00:00:00 Intro 00:03:00 Details from documents 00:05:00 The victim was slumped over in the front passenger seat 00:07:25 Sterns says the three slept in the bed together 00:08:50 Map time 00:12:05 Interview with police, February 27th 2024 01:20:20 Debrief and Outro FULL CASE PLAYLIST: th-cam.com/play/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ.html
86 originally was used for burials in cemeteries: 8’ x 6’. Then evolved to just 86 meaning “not alive”…using this in restaurant terminology would mean that the customer is modifying the order (no ketchup = “86 ketchup”). 🖤🖤🖤
@@psalmbird6187unfortunately, my thoughts wondered there as well as I was first listening to him. I was curious if anyone was creeped out by this thought as well. 🤮
That alone made absolutely no sense…and she was sleeping in the car. Don’t you think she would have preferred to stay in bed a little longer than to be dropped off so early for school. He’s screwed anyway and I hope it is the death penalty. Skip the trial and go straight to sentencing.
When I think about it, I never even sat on my parents bed, maybe at 4 or 5..my mom let me crawl on her side after a nightmare, but only fir a few minutes..it is totally weird that the mom let her sleep w her bf
He's not a morning person, and they were both half asleep. But they rushed to get out the door early to go to McDonald's, but then they didn't go to McDonald's. She "poo poo'd" the idea. I'm sorry. WHAT? Makes no sense at all!!!!!
Yes you hear that tone in her voice as she asks questions. Probably dying to get away from the smell of BS. As soon as realised he had little info/ call data etc on his phone and told her he did the factory reset. That is the sudden realisation that his story is not adding up.
What the hell are feeding your kids if that is what they look forward to at age 13?!!! That's normal for a 5 year old, but if your child still wants that at 13, you're feeding them crap and not teaching them about actual food.
@@lisao6928a lot of teenagers want fast food no matter what time of day. Not all households take the time to do a hot breakfast either (just cereal), and a McDonalds breakfast sandwich would be like a treat. There are many scenarios where a 13 year old would want that….that being said, he is lying about the whole thing so it’s a moot point.
@@nightwithout-stars1951 It's not on here, but yes in another report when they interviewed Jennifer she admitted that if she was having a difficult time with her anxiety instead of them all three sleeping together she would make Stepan and Maddie sleep in another bedroom together so that she could get a good night of sleep. What type of mother even thinks about putting her 12 or 13 year old in the same bed with her and her boyfriend. I had heard Jennifer's roommate in an interview talk about Jennifer liked men and women for her sexual partners, I pray to God that they weren't having threesomes and that Jennifer wasn't having sex with her own daughter in her bed at the same time she was having sex with SS.
Have some compassion, she lost her daughter by a psychopath, its all good saying who would go out with him but they don't come inside your home making it obvious they are a predator. They wear the mask of sanity, many of intelligent woman men work colleagues, friends, uncles, brothers, sisters are fooled every day by their mask. U could know one. If his own parents didnt know, his mates, his family, then how is a lady who only new him 6 years going to know..psychopaths want keep u in the dark untill they don't. That girl wouldn't have known he was a monster until the day he showed himself..
To be honest and not too unkind, I don't think she is very bright, to say the least. She could also be easily manipulated, depending on her past experiences. We just don't know for certain at this point. I can, sadly, see him manipulating Maddy, using his disgusting photos of her to make her tell her mom that she's too frightened to go sleep by herself and that she needs him (the monster) to be there for her, to help her. God, that is so cruel and evil, on top of everything else. Or maybe her mom is truly willfully ignorant. There are so many facets to these horrendous crimes. I'm not at all wanting to excuse her behaviour, but only to give allowances for how things could have gone so terribly wrong. That poor dear child. I hope he gets prison justice before he gets moved to the more secure Death Row wing. Florida does NOT play games with child preditors/murderers! When a child predator is in general population, that's when just about 💯% of prison justice gets dealt out. So, here's to hoping for that, and swiftly 🥂 🤞
He's such a whiner: haven't eaten, can't sleep, took tranquilizers, took Ativan & conked out, crying, help my parents, yapping dogs drive me nuts, had to get away from chaos, not a morning person, whiney cracking voice.. trying to remember... leaking his truth several times: "we had time to KILL..." several times! 😢
Notice he was only looking for sympathy and understanding from the female officer. He wasn't doing the 'poor me' routine with the male officer when she left the room for a few minutes. This makes me think this man has preyed on females for a very long time. I have no doubt at all that it will be revealed that Maddie wasn't his only victim!
Jenn was turning a blind eye at best, and poor Maddie, she was just stuck. If she didn't do exactly as she was told, he'd probably have told her hed show the people she loved most, all those secret photos or videos he took of her doing those things with him. The level of manipulation would have been enough to break anyone, let alone poor little13 year old Maddie, she was really stuck going along with him out of sheer terror. I've seen this once before with my childhood bestie in the 70s. I just happened to see something I wasn't supposed to see and she begged me, with tears streaming down her face, not to ever tell anyone what I'd seen, which was her, dressed in her mothers sexy nightgown, in her mom's bedroom with the nasty old lawn mowing guy. While her moms was at work. I saw this through her moms bedroom window. I knew well enough to peek because he showed up while I was visiting her. He came to the door and asked if he could use her phone. She told me the only phone he could use was in her moms bedroom. There was one right next to me in the LIVINGROOM!Then she asked to me please leave. That's when I went around the back of their house to look inside. Hell, she had ME terrified as well, for her safety. After a month or so, she withdrew from me & every single classmate she was friends with. We were in the 5th grade. I now wish I'd been able to go behind her back and scream what I'd seen to every adult I knew. I'm still raw with the knowledge of that day. Like a deep wound that can't ever heal. I wonder often if she's even still alive now. Many of these victims self delete. So I can fully understand the level of manipulation an adult can lay on a child. It's truly evil. I say that not as a Christian who believes in such things, but it's a very fitting word for such cruelty a person can do. Wow, I think this I the first time I've ever shared that story. Sorry for the long winded rant. Maddies story really hit a nerve with me, deeply. Of anyone made it this far, dang, thank you for reading 💛
Why do we always have to hear the culprit’s life story? “I have rolling anxiety attacks, I’m not a morning person…, I’m not good with directions, blah blah blah”. 🤢😩🤨🤢 It’s almost a sure sign of guilt!
I respectfully disagree. The start of puberty in girls is visually pretty obvious. It doesn’t bother me that he noticed, but it does bother me that he brought it up at all.
I agree! It’s sad because you can still get away with being stupid. Maddie’s mother should go to jail for thinking to bring a strange man and your daughter into one bed. How Gross! He’s out of touch with reality. Playing to many games!
@@alfonzo7822these murderers NEVER do. They can never weave together a coherent, consistent lie to tell cops. They always either fuck it up, or like stearns, are so dumb that they somehow connect odd bits and pieces and make it into a coherent story/narrative. Problem is we can see (hear) just how out of place these connectors are in regards to their story. They make it overly complicated and full of shit that makes no sense with what they’re trying to sell as what they did. It’s obvious, to him him though, he never realizes how contradicting every detail he just gave was. Moron
The part that gets me is he really thought he was gonna get away this. Thank God for his stupidity. I grew up in Hunters Creek in Kissimmee. My parents still have their house there. It’s a huge development with upscale houses and condos. Never expected something like this to happen in a place I considered safe. Sadly the community was much more helpful in honoring her memory than her own mother. The people here are still torn and want Jennifer to be held accountable. At least for her negligence if nothing else. She didn’t stand up for her daughter when she was with us, the least she could do now is show her face in the name of her daughter!
