Faz Finisher all roll on roll off are top heavy with a huge wind sail effect..there ballast pumps are way to small to compensate once a list starts...amplify that with nylon ratchet straps with only needing a 50 percent rating of the gross weight of the load makes for a very delicate handling ship...
Cargo ship??its a roll on roll off car and equipment ship, they are notoriously top heavy and have a huge wind area, they tie down vehicles, heavy equipment and semi trailers with cargo on them with nylon straps witch stretch and fail on a regular basis, the vehicles shift inside even in slightly rough seas, and the ballasting systems cannot compensate fast enough to shift water to the different tanks do to the small transfer pipes once a list starts.
At the 55 second point in the narration, the reporter unfortunately talks about where the bulbous bow (as in bow and arrow) transitions to the keel. Ships have bows (short O sound), not bows (long O sound). Did anybody at this TV station even listen to the report before it was shown? The reported may have never been around a ship or boat before.
They ran over bouey 19! Duh, . . , double duh even! That means they rolled off the shoulder of the mountain road and down in the valley , in automobile terms (with a "keep to the right" sign smashed in the grill!).
It's quite improbable that the cars would be not secured properly. Before a car carrier leaves a port, the crew and the shore people make sure that the cargo is secured. However there may be a possibility that the heavy cargo which is loaded in the bottom deck may have shifted due to improper securing. But I don't know if she was carrying any heavy cargo. If not then the ballast was improperly distributed and the stability of the vessel was not checked before departure.
Karan Sharma cargo shifts constantly on the voyage they use nylon straps that stretch and fail watch the mighty ships series specifically the MV Tonsberg and watch them struggle to keep the cargo secured on the voyage....
It's been over a year since this came out. Has anyone heard the real reason? You know they know by now and they have likely known for a long time...There's a lot of liability at stake. I've always been partial to loading doors not being properly secured theory, but I'm a landlubber. What do I know?
Well my friend you would be wrong just as I was! I said pretty much the same thing myself after this happened. But I read the Captain was back at work a few days later. Doesn't make sense to me either!
The so simple as standing flat footed on dry ground in the day light and asking the tough questions! Get a license and actually do something stand a watch on a bad night or land a commuter aircraft in less that prefect conditions. Can you or the rest of the team do anything other than smile and read the teleapromter
....capsized or, what led to it ... doors left open by the Crew. Yeh, ship's Master had failed sea-doors-check and also, entered wrong ballast. Crew mistake but Captain ultimate responsibility which is hardly mentioned. $2bn later, the Press itself should be hanged out to dry. Same yardarm.
This thing has been there for a year now, obstructing ship traffic and being an ecological hazard. They're just now getting it cut up and removed. Absolutely an important story!
Doesn't have a hole in it so therefore it'll stay afloat and also where it was located the water wasn't deep enough to let it sink out of sight so yahh hope this answered your question :)
As I said, everything falls to the captain, he maintains responsibility for every aspect of his ship. Even so, the Captain usually entrusts his Chief Mate to keep the vessels stability. On our ship the Captain inquires as to our GM, that's it. It is my duty to ensure the vessel is loaded pand ballasted properly.
Exactly, This shouldn't be too hard to investigate. The ballast water treatment/management systems could have played a part. The BWTS maintenance of them being used in estuary waters may have been a factor, ie strainer cleanings and the depth at dock side (ship getting stuck in the mud right at dockside). It all should be in the various log books, engine room and Bridge logs.
The ship was top-heavy. The wrong vehicles were loaded too high up. SUVs are much heavier than compact cars. Ballast could have been a problem too, and the harbour pilot may have been going too fast when he executed the turn. Regardless, it's almost all human error and an expensive mistake, or series of mistakes. I hope a few dumbasses lost their jobs.
