Ever since I'd first heard of the Vampire, I'd always wondered if enthusiasts of other 68k platforms (like the Mac & Atari ST, but also maybe X68000 or even early Unix workstations) had made Vampire-ish solutions for their boxes. Seeing 68k virtualization of the Mac and ST on your Vampirized Amiga made my day. Thank you for that. 😊
You might be interested in the buffee project. Its a arm based emulation of the 68000, that is pin compatible with the 68000, so if you just use it's 68k emulation, you can use it to significantly speed up any system that uses a dip packaged 68000. On the Amiga it also provides a ram expansion, but that's platform specific to the Amiga as it uses the Amiga's autoconf system to bring the memory into use.
-> 14:55 Yes, an important point. Not everything you buy will work properly, often the parcel company thugs! There's no point in moaning about it that's just a fact of life. What you really hope for is a company that will take responsibility (regrettably not a given) and do their best to sort things in a timely manor. (not always possible) Very good video, BTW.
We have nearly the exact same A1200 setup. I’ve got the indivision as well in my vampirized 1200. Such a fantastic upgrade. Use mine daily. Great vid! Subbed!
I'm impressed with how nicely they play with each other. There maybe a follow up short if I can get it working how I want with an autochanger hdmi swtich.
@@RetroBytesUK Hi: I'm about to mount my A1200 with this same setup. What about that autochanger hdmi swtich?. Or do I have to be changing them manually?. BTW, have you tried what is called HDMI CEC?
Love your mini documentary style videos so bloody much! Great sense of humour, and just very effortless storytelling, keep on crushing it! Just one bit of criticism on this video, I swear I just about had a heart attack when those static sound effects came out of no where at such a high volume through my headphones! 😂 Yeah, maybe lower the volume of those static sound effects a tad if you use them in the future…
There were some 24-bit games for the Amiga around the time. The first was King of Karate bundled with the OpalVision. Glad you had a good support experience with the Apollo team and got it working in the end. Nice vid, watched it to the end!
Oh! *You* were the guy who preferred Descent! As you're on an emulation kick: how fast can the fastest Amiga emulate a PC? Go on, fire up PCTask: you know you want to!
There had to be be one 😄 I've had PC Taks running dos/win 3.1 just fine, I'm interested to see if in can run 95 at a decent pace. Oddly I really want to try dosbox on some of the late 90's stuff that does not need a GPU. I would be interesting to see what a modern code base can manage.
When I think how much I spent on a 33mHz 68030 accelerator and later, a 25mhz 68040 one I could cry. I also remember spending 399 quid on a 120mb hard drive to go on my Grass Valley expansion card that had a whopping 8mb of expansion RAM via 8x30pin SIMMs. I forget what graphics card I had now, but I remember it cost over 300 quid and gave me 65k and 16.7 million colour modes that seemed like such a upgrade from the 4096 colour HAM mode. That old a2000 lasted me many years and was still going strong when my girlfriend disappeared, taking it with her, sometime around 1998....
I was about to leave a polite comment - but after your comment: i fart in your general direction. (Great vid subtly spooky, Turrican II. Quotas fulfilled.)
Remembering games on the A3000. Hey, there may have been a lot less games but holy crap I did _not_ realise how much faster the ARM2 could actually go. 3D games running at incredible framerates. On 12mips with no fpu, no osc.
Oh yes and doom runs full speed on at overclocked arm250 too (A3020) No wonder that, statistically, every CPU in the world is an ARM. Or 6502. Everything else is a rounding error compared to those two. You should probably get round to ARM and Sophie Wilson too.
Great video...I had an Amiga 1200 with 040 card hd CDs all in a nice eye tower case... Unfortunately I left the UK in 99 and left it all with my mam... Few years later got dumped 😓😓.. Anyway I've been trying to find an a1200 and start again...no luck... So been using Amiga forever... Is the v4 standalone far superior to the pi Amiga or pc based Amiga forever??
I certainly think the v4 is better, the price point does mean its maybe not for everyone. I think if the amount the v4 is better by is worth the price differential is very much up to each indervidual.