Yes cuz every child that needs skin contact with somebody while they're sleeping at night is going to be very confident and convincing that they want to be dropped off in the middle of nowhere and an hour and a half before school ALONE
Ugh. His voice creeps me out. Did he say he shares a bed with Maddie and her mother… wth was her mother thinking… Jenn soto needs her head screwing back on.
She needs jail time...weak ass woman, who couldn't see past, "having a man", that she didn't think at all of her daughter's safety...poor, poor, poor Maddie!!...this is just heartbreaking!!
Why would any mother ask their boyfriend to go sleep in bed with daughter? Why should a man even agree to that, unless….? DISGUSTING Why would he also show up hours *after* her birthday party?
Is there anybody to get a hold of down there so I can purchase something to donate to her memorial? I’m from Ohio and want to add to her growing memorial Justice for Maddie 🫶
I’m sure at the time of this interview the police were on to him but the female cop cannot hide her disdain for him. She is so short with him and isn’t sugar coating anything. 👍🏻
SS was not Jens b/f. A lady spoke out last night who said she rented d a room from Jen when Maddie was age 7. She knew Jen was totally into LBGQ . She was gay or bi. I don’t know or can’t remember why SS was at Jens house? SS saiid he lived half at Jen’s house and half at his parents house. Not her b/f makes me wonder if they weren’t dating why he spent half his time there? Until I read last night on another channel can’t remember which one bc I was on so many I thought he was her b/f.
Wow, he was living both at his mom’s house and Jen Soto’s house, too? What a grifter and loser…..can’t believe that Jen Soto would allow him to sleep in the same bed with the daughter UGH……story is getting creepier by the moment 😮.
Jen Soto was desperate. She let this leach who didn’t bring anything to the table at her house when he wasn’t living with mommy and daddy plus she let him sleep in the bed alone with Madeline. Please bring this woman up on charges. She is just a horrible, horrible, horrible guardian and parent, I normally try to reserve judgment but this is just too far. Not normal at all
Not normal behaviour whatsoever, like wth ??? She must be a child in a woman’s body too to do that or so over it that she allowed this to happen because she chose her ‘BOYFRIEND ‘ over her own ‘CHILD ‘ 😡😡😡”!
He said they got started early, got up at 7:15 am, left at 7:35 am because she wanted MacDonalds, but didn't her mother say she saw her getting dressed at 8am?!!!!!!!
The Pedo had to use Maddies corpse to full her mom, and then he had planned how to not get caught out outside. CTI cameras every outside. This pedo understands this. This is why he came back twice to the apartment. Fool mom, then try and fool the law. lies lies lies. To many for the pedo to possibly remember
🤢🤢🤢I just heard him say his parents live on Snug st in North Port Florida. That is only 5.9 miles from my house. To think he was at the same wal-mart as me and my grandkids gives me the creeps
I think the only thing mom is guilty of is being too detached and unaware of what was going on with her child and in her home. Unfortunately, that isn't a crime. I know people say because she misspoke saying "we" took her to school in her interview means guilt, but in the same interview she corrected herself, saying it was him who took her. She was in distress and is probably used to saying we a lot. We tend to want to blame everyone who could have prevented this tragic murder, and the mom is a huge target, but she won't be charged. I do not believe she was privy to anything that was happening. She will live in a self-loathing prison for it for the rest of her life, I am sure. A prison of guilt of knowing she could have done better.
@wildflowerhoneyhomestead watch some of her TV news interviews again. She lied repeatedly. Plus she had broken up with Stephan several times and yet he was free to come and go as he pleased. And this abuse started when she was 8. Jen did not protect her daughter. She had a mom living and working nearby. I think many of us have tried to give her some grace but the more info that comes out makes me think she helped SS cover up.
The new reports says Jen said under oath " It was normal for ALL to sleep in same bed & sometimes when her anxiety was high & she needed to sleep she would tell Maddie & him to sleep in another bed" Im sorry what!!! 😡 he said " Oh maddie could only go sleep with human contact we would call it "Snuggling" these 2 make me feel physically sick 🤮😡
She said this under questioning by police but after being read her Miranda rights. . Under oath is when you swear under oath in court to tell the truth.
This would be odd for a biological, overly coddling father to a princess to do. You don’t sleep in a bed with your own daughter unless she’s young and sick or requests someone or some genuine reason. Most dudes don’t wanna sleep in a bed with anyone, so him - not even being a step father, but a bf - doing so blatantly with her mom not gaf is disgustingly heinous. Even if he hadn’t killed her, he likely damaged her life profoundly. Why were they so out in the open with their inappropriate behavior? Did neither realize how insane the either one sounds and is?
I mean someone with adhd (if she does have it) might not know how to get home, BUT she would know the address for sure I think . I’m adhd and have terrible navigation skills (I think it’s a result of it) , but I always knew my address and phone number as a kid, I don’t buy those claims either tbh 🤨
@@FabiolaRVela💯It's very strange, highly unlikely and not even believable. My teen and I both have adhd and while my sense of direction is terrible but I also have dyslexia, hers is brilliant. Any young child can recite their address let alone a teenager. It would not have been difficult to know the general direction or have a basic idea how to get home.
I don't think she knew, I bet he was worried about her telling, and when he got there he probably harmed her, she just turned 13 and said that's it I'm telling mom this time, and he unalived her, got up before Jen, said he was taking her out for a birthday breakfast and put her in the car before Jen got up.
@@hoosierpete If you know your child you are aware and sensitive to behavior.. Why would someone still be in contact with your child if your not still dating? The mother knew and will be charged accordingly.
Yep she knew. In situations like these, individuals are so depraved. Greed being a byproduct of these types, I imagine they were making money off of the images and video on the dark web
Literally have been waiting for anything about the Soto case from you because I knew there was gonna be a lot. Love your coverage. With those “sleeping arrangements” they’re gonna tear Jen Soto apart.
I don't know, Michael Jackson slept with a lot of kids and it worked out fine for him. 😑 But this guy isn't exactly a celebrity so I doubt it'll work out quite so well.
@@TheAstrofromspace well u don’t get punished for being a bad judge of character especially after knowing the person for 7 years. He had no record,, she won’t be charged, she will live with guilt like her father will also
OMG, that went straight over my head, as well as him talking about her in past tense, which another commenter had posted right before I read your post. Wow... just WOW! I hope he gets served some prison justice while in general population, before he finally gets sent to death row. Florida has a habit of sending these sick men AND women straight to death row when a child is involved, especially by a parent. I can't believe how many cases have come up over the past few years of parents murdering their babies in the States. The Ohio man who shot and killed his 3 boys a year ago, the Ohio mom who left her 14 or 16 month old baby girl unattended for 10 days to visit her boyfriend in Michigan before flying off to the Carribean. All the while the next door neighbours heard that baby crying for DAYS withouy contacting the police. Everyone seems to have lost their minds. That was a horrendous death and so painful according to the Medical Examiner. My god, the list goes on and on. Even here in England, we've also had an abnormally high number of these same types of killings. It's soul crushing to hear about so many. Oh no, I'm really sorry for my long rant! Take care.
Madeline rebuffed further advances after the drugs wore off. He realizes she can no longer be controlled easily. … At that time we had alotta time to kill … (his own words) He had time to make a UTurn, and didn’t. RIP 💔🤍☮️
Absolutely horrific the life little Madeleine was living. My heart breaks for her. She had no one to turn to because her own mother was so blinded. When you have scars from your own trauma you need to be careful with your children. I am so sorry Maddie. You deserved better.
