage to the unit that results from being bounced around in a moving vehicle, would invalidate the warranty. Apparently, the weak link in these units are any joints in the internal tubing that carries the freon.
David, I tried to mitigate any extra interior noise. I packed the door with extruded foam. However, there is no getting around the fan noise inside the van. When I had the AC on Eco mode (the ac fan and compressor turns off an on when needed) it did wake me up. I turned it to always on and was able to sleep comfortably through the night.
I would go back and remove the molding and a/c and paint the cut bare metal edges of the door. Also, mounted so low you will need a fan to circulate the cold air on the floor to the higher levels. Best of Luck!
HOLD THE MAYO!!!!
Mad scientist inventor! You're awesome 😎
Thank you! :)
My plan when I build my van is to install a window unit directly in the wall but not sticking out at all..I will do like they do on many of the new, smaller travel trailers such as the T@B and Coachmen smaller models..They mount up in an upper cabinet and the outside just has a metal grill..the water from condensation either is flung back into the condenser by the fan blades or it can go out a small drain hose...It is an ideal way to have a stealth A/C unit! Another option for a van stealth A/C unit is to install an RV A/C unit on the roof but put a Thule or Sear's X-Cargo type cargo box around the AC unit..then have vents to let the heated air vent out! Lastly, a have seen a very smart young guy hide his generator on the rear door like this but with a spare tire cover over it!! The spare tire cover hides the generator..Now I would say this could even be done for the A/C unit too! Just my 2 cents..well maybe a few dollars worth! haha
Chris Reed good ideas.
I diddnt know that type of machine was waterproof ! ... gives me an idea
Amazing one man doing everything!
The door install looks so much nicer than through the window up top, but I’d worry about someone bumping into the ac with their car since the ac hangs out past the bumper. Maybe a hi lift jack would fill that space. The window install avoids that problem since it’s high enough to clear most hoods, but looks pretty ghetto.
Kevin, thanks for watching. It is high enough that most cars wouldn't be able to hit it. I also have the truck hitch on back to help protect it.
Thanks for the response. love your videos.
Jeff, glad you like them!
That will need some angled bracing for the back end. One good pot hole and that can break free.
Fulani C I have braced it on the bottom and on the top so it’s not going anywhere. I have hit some pretty substantial potholes already and it hasn’t moved. I will keep an eye on it though.
I framed a unit into the back of my travel trailer with 2x4s. He could do this hiding the wood frame between the inner and outer wall. I like using wood on cars its classy.
An ac in the window just looks ghetto 🤣 classic man
You are bold and successful
Thank you!
Inventive, interesting, idea, Ian. Delightful detail and documentation. Thank you, and keep up the good work :)
BoxVan Go Thank you.
Great job! I'm not quite sure why more people don't use residential window AC units in camper vans. They are so much quieter and easier to replace than the roof AC units. Do we really need a 13,000 BTU unit for a class B RV? There is a travel trailer called "Lil Snoozy" where they actually build the mold of the fiberglass camper around a residential window AC. Brilliant!
Nitram Midnite I think it’s because Roof A/C is more logical to install , since cold air is heavy cold air’s direction goes down if the A/C is placed already down I guess its more likely that your feet will enjoy most of the cold than your body.
Good point. I've heard it might also be due to the fact that you want to avoid road dust and debris from clogging the AC cooling vents. Less dust encountered the higher its mounted. Plus who actually thinks any AC unit looks attractive on any camper or RV, out of sight, out of mind.
Cool job, you're talented tinkerer. I find it interesting tho that such serious changes to the car are allowed in the US. Here in Germany there is a governmental authority that checks all vehicles every two years. Every owner has to prove whether it’s safe to drive. Cutting such a big hole into the rear door and installing an ac unit… oof, they would just laugh at you and take your registration, since it’s a big change to the physics of the car.
Thank you for your feedback and for watching.
@@IanSkelley hi, would this modification cause failure of bi annual vehicle state inspection?
@@DonnieDarko1 Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that. We don’t have a state inspection in Florida.