It’s a scratch. What’s the significance of all the red? Blood? Yeah looks like blood. It’s copper paint to protect the hull of the vessel from parasites. The question of the red is totally a question worth asking, but not when it’s being asked by an (presumably) educated grown adult as he ponders it’s significance to a capsized ship. Improper stabilization. Not. The ship just crossed the ocean. If it was not correctly secured, meaning every item of cargo, it would’ve rolled over at sea. The two ships passing a narrow and mostly shallow channel is the cause. This ship clearly hit a shelf, due to being too near shore. The other ship was probably to near center, fearing the same concern from the captain. Had they both been fully aware of what their charts (even computerized as they likely all are) indicated, the two should have safely passed beam to beam. But one more than likely hogged the lane, while the other was left to hit the curb, so to speak. Ship captains are pawns of the owners of these massive beasts. Slowing down is not encouraged, nor is waiting. A waiting stalled ship isn’t accruing money, it’s hemorrhaging money. Fuel and crew. I would imagine at least one of those captains was fired. Sinking a ship, full of cars, when it’s so blatantly avoidable is inexcusable. That skipper probably taxis a charter boat in the bayou these days.
john gillon ... no secrecy here, just too early in the game to have all the info. Same thing they do in a plane crash or a major fire. They will tell us AFTER the investigation is done. BTW, 4,200 cars made in Korea.
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Just a long shot... was this red, white & blue cargo ship by any chance part of a "Boaters for Trump" parade? I think, if I were the lead investigator, that is the first thing I'd want to check out!
@@edremeika9788 I've read about you Russian operatives who troll the internet in hopes of 'fitting a word in edgewise'. I would be more than happy to assume that position, if you would be willing to join me, 'Comrade Ed'... Because, I will need training and you have obviously had far more experience at the position than I. In the meantime, if you and your fellow Russian comrades don't mind, I think I will stick with advising the investigators.
Good report. Thanks.
Also because most of car carriers ship are top heavy.
Wow. What a non story. "Damage to the bottom of the boat"...could it have caused it to flip...and sink!??! Fools in local media.
Ya cus u only watch Fox News and FX movies
He pronounced "bow" of the ship like bow (and arrow).
Gotta love media experts with no real life experience or qualifications on the subject matter.....
pilot error. I never flew a helicopter either, but if I saw one in a tree, I'd know for sure it was pilot error .. lol
What happened is a flawed design,plenty of these boats have turned turtle for very little manoeuvre.
Faz Finisher all roll on roll off are top heavy with a huge wind sail effect..there ballast pumps are way to small to compensate once a list starts...amplify that with nylon ratchet straps with only needing a 50 percent rating of the gross weight of the load makes for a very delicate handling ship...
Roll-on/roll-off ships are nicknamed "roll-on/roll-over" ships in the shipping industry. It's an extremely flawed design.
So... this cargo ship tripped and fell over? I love it!
Worse. It got scrapped from anchor+chain and improper stability. Cars all on one side and no cars on another side.
They finally getting it cleaned up.
Cargo ship??its a roll on roll off car and equipment ship, they are notoriously top heavy and have a huge wind area, they tie down vehicles, heavy equipment and semi trailers with cargo on them with nylon straps witch stretch and fail on a regular basis, the vehicles shift inside even in slightly rough seas, and the ballasting systems cannot compensate fast enough to shift water to the different tanks do to the small transfer pipes once a list starts.
So you’re saying that the very same reason that probable caused it’s capsized could cause other alike vessels to undergo the same problem?
I have some freinds who are life long natives of St Simons. They are mad as hell. And rightly so.
At the 55 second point in the narration, the reporter unfortunately talks about where the bulbous bow (as in bow and arrow) transitions to the keel. Ships have bows (short O sound), not bows (long O sound). Did anybody at this TV station even listen to the report before it was shown? The reported may have never been around a ship or boat before.
Good u caught that
I remember hearing about this 2 years ago
First time I've heard NTSB investigates Maritime Accients! Thought that was on the USCG to investagate.
Yep, they also investigate some pipeline, aviation , highway and railroad accidents.
Top heavy, negative stability.
'Two football fields' and '150 yards' are not commonly used units of measurements these days. Simply state it as 140 metres and be done with it.
Not commonly used in most of the world, but in the US, the English measurement system is quite entrenched in usage.
yeah, I have no idea what that means. 140 meters, that I know, and I'm an american.
Hmm "they did not appear to have left the channel". But they are in 3 feet of water, laying on their side. Hmm.
Things tend to drift, when not under power.