Nice video! I have had my V1200v2 about 2 years. When I got it, I started using the HDMI and got Coffin R58 OS from England which I ran from the A1200's IDE because they said the V1200 IDE wasn't working yet. about 3 months ago I finally got all the parts I needed to do the extras with the card. Took 3 times to get the correct either net port card, I had a 3D printed piece for the back right that held the either net port and the HDMI input and ran a thin flat cable through it up to a SD card reader that went to the micro-SD card reader on the V1200. I did get online with it so the either net port works. I couldn't figure out how to add the SD card on the outside right side as a drive the OS can see? Can I just move my SD OS from the A1200's IDE to the V1200's IDE and it will auto detect, or will I have to change settings? Oh yah I added a real time clock with a new round battier right after I got my A1200. I moved it from the A1200's clock port to the V1200's clock port when I instated the V1200. It looks like you have 2 USB ports on the right side. What do you use to get them? Where did you buy it from? Does it hook up to the clock port? I bought the same USB blaster you have which included the same 2 cables you got at the same time I was getting the extra. I bought it thinking I hooked it to the V1200 and gave me a USB port. After more reading I found out it was just to reflash the V1200 if ever needed. I think I have updated the core 1 time about a year after I got it, so about a year ago. Now as I'm sure you know the shit has hit the fan at Vampire and they have broken ways with the guy I bought mine from and I received an email from each side with them each telling their verion of what's happened over the last year or so. The cores are gone as far as I can see so I hope the one I updated to is the one that got the V1200's IDE working. TY in advance for any help or pointers you can give to me. P.S. I had a ACA1233n running an 030 at 25MHZ which I sold about 6 months after getting the V1200. Sometimes I wonder if I should have just stayed with it and the wireless WiFi PCMI card that I had which I sold with the ACA1233n.
Don't like to comment before the end of the video, but when you mentioned the PCIMIA cards, I had to have a wee rant on how crap they tended to be before I forget. Having to replace them crappy "Squirrel" SCSI adapters every so often was a massive annoyance. The system never moved, the rubber feet of the dongle were always resting level on the table, but the damn things would always break across the thin bridge that leads to where it inserts into the system. Would render my CD drive unusable until a replacement arrived, and always seemed to happen whenever the new AF(with cover mounted CD full of freeware and shareware) arrived.
That slot never did live upto the plans they had for it. The idea was the Amiga could make use of PC hardware intended for laptops, but the plan did not work out as only Amiga kit vendors produced add-ons for it with drivers the Amiga could use. If a few none amiga vendors had written (or let others write) drivers for AmigaOS it would have been a different story. I used a sony/adaptech CD drive with my then PC laptop it would have been great to be able to use it with an amiga, but that never worked out. Its a shame as that CD drive is still working just fine. Adding that slot to the A600 is what also pushed up the costs, so the plan to have that machine as the low price budget entry system to the Amiga (the A300) was scuppered, so they had to charge more and pretend is was some how better than the A500.
@@RetroBytesUK The issue was, as my uncle put it, it's bit before my time, but he quoted that they were like the expansion socket on a ZX81. One slight tap and you'd crash it. It's quite funny, the "CD drive" I use still works. It was a cheap portable CD player with a part that plugged into the headphone socket on the back that had the SCSI input and passthrough/terminator. My dad now uses it with a pair of headphones for when he's in the back garden having having a few beers in summer.
The Indivision AGA Mk3 is now available. €185 is a bit beyond my justification but it's an incredible piece of kit and I'd love to spare the cash to get one. Hoping that the PiStorm32 will be more affordable! The Vampire will sadly forever be beyond my budget.
The inivision has gone up a bit then, that also puts it up above the threshold you will have to pay import duty on, so it will be even more for us. PiStorm is very interesting an the new PiZero2 being compatible with Rpi3 means you can use that to save a fair bit of space. I thinking about putting on in my CDTV and doing a video on it.
are *All* floppy drives exactly the same?? i mean different makes are they all the same?? thanks!!!!!! like St, Amiga Mac and Acorn Archimedes?? pc ?? thanks............. disc drives used to be the same a long long time ago !!!!!!
What the point of these cards? They manage the, cpu, ram, graphics and sound and alot more, the Amiga hardware is irrelevant. You may say they are better than a expensive old accelerator, but they are still far more than a raspberry pi, in the same case doing the same thing but alot better?
Now I watched all of it, gotta say it's what I wanted back when I was in high school and still thought it was cool to hate on PCs. I'll be honest, if it were budget be damned, it would've had an '060 and ludicrous RAM, but at the same time, my good ol' '030 did everything except Quake. Doom could be achieved(I'm told the FPU I had on my Blizzard card helped massively here) as long as you reigned the screen res in to 320x240 and accepted it would be in 8-bit colour depth. Quake, on the other hand, required a graphics card and yeah, that weren't fitting in the trapdoor.
