One of the best conversations regarding this approach I’ve seen. I’m glad you dove more into the games as opposed to just explaining the general concepts about the approach (like you have to do when you appear on a new podcast)
Solid conversation. Would love to see more of these. It's very interesting and relatable to hear how the progression from prescriptive teaching to eco has gone for both of you. How practice has evolved. I'm stealing the variability by switching partners, grouping by weight, and skill. That's a good idea worth exploring. I also love that Kabir challenged Greg a bit on the stand up for beginners - we do the same thing at the beginning of every class. I've seen too many injuries from people who had no clue what they were doing in the stand up portion in the past, so we work it a lot to get people comfortable and knowledgeable there. The bit about the first engagement of the day being off is also something that I've found as well! Makes me think a good round of rolling before a competition match could have value. Thanks for doing this. Very interested in more.
This is great! I'm just getting started in both eco and coaching, and this is by far one of the best discussions I've seen about those topics. Seriously cannot thank the two of you enough for this.
Excellent. Lots of content to learn from and perspectives to try and understand. Loved the conversation about variability differences. That was especially helpful. Also the idea of a Les traumatic way to introduce standing engagement to a fundamental class Thank you, both. Loved it.
Very cool. Helpful for other coaches to see how you guys think, your process etc. Rather than wait for podcast appearances, would love to see more of these conversations 💪🏻
Kabir that game around getting into guard and denying top player from getting knees down or disconnecting is genius. I had a slightly different approach to this but I think yours is better.
Chapters would be awesome, especially to help find specific ideas to review. Should make it easier to cut out shorts later if you do that. Also, some links in the description for materials mentioned like the talk Greg mentioned from Ian Renshaw would be awesome. Ill obviously try to google it on my own but a short cut to knowledge is nice.
This and game analysis are killer. I liked the idea of the tennis ball at first to prevent grabbing in an exercise. But if they are able to simply follow that rule, then no need for the tennis ball. And then if you use it, it becomes like a dunce cap. Get that beginner course out! Or your 20 best games. That starting place with live demonstration in action would help get momentum. If they only do those games...BJJ as a whole is better. If they only manage to do situational sparring...dead drilling dies and BJJ as a whole is better.
"Course to get started"--been listening to Greg all over the place---white belt started bjj in April and am eager to understand and implement this in my journey but I am not a coach...It is interesting as Josh Waitzkin "Art of Learning" has been on radar all of a sudden and it seems there is some philosophical convergence . How do I implement eco solo?
Open mat is your best bet, or giving yourself specific task constraints for sparring. One challenge is open sparring can totally omit certain exchanges, so you'll want to have a few different intentions for a round so you can get the most out of it.
I actually like the use of equipment constraints lol. But not the differential stuff I've seen around. It has to be for something very clearly understood, or for a very specific sort of intervention that should not be a common occurrence in training. Ultimately I am team CLA. Differential learning is interesting but not a top concern to me, especially since you can do good differential training while violating key principles of the constraints-led approach. This is a hard no go for me.
attunement is more about knowing where to find information. Calibration is about exploiting that information best. I don't think 24 hours is going to screw up your attunement, but it will play with your accuracy in capitalizing on that information. @@KabirBath
Low key Greg wandering around his room deciding what lighting to go with at 15 fps while talking about this will be Jiu-Jitsu lore in 5 years
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One of the best conversations regarding this approach I’ve seen. I’m glad you dove more into the games as opposed to just explaining the general concepts about the approach (like you have to do when you appear on a new podcast)
That was one of my main goals, just a convo for coaches who are playing with this type of stuff actively!
Thanks for watching!
You balance out Greg beautifully Kaboom. Bravo 👏
thanks for checking it out homie!!
Discussing complex ideas with people who’ve done the work to understand what they’re talking about usually keeps me calm
Solid conversation. Would love to see more of these.
It's very interesting and relatable to hear how the progression from prescriptive teaching to eco has gone for both of you. How practice has evolved.
I'm stealing the variability by switching partners, grouping by weight, and skill. That's a good idea worth exploring.
I also love that Kabir challenged Greg a bit on the stand up for beginners - we do the same thing at the beginning of every class. I've seen too many injuries from people who had no clue what they were doing in the stand up portion in the past, so we work it a lot to get people comfortable and knowledgeable there.