They ran over bouey 19!
Duh, . . , double duh even!
That means they rolled off the shoulder of the mountain road and down in the valley , in automobile terms (with a "keep to the right" sign smashed in the grill!).
It's quite improbable that the cars would be not secured properly. Before a car carrier leaves a port, the crew and the shore people make sure that the cargo is secured. However there may be a possibility that the heavy cargo which is loaded in the bottom deck may have shifted due to improper securing. But I don't know if she was carrying any heavy cargo. If not then the ballast was improperly distributed and the stability of the vessel was not checked before departure.
Karan Sharma cargo shifts constantly on the voyage they use nylon straps that stretch and fail watch the mighty ships series specifically the MV Tonsberg and watch them struggle to keep the cargo secured on the voyage....
also the door on port side was left open wich caused water to pour in while it was turning
It's been over a year since this came out. Has anyone heard the real reason? You know they know by now and they have likely known for a long time...There's a lot of liability at stake.
I've always been partial to loading doors not being properly secured theory, but I'm a landlubber. What do I know?
@@arturobuco The Judge decreed it, the clerk he wrote it. Yes indeed-e
A typo. That is the legit reason
Top heavy.
The Captain of The Golden Ray is now working in the Fast Food industry...as a Fry Cook...
Well my friend you would be wrong just as I was! I said pretty much the same thing myself after this happened. But I read the Captain was back at work a few days later. Doesn't make sense to me either!
@@LasVegas68 I think the Costa Line is hiring. After the Concordia, this joke of a Captain has all the qualifications!
It's taking a nap
Scratch my belly ,,, please
something like this has happened to me before, while banging in a sandstorm
Another "story" by local yokel news.
The so simple as standing flat footed on dry ground in the day light and asking the tough questions! Get a license and actually do something stand a watch on a bad night or land a commuter aircraft in less that prefect conditions. Can you or the rest of the team do anything other than smile and read the teleapromter
Ignorance and Want is very Common. . no they Can't understand. .
Never look for anything more than a police blotter recap from the tv num-nuts. Real journalism has been gone from tv 'nooz' for years.
Please let me know ISM
Nice
No one's gonna mention the ufo in the video?
Like the concordia.
Did they manage to place it upright again??
nO Apparently they a cutting it up in situ
You can balance a coin on its edge but , it can't move an inth before toppling.
Minorcan Mullet channel has the best videos about this salvage! Check out his channel. You won't be disappointed.
Caraca meu se e louco cachoeira
So the title is misleading
Ни чего не понятно но очень интересно))))
Cогласен
Внутри 4000 новеньких киа и хёндай... судно будет распилено и утилизировано вместе с грузом...
Oh wow
Bade bade samandar me choti choti accident hote rahta hai. Nothing is panic.
1:45 Water is a mysterious substance. It's like a paper box on a surface of gelatin, but if there is a small hole, it sinks.
....capsized or, what led to it ... doors left open by the Crew. Yeh, ship's Master had failed sea-doors-check and also, entered wrong ballast.
Crew mistake but Captain ultimate responsibility which is hardly mentioned.
$2bn later, the Press itself should be hanged out to dry. Same yardarm.
South Korea's quality just like those Hyundai cars
What these it mean?
The captain left the chat
What? Shittino got another command already? Though he was in prison for the Concordia wreck!
Wow
Are we reaching for a story to cover?
This thing has been there for a year now, obstructing ship traffic and being an ecological hazard. They're just now getting it cut up and removed. Absolutely an important story!
Is that a shallow river? How come it didn’t sink?
Doesn't have a hole in it so therefore it'll stay afloat and also where it was located the water wasn't deep enough to let it sink out of sight so yahh hope this answered your question :)
O hell just tell us its going 2 cost US CITIZENS that its going 2b a tax right off 🙄
Insuranxe a Rates. .shy I am. A Minimalist. .
"two football fields"
O bagulho é doidão 😁😁
two football fields, i gets that's better then using peoples yards or thier feet
Dùng 4 tàu to như thế đứng 4 phía bơm nước thật đầy vô rồi quấn xích quanh con tàu chìm..xong bơm nước trong 4 con tàu ra nó sẽ nâng con tàu lên
The ship is too high, too round and the back and the front does not support outside charge.