@@valenrn8657 I think you're misunderstanding that the Amiga versions of Doom aren't actual official releases, but ports made from when the source was released by Id in '97. These ports had special features(such as being able to utilise an FPU) that were in the original game.
Ok, I'll bite. The Vampire V2 won't work without an original Amiga. You're adding the fast ram, like all Amiga memory expansions did back in the '80s and '90s, the built in chip ram is still there. The CPU in most Amiga's was upgradable right out of the box, adding a faster CPU doesn't make it any less of an Amiga. The Amiga 4000 even came with a choice of two CPUs. Accelerators always came with fast ram expansions too. The Vampire doesn't replace the original AGA chipset, it just adds an RTG card. Just like adding one to a big box Amiga back in the day via Zorro slots. Same with networking, sound cards etc. It still uses the vast majority of the motherboard chips.. so how is it NOT an Amiga?
Ok, So with just the vampire card can it display OCS ECS and AGA programs or do you need a scan doubler? I already have one of those but if I could output to hdmi with all the work done that would be easier. Also does this work with 3.2 roms and OS 3.2?
You will need a scan doubler saddly, the osc ecs aga display is still provided by the original chips, and comes out the regular video port. Only the Rtg graphics modes are displayed via the hdmi port. The vampire does effectively provide its own rom image. So the on-board roms are not used. So if you put 3.2 in those slots nothing will change. I think there are now versions of the vampire firmware where the rom has been swapped for 3.2 I don't know how legit these images are.
@@RetroBytesUK Oh, that's disappointing. Effectively, you would still have to change tv inputs or have 2 screens. I'm losing interest in the Amiga again. It's too fiddly to keep this ancient relic going and for what, to play games. My several hundred watt PC does that. I looked at the price of that card and I can make a new PC for that price.
@@RetroBytesUK No I have an Amiga 1200 but was looking to improve the computer's visual performance. The video port is dated. I thought rtg would be an improvement, which it is but if it doesn't allow for lower resolutions then it's not really an improvement. It's more of an afterthought.
The number of people who get them muddled up is surprisingly high. I did a review of AmiKit once to get many people asking why I was shilling for AmigaKit.
@@RetroBytesUK Fair enough, they do have a "Don't drink this!" warning on bottles of bleach. I was a bit disappointed that you didn't cover ApolloOS, the AROS fork for Vampire. As a legally free and open-source option, being developed and supported by the Vampire team, this option appeals to me far more than Coffin or even AmigaOS 3.2.
I do really need to play AB3d on this at somepoint. I remember trying to play it on a stock A1200 and it being a postage stamp sized flick book. I need to play it at a decent size and frame rate.
AB3D2 is buggy, the RTG patch is even more buggy, and it's one of those games that needs a professional coder with Amiga knowledge to drive it to it's full potential.
After paying 600 euro for the card you had to do your own flashing of the FPGA; that does not sound very reassuring... Also it is not like you are running those extra games on an amiga, but on a FPGA simulated CPU, so it shouldn't be surprising that they run fine, exactly as they would run on a MiSTer setup :) I get that the fluff of saying that the Vampire use a 68080 make it sound like if it is something accurate, but as you probably know if you write cores for FPGA chip, there is a good chunk of approximation (the 68080 never existed, the last one was the superscalar 060, so the FPGA implementation is purely a beefed up version of the 060 probably, to use all the cells of the Altera Cyclone). I think the Vampire standalone has a reason to exist; it is a self contained FPGA Amiga, which goes faster than a MiSTer; but these internal cards just make me scratch my head. You run them in an Amiga but they take over part of the functionalities but not all of them...
@@sierraromeoromeo2444 I suspect you have little familiarity with how the Amiga expansion bus works and how the expansion cards works. The bus on the expansion connector is able to totally bypass the onboard CPU, ROM and even RAM if needed. In fact when you boot the vampire you boot it from its own IDE controller (the drive is physically connected to the onboard 44 pin IDE connector). Even the roms are bypassed, since the card use the onboard roms and not the ones on the Amiga. The fast ram on the expansion board is used exclusively by the FPGA CPU on board, while the chipset still use the 2 mb chip ram on the main board. If you use RTG output on the HDMI connector of the expansion card, you totally bypass the chipset, except for Paula, because the audio does not get routed on the FPGA core. So as you can see, what is actually running from the original Amiga is the chip ram, the audio chip and the joystick and mouse controllers for the interrupt.
@@fcf8269 You clearly have less understanding of computers, period! Want to use the Amiga chipset? Use it! Connect your display to the Amigas RGB port and use the original chips! Is that so hard to understand? WTF can't you grasp? Use as much or as little as you want! Jeez, do you even know how to plug in a computer?