There were signs this man was a sicko, as a mom we always have our gut instinct. She allowed this to happen right in front of her eyes and should pay for that
She really wanted to get to school while she was sleeping she would've went to McDonald's if she was sleeping cause it would buy her more sleep time.... she certainly wouldn't have turned down McDonald's and asked to walk an abnormal distance.... yeah he told these detectives everything they needed to know......
Only reason I'd consider it pheasable, in the slightest is because she didn't want to be around him longer than she had too.. but they're saying she was already gone.. so its blatant lies.
Can I just say THANK YOU FOR creating the full Playlist so that ppl like me who are behind can get caught up ! I am seriously hoping I can find your channel in podcast format later as well ty❤
Thank you for this early morning update, G. It is so painful to hear his voice. And to listen how he explains things that did not happen. Justice for Madeline!
To be fair, my son would often get up around 7.10 and be on his minibus (that picked up from our door) at 7.25, and he'd even manage breakfast in that time 😆 He just preferred his sleep and was happier to race around for his bus 🤷🏻♀️
Idk i used to get ready for school pretty fast. Id usually have my outfit already picked out. Especially if I was told we could stop for breakfast. I find it more weird that they got up early to go get ‘breakfast’ and then she didn’t even want the breakfast. Why would she agree to getting up at 7 when school doesn’t start until close to 9:30 to get breakfast and then not want the breakfast. And even then mcdonalds is quick so leaving that early still seems weird to me. Thats 2 hours before school for a 30 minute breakfast and 30 minutes is generous if you’re going through the drive thru.
He is so detailed about insignificant details, yet "isn't sure" about important details. Like, I would know exactly where I dropped my kid off, I know exactly what they had on if I dropped them off, they both left their phones, yet he had to go back for the "clicker" but didn't grab their phones? Guilty.
May she rest in peace and love. And may her life carry on in purpose. I pray these cases even help one mother protect her children from these predators!
Right! Going through a play by play of his morning and conveniently forgets going all the way back to the house until he backed in a corner. Forgets going back for the clicker but remembers joking about her crocs and her fumbling through her backpack? Blames it on not being a morning person?? He seems to be leaving out important details but remembering things that have zero relevance. Obviously it’s all lies and so rehearsed that it’s bad. Im wondering if he knew how shit his story sounded or if he thought his sad worried tone helped him sound like a grieving parent. The end really got me though he slipped up quite a bit using past tense when talking about her. He said “she WAS a good kid” and “i LOVED her like my own” quite the slip of the tongue.
@@502Louisviille420You listen to all his past friends talk about him they say he’s not the sharpest tool. A very dumb man actually! I thought when he said he went to the vape shop early but they were closed… like they won’t check the surveillance tape. He simply doesn’t think his story through He dumping her backpack in the dumpster of their apt complex w/ cams ahead in plain view is still unbelievable
@@shaheedharun445 yeah definitely not the brightest. I think its because it wasn’t planned. I think he snapped or killed her accidentally and was scrambling because he had so much to do in a short period of time but still also had to do other things to form an alibi. The flat tire also didn’t help. That took up some time and if her body was in the car still that would have definitely caused him more panic.
She KNEW as soon as he said he factory updated it that she needed to get that phone to a professional IMMEDIATELY to see what they can get off of it and boy was her gut feeling right about that phone.
He arrived at Maddie’s house on Sunday evening, making sure she did her “nighttime routine,” while waiting for her mother to come home. What do you think the nighttime routine involved? 🥺
Sick! I have the hunch that the mother was in on it! A strange man or even a father should not be sleeping in the same bed where there’s a child that age… I mean when they are babies is one thing… even then… it’s disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!! RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
@@andreaschultz4552 I'm the mother of a daughter. I never had a man in my bed when she was growing up. I can't believe her mother was okay with that. It's something no normal mother would tolerate.
I am glad these detectives or whoever they were, kept him talking. He is despicable!! Rasberry chhes danish he brought with him yet still went past Mc Donalds twice?? While he claims Madeline was sleeping?
He hurt his hand because he got a flat while she was still in the car, that's why he dumped her where he did, he panicked seen a row of trees, pulled in drug her out, and went down the road as far as he could before stopping to change the tire, which wasn't far. He tried to change the tire fast and pinched his hand.
Yeah I think the tire was unexpected. Some have said it was planned but i agree it wasn’t. He wouldn’t have wanted to be seen so close to where he left her.
I think he drove through the gate and got the flat tire from the terrain. He wouldn't have carried her across the road from where he was pulled over changing the tire. The hurt hand could be a wound from Maddie defending herself. The whole thing is gut wrenching.
The fact he even mentions her menstrual cycle makes me sick. How she comes to him for comfort and sings for him. My heart breaks for her , her mother and family failed her 💔
@@larserna yes! He’s a creep. Why is her cycle in the forefront of his mind when talking about her missing? Why is he worried about her cycle in first place? SMH She had no privacy or protection in that house so sad 😞
What does eighty six it mean? Eighty-six is slang meaning "to throw out," "to get rid of," or "to refuse service to." It comes from 1930s soda-counter slang meaning that an item was sold out.
He was trying to be nonchalant. The term is used in the restaurant industry when an item is sold out. He said she 86’d the idea to eat McDonald’s, meaning no longer wanted it, which clearly was a bold faced lie. He thinks he’s smarter than the cops.
If Stephan factory reset his phone the morning or afternoon before it would still show all the calls made & received after that. Isn't that the day Maddy went missing? He said he called or texted Jen to say he was late getting back to pick up Maddy with her. He also said he was calling a bunch of people to see if they had seen Maddy. How could he do this without his contacts? His excuses are so horrible & obvious!! Justice for Maddy ❤ Thanks G for staying up so late to go through this interview with us.
I never bought into the pregnancy rumors in this case, but it definitely raised a 🚩 for me that he took the time to mention that she recently started her period. It is interesting how that is at the forefront of his mind 🤔
She could have just told him she was pregnant... maybe so he'd take pity and stop? I don't know. Speculating... but I feel so bad for this little girl. This guy is a creep.
After almost every sentence he says, “maybe” or “I think?” It doesn’t take an expert to hear that even he is not sure about his story. Not only that but any innocent person who cared about the missing child would say, “Why are you spending all this time asking me questions!?! Get out there and look for her!” Or “You can look at my phone all you want but PLEASE let me go out and search! I’m worried!” But nope… just casually “answering” questions. Also ALSO why would you “tranquilize” yourself out of commission when you’re worried about a kid MISSING? I understand being worried sick, but wouldn’t you want to be coherent in case that child showed up? It’s all SO whack! He had to knock himself out because he knew where Maddy was and what he did to her.
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:00 Details from documents
00:05:00 The victim was slumped over in the front passenger seat
00:07:25 Sterns says the three slept in the bed together
00:08:50 Map time
00:12:05 Interview with police, February 27th 2024
01:20:20 Debrief and Outro
FULL CASE PLAYLIST: th-cam.com/play/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ.html
He talks too much, adding on to his answers exstensively.
That is new to me that is so despicable that her mother allowed him to sleep in the bed with them disgusting
@@susankennedy7280wow. What is wrong with her mom? Did he say that? 🤮 I can’t stand him.
