I’m Tongan. The problem with money going to Tonga is it doesn’t go towards what it was meant for. Instead people in power enrich themselves. Happens across every code and every sport and still happens in 2024! If the guys back in Tonga were in full control of the money. The guys who are selling out these stadiums won’t see a cent lol I know this happens in Samoa too bro.
You tengas going against what he’s saying, and claiming “it isn’t about money” aren’t following what’s being said. His point is sooo much money is being made off of all the supporters, yet none of it is going towards the people in the islands who had started the team in the first place, which is preventing bigger and better opportunities for the up and coming athletes in Tonga. You usis going against this video are going against what Tongans in Tonga should rightfully have.
Wtf are you even talking about?? What tongan from tonga started this? This was started from Tongans from Australia and new Zealand, the team broke away from "tongan rugby league" because they're fkn CORRUPT!!!
😂😂😂 you're an idiot lol what tongan BORN in tonga started this?!!! This was started by players from Australia and new Zealand, and they broke away from "tongan rugby league" because they're CORRUPT!!! THIS MOVEMENT WAS ABOUT PAYING RESPECT TO THE PLAYERS PARENTS AND HERITAGE NOT ABOUT GIVING MONEY TO IDIOTS FROM THE ISLANDS WHOTHINK THEY DESERVE IT lol
Would love for the Tongan rugby league in Tonga to get money and power but i feel like someone will def miss manage it and pick their family members as staff 😅
Us in tonga need nothing if anything the players sacrificed their careers they should get something out of it because they are definitely not getting payed by Tonga they are like working for free thats the passion these guys have and we are thankful
@JWorry676 atleast we don't have a fake ass diaspora team like you guys. And we gone have a national team in the NRL by 2027 so uh, keep talking down us.
@@Laundry_Bloc16 diaspora is PNG team middle name more player play Super League than NRL, please learn your own team background before jumping online and even if you have NRL team in 2027 99% of team going to be from overseas countries😳😳😳🤫🤫🤫
The announcement comes after players at the World Cup Nines received equal match payments, regardless of gender or nation. The changes aim to rectify the pay disparity that was seen throughout the 2017 RLWC, where Australia's men's team received a fee of $50,000, compared to Tongan players, who were given just $500
Why don't you ask Woolf, Scott Clark and the International Rugby League and what they did with the monies that the IRL made from the Tonga games in the 2017 and 2022 Rugby League World Cups????? Hint: - Tonga never received a cent!
@@thefobbie0034 again what does it matter? someone is gonna make the dang money.. and whoever gonna profit from it will not be the tongan rugby league federation? what freakin for if ya don't even play the games in tonga?
Absolutely valid points of discussion. Long gone the time palagi use islanders to become rich. Look back in time when slave trade started in Europe decades ago. I'm glad no palagi tells us what to do. SAMOA MO SAMOA.
what ya talking about? without the palagi samoa cant do shiiii. in fact its the white man money why manu samoa can even tour europe or dont you know they now broke.. cause the white man money has ran out
Deuteronomy 28:48-51 [48]Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. [49]The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; [50]A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: [51]And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
It was not about money they played to represent and put our little island up there it was nothing about money and we sure enjoyed cheering our tongan brothers on
Are you all there in the head? Completely going against what he’s saying🤦♂️listen to what he’s actually saying as it is for the betterment of the team and the island of Tonga
You’re not listening to it properly lol yes thankful for the boys playing for a lot less, however what’s been said here is in the bigger scheme of things eg local footy in development in Tonga, infrastructure of stadium in Tonga etc
William Edward is the evil guy, Manase was right..international board makes tongan league team on top ,once tonga rugby league run the show from tonga they will be rich by corruption and our team will go down leading to no more player want to play or represent tonga so people owning or claiming the mmt logo by these group of people is the first corrupting
How is he an evil guy? Edwards and Koloamatangi came into the board in 2018. They conducted a financial audit of the TNRL and found that hundreds and thousands of dollars went unaccounted. This was money that was mismanaged by the previous board that included Tavake Fangupo and former chair and current minister, Semisi Sika.
@@thefobbie0034 because the team was put together in NZ. Not Tonga you dummy. Tonga didn’t do anything. It all started in NZ when Taumalolo decided to leave the kiwis and play for Tonga. Nothing happened in that tiny island.
Reading peoples comments, the missed point is the Tongan 13 vs Tongan RL Union, the disconnect there and the created disparity between these two entities and who benefits the most, which isnt Tonga RL...