@@fcf8269 I'll add this: you can talk about technical aspects of computers, but you are clearly a simpleton! There are plenty of videos showing Vampire RTG working alongside the OCS/ECS/AGA chipset. If you haven't seen them, it just shows how little you want to learn! The knowledge is out there, but not in your head! From now on, tell yourself "I am an ignorant moron" and don't write comments!
@@sierraromeoromeo2444 I wish you would say anything meaningful in your reply to support your first statement; but sadly that's not the case. How many times did you hit wikipedia to even understand what I wrote? If the answer is more than twice, then you have a long way to go. Good luck
I am sorry but I can not excuse a hardware company not testing their hardware before it ships out, If it was tested they would have seen it was not flashed and sorted it. What if there was something seriously wrong with the card? I do not care how good the aftersales support is if they can not be bothered to test before hand.
Its a very small team working on this stuff, so personally I'm fine with things going a little wrong as long as it gets fixed. They muat have had a qa process that worked for the hardware its self, as the card electronically was fine. Where things went little wrong was that it was shipped before it was flashed, given there is one guy making these small errors are to be expected. For me this is part and parcel of small run nitch electronic production. They still have to produce these at an afordable price, without a larger scale of production to spread cost over there is aways gping to be a trade off. For me that trade off worked, your own threadhold for this is different to mine.
Buy the Vampire for what it can do, not what it SHOULD do in the future. The point of an FPGA is that the core can be updated. So they didn’t ship it with the latest firmware? No big deal to flash it. Come on, enough of the Vampire / FPGA kvetching. Our jaws would have hit the floor if this was available in the 90’s. Let people have some fun with new tech upgrades to their classic machines.
@Enigma776: The Vampire/Apollo team are not a company, they are a team of enthusiasts. If you expect to adhere to ISO regulations etc, then there would be zero product. This is a comunity project, for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. You clearly don't belong here! Remove yourself, and we'll just carry on as if you never existed!
@@CartoonMonkeyStudio I have no issue with the hardware or what it can or can't do it is a great bit of kit, I take issue with the lack of QA testing even if its the bare minimum of does it work/boot, if there was any testing a card without flash would have been picked up, which leads me to think no testing at all is being done.
Ever since I'd first heard of the Vampire, I'd always wondered if enthusiasts of other 68k platforms (like the Mac & Atari ST, but also maybe X68000 or even early Unix workstations) had made Vampire-ish solutions for their boxes.
Seeing 68k virtualization of the Mac and ST on your Vampirized Amiga made my day. Thank you for that. 😊
You might be interested in the buffee project. Its a arm based emulation of the 68000, that is pin compatible with the 68000, so if you just use it's 68k emulation, you can use it to significantly speed up any system that uses a dip packaged 68000. On the Amiga it also provides a ram expansion, but that's platform specific to the Amiga as it uses the Amiga's autoconf system to bring the memory into use.
-> 14:55 Yes, an important point.
Not everything you buy will work properly, often the parcel company thugs! There's no point in moaning about it that's just a fact of life. What you really hope for is a company that will take responsibility (regrettably not a given) and do their best to sort things in a timely manor. (not always possible)
Very good video, BTW.
We have nearly the exact same A1200 setup. I’ve got the indivision as well in my vampirized 1200. Such a fantastic upgrade. Use mine daily. Great vid! Subbed!
I'm impressed with how nicely they play with each other. There maybe a follow up short if I can get it working how I want with an autochanger hdmi swtich.
@@RetroBytesUK I think that an hdmi auto-switcher with a priority switch is the only thing that will work: th-cam.com/video/I3_5P_k_6VE/w-d-xo.html
@@RetroBytesUK Hi: I'm about to mount my A1200 with this same setup. What about that autochanger hdmi swtich?. Or do I have to be changing them manually?. BTW, have you tried what is called HDMI CEC?
Luscious piece of kit.
Love your mini documentary style videos so bloody much! Great sense of humour, and just very effortless storytelling, keep on crushing it!
Just one bit of criticism on this video, I swear I just about had a heart attack when those static sound effects came out of no where at such a high volume through my headphones! 😂 Yeah, maybe lower the volume of those static sound effects a tad if you use them in the future…
There were some 24-bit games for the Amiga around the time. The first was King of Karate bundled with the OpalVision. Glad you had a good support experience with the Apollo team and got it working in the end. Nice vid, watched it to the end!