86 originally was used for burials in cemeteries: 8’ x 6’. Then evolved to just 86 meaning “not alive”…using this in restaurant terminology would mean that the customer is modifying the order (no ketchup = “86 ketchup”).
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Yeah they were supposed to be broke up, but Jenn said in her interview that she didn't take Maddie to school that was her partner. Lies all lies!
Sterns voice. He is trying to appear so soft spoken and non threatening. Everything about him is repellent.
I’ve been trying to listen to the replay as I turned off the love and I can’t stand it
Agree, I started listening and almost turned it off instantly. Thr voice is gross, typical groomer voice🤮
I can hear him talking to her in the same whiney voice to get her to "help" him.
@@psalmbird6187unfortunately, my thoughts wondered there as well as I was first listening to him. I was curious if anyone was creeped out by this thought as well. 🤮
Sounds whiny, wimpy and like nails across a chalkboard.
NO ONE gets up early rushes out of the house THEN drives around killing time only to be dropped off an hour early for school. NO ONE
Exactly!!
Especially not teens
That alone made absolutely no sense…and she was sleeping in the car. Don’t you think she would have preferred to stay in bed a little longer than to be dropped off so early for school. He’s screwed anyway and I hope it is the death penalty. Skip the trial and go straight to sentencing.
SPOT ON!!
Period!
Some of these “mothers” need to start being held accountable.
Period.
A million times yes, she was as much at fault for her daughter’s abuse as the abuser himself.
So agree with you
Yep something needs to change the mothers who are their guardian’s are 100% responsible
She doesn't deserve to be called "mother" she knows much more than she will admit
When I think about it, I never even sat on my parents bed, maybe at 4 or 5..my mom let me crawl on her side after a nightmare, but only fir a few minutes..it is totally weird that the mom let her sleep w her bf
He’s not a morning person , and unemployed but woke up extra early to take her to school and drive around aimlessly, twice around McDonalds ?
He's not a morning person, and they were both half asleep. But they rushed to get out the door early to go to McDonald's, but then they didn't go to McDonald's. She "poo poo'd" the idea. I'm sorry. WHAT? Makes no sense at all!!!!!
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Unemployed, mooching off the mother while grooming the daughter. Just sickening.
She didn’t want McDonald’s anymore … 😥🚩🚩🚩
That female detective isn’t buying a word.
Yes you hear that tone in her voice as she asks questions. Probably dying to get away from the smell of BS. As soon as realised he had little info/ call data etc on his phone and told her he did the factory reset. That is the sudden realisation that his story is not adding up.
@@deborahhenderson149 and his lame excuse for going back to pick up his gate opener. But not Maddie’s phone that she left at home?
@@TheTroothseekr she doesn’t even care about rapport with him. ❤️
@@TheTroothseekr or his phone
"I don't want McDonald's" said no 13 year old ever. :(
Is there even a McDonald's on the way to the school?
My thoughts exactly. My daughters would wake up at 5am if it meant we could stop for McDonald's breakfast.
What the hell are feeding your kids if that is what they look forward to at age 13?!!! That's normal for a 5 year old, but if your child still wants that at 13, you're feeding them crap and not teaching them about actual food.
@@lisao6928a lot of teenagers want fast food no matter what time of day. Not all households take the time to do a hot breakfast either (just cereal), and a McDonalds breakfast sandwich would be like a treat. There are many scenarios where a 13 year old would want that….that being said, he is lying about the whole thing so it’s a moot point.
But settled for a raspberry and cheese danish!! If he was so hungry, why didn’t he eat the danish? He tried to convince her to eat McD’s. Liar!!
Her mother let maddie sleep alone in the same bed as him arrest her now
According to a former roommate the mom was a 'bisexual spicy Latina'... She probably participated....yuck.
DISCUSTING
Where did you hear that? I must’ve missed that part. Wow. Unbelievable.
Horrible. Maddie was truly living in a house of horrors. 😢
@@nightwithout-stars1951
It's not on here, but yes in another report when they interviewed Jennifer she admitted that if she was having a difficult time with her anxiety instead of them all three sleeping together she would make Stepan and Maddie sleep in another bedroom together so that she could get a good night of sleep. What type of mother even thinks about putting her 12 or 13 year old in the same bed with her and her boyfriend. I had heard Jennifer's roommate in an interview talk about Jennifer liked men and women for her sexual partners, I pray to God that they weren't having threesomes and that Jennifer wasn't having sex with her own daughter in her bed at the same time she was having sex with SS.
The mother should be charged. She did not protect her child. The man is so creepy who would like to be his girlfriend.
Have some compassion, she lost her daughter by a psychopath, its all good saying who would go out with him but they don't come inside your home making it obvious they are a predator. They wear the mask of sanity, many of intelligent woman men work colleagues, friends, uncles, brothers, sisters are fooled every day by their mask. U could know one. If his own parents didnt know, his mates, his family, then how is a lady who only new him 6 years going to know..psychopaths want keep u in the dark untill they don't. That girl wouldn't have known he was a monster until the day he showed himself..
To be honest and not too unkind, I don't think she is very bright, to say the least. She could also be easily manipulated, depending on her past experiences. We just don't know for certain at this point.
I can, sadly, see him manipulating Maddy, using his disgusting photos of her to make her tell her mom that she's too frightened to go sleep by herself and that she needs him (the monster) to be there for her, to help her. God, that is so cruel and evil, on top of everything else.
Or maybe her mom is truly willfully ignorant. There are so many facets to these horrendous crimes. I'm not at all wanting to excuse her behaviour, but only to give allowances for how things could have gone so terribly wrong.
That poor dear child. I hope he gets prison justice before he gets moved to the more secure Death Row wing. Florida does NOT play games with child preditors/murderers! When a child predator is in general population, that's when just about 💯% of prison justice gets dealt out.
So, here's to hoping for that, and swiftly 🥂 🤞
@@Julia-uh4liI agree .. she doesn’t seem “ all there “
@Julia-uh4li -- All that sounds like excuses.
The mother Jen doesn’t sound too bright.
How dare he speak about her this way, What a vile, despicable person.
Seriously, everytime we hear of a case like this my thoughts are “WHO IN THE EFF DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE A LIFE!!!”
No kid that woke up early for McDonald's has ever 86'd going to Mc Donald's.
Jen was there . She never speaks of this McDonalds trip .
His way of speaking is just as atrocious as he is. It’s juvenile I’m a cool kid but not bc I’m really stupid!
I've never experienced a kid 86ing macdonalds even if they just ate a full English.
He's such a whiner: haven't eaten, can't sleep, took tranquilizers, took Ativan & conked out, crying, help my parents, yapping dogs drive me nuts, had to get away from chaos, not a morning person, whiney cracking voice.. trying to remember... leaking his truth several times: "we had time to KILL..." several times! 😢
He had to kill time after killing her…
Agree his whiny little voice. He is so full of 💩
Notice he was only looking for sympathy and understanding from the female officer. He wasn't doing the 'poor me' routine with the male officer when she left the room for a few minutes. This makes me think this man has preyed on females for a very long time. I have no doubt at all that it will be revealed that Maddie wasn't his only victim!
Oh I just said the same thing!! He’s so pathetic is sickening
I agree, I also thoroughly believe that he is attempting to divert the females attention from what she was looking at in his phone ..
The lady cop interviewing him is sharp! She did a great job
She knows!
Yep! You can hear it in her voice. SHE KNOWS!
She was not having him.
Thought the same
She’s over it! You can hear it. 🤮
She WAS happy; I LOVED her like she WAS my own. All past tense. Huge red flag!