Definitely should have went with a portable air conditioner
Portable air conditioners are vastly inefficient. I’ve had one. Most of them work by blowing the hot air out of the room. When this happens, air has to be sucked into the room from somewhere and that air is from outside.
You are a genius.
Thank you for the kind words.
I'm wrestling with the same decision right now between roof top and back door installation. I also live in Florida (Cocoa Beach), so the AC is at the top of my list. I'm still wondering what your pros and cons were between the two. You never mentioned them.
Roger, here is my list. Hope this helps.
********Roof AC ********
Pros
Fits in 14in roof hole
Cons
Expensive
Heavy Top Weight
AC blows right next to our head
Has to be wired into the system
Ceiling assembly lowers clearance 2"
Takes up space on the roof
9,000 btu Maybe over powered
********Window AC********
Pros
Cheaper
Lighter
Cons
Have to cut hole in door
If needs to be replaced, the next ac might be a different size
AC blows near the floor
Plugs into regular outlet
Easier to power with a generator
@@IanSkelley
Pretty much the same issues I'm dealing with. Though I do have an 8000 BTU portable unit that only requires 1 vent, that I use for power outages during hurricanes. It runs quietly and efficiently, and cools down the immediate area I'm in. I know it would great in my van. But then there's the space issue. Oh well, I'll figure it out. Thanks for the feedback.
Rooftop PROPANE POWER for the win!
Great job. For simplicity the window would have been much easier. Where located will push the cold to the top. You got guts for sure. Plus your very personable in your presentations. :-)
Thanks 👍
I watched the entire video....how is the unit anchored to the van? What keeps the AC from flopping around while driving? Looks like it is just sitting on the angle iron and the only thing holding it in is its own weight and friction from the foam/gasket.
Ryan Fornkohl Thanks for watching. Yes the angle iron frames it in and it is screwed to the angle iron. It has been holding up nicely. No slipping or bouncing around even though I’ve been over some rough roads.
@@IanSkelley Thanks for the video, I also have an Econoline, so this was very helpful.
Why not go with a mini split ac? So much quieter
I looked at them but decided against it because of the challenge of where to put the outside unit. Also the cost.
The best is restaurant drive thru ease:)
The simple pleasures!
😂😉
You have guts.
Put a second speaker above the ac unit
Hello, not sure what you mean. There is already one speaker each in the back doors.
Mayo - Pensacola, FL
My big concern is ,the vibrations don't damage the compressor eny leak , because I'll like to do the same thing on my semi truck , and what about the dust or water filtering in side the unit , eny idea permanent cover with side ventilation?
Harold Pavon I have not had any issues as of yet. Not sure about the permanent cover with side ventilation.
It’s hard to believe between taking out the window and cutting the door. You chose to destroy the door. In my opinion the window is better if you wanna change you just put the window back. This way you need a whole new door.
Not that it doesn’t look good . How has it held up
Yeah, it was a hard decision, but I am glad I did the door. It looks great and it is holding up great. No issues. I have since installed 300w solar, 2- 100ah Battleborn batteris and 3k watt inverter. I can run my AC unit off the batteries for around an hour.
@@IanSkelley always good to hear something held up. A lot of times on TH-cam people do stuff for views and it doesn’t work out for long. I’m getting ready to put one in my 2008 Chevy express rear window. I found a plastic box like pelican box. I’m going to mount that on the outside so when we’re not using the AC we can close the box. Thanks for the reply have a good one
@@richardhenry1969 that’s a good idea about the pelican box.
how are you powering that AC unit? Thats a lot for batteries! I have a mini 700w weedeater motor powered generator I was thinking of using on mine... noisy and smoky though...
I can power the AC by either being on shore power or using my generator.
From where you take power please
The AC can be powered by solar batteries or by shore power.
why not get a smaller 5000 btu unit?
I had a 5k unit in my minivan camper and it could not keep up with the florida heat. The 8k seems much better to handle it.
Looks good.
How is it powered?
Shore power. See th-cam.com/video/bv2ubphbmvE/w-d-xo.html
Not sure but in the EU I think it is not allowed that something sticks out of your vehicle from the back like that, nice build anyway, respect!
Thank you for watching.