Now I need to find a copy of that and dig out my opal vision card.
@@RetroBytesUK that would be a cool video!
What a great video. It’s criminal you don’t have more subscribers.
One day the algorithm might deem the channel sufficiently worthy to let people know of its existance.
Nice video. Thanks for your mention of AmiKit!
Thanks I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the distro.
Awesome! At 19:07 there’s a non narrated section where you could Shazam the banging background track 😊
Which track was it ?
@@RetroBytesUK I wouldn’t want to spoil it for the other participants! 😉
Oh! *You* were the guy who preferred Descent!
As you're on an emulation kick: how fast can the fastest Amiga emulate a PC? Go on, fire up PCTask: you know you want to!
There had to be be one 😄 I've had PC Taks running dos/win 3.1 just fine, I'm interested to see if in can run 95 at a decent pace. Oddly I really want to try dosbox on some of the late 90's stuff that does not need a GPU. I would be interesting to see what a modern code base can manage.
When I think how much I spent on a 33mHz 68030 accelerator and later, a 25mhz 68040 one I could cry. I also remember spending 399 quid on a 120mb hard drive to go on my Grass Valley expansion card that had a whopping 8mb of expansion RAM via 8x30pin SIMMs. I forget what graphics card I had now, but I remember it cost over 300 quid and gave me 65k and 16.7 million colour modes that seemed like such a upgrade from the 4096 colour HAM mode. That old a2000 lasted me many years and was still going strong when my girlfriend disappeared, taking it with her, sometime around 1998....
"But does it run Doom?" - yep, every retro system video is required to show Doom running. LOL!!!
Recently it got ported to a lawnmower.
So it's still important
I was about to leave a polite comment - but after your comment: i fart in your general direction.
(Great vid subtly spooky, Turrican II. Quotas fulfilled.)
🤣🤣🤣
You should have a lot more views, You are awesome
Remembering games on the A3000.
Hey, there may have been a lot less games but holy crap I did _not_ realise how much faster the ARM2 could actually go. 3D games running at incredible framerates.
On 12mips with no fpu, no osc.
Oh yes and doom runs full speed on at overclocked arm250 too (A3020)
No wonder that, statistically, every CPU in the world is an ARM.
Or 6502.
Everything else is a rounding error compared to those two.
You should probably get round to ARM and Sophie Wilson too.
Great video...I had an Amiga 1200 with 040 card hd CDs all in a nice eye tower case...
Unfortunately I left the UK in 99 and left it all with my mam... Few years later got dumped 😓😓..
Anyway I've been trying to find an a1200 and start again...no luck...
So been using Amiga forever...
Is the v4 standalone far superior to the pi Amiga or pc based Amiga forever??
I certainly think the v4 is better, the price point does mean its maybe not for everyone. I think if the amount the v4 is better by is worth the price differential is very much up to each indervidual.
Nice video! I have had my V1200v2 about 2 years. When I got it, I started using the HDMI and got Coffin R58 OS from England which I ran from the A1200's IDE because they said the V1200 IDE wasn't working yet. about 3 months ago I finally got all the parts I needed to do the extras with the card. Took 3 times to get the correct either net port card, I had a 3D printed piece for the back right that held the either net port and the HDMI input and ran a thin flat cable through it up to a SD card reader that went to the micro-SD card reader on the V1200. I did get online with it so the either net port works. I couldn't figure out how to add the SD card on the outside right side as a drive the OS can see? Can I just move my SD OS from the A1200's IDE to the V1200's IDE and it will auto detect, or will I have to change settings? Oh yah I added a real time clock with a new round battier right after I got my A1200. I moved it from the A1200's clock port to the V1200's clock port when I instated the V1200. It looks like you have 2 USB ports on the right side. What do you use to get them? Where did you buy it from? Does it hook up to the clock port? I bought the same USB blaster you have which included the same 2 cables you got at the same time I was getting the extra. I bought it thinking I hooked it to the V1200 and gave me a USB port. After more reading I found out it was just to reflash the V1200 if ever needed. I think I have updated the core 1 time about a year after I got it, so about a year ago. Now as I'm sure you know the shit has hit the fan at Vampire and they have broken ways with the guy I bought mine from and I received an email from each side with them each telling their verion of what's happened over the last year or so. The cores are gone as far as I can see so I hope the one I updated to is the one that got the V1200's IDE working. TY in advance for any help or pointers you can give to me. P.S. I had a ACA1233n running an 030 at 25MHZ which I sold about 6 months after getting the V1200. Sometimes I wonder if I should have just stayed with it and the wireless WiFi PCMI card that I had which I sold with the ACA1233n.