Yup past tense is a big tell
A whole lot of passed tense.. and that entire interview was a giant red flag
Ahole ...ugh! ..."like he was his own." He's disgusting, he was abusing/violating her and acted like a severely pathogenic monster.
@@tinazaccagna1459That filthy beast needs to be transformed to the 'past tense' state of existence.
🚩biggest we’ve ever seen 🚩
💔 “watching her in my rear view mirror”
…. 🔥in he!!
A pure monster!
The mother is too!! She knew everything!!
Mom let her baby access to this monster to sexual abuse Mattie Jen knows a lot more than she says
Jenn was turning a blind eye at best, and poor Maddie, she was just stuck. If she didn't do exactly as she was told, he'd probably have told her hed show the people she loved most, all those secret photos or videos he took of her doing those things with him. The level of manipulation would have been enough to break anyone, let alone poor little13 year old Maddie, she was really stuck going along with him out of sheer terror. I've seen this once before with my childhood bestie in the 70s. I just happened to see something I wasn't supposed to see and she begged me, with tears streaming down her face, not to ever tell anyone what I'd seen, which was her, dressed in her mothers sexy nightgown, in her mom's bedroom with the nasty old lawn mowing guy. While her moms was at work. I saw this through her moms bedroom window. I knew well enough to peek because he showed up while I was visiting her. He came to the door and asked if he could use her phone. She told me the only phone he could use was in her moms bedroom. There was one right next to me in the LIVINGROOM!Then she asked to me please leave. That's when I went around the back of their house to look inside.
Hell, she had ME terrified as well, for her safety. After a month or so, she withdrew from me & every single classmate she was friends with. We were in the 5th grade. I now wish I'd been able to go behind her back and scream what I'd seen to every adult I knew. I'm still raw with the knowledge of that day. Like a deep wound that can't ever heal. I wonder often if she's even still alive now. Many of these victims self delete. So I can fully understand the level of manipulation an adult can lay on a child. It's truly evil. I say that not as a Christian who believes in such things, but it's a very fitting word for such cruelty a person can do. Wow, I think this I the first time I've ever shared that story. Sorry for the long winded rant.
Maddies story really hit a nerve with me, deeply. Of anyone made it this far, dang, thank you for reading 💛
The female officer didn't believe a word. You could tell
Yep I love when she got him unlock the phone then says ok I'm taking your phone 😂😂😂 She knew
She's really just saying "We got you"
@@myaleah80able her clipped tone ..“mmh,hmm!”
I know and I LOVE HER
Right! And u can hear the distain in her voice!! Love it!
Omg the female officer knew IMMEDIATELY after he mentioned the phone reset, her attitude did a quick 180!
Yep, the ending was hilarious when she started getting short with him 😂
Yep can you u lock your phone for me again....ok I'm keeping your phone 😂😂I
It's the fake 'caring'in his voice which makes me so irritated 😡
It’s revolting.
Repulsive
Yes! The fake crying when he was on the news was sending me to new levels of rage 🤬
I can’t stand his whispering like voice, his face and his lizard eyes .
110% !!!!!
He should NOT have known she "hit puberty ". Disgusting
Why do we always have to hear the culprit’s life story? “I have rolling anxiety attacks, I’m not a morning person…, I’m not good with directions, blah blah blah”. 🤢😩🤨🤢 It’s almost a sure sign of guilt!
They only think of themselves and that is why we are here, and Maddie is gone.
He tries to make himself appear weak and not a threat to anyone....his sniveling whiny voice he puts on to try and garner sympathy. Repulsive
“She WAS a happy girl” “she WAS looking forward to my visit” “I loved her like she was my own” …. Past tense wow.
YES I'm sure that cop was like what? Did he just say 😮
@@lizl2432 he’s disgusting
@@lizl2432 He’a remarkably disgusting…Saying she “couldn’t go to sleep without human touch…” did he think the detectives would believe that ?
It’s gross that he mentioned her period and blamed her for PMS. What a loser!
I know that stuck out to me when he said that, so nauseating 🤮.
Yes The Creep tracked her period for a reason.
@@MicrowaveCheese33 exactly what I was thinking, he probably knew her cycle better than she did.
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@@Lighthouse6104The filthy, repulsive beast should be discontinued.
WHERE 👏🏼 IS 👏🏼 JENN 👏🏼 SOTOS 👏🏼 INTERVIEW ?!
@@chloecrandell it’s up now
That MOTHER OF MADDIE needs to be arrested please! SHE KNEW IT ALL
Props to LE for keeping their cool. I would have lost my stuff. How do they do it?? Special people. Thank you LE!!
He’s disgusting! He says “puberty not long ago”…. Only her mama should know personal details like that about her.
Yes that’s CREEPY, he’s not her dad 🤮
💯
I respectfully disagree. The start of puberty in girls is visually pretty obvious. It doesn’t bother me that he noticed, but it does bother me that he brought it up at all.
They were too comfortable with a lot of things being shared. GROSS BEHAVIOR.
Right? When SS said about Madie having PMS oh and her mom too... what? What's he know anything about that?
Mom.needs arrested!
She sure does 😢
I agree! It’s sad because you can still get away with being stupid. Maddie’s mother should go to jail for thinking to bring a strange man and your daughter into one bed. How Gross! He’s out of touch with reality. Playing to many games!
She's going to play like she's crazy and unstable. Either way arrest her, enabler! Disgusting excuse for a mother
Could anyone imagine "losing" a 13 year old girl so you take a bunch of drugs and "zonk" out instead of searching for her?
That's just insane isn't it! He doesn't even make it make sense.
Shaking my head and crying
@user-ei4ty3xq9dthat's what it sounded like to me
He’s more interested in sleeping than finding her.
@@alfonzo7822these murderers NEVER do. They can never weave together a coherent, consistent lie to tell cops. They always either fuck it up, or like stearns, are so dumb that they somehow connect odd bits and pieces and make it into a coherent story/narrative. Problem is we can see (hear) just how out of place these connectors are in regards to their story. They make it overly complicated and full of shit that makes no sense with what they’re trying to sell as what they did. It’s obvious, to him him though, he never realizes how contradicting every detail he just gave was. Moron
The part that gets me is he really thought he was gonna get away this. Thank God for his stupidity.
I grew up in Hunters Creek in Kissimmee. My parents still have their house there. It’s a huge development with upscale houses and condos. Never expected something like this to happen in a place I considered safe. Sadly the community was much more helpful in honoring her memory than her own mother. The people here are still torn and want Jennifer to be held accountable. At least for her negligence if nothing else. She didn’t stand up for her daughter when she was with us, the least she could do now is show her face in the name of her daughter!
Yes cuz every child that needs skin contact with somebody while they're sleeping at night is going to be very confident and convincing that they want to be dropped off in the middle of nowhere and an hour and a half before school ALONE
A kid refusing breakfast from McDonald’s? Humm!
Ikr?
That really don't make sense!
You can't eat a Big Mac when your body is DEAD.
that statement, of course, is a lie.
This man is soooo sick!!
Not likely !!!
Thought the same thing
Ugh. His voice creeps me out.
Did he say he shares a bed with Maddie and her mother… wth was her mother thinking… Jenn soto needs her head screwing back on.
🤢 Yes 😱🥹
SHE'S AN IDIOT. SHE NEEDS TO DO TIME IN PRISON..AND IF THE DEATH PENALTY..IS ON THE TABLE THEY BOTH NEED..TO BE PROSECUTED..😭😱
Ummmm what? That's called unconsumated incest if it was unconsumated.