@@I_Negan_I What absolute RUBBISH!!!! The rugby league in Tonga was started by the Tonga National Rugby League (TNRL) in 1988 through George Mann! It started with 5 clubs and sent its national rugby league team - Mate Ma'a Tonga - to the 1988 Pacific Cup! Since then rugby league in Tonga was managed and administered by the TNRL! It was the TNRL that formed and started the Tonga national rugby league team - Mate Ma'a Tonga! It was the TNRL that appointed a coach to select and coach the team IT was the 1992 Pacific Cup that the Mate Ma'a Tonga team made the final vs Samoa This is where the movement started with the fans Without the TNRL starting the Mate Ma'a Tonga there would be NO Tongan fans!! NO TNRL, no Mate Ma'a Tonga! No Mate Ma'a Tonga, NO FANS! Since 2019 the International Rugby League (IRL) has railroaded the TNRL interim board out of the IRL and as the administrators of rugby league in Tonga It was Woolf who threatened the players that if they want to play for Tonga that they had to sign a letter of loyalty to Woolf threatening the TNRL to boycott the NRL 9s in 2019! IT was Woolf who sent Fifita to Tonga to get support through the PM Pohiva and falsely accused the TNRL interim board of stealing money! Tonga Rugby League (TRL) are the new appointed administrators of the game in Tonga ILLEGALLY by the IRL - was never approved by the Tongan government! Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards are in control of rugby league in Tonga now! You have NO clue on what you are talking about!
As soon as they hand back the team to TRL, they will start losing. The Tonga team is run more professionally by Wolf and current management. The local TRL and Semisi Sika were corrupt that's why they lost control on the team
Too many corruption in Tonga that’s why it’s not there it’s the same for the rugby union ,fix home first stop the corruption have a plan with the right people in there before we can bring the MMT back ,I also blame the nrl they should help out to build the game in Tonga fiji samoa because without the pacific boys nrl is dead 💯
The money will not go to use in the islands. The Tongan Rugby League board is greedy and will share it amongst themselves or only a few of them. They took the name Mate Ma’a Tonga off the team and wants to own all rights even to anyone selling merch w the name. Its sad how it is but thats the reality. Money hungry, but still Tgang 💯
Did this guy ask Mr Edwards why he never asked for funding from 2000,2008 or 2013 World Cup teams but makes a fuss after 2017, I wonder why?🤔. Majority of the merch is made by different independent traders, just have a look at what all the Tongan supporters were wearing at the the games, I don't think there's much money to made unless they can stop them. It is very easy for these guys to say they need to give money back to local Island footy but don't know the costs in running such an event over the month.
Let’s not forget that Tongan rugby have also employed a man guilty of the murder of Fau Vake - effectively giving him a chance to avoid real jail time and consequences of his actions
It is about money. Especially when there is almost a million dollars made from proceeds under the MMT name. Kristian Woolfe is woolf in sheeps clothing
So you are ok with you owning a property with a house on it and I - from the council - come in and take control of your property and house, rent out your house and property and I get ALL the money from the rental and you get nothing but you pay for the rates, repairs and maintenance! LMAO - that is exactly what Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards (ex ceo of International Rugby League) has done to Tonga National Rugby League!!!!
Bro the team doing well with out the all the politics. Island management dodgyvif they run things will be disaster better of the way its is now mate. Lived in Tonga see this Wilkiam Edwards one of them doggy guys . If they get cent they will keep it for themselves. Good subject talking about mate but get your info right sources it's one sided you been giving this subject to disgust by doggy Tongan management island. The the management now doing very good job with the team k Leave it alone talk about something else them players playing for Tonga with love Jersey they wearing key success. The people bring this subject up to you from Tonga they after money don't give shit about anything else about themselves they don't give shit about local development all talk. Never about money the playe from there heart mate. It's William his little circle trying cash in. If they care about Tonga rugby league name the release MMT to the boys. It's why they holding to cash in Tonga manager island doggy go lived Tonga you see this for yourself. Wolfie and overseas management doing great job well done highly appreciated by the people and the fans...don't hate others success it's curse. My apology if come sound rude best to be straight up truth not play politics God bless ❤
At the end of the day NRL makes money from sellout stadiums and local businesses makes money off selling flags. Tonga 13 doesn’t make money from selling out stadium do your homework first guys 🤣
This is FALSE! As part of the negotiation Tonga is to receive a percentage of the gate takings because the gate takings is made on the teams that are playing and promoted! You have NO clue on what you are talking about!