I feel like you should review every new FPS that comes out and use the same terminology as you use here to describe your quota of Doom and Quake.
Aspect ratios look terrible. Or is that from moving to TH-cam?
That post-its stock footage 😂
Yes that it is 🤣, me grumbling at an fpga programmer would not make for good viewing even if I did film it.
Hi, very nice video. Did you get your card from Relec?
Don't like to comment before the end of the video, but when you mentioned the PCIMIA cards, I had to have a wee rant on how crap they tended to be before I forget. Having to replace them crappy "Squirrel" SCSI adapters every so often was a massive annoyance. The system never moved, the rubber feet of the dongle were always resting level on the table, but the damn things would always break across the thin bridge that leads to where it inserts into the system.
Would render my CD drive unusable until a replacement arrived, and always seemed to happen whenever the new AF(with cover mounted CD full of freeware and shareware) arrived.
That slot never did live upto the plans they had for it. The idea was the Amiga could make use of PC hardware intended for laptops, but the plan did not work out as only Amiga kit vendors produced add-ons for it with drivers the Amiga could use. If a few none amiga vendors had written (or let others write) drivers for AmigaOS it would have been a different story. I used a sony/adaptech CD drive with my then PC laptop it would have been great to be able to use it with an amiga, but that never worked out. Its a shame as that CD drive is still working just fine. Adding that slot to the A600 is what also pushed up the costs, so the plan to have that machine as the low price budget entry system to the Amiga (the A300) was scuppered, so they had to charge more and pretend is was some how better than the A500.
@@RetroBytesUK The issue was, as my uncle put it, it's bit before my time, but he quoted that they were like the expansion socket on a ZX81. One slight tap and you'd crash it.
It's quite funny, the "CD drive" I use still works. It was a cheap portable CD player with a part that plugged into the headphone socket on the back that had the SCSI input and passthrough/terminator. My dad now uses it with a pair of headphones for when he's in the back garden having having a few beers in summer.
The Indivision AGA Mk3 is now available. €185 is a bit beyond my justification but it's an incredible piece of kit and I'd love to spare the cash to get one. Hoping that the PiStorm32 will be more affordable!
The Vampire will sadly forever be beyond my budget.
The inivision has gone up a bit then, that also puts it up above the threshold you will have to pay import duty on, so it will be even more for us. PiStorm is very interesting an the new PiZero2 being compatible with Rpi3 means you can use that to save a fair bit of space. I thinking about putting on in my CDTV and doing a video on it.
The PiStorm32 uses the CM4 and I expect it to be low three figures for us, which I can justify :)
are *All* floppy drives exactly the same?? i mean different makes are they all the same?? thanks!!!!!! like St, Amiga Mac and Acorn Archimedes?? pc ?? thanks............. disc drives used to be the same a long long time ago !!!!!!
Fastest 68K Apple.
Ever try running any X68000 stuff on there?
What the point of these cards? They manage the, cpu, ram, graphics and sound and alot more, the Amiga hardware is irrelevant. You may say they are better than a expensive old accelerator, but they are still far more than a raspberry pi, in the same case doing the same thing but alot better?
Now I watched all of it, gotta say it's what I wanted back when I was in high school and still thought it was cool to hate on PCs. I'll be honest, if it were budget be damned, it would've had an '060 and ludicrous RAM, but at the same time, my good ol' '030 did everything except Quake.
Doom could be achieved(I'm told the FPU I had on my Blizzard card helped massively here) as long as you reigned the screen res in to 320x240 and accepted it would be in 8-bit colour depth. Quake, on the other hand, required a graphics card and yeah, that weren't fitting in the trapdoor.
Doom doesn't use FPU. Quake requires an FPU.
@@valenrn8657 I think you're misunderstanding that the Amiga versions of Doom aren't actual official releases, but ports made from when the source was released by Id in '97. These ports had special features(such as being able to utilise an FPU) that were in the original game.
@@fattomandeibu Amiga Doom versions don't need an FPU since they run on FPU less 68LC060 or 68LC040.
@@valenrn8657 Didn't say it needed one, I said it helped my 25mHz '030 over the line and into playable.
@@fattomandeibu None of Amiga Doom ports has used FPU. Doom source code is integer math, not floating point math.
If replacing the cpu, memory, and graphics with the vampire 2, how is it not just and emulator wearing the skin of an Amiga?
Ok, I'll