Captain error?
Everything ultimately is the Captain's fault. But the Chief Mate is the one charged with the stability of the ship.
As I said, everything falls to the captain, he maintains responsibility for every aspect of his ship. Even so, the Captain usually entrusts his Chief Mate to keep the vessels stability.
On our ship the Captain inquires as to our GM, that's it. It is my duty to ensure the vessel is loaded pand ballasted properly.
Exactly, This shouldn't be too hard to investigate. The ballast water treatment/management systems could have played a part. The BWTS maintenance of them being used in estuary waters may have been a factor, ie strainer cleanings and the depth at dock side (ship getting stuck in the mud right at dockside). It all should be in the various log books, engine room and Bridge logs.
THE 2 THINGS GONE WRONG: IT RAN AGROUND, AND THAT THAT BOAT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE AKULA/TYPHOON CLASS SSBN.
Vessel has negative GM.
Bow is pronounced like "bow wow", dummies.
The ship was top-heavy. The wrong vehicles were loaded too high up. SUVs are much heavier than compact cars. Ballast could have been a problem too, and the harbour pilot may have been going too fast when he executed the turn. Regardless, it's almost all human error and an expensive mistake, or series of mistakes. I hope a few dumbasses lost their jobs.
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It’s a scratch.
What’s the significance of all the red?
Blood? Yeah looks like blood.
It’s copper paint to protect the hull of the vessel from parasites.
The question of the red is totally a question worth asking, but not when it’s being asked by an (presumably) educated grown adult as he ponders it’s significance to a capsized ship.
Improper stabilization.
Not. The ship just crossed the ocean. If it was not correctly secured, meaning every item of cargo, it would’ve rolled over at sea.
The two ships passing a narrow and mostly shallow channel is the cause. This ship clearly hit a shelf, due to being too near shore. The other ship was probably to near center, fearing the same concern from the captain.
Had they both been fully aware of what their charts (even computerized as they likely all are) indicated, the two should have safely passed beam to beam.
But one more than likely hogged the lane, while the other was left to hit the curb, so to speak.
Ship captains are pawns of the owners of these massive beasts. Slowing down is not encouraged, nor is waiting. A waiting stalled ship isn’t accruing money, it’s hemorrhaging money. Fuel and crew.
I would imagine at least one of those captains was fired. Sinking a ship, full of cars, when it’s so blatantly avoidable is inexcusable. That skipper probably taxis a charter boat in the bayou these days.
Seems you ate wrong on most all counts !
Lame.
To top heavy and un even weight
Because he did not employ us
Error de diseño
Why all the Secrecy? Something seems fishy. I hope those aren't american made cars.
john gillon
... no secrecy here, just too early in the game to have all the info. Same thing they do in a plane crash or a major fire. They will tell us AFTER the investigation is done. BTW, 4,200 cars made in Korea.
So get Superman to upright the ship.
What about Tom Cruise to save the day?
I blame trump.
I think this is one of the few things he is in the clear with.
ING fail , those boat roll over all over the planet ....
No entendi ni una guea
Laughably stupid clickbait, yellow journalism. Report these weasels.
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Watc....kargo corona
Ok
Oh god😋😋
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Clearly the ship went in shallow water and flipped 😒
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Looks like the “Home for Retards” just got the internet!
Just a long shot... was this red, white & blue cargo ship by any chance part of a "Boaters for Trump" parade?
I think, if I were the lead investigator, that is the first thing I'd want to check out!
You would make a better anchor than investigator.
@@edremeika9788 I've read about you Russian operatives who troll the internet in hopes of 'fitting a word in edgewise'.
I would be more than happy to assume that position, if you would be willing to join me, 'Comrade Ed'... Because, I will need training and you have obviously had far more experience at the position than I.
In the meantime, if you and your fellow Russian comrades don't mind, I think I will stick with advising the investigators.
Pap ma ih. Hana ku tupu i peugah. Aleh bahasa pu i peugah haba awak nyan
Its red on the bottom...could that be a contributing factor?? Tf guy