Thats because the EU SUCKS! You guys have the dumbest rules. They just make rules there for the sake of making rules I think. You cant do anything there that is slightly not normal.
@@misterbulger Sorta dude. Imagine hitting a bump and this thing bouncing down the highway.
Does the tool box still close properly in the rear with the A/C unit there??
Justin, yes it does.
Any updates?
If you are talking about the rear ac, it is still working great. I have not had to do anything else since the install. Thanks for watching.
What size AC is that? It looks pretty big. NomaticFanatic use to have a black van that had the AC installed in the door like that but I don't think his was as big as yours.
Mechanic Steve it is an 8000btu unit. It is listed in the description.
Very nicely done. Unfortunately i have to do it the "ghetto" way lolz
:) Thanks for watching Nomadic!
@@IanSkelley thanks for putting out good videos
wish you lived in nc cant find anyone to hire to do ac install for my van.- quick question do you need the as unit to be at an angle with backend pointing down some?
Jeff, I installed it as level as possible. Just the weight of it will pull it down slightly after the install. I have had no issues.
just wanna ask if the AC system of the van is not working? and you installed a window type AC, another question is dis you use a power inverter? watts?
Regie delos Reyes the vans rear ac does work. I installed the window ac for when we are not running the vans engine. I installed 30amp shore power and 2 agm batteries with a 2000 watt inverter as well.
@@IanSkelley so its dual power supply, try to use solar just in case theres no supply of power from shore and not consuming fuel from the van...
nice air conditioning... btw i changed my name from taraz pariseau to Lady-T because its easier to remember and pronounce and i have started my own you tube channel.... if i can figure out how to edit videos i will be having alot of content lol
Thank you. You can learn...just start small.
Are you still using this. How’s it working? Looking at the rear window for mine
It is still working awesome. We just went camping this weekend and used it. Thanks for watching.
Great job!
I may have missed it on your list but what brand and size is that a/c unit? I’m contemplating doing the same to my van.
Thanks and great job!
Thanks for watching. It is a FRIGIDAIRE 8K BTU Model FFRE0833U1.
@@IanSkelley hi just curious did you have any issues with shock or the weight on the door over the years? thanks!
@@918HUMAN Hello, thanks for watching. I have not had any issues with it. Thank God. It has been great and the AC unit has worked very good. Hopefully no issues with it for many more years. I am glad I did it. I now have a 3k watt inverter with 2 100ah battle born batteries and I can run the AC for hours.
My tweeker brother keeps accusing me of stealing parts from his high dollar window unit with heating and cooling and replacing his working parts with non working parts from my rv roof unit can this even be done? Or could a neighbor stole the said parts and replaced them with similar parts from another similar window unit I am sick of arguing iv googled my question and can’t seem to find answers can a real person please help thank you.....
That is a good question. I don't know.
Where have y’all been? My husband and I really like to watch your videos:)
Are Y’all still traveling in your van, and it’s for full or part time?
I live in Pensacola,FL too and are trying to convert my Chevy express cargo van. But I don’t know if I want to put a high roof on it ( cost a lot of money,travel expenses and time to go to California to get it done or just keep what it is. Please I really want to know what do you think about living in a short roof van for quite some times. I’m looking forward to hearing from you soon thanks.
May Jarrell thanks for watching and for your message. We are still here but have been busy with other things. We are only traveling part time currently. If your van is going to be an everyday driver, I would recommend a short roof van. If you have the money, a pop top would be nice.
Thanks for quick response. Do y’all live in Pensacola still and do the missionary work? My husband and I don’t do the Facebook because too much noise. We would like to be y’all’s friends:)
@@MSJ12333 yes, we are still in Pcola and do missions work. I also work at WHBR TV. Feel free to stop by anytime.
I was gonna say a pop top too nice to able to put it down dont you think
For resale purposes, it would have been better just to pull the window out and save it when you were ready to trade or sell the van. Now you've ruined a door and compromised the strength of the door.
Axl, thank you for watching and your feedback. There are always pros and cons to everything. ;)
How is the electric working? Do plug it in?
The AC runs when I am plugged into shore power or generator.