@@thefobbie0034 The 2024 Pacific Championships is proudly supported by the NSW Government’s tourism and major events agency, Destination NSW. The Pacific Bowl is proudly supported by the Australian Government through PacificAus Sports.
@@thefobbie0034 Queensland Minister for Tourism and Sport, Michael Healy said: “It is terrific that Brisbane gets the honour of hosting the opening round of this year’s Pacific Championships, with a ripping men’s and women’s cup double-header, at the best rectangular stadium in the world Suncorp Stadium. “Queensland is the ultimate destination for major NRL events, and we know an expected full house at the cauldron will create an amazing atmosphere, all while injecting an expected $7 million into the local visitor economy. lol... just another fob crying for a welfare check... tonga dont even have 7 million to fund the comp stupid
greed and politics - wish both sides would sit down and discuss a deal and percentage to share and be done with this. 2 corporation's = MMT local and MMT international - sit down and share percentage of profits etc, cant be that hard.
The corruption in Tonga ain’t gon help the team n players ofc that’s on tongas fault but that’s the reality so as it is just leave it as it is no corruption or any bs with money. If the boys want bk it if not shut the mouth n support we ain’t the ones on the field hahaha
It’s sad to read comments from what I’m assuming are “our” people, saying that “they would miss manage the money if we let them do it” is a testament to us being our worst haters. If you have a problem with how things are run back in the island, don’t support them. Don’t be fie poko from a whole different country and undermine the people who still live there. Will I support them no matter the name.. yes because I am Tongan.. does it look like some privileged taefkapaapa shit.. you bet your ass it does. Let the people IN Tonga decide how to represent Tonga. Don’t let your ego get in the way of the culture.
oh boy do these idiots even know that.. the reason why you get players now playing for samoa ppng and even tonga is cause the money unlike rugby union.. is equal pay.. unlike before where you play for the kangaroos you could be paid up to like 100 thousand for internationals
No it’s not. The Tier 2 teams aren’t getting paid the same as Tier 1 teams. That’s why the top players sacrifice to play for their families when they could’ve been making 50k to rep nz or Australia.
@@247Tongan "The system as it is now has obviously helped a lot because the Samoan and Tongan boys who get that Origin experience … and elect to play for their heritage nations, rather than the Kangaroos, lifts the standards and raises the competitiveness, and international rugby league is a winner as a result. "The system as it stands at the moment, selfishly, we really like it and it's very helpful for us. "Long term, New Zealand do have to guard against that. They are conscious of that and we do talk to them, but they were the [Pacific] champions last year. So that's the wonderful thing about how competitive it is."
Bragging about this players taking pay cuts, well to compare that with the local players back in the Islands, be it Fiji, Tonga or Samoa, League or Union whom MOST are non professional rugby players at all. The Samoan & Tongan International League players are still getting wages from their various clubs. I thought for a Nation to play or host your International games, you’re to host at the very Country you’re representing. Most of the League Internationals is hosted in Australia majority of the time. The locals at the Islands are deprived of watching unless they can afford to hop on a plane go & watch outside the country.
Why don't you ask Woolf and Scott Clark where did ALL the money for the MMT that the International Rugby League made in the 2017 Rugby League world cup go to? I will give you a hint - the money never went to Tonga!!!!!
@@thefobbie0034 went to the players dummy.. and the coach and that all that matter or like manu samoa.. irb gave money to manu samoa? what happen to all that money? went ot the prime ministers hand
Omg these guys are all professional NRL players, not like they are homegrown island players like the Fijian sevens team..they are not struggling for a dollar.. AFB and JT two of the highest paid players in the game. Do kangaroos or kiwis get a share of tickets they sell? Stop whinging just to whinge
Yeah actually the Kangaroo players receive a game remuneration when representing their country! The Tongan players playing for Tonga are getting about TOP$1,000 per game paid by the Tonga Government and Tonga is getting NOTHING from the International Rugby League - why? Because the white man - Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards (ex chairman of the IRL) now control rugby league in Tonga!!!!! There needs to be a investigation!
Exactly🤦♂️ when somethings going well people always ain’t satisfied and want more n here’s the case here n it ain’t the players but the outsiders smh if the boys are happy we should be too that’s all that matters! MMT baby!!!
1@petelosuaniu lol saying be honest then what the hell are the manu samoa and tongan team which are also made up of nz and aussies? they playing for our culture in front of like 10 dang fans.. and nobody give a shii when they play in europe? still crying you lil b... like some how a packed eden park.. of tongan and samoan cheering there damn team is like a negative.. go watch soccer if ya that upset league in the islands is growing
Let’s be honest, these “Tonga” and “Samoa” teams are fake national teams full of players who would play for Australia at the drop of a hat if the NRL changed the rules 😂 “Playing for our culture” is the biggest BS I’ve ever heard. You either play for your country or not.