She needs jail time...weak ass woman, who couldn't see past, "having a man", that she didn't think at all of her daughter's safety...poor, poor, poor Maddie!!...this is just heartbreaking!!
Right what 13 year old sleeps with their mom and stepdad
“She was so happy”. “I loved her like she was my own”. All past tense!
Why would any mother ask their boyfriend to go sleep in bed with daughter?
Why should a man even agree to that, unless….? DISGUSTING
Why would he also show up hours *after* her birthday party?
He fails to talk about her in the present tense A LOT! Good catch G👍
Ugh, I thought it was so creepy when he mentioned her menstrual cycle. Justice for Maddie. 😢
I haven't made it that far into this podcast, but your comment made me shudder. He is an absolute horror.
Me too why should he know about the child so intimately.
Depends…I was always very, very sick. Everyone in the house knew because I would throw up for many hours every 28 days. 8 P
Especially since he can't remember roads but mentions that..
Strange. My father really didn't know that.
His voice is sickening!
I’m going down there to visit my mother in 2 weeks and I plan to go pay my respects to sweet little Maddy. Poor angel.
WOW..THAT'S AWESOME..👍👋💯💥
Thank you
Yes I just came to Florida I’m going by there to pay respect to our Maddie 🩷 and meet up with her advocate
@@Jacqueline_Resin_Crafter I love that.
Is there anybody to get a hold of down there so I can purchase something to donate to her memorial? I’m from Ohio and want to add to her growing memorial Justice for Maddie 🫶
I’m sure at the time of this interview the police were on to him but the female cop cannot hide her disdain for him. She is so short with him and isn’t sugar coating anything. 👍🏻
That female detective knocked his confidence down about 10 notches lmao! Not so confident now are ya!! She was excellent
How could he have called her apologizing profusely that he‘d be late when she didn’t bring her phone?
Mom was so desperate for a boyfriend that she allowed all of this to happen. She should be charged as well.
SS was not Jens b/f. A lady spoke out last night who said she rented d a room from Jen when Maddie was age 7. She knew Jen was totally into LBGQ . She was gay or bi. I don’t know or can’t remember why SS was at Jens house? SS saiid he lived half at Jen’s house and half at his parents house. Not her b/f makes me wonder if they weren’t dating why he spent half his time there? Until I read last night on another channel can’t remember which one bc I was on so many I thought he was her b/f.
@@TEBme-sf1itsure sounds like he used her for her daughter which is obviously nauseating
Jenn got the $ for the room. Ss daddy paid the rent. Jenn rented 3 bedrooms...so maybe 1800/month.
49:48 She HAD her school laptop with her.
Yeah she's stupid too,.... My question is.....WTF, DO YOU NEED HELP WITH YOUR ONLY CHILD????????????, JENN???????
Wow, he was living both at his mom’s house and Jen Soto’s house, too? What a grifter and loser…..can’t believe that Jen Soto would allow him to sleep in the same bed with the daughter UGH……story is getting creepier by the moment 😮.
Tthe mum allowed it because she is as sick as Stern.
She should be arrested for allowing him to sleep with her daughter
Ugh, I thought it was just a rumor. Wtf was going on in that house!?
Jen Soto was desperate. She let this leach who didn’t bring anything to the table at her house when he wasn’t living with mommy and daddy plus she let him sleep in the bed alone with Madeline. Please bring this woman up on charges. She is just a horrible, horrible, horrible guardian and parent, I normally try to reserve judgment but this is just too far. Not normal at all
Not normal behaviour whatsoever, like wth ???
She must be a child in a woman’s body too to do that or so over it that she allowed this to happen because she chose her ‘BOYFRIEND ‘ over her own ‘CHILD ‘
😡😡😡”!
He said they got started early, got up at 7:15 am, left at 7:35 am because she wanted MacDonalds, but didn't her mother say she saw her getting dressed at 8am?!!!!!!!
Her mother knows she wasn't alive in my opinion. She was caught in several lies and then ran to a treatment centre to avoid backlash.
The Pedo had to use Maddies corpse to full her mom, and then he had planned how to not get caught out outside. CTI cameras every outside. This pedo understands this. This is why he came back twice to the apartment. Fool mom, then try and fool the law. lies lies lies. To many for the pedo to possibly remember
Also, wasn’t he called to take Maddie to school because her mother was tired? They gave the impression that he did not sleep at the condo?
Mommy Dearest should be arrested.
@@kweenz109is she in a treatment center? What kind of treatment center?
🤢🤢🤢I just heard him say his parents live on Snug st in North Port Florida. That is only 5.9 miles from my house. To think he was at the same wal-mart as me and my grandkids gives me the creeps
......😱
*_CREEPY!_*
his reddit &
the phone interviews w/childhood “friend” and other are wild too. and the delving into his family dynamic was a treat.
He says he cleaned up the house a little bit.He cleaned up evidence.That's what he did
Watching on replay. Mom needs to be charged. He is so disgusting.
Posted the same before I seen your post! No way she didn’t know something!
I think the only thing mom is guilty of is being too detached and unaware of what was going on with her child and in her home. Unfortunately, that isn't a crime. I know people say because she misspoke saying "we" took her to school in her interview means guilt, but in the same interview she corrected herself, saying it was him who took her. She was in distress and is probably used to saying we a lot. We tend to want to blame everyone who could have prevented this tragic murder, and the mom is a huge target, but she won't be charged. I do not believe she was privy to anything that was happening. She will live in a self-loathing prison for it for the rest of her life, I am sure. A prison of guilt of knowing she could have done better.
@@brookeburkettofficial she said she Maddie getting ready for school that morning, which isn't possible. She's a liar.
@wildflowerhoneyhomestead watch some of her TV news interviews again. She lied repeatedly. Plus she had broken up with Stephan several times and yet he was free to come and go as he pleased. And this abuse started when she was 8. Jen did not protect her daughter. She had a mom living and working nearby. I think many of us have tried to give her some grace but the more info that comes out makes me think she helped SS cover up.
@@brookeburkettofficial I disagree. To be that checked out is neglectful
The new reports says Jen said under oath " It was normal for ALL to sleep in same bed & sometimes when her anxiety was high & she needed to sleep she would tell Maddie & him to sleep in another bed" Im sorry what!!! 😡 he said " Oh maddie could only go sleep with human contact we would call it "Snuggling" these 2 make me feel physically sick 🤮😡
“Sleep in” drug$
She said this under questioning by police but after being read her Miranda rights. . Under oath is when you swear under oath in court to tell the truth.
This would be odd for a biological, overly coddling father to a princess to do. You don’t sleep in a bed with your own daughter unless she’s young and sick or requests someone or some genuine reason. Most dudes don’t wanna sleep in a bed with anyone, so him - not even being a step father, but a bf - doing so blatantly with her mom not gaf is disgustingly heinous. Even if he hadn’t killed her, he likely damaged her life profoundly. Why were they so out in the open with their inappropriate behavior? Did neither realize how insane the either one sounds and is?
I didn’t sleep for nearly 3 WEEKS when my son went missing! Even sleeping tablets had a reverse effect! What !!!!
He’s the ‘I need my inhaler’ guy…’there’s too much dust in my prison cell I am getting the sniffles’ just SUCH a worm. 🤢
According to Jenn Soto, Maddie did not know her address. What 13 year old does not know their address?