The bit about the first engagement of the day being off is also something that I've found as well! Makes me think a good round of rolling before a competition match could have value.
Thanks for doing this. Very interested in more.
Glad you liked the convo!!
This is great! I'm just getting started in both eco and coaching, and this is by far one of the best discussions I've seen about those topics.
Seriously cannot thank the two of you enough for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
More conversations like this please.
Glad you enjoyed it! More on the way :)
Excellent. Lots of content to learn from and perspectives to try and understand. Loved the conversation about variability differences. That was especially helpful. Also the idea of a Les traumatic way to introduce standing engagement to a fundamental class
Thank you, both. Loved it.
Thanks for checking it out, glad you liked it!
Very cool. Helpful for other coaches to see how you guys think, your process etc. Rather than wait for podcast appearances, would love to see more of these conversations 💪🏻
Appreciate it! That's my exact goal with this series - a conversation for coaches with coaches.
External podcasts are needed to get this in front of the masses but this is the key for broader adoption with coaches that are interested.
Kabir that game around getting into guard and denying top player from getting knees down or disconnecting is genius. I had a slightly different approach to this but I think yours is better.
I like it because it's a very simple way to make a player learn how to control someone by focusing on stance alone.
Dear greg, just put the camera facing away from the lights next time 😂.
Great conversation!
Thanks for watching!
that was a good conversation, thank you for posting it
Thanks for checking it out!
This was dope. Would love to hear more of your conversations
Thanks forchecking it out!!
Nice convo. I really enjoyed it!
Thanks Joshua!
Absolutely amazing contact so much to learn from Greg and yourself 👏👏👏
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❤ this is awesome 😮
Glad you liked it!
In 2 or 3 years, I hope it's common for coaches to have conversations on this level.
Same!
Chapters would be awesome, especially to help find specific ideas to review. Should make it easier to cut out shorts later if you do that.
Also, some links in the description for materials mentioned like the talk Greg mentioned from Ian Renshaw would be awesome. Ill obviously try to google it on my own but a short cut to knowledge is nice.
Appreciate these tips! I'll try to work this type of stuff in!
This and game analysis are killer. I liked the idea of the tennis ball at first to prevent grabbing in an exercise. But if they are able to simply follow that rule, then no need for the tennis ball. And then if you use it, it becomes like a dunce cap.
Get that beginner course out! Or your 20 best games. That starting place with live demonstration in action would help get momentum. If they only do those games...BJJ as a whole is better. If they only manage to do situational sparring...dead drilling dies and BJJ as a whole is better.
Great content
Thanks for watching!
"Course to get started"--been listening to Greg all over the place---white belt started bjj in April and am eager to understand and implement this in my journey but I am not a coach...It is interesting as Josh Waitzkin "Art of Learning" has been on radar all of a sudden and it seems there is some philosophical convergence . How do I implement eco solo?
Open mat is your best bet, or giving yourself specific task constraints for sparring. One challenge is open sparring can totally omit certain exchanges, so you'll want to have a few different intentions for a round so you can get the most out of it.
Great stuff guys!
Thanks for checking it out!
Styles focus. Is like focusing intentions and attention on a lense to solving a problem
I love that way of thinking of it! Thanks for sharing that with me!
Would be cool to hear more about how he sees the game
Noted, thanks for watching!
Good conversation 👌
Thanks for watching!
I actually like the use of equipment constraints lol. But not the differential stuff I've seen around. It has to be for something very clearly understood, or for a very specific sort of intervention that should not be a common occurrence in training.
Ultimately I am team CLA. Differential learning is interesting but not a top concern to me, especially since you can do good differential training while violating key principles of the constraints-led approach. This is a hard no go for me.
Same, DL is not my highest priority, although I still seek to understand how I could implement best.
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I think the first round phenomenon is calibration more so than re-attunement. Maybe that's splitting hairs lol.
Can you expand?
attunement is more about knowing where to find information. Calibration is about exploiting that information best. I don't think 24 hours is going to screw up your attunement, but it will play with your accuracy in capitalizing on that information. @@KabirBath
I think some time Greg just plays with language
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