@ nope, most of them were born in Samoa but play overseas. They’ll only play for Samoa as well. No other country. We did have some former all blacks last year but they were mostly useless.
@@petelosuaniu lol what are you talking about? the whole dang manu samoa team play for npc auckland and counties manukau? why they so shiiiii lol... go on name me players born in samoa playing for manu samoa?? how many?
@@petelosuaniu ha ha ha ha ha! so much for local players.. stop the dang hyporcisy! in fact there more than 4 players in the toa samoa team are born in samoa.. and one of them is tuvasa sheck!
It’s not about the money for Tonga so keep us outta the convo. Tonga and it’s people win and have more then enough to be grateful about just to have our boys come bk home n push our lil country to another level🙏🦾🔥
This is International Rugby League we’re talking about mate. It’s embarrassing. The money has to match what the Tongan team brings to our international game. Your brain is too tiny to fathom what is being discussed
@@rileyjacks2743no the movement was start because of money this money that. all the boys just play for the kingdom. in return the fans do the same buying tickets merch without hesitate or think about the price.
why people worry over this rubbish? or do you not know that the austrilian and kiwi players took paycuts.. and made the equal for all the nations.. unlike rugby union
@@zy823 The announcement comes after players at the World Cup Nines received equal match payments, regardless of gender or nation. The changes aim to rectify the pay disparity that was seen throughout the 2017 RLWC, where Australia's men's team received a fee of $50,000, compared to Tongan players, who were given just $500 now what lol now piss off...
So you don't mind the white man taking over what belongs to Tonga and making money off what belongs to Tonga - good one! Its like this - you own a house BUT I take control of the house, rent it out and get all the money for renting YOUR house out! Tell me how you are going to generate money when I basically control the ownership of your house and that you should not be worried about it!!!!!
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I’m Tongan. The problem with money going to Tonga is it doesn’t go towards what it was meant for. Instead people in power enrich themselves. Happens across every code and every sport and still happens in 2024! If the guys back in Tonga were in full control of the money. The guys who are selling out these stadiums won’t see a cent lol I know this happens in Samoa too bro.
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You tengas going against what he’s saying, and claiming “it isn’t about money” aren’t following what’s being said. His point is sooo much money is being made off of all the supporters, yet none of it is going towards the people in the islands who had started the team in the first place, which is preventing bigger and better opportunities for the up and coming athletes in Tonga. You usis going against this video are going against what Tongans in Tonga should rightfully have.
Yea some these ta’es can’t see the bigger picture fkn coconuts 🤦♂️
Wtf are you even talking about?? What tongan from tonga started this? This was started from Tongans from Australia and new Zealand, the team broke away from "tongan rugby league" because they're fkn CORRUPT!!!
😂😂😂 you're an idiot lol what tongan BORN in tonga started this?!!! This was started by players from Australia and new Zealand, and they broke away from "tongan rugby league" because they're CORRUPT!!! THIS MOVEMENT WAS ABOUT PAYING RESPECT TO THE PLAYERS PARENTS AND HERITAGE NOT ABOUT GIVING MONEY TO IDIOTS FROM THE ISLANDS WHOTHINK THEY DESERVE IT lol
You are spot on!!!! Could not have said it any better!
Agreed.
Would love for the Tongan rugby league in Tonga to get money and power but i feel like someone will def miss manage it and pick their family members as staff 😅
That is what Hopoate has done.
@@Reformed1-e1cwhat lol
@@Reformed1-e1c not really cos they each deserve and earned their positions , they not corrupted like the Tongan royalty / officials
Wow,I never thought about the proceeds & of it's shared etc good points being bought up
Us in tonga need nothing if anything the players sacrificed their careers they should get something out of it because they are definitely not getting payed by Tonga they are like working for free thats the passion these guys have and we are thankful
Thank you for shedding light 💯
Listening to this, i think i appreciate what our PNG Kumuls are doing to let local grass roots players to represent on a world stage.
😂😂😂only using local players because your players not good enough to play overseas, other wise overseas players would be picked before locals🤦🏽♂️
@JWorry676 atleast we don't have a fake ass diaspora team like you guys. And we gone have a national team in the NRL by 2027 so uh, keep talking down us.
@@Laundry_Bloc16good point. At least PNG team are all living in png 😂 I don’t like these stupid fake teams representing the island nations
@@petelosuaniu wow does Lachlan Lam and Nene McDonald live in Lae? Or Rhys Martin and Jack De Belin live in Port Moresby😂🤣😂
@@Laundry_Bloc16 diaspora is PNG team middle name more player play Super League than NRL, please learn your own team background before jumping online and even if you have NRL team in 2027 99% of team going to be from overseas countries😳😳😳🤫🤫🤫
The announcement comes after players at the World Cup Nines received equal match payments, regardless of gender or nation. The changes aim to rectify the pay disparity that was seen throughout the 2017 RLWC, where Australia's men's team received a fee of $50,000, compared to Tongan players, who were given just $500
Why don't you ask Woolf, Scott Clark and the International Rugby League and what they did with the monies that the IRL made from the Tonga games in the 2017 and 2022 Rugby League World Cups?????
Hint: - Tonga never received a cent!
@@thefobbie0034 again what does it matter? someone is gonna make the dang money.. and whoever gonna profit from it will not be the tongan rugby league federation? what freakin for if ya don't even play the games in tonga?
Absolutely valid points of discussion. Long gone the time palagi use islanders to become rich. Look back in time when slave trade started in Europe decades ago. I'm glad no palagi tells us what to do. SAMOA MO SAMOA.
what ya talking about? without the palagi samoa cant do shiiii. in fact its the white man money why manu samoa can even tour europe or dont you know they now broke.. cause the white man money has ran out
Deuteronomy 28:48-51
[48]Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
[49]The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
[50]A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
[51]And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
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Shalawam ! Bring it out 🔥
It was not about money they played to represent and put our little island up there it was nothing about money and we sure enjoyed cheering our tongan brothers on
Are you all there in the head? Completely going against what he’s saying🤦♂️listen to what he’s actually saying as it is for the betterment of the team and the island of Tonga
You’re not listening to it properly lol yes thankful for the boys playing for a lot less, however what’s been said here is in the bigger scheme of things eg local footy in development in Tonga, infrastructure of stadium in Tonga etc
too much corruption that is why.
Str8 up hahaha
Absolutely on point!
William Edward is the evil guy, Manase was right..international board makes tongan league team on top ,once tonga rugby league run the show from tonga they will be rich by corruption and our team will go down leading to no more player want to play or represent tonga so people owning or claiming the mmt logo by these group of people is the first corrupting
How is he an evil guy? Edwards and Koloamatangi came into the board in 2018. They conducted a financial audit of the TNRL and found that hundreds and thousands of dollars went unaccounted. This was money that was mismanaged by the previous board that included Tavake Fangupo and former chair and current minister, Semisi Sika.
Explain how Manase Lua is right when he lives in NZ and Tonga rugby league is in Tonga?????
You and Manase know NOTHING!!!!!
@@thefobbie0034 because the team was put together in NZ. Not Tonga you dummy.
Tonga didn’t do anything. It all started in NZ when Taumalolo decided to leave the kiwis and play for Tonga. Nothing happened in that tiny island.
Reading peoples comments, the missed point is the Tongan 13 vs Tongan RL Union, the disconnect there and the created disparity between these two entities and who benefits the most, which isnt Tonga RL...
@@stylzalidj 👏🏼
Exactly - its those who control Tonga XIII - Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards (ex-CEO of the International Rugby League)!
What did Tonga Rugby League contribute to the team??
They only want the money after what Woolf and the coaches put the team together.
@@I_Negan_I What absolute RUBBISH!!!!
The rugby league in Tonga was started by the Tonga National Rugby League (TNRL) in 1988 through George Mann! It started with 5 clubs and sent its national rugby league team - Mate Ma'a Tonga - to the 1988 Pacific Cup! Since then rugby league in Tonga was managed and administered by the TNRL!
It was the TNRL that formed and started the Tonga national rugby league team - Mate Ma'a Tonga!
It was the TNRL that appointed a coach to select and coach the team
IT was the 1992 Pacific Cup that the Mate Ma'a Tonga team made the final vs Samoa
This is where the movement started with the fans
Without the TNRL starting the Mate Ma'a Tonga there would be NO Tongan fans!!
NO TNRL, no Mate Ma'a Tonga! No Mate Ma'a Tonga, NO FANS!
Since 2019 the International Rugby League (IRL) has railroaded the TNRL interim board out of the IRL and as the administrators of rugby league in Tonga
It was Woolf who threatened the players that if they want to play for Tonga that they had to sign a letter of loyalty to Woolf threatening the TNRL to boycott the NRL 9s in 2019!