I mean someone with adhd (if she does have it) might not know how to get home, BUT she would know the address for sure I think . I’m adhd and have terrible navigation skills (I think it’s a result of it) , but I always knew my address and phone number as a kid, I don’t buy those claims either tbh 🤨
Exactly! When my children started kindergarten they already knew their address, phone number, parents names, etc.
@@FabiolaRVela💯It's very strange, highly unlikely and not even believable. My teen and I both have adhd and while my sense of direction is terrible but I also have dyslexia, hers is brilliant. Any young child can recite their address let alone a teenager. It would not have been difficult to know the general direction or have a basic idea how to get home.
It has been decades since I had kids that age but I don’t remember if my kids knew their address, but I could see how that could be true.
He used the kill word so Lant times. Ugh
It's so sad.That poor babygirl didn't have a chance.That mom had to know
I don't think she knew, I bet he was worried about her telling, and when he got there he probably harmed her, she just turned 13 and said that's it I'm telling mom this time, and he unalived her, got up before Jen, said he was taking her out for a birthday breakfast and put her in the car before Jen got up.
How out of touch was the Mom? For 7 years this monster was in Madeline's life. Abusing her the entire time! 🤬
@@hoosierpete If you know your child you are aware and sensitive to behavior.. Why would someone still be in contact with your child if your not still dating? The mother knew and will be charged accordingly.
I think Jen was actively participating.
Yep she knew. In situations like these, individuals are so depraved. Greed being a byproduct of these types, I imagine they were making money off of the images and video on the dark web
Literally have been waiting for anything about the Soto case from you because I knew there was gonna be a lot. Love your coverage. With those “sleeping arrangements” they’re gonna tear Jen Soto apart.
I don't know, Michael Jackson slept with a lot of kids and it worked out fine for him. 😑 But this guy isn't exactly a celebrity so I doubt it'll work out quite so well.
Shame on you Jen for allowing that! I hope u get some kind of punishment as well! You were supposed to protect her!!🤬😡😡
@@TheAstrofromspace well u don’t get punished for being a bad judge of character especially after knowing the person for 7 years. He had no record,, she won’t be charged, she will live with guilt like her father will also
So he’s supposedly just driving around doing circles back & forth to McDonald’s, but NEVER ONCE actually going to McDonald’s!! 👌🤦♀️👌
No teenage girl is going to forget her phone when leaving home. His picture should not even be posted on these videos, what a creep!
He's so creepy I can tell he thinks he's being cute or clever and just thinking what an invasive over baring creep he is gives me the eebeejeebees
It’s terrifying to hear him say they had time to kill…
OMG, that went straight over my head, as well as him talking about her in past tense, which another commenter had posted right before I read your post.
Wow... just WOW! I hope he gets served some prison justice while in general population, before he finally gets sent to death row. Florida has a habit of sending these sick men AND women straight to death row when a child is involved, especially by a parent.
I can't believe how many cases have come up over the past few years of parents murdering their babies in the States. The Ohio man who shot and killed his 3 boys a year ago, the Ohio mom who left her 14 or 16 month old baby girl unattended for 10 days to visit her boyfriend in Michigan before flying off to the Carribean. All the while the next door neighbours heard that baby crying for DAYS withouy contacting the police. Everyone seems to have lost their minds. That was a horrendous death and so painful according to the Medical Examiner. My god, the list goes on and on. Even here in England, we've also had an abnormally high number of these same types of killings. It's soul crushing to hear about so many.
Oh no, I'm really sorry for my long rant!
Take care.
He says “she wasn’t having it” which I believe holds more meaning to than what he means
Madeline rebuffed further advances after the drugs wore off.
He realizes she can no longer be controlled easily. …
At that time we had alotta time to kill … (his own words)
He had time to make a UTurn, and didn’t.
RIP 💔🤍☮️
Absolutely horrific the life little Madeleine was living. My heart breaks for her. She had no one to turn to because her own mother was so blinded. When you have scars from your own trauma you need to be careful with your children. I am so sorry Maddie. You deserved better.
He’s having trouble recollecting ……what happened yesterday!! It’s crazy!
And it's a MAJOR life event!
I truly believe Jennifer Soto will be charged as accessory n failure to protect n report a child
We can only hope
I truly don’t think she will. She’s in a mental hospital
@@IndigoCave28 I was wondering why there hasn't been any sightings of her, where did you see she's in a mental hospital??
Please let that be so.
Gave Mom the benefit of the doubt. I'm done. Jail. UNDERNEATH the jail. Thank you. Next. So done. That poor, poor baby.
I said the same!
There were signs this man was a sicko, as a mom we always have our gut instinct. She allowed this to happen right in front of her eyes and should pay for that
Seriously why is she still free????
Mother's intuition 😢
@@brendajones1527 IAM thinking the case against her will take a little more bc she's on the crazy train... Hopefully they will
She really wanted to get to school while she was sleeping she would've went to McDonald's if she was sleeping cause it would buy her more sleep time.... she certainly wouldn't have turned down McDonald's and asked to walk an abnormal distance.... yeah he told these detectives everything they needed to know......
Only reason I'd consider it pheasable, in the slightest is because she didn't want to be around him longer than she had too.. but they're saying she was already gone.. so its blatant lies.
Can I just say THANK YOU FOR creating the full Playlist so that ppl like me who are behind can get caught up ! I am seriously hoping I can find your channel in podcast format later as well ty❤
The mother said that she seen/watched Maddie getting dressed at 8:00 a.m., the two can't even get their stories straight.
Thank you for this early morning update, G.
It is so painful to hear his voice. And to listen how he explains things that did not happen. Justice for Madeline!
So they get up to go to McDonald’s. She sleeps on the way, then isn’t interested in McDonald’s after all. What a story teller.
Right! You know how many times my kids slept on the way to school? Zero, zip, nada, never. Years of driving to school.
@@libertyna933exacctly! Usually there's some anticipation or anxiousness - not a time a kid just falls asleep. Not believable
Why would Stephan go all the way back to McDonald's if Maddy said no the first time. It's not like he said she changed her mind.
She wasn’t sleeping, she was dead
And then she had a danish?
No child gets up at 7:15 and is ready to leave at 7:30 that’s literally 15 minutes that not even enough time to get dressed no way that’s possible
To be fair, my son would often get up around 7.10 and be on his minibus (that picked up from our door) at 7.25, and he'd even manage breakfast in that time 😆
He just preferred his sleep and was happier to race around for his bus 🤷🏻♀️
Esp with her 'severe' ADHD. She would take time to even wake and get out of bed.
Idk i used to get ready for school pretty fast. Id usually have my outfit already picked out. Especially if I was told we could stop for breakfast. I find it more weird that they got up early to go get ‘breakfast’ and then she didn’t even want the breakfast. Why would she agree to getting up at 7 when school doesn’t start until close to 9:30 to get breakfast and then not want the breakfast. And even then mcdonalds is quick so leaving that early still seems weird to me. Thats 2 hours before school for a 30 minute breakfast and 30 minutes is generous if you’re going through the drive thru.
I wouldn't get up and be ready in 15 minutes for school.....I did if I was going to the stables but not for any other reason lol
@@astroterf.your son is probably in the .0000000000000001%😳 that do that! Most kids don’t!
He is so detailed about insignificant details, yet "isn't sure" about important details. Like, I would know exactly where I dropped my kid off, I know exactly what they had on if I dropped them off, they both left their phones, yet he had to go back for the "clicker" but didn't grab their phones? Guilty.
I wouldn’t even want to be breathing the same air as him. I commend these police officers.