@@IanSkelley Thanks
that AC looks bigger than you need, is it 5K BTU?
welcome to reality 8k which is overkill and why he had so many issues trying to fit it, I installed a 5k and it fit great!! Can see install on my IG monstervanstx
It is a 8k. I had a 5k in a camper mini van and it was not strong enough for the Florida heat. The 8k works well in this bigger van.
@@IanSkelley im a snowbird in FL winters.... i spent 3 years year round...ill never do that again lol
well i have my AC in the back window of my van and it doesnt look getto at all so maybe you could have left that statement out and just say to each their own
victoria wolf I agree. My apologies.
@@IanSkelley yeah that ghetto comment was a bit much. But Im learning from your video. Thank you
Christi, point taken. I probably should have used a different word. I meant no disrespect to anyone.
All AC units in the rear windows of cars and campers look Ghetto.
If the word ghetto offends you I guess I should apologize. I should have said it looks “HILLBILLY”! 👨🌾
@@gearjammer4779 Now IM offended! Just kidding when I do a build like this I go out of my way to make it look as ghetto/hillbilly as possible! I actually have a car that I am making a point to do as many "ghetto rigged" repairs as I can. So far: Screwdriver and hockey puck motor mounts. You have to pull a string for the turn signals. all 4 tires are solid fix a flat over 2-inch ebay spacers. I cut a jagged hole in the fender to make the water pump and crank bolts easier to access and patched it with a coke can. Chicken wire grill. No reverse lights... Passenger has to touch two bare wires together to turn them on,. If you want to turn the fuel on you have to hit the defroster button. You can also start it while its in gear. And it runs on propane BBQ tanks and that entire setup is a rig in itself. Boost piping is made from hot tub heater hoses. Hood scoop is an upside down paint roller pan. Interior is lined with about 100,000 stickers. Metal springs sticking out of the seat but re-upholstered in duct tape. Steering while is covered with hockey tape. Skull spray painted on the hood. Side piped exhaust. Window tint is peeling/bubbling. You have to adjust the idle speed if you want headlights or the fan on. Dont be ashamed of rigging stuff up. I intend on winning an award at a JDM meet one day for the trashiest but fastest car. I just got a clapped out van so trying for something similar here. When my girlfriends AC broke in her Hyundai I joked I would put a window unit in the side window and put a generator on the roof rack and then her dog could chill in there while she was working.
Are running solar?
Not at this time. My alternator charges by batteries fine at this point. Not doing any long term boondocking yet.
@@IanSkelley thank you I do enjoy the few videos of yours I have seen so far have fun stay safe and possitive vibes
Jigsaw LOL
just get an portable AC unit man then its just an tube then you can cut an small hole thow the floor
Colin Stienke portable ac units are inefficient due to the way they operate. You can google it. I have had them before.
@@IanSkelley no huge hole tho the door
... and you think that doesnt look ghetto? Wait till a little kid sits on it.
You better brace it on the outside.
What size is your ac
8000 BTU
BC a window install would be ghetto 1:11 but through the door and painted with black spraypaint or plasti dip isn't. lol. SMH.
I know. Right. HA!
Good install, but still kinds looks ghetto. Sorry, only my opinion.
No worries. Thanks for your kind opinion.
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Brother i hate to tell ya... That's not the way air conditioners work none of them.
Paul what do you mean?
@@IanSkelley all residential ac units are compressor.... Direct expansion units.... Where as water chillers are used in commerical and industrial environments. The one you have is supposed to lean back to a small degree so the water drains out. Its not supposed to make the splashing noise. If there's no lean then you may have a drain underneath the unit ... Basically just a hole... And if not... You can drill a small hole.
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@@IanSkelley I stand corrected, maybe I've only had older units? Not sure when this feature came out in window units but i have never owned one. From what I gather and read, the slinger units can be a nuisance.... Spitting water, noise, cleaning. I think if i were to own another....I personally would try to avoid one where a unit has this feature.... If possible. It just sounds like a really bad design to me, from many perspectives, convenience being the first.
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Do you still have your van?
Yes. Just went camping in it this last weekend. Love it!