IT was Woolf who sent Fifita to Tonga to get support through the PM Pohiva and falsely accused the TNRL interim board of stealing money!
Tonga Rugby League (TRL) are the new appointed administrators of the game in Tonga ILLEGALLY by the IRL - was never approved by the Tongan government!
Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards are in control of rugby league in Tonga now!
You have NO clue on what you are talking about!
@@thefobbie0034 And??
They are not responsible for the 2017 rise of the team. That’s was all Australia and NZ.
This dude gotta a point..
As soon as they hand back the team to TRL, they will start losing. The Tonga team is run more professionally by Wolf and current management. The local TRL and Semisi Sika were corrupt that's why they lost control on the team
🇹🇴 🇹🇴🇹🇴🇹🇴🇹🇴 much ofas alofas and everything else lol
Spot on uso
While Afbs on 1.2mill a year😅
And what that’s the players person money ,do want them to play for nothing ??you stupid man
Too many corruption in Tonga that’s why it’s not there it’s the same for the rugby union ,fix home first stop the corruption have a plan with the right people in there before we can bring the MMT back ,I also blame the nrl they should help out to build the game in Tonga fiji samoa because without the pacific boys nrl is dead 💯
The money will not go to use in the islands. The Tongan Rugby League board is greedy and will share it amongst themselves or only a few of them. They took the name Mate Ma’a Tonga off the team and wants to own all rights even to anyone selling merch w the name. Its sad how it is but thats the reality. Money hungry, but still Tgang 💯
#CutOfDaPie
Did this guy ask Mr Edwards why he never asked for funding from 2000,2008 or 2013 World Cup teams but makes a fuss after 2017, I wonder why?🤔. Majority of the merch is made by different independent traders, just have a look at what all the Tongan supporters were wearing at the the games, I don't think there's much money to made unless they can stop them. It is very easy for these guys to say they need to give money back to local Island footy but don't know the costs in running such an event over the month.
This uce should just let things go.
Let’s not forget that Tongan rugby have also employed a man guilty of the murder of Fau Vake - effectively giving him a chance to avoid real jail time and consequences of his actions
Hahah this podcast is a whole lot of maybe but not know the full story 🤣🤣
This is why Da Tonga colonies the Pacific including you uso
Where is the 2017 money?
Sitting in a trust account under the NRL - the same with Fiji and Samoa!
@thefobbie0034 need reciepts
Too much fua poko 😂😂
Pokio😂😂😂 ai kae😂😂
tonga make the move wasnt about money if we were about money this would never happen. it was never about the money..
It is about money. Especially when there is almost a million dollars made from proceeds under the MMT name. Kristian Woolfe is woolf in sheeps clothing
So you are ok with you owning a property with a house on it and I - from the council - come in and take control of your property and house, rent out your house and property and I get ALL the money from the rental and you get nothing but you pay for the rates, repairs and maintenance!
LMAO - that is exactly what Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards (ex ceo of International Rugby League) has done to Tonga National Rugby League!!!!
Hard docs lol too much fie palangi hahaha
@@thefobbie0034 you're the man dox. Keep telling it. Also, where can I find more info on the woolfe, Scott Clark, Jeremy Edwards?
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Bro the team doing well with out the all the politics.
Island management dodgyvif they run things will be disaster better of the way its is now mate.
Lived in Tonga see this Wilkiam Edwards one of them doggy guys .
If they get cent they will keep it for themselves.
Good subject talking about mate but get your info right sources it's one sided you been giving this subject to disgust by doggy Tongan management island.
The the management now doing very good job with the team k
Leave it alone talk about something else them players playing for Tonga with love Jersey they wearing key success.
The people bring this subject up to you from Tonga they after money don't give shit about anything else about themselves they don't give shit about local development all talk.
Never about money the playe from there heart mate.
It's William his little circle trying cash in.
If they care about Tonga rugby league name the release MMT to the boys.
It's why they holding to cash in Tonga manager island doggy go lived Tonga you see this for yourself.
Wolfie and overseas management doing great job well done highly appreciated by the people and the fans...don't hate others success it's curse.
My apology if come sound rude best to be straight up truth not play politics
God bless ❤
Nrl gets it all
Maybe not PNG team in NRL, maybe a Pacific Island NRL team ?
You're sorely mistaken to think that all the problems stem from any foreign management. A lot of problems with the local registered federations.
At the end of the day NRL makes money from sellout stadiums and local businesses makes money off selling flags. Tonga 13 doesn’t make money from selling out stadium do your homework first guys 🤣
facts lol
This is FALSE! As part of the negotiation Tonga is to receive a percentage of the gate takings because the gate takings is made on the teams that are playing and promoted!
You have NO clue on what you are talking about!
@@thefobbie0034 The 2024 Pacific Championships is proudly supported by the NSW Government’s tourism and major events agency, Destination NSW. The Pacific Bowl is proudly supported by the Australian Government through PacificAus Sports.
@@thefobbie0034 ops now what? lol just you talking your shiiiii
@@thefobbie0034 Queensland Minister for Tourism and Sport, Michael Healy said: “It is terrific that Brisbane gets the honour of hosting the opening round of this year’s Pacific Championships, with a ripping men’s and women’s cup double-header, at the best rectangular stadium in the world Suncorp Stadium.
“Queensland is the ultimate destination for major NRL events, and we know an expected full house at the cauldron will create an amazing atmosphere, all while injecting an expected $7 million into the local visitor economy. lol... just another fob crying for a welfare check... tonga dont even have 7 million to fund the comp stupid
I like this USO the USO knows what he's talking about very smart USO speak about the truth you are one of the REAL ONES 💯. Ofa atu USO 🇹🇴
Everyone is crooks. The tonga people just like the Samoan miss out, but the King ain't say nothing 🤫🤔🤔
greed and politics - wish both sides would sit down and discuss a deal and percentage to share and be done with this. 2 corporation's = MMT local and MMT international - sit down and share percentage of profits etc, cant be that hard.
Talk tu’a Samoan uso
So...... The TONGA XIII Team is run by a White International RL Board? Damn... Heartbreaking
These Samoan trying to pollute the relationship between MMT and da supporters
The corruption in Tonga ain’t gon help the team n players ofc that’s on tongas fault but that’s the reality so as it is just leave it as it is no corruption or any bs with money. If the boys want bk it if not shut the mouth n support we ain’t the ones on the field hahaha
Facts
It’s sad to read comments from what I’m assuming are “our” people, saying that “they would miss manage the money if we let them do it” is a testament to us being our worst haters. If you have a problem with how things are run back in the island, don’t support them. Don’t be fie poko from a whole different country and undermine the people who still live there. Will I support them no matter the name.. yes because I am Tongan.. does it look like some privileged taefkapaapa shit.. you bet your ass it does. Let the people IN Tonga decide how to represent Tonga. Don’t let your ego get in the way of the culture.
Is it just me or does this panel need to humble themselves? Seems to be getting more n more toxic with no varying views?
It's just you.
oh boy do these idiots even know that.. the reason why you get players now playing for samoa ppng and even tonga is cause the money unlike rugby union.. is equal pay.. unlike before where you play for the kangaroos you could be paid up to like 100 thousand for internationals
No it’s not. The Tier 2 teams aren’t getting paid the same as Tier 1 teams. That’s why the top players sacrifice to play for their families when they could’ve been making 50k to rep nz or Australia.
@@247Tongan "The system as it is now has obviously helped a lot because the Samoan and Tongan boys who get that Origin experience … and elect to play for their heritage nations, rather than the Kangaroos, lifts the standards and raises the competitiveness, and international rugby league is a winner as a result.
"The system as it stands at the moment, selfishly, we really like it and it's very helpful for us.
"Long term, New Zealand do have to guard against that. They are conscious of that and we do talk to them, but they were the [Pacific] champions last year. So that's the wonderful thing about how competitive it is."
Bragging about this players taking pay cuts, well to compare that with the local players back in the Islands, be it Fiji, Tonga or Samoa, League or Union whom MOST are non professional rugby players at all. The Samoan & Tongan International League players are still getting wages from their various clubs. I thought for a Nation to play or host your International games, you’re to host at the very Country you’re representing. Most of the League Internationals is hosted in Australia majority of the time. The locals at the Islands are deprived of watching unless they can afford to hop on a plane go & watch outside the country.
Why don't you ask Woolf and Scott Clark where did ALL the money for the MMT that the International Rugby League made in the 2017 Rugby League world cup go to?
I will give you a hint - the money never went to Tonga!!!!!
@@thefobbie0034 went to the players dummy.. and the coach and that all that matter or like manu samoa.. irb gave money to manu samoa? what happen to all that money? went ot the prime ministers hand
Omg these guys are all professional NRL players, not like they are homegrown island players like the Fijian sevens team..they are not struggling for a dollar.. AFB and JT two of the highest paid players in the game. Do kangaroos or kiwis get a share of tickets they sell? Stop whinging just to whinge
Hes talking about money going back to the Tongan Rugby League grassroots clubs. I think you need to actually watch the video.
Yeah actually the Kangaroo players receive a game remuneration when representing their country! The Tongan players playing for Tonga are getting about TOP$1,000 per game paid by the Tonga Government and Tonga is getting NOTHING from the International Rugby League - why? Because the white man - Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards (ex chairman of the IRL) now control rugby league in Tonga!!!!!
There needs to be a investigation!
Exactly🤦♂️ when somethings going well people always ain’t satisfied and want more n here’s the case here n it ain’t the players but the outsiders smh if the boys are happy we should be too that’s all that matters! MMT baby!!!
What has Fiji 7s has to do with this 😂😂😂
Terribly uninformed podcast holy shit.
Guys do some research before making assertions about where the money is going.
1@petelosuaniu lol saying be honest then what the hell are the manu samoa and tongan team which are also made up of nz and aussies? they playing for our culture in front of like 10 dang fans.. and nobody give a shii when they play in europe? still crying you lil b... like some how a packed eden park.. of tongan and samoan cheering there damn team is like a negative.. go watch soccer if ya that upset
league in the islands is growing
Let’s be honest, these “Tonga” and “Samoa” teams are fake national teams full of players who would play for Australia at the drop of a hat if the NRL changed the rules 😂
“Playing for our culture” is the biggest BS I’ve ever heard. You either play for your country or not.
oh shud up then what is manu samoa? a fake made samoan team stop crying lol
@ nope, most of them were born in Samoa but play overseas. They’ll only play for Samoa as well. No other country. We did have some former all blacks last year but they were mostly useless.
@@petelosuaniu lol what are you talking about? the whole dang manu samoa team play for npc auckland and counties manukau? why they so shiiiii lol... go on name me players born in samoa playing for manu samoa?? how many?
@ Fritz Lee, Theodore McFarland, Melani Matavao, that’s just off the top of my head
@@petelosuaniu ha ha ha ha ha! so much for local players.. stop the dang hyporcisy! in fact there more than 4 players in the toa samoa team are born in samoa.. and one of them is tuvasa sheck!
It’s not about the money for Tonga so keep us outta the convo. Tonga and it’s people win and have more then enough to be grateful about just to have our boys come bk home n push our lil country to another level🙏🦾🔥
This is International Rugby League we’re talking about mate. It’s embarrassing. The money has to match what the Tongan team brings to our international game.
Your brain is too tiny to fathom what is being discussed
It is about the money.
Tonga should benefit financially.
Don't let the pakeha pull the wool over ur eyes.
Always look at the bigger picture.
@@lesblase3667 but why worry about it if the tongan team and tongan fan dont worry about it?
@@rileyjacks2743no the movement was start because of money this money that. all the boys just play for the kingdom. in return the fans do the same buying tickets merch without hesitate or think about the price.
@@Maximus-hi5htsii taemahino
why people worry over this rubbish? or do you not know that the austrilian and kiwi players took paycuts.. and made the equal for all the nations.. unlike rugby union
No one cares what you have to say
@@zy823 then why did you reply shud up lol
@@zy823 The announcement comes after players at the World Cup Nines received equal match payments, regardless of gender or nation. The changes aim to rectify the pay disparity that was seen throughout the 2017 RLWC, where Australia's men's team received a fee of $50,000, compared to Tongan players, who were given just $500
now what lol now piss off...
No they didn’t. Shut up, stop making up lies
@@ilove100times kefe
The islands need to generate their own $$$ instead of relying on aus to pay for everything🤷
Unfortunately that's not how it works.
And ur mind set is concerning.
Tonga can profit from these games and easily.
Even 5% 10% anything...
these are samoans talks about our business ahahahaha dont worry we not about money we all about taking our tiny island to the world stage
So you don't mind the white man taking over what belongs to Tonga and making money off what belongs to Tonga - good one!
Its like this - you own a house BUT I take control of the house, rent it out and get all the money for renting YOUR house out! Tell me how you are going to generate money when I basically control the ownership of your house and that you should not be worried about it!!!!!
@@Maximus-hi5htstr8 up lol just talk about how good we are n appreciate shove the 5cents hahaha
@@TGAlways the Tongan rugby league aren't making any $$,dats wot he's saying. Stop being r kota bro he makes r gud point.
I'm Tongan, you guys only talk about money if you put money in if you didn't put money in tapuni homou gutu lea noaia fie poto 🫵