Every word out of his mouth makes me cringe/gag. As a survivor who was groomed, I'm sickened. Poor Maddie 😞
God bless you... so sorry that happened to you.
JUSTICE for Maddie
Sorry you had to deal with that!
May she rest in peace and love. And may her life carry on in purpose. I pray these cases even help one mother protect her children from these predators!
Yes soft spoken for cops
So sorry you had to survive such a horrible experience.
The way Stern degrades Madeline reminds of how Sebastian Rogers was degraded by his stepfather
I pray 🙏 that Sebastian will get his justice.⚖️
Leticia Stauch did the exact same thing
Forgot his phone but went back home because he remembered the CLICKER?? 🤔
Right! Going through a play by play of his morning and conveniently forgets going all the way back to the house until he backed in a corner. Forgets going back for the clicker but remembers joking about her crocs and her fumbling through her backpack? Blames it on not being a morning person?? He seems to be leaving out important details but remembering things that have zero relevance. Obviously it’s all lies and so rehearsed that it’s bad. Im wondering if he knew how shit his story sounded or if he thought his sad worried tone helped him sound like a grieving parent. The end really got me though he slipped up quite a bit using past tense when talking about her. He said “she WAS a good kid” and “i LOVED her like my own” quite the slip of the tongue.
I thought the same!
And didn't grab his phone but only the clicker .. right
@@502Louisviille420You listen to all his past friends talk about him they say he’s not the sharpest tool. A very dumb man actually! I thought when he said he went to the vape shop early but they were closed… like they won’t check the surveillance tape. He simply doesn’t think his story through
He dumping her backpack in the dumpster of their apt complex w/ cams ahead in plain view is still unbelievable
@@shaheedharun445 yeah definitely not the brightest. I think its because it wasn’t planned. I think he snapped or killed her accidentally and was scrambling because he had so much to do in a short period of time but still also had to do other things to form an alibi. The flat tire also didn’t help. That took up some time and if her body was in the car still that would have definitely caused him more panic.
Imagine when you're 13yo female and a creep is watching you do night time routines. WTF!
She KNEW as soon as he said he factory updated it that she needed to get that phone to a professional IMMEDIATELY to see what they can get off of it and boy was her gut feeling right about that phone.
He arrived at Maddie’s house on Sunday evening, making sure she did her “nighttime routine,” while waiting for her mother to come home. What do you think the nighttime routine involved? 🥺
Doesn't bear thinking about 😭
Sick! I have the hunch that the mother was in on it!
A strange man or even a father should not be sleeping in the same bed where there’s a child that age… I mean when they are babies is one thing… even then… it’s disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!! RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
@@andreaschultz4552 I'm the mother of a daughter. I never had a man in my bed when she was growing up. I can't believe her mother was okay with that. It's something no normal mother would tolerate.
🤮 my brain doesn’t ever want to go there
At the end you can clearly hear the female detective hating him in her voice. She already knows he’s guilty of lying trying to hide something.
The words he is using are extremely creepy. I don’t even want to say most of them here that I picked up on
I agree , I picked up on every one. He’s so twisted
For example "killing time" !? He is awful 😖
I am glad these detectives or whoever they were, kept him talking. He is despicable!! Rasberry chhes danish he brought with him yet still went past Mc Donalds twice?? While he claims Madeline was sleeping?
You ask why he talks like that, it's his grooming tone, and he's trying to use it on the police. It makes my skin crawl.
Hearing him say he comforted her made me physically ill 🤢
Ditto
He said his parents were making their end of life plans......Id say, he might want to be doing the same thing!!!
It's always sad when you hear that committing a heinous crime is ruining someone's appetite. I'm heartbroken.
When he says he asks "do you still want it"? That statement makes me want to throw up knowing the evil he did to that child.
You always make it easy to understand the victims stories and we all love you
He hurt his hand because he got a flat while she was still in the car, that's why he dumped her where he did, he panicked seen a row of trees, pulled in drug her out, and went down the road as far as he could before stopping to change the tire, which wasn't far. He tried to change the tire fast and pinched his hand.
Yeah I think the tire was unexpected. Some have said it was planned but i agree it wasn’t. He wouldn’t have wanted to be seen so close to where he left her.
I think he drove through the gate and got the flat tire from the terrain. He wouldn't have carried her across the road from where he was pulled over changing the tire. The hurt hand could be a wound from Maddie defending herself. The whole thing is gut wrenching.
@@502Louisviille420 divine intervention
Hope SS, Jen and Maddie all had drug testing
@karencook5744 why? Thats the least of the sick stuff that happened
"She brings a lot of joy" omg that line creeped me out
He’s tripping over his lies!
The fact he even mentions her menstrual cycle makes me sick. How she comes to him for comfort and sings for him. My heart breaks for her , her mother and family failed her 💔
Didn't he mention that maddie and jen had their menstrual cycles were in sync? And maddies friend mentioned that her period was late?
@@larserna yes! He’s a creep.
Why is her cycle in the forefront of his mind when talking about her missing? Why is he worried about her cycle in first place? SMH
She had no privacy or protection in that house so sad 😞
He is talking on past tense. As if she is no longer here! Exactly!!!
What does eighty six it mean?
Eighty-six is slang meaning "to throw out," "to get rid of," or "to refuse service to."
It comes from 1930s soda-counter slang meaning that an item was sold out.
Yes, perfect! My surname is Sweeney. I love it! 💗
He was trying to be nonchalant. The term is used in the restaurant industry when an item is sold out. He said she 86’d the idea to eat McDonald’s, meaning no longer wanted it, which clearly was a bold faced lie. He thinks he’s smarter than the cops.
He must be familiar with being 86'd. Only time we ever used it was when someone was no longer allowed to come into the bar because of bad behavior.
86 is cop radio code for being barred/trespassed. Just like 187 is cop code for murder.
@@Oceans11.11now it means throwing out drunks or people causing a scene in a business establishment!
If Stephan factory reset his phone the morning or afternoon before it would still show all the calls made & received after that. Isn't that the day Maddy went missing? He said he called or texted Jen to say he was late getting back to pick up Maddy with her. He also said he was calling a bunch of people to see if they had seen Maddy. How could he do this without his contacts? His excuses are so horrible & obvious!! Justice for Maddy ❤ Thanks G for staying up so late to go through this interview with us.
His whiny voice makes me sick!
Why is the Mother not in jail???
I never bought into the pregnancy rumors in this case, but it definitely raised a 🚩 for me that he took the time to mention that she recently started her period. It is interesting how that is at the forefront of his mind 🤔
She could have just told him she was pregnant... maybe so he'd take pity and stop? I don't know. Speculating... but I feel so bad for this little girl. This guy is a creep.
"Somehow during the massive OS update, I managed to factory reset my phone." No, that is NOT how that works, cupcake.
Notice she says "she was...", past tense a lot.
A lottt
When Stephan said it doesn't feel the same here without her here, sounds like Chris Watts
After almost every sentence he says, “maybe” or “I think?” It doesn’t take an expert to hear that even he is not sure about his story. Not only that but any innocent person who cared about the missing child would say, “Why are you spending all this time asking me questions!?! Get out there and look for her!” Or “You can look at my phone all you want but PLEASE let me go out and search! I’m worried!” But nope… just casually “answering” questions. Also ALSO why would you “tranquilize” yourself out of commission when you’re worried about a kid MISSING? I understand being worried sick, but wouldn’t you want to be coherent in case that child showed up? It’s all SO whack! He had to knock himself out because he knew where Maddy was and what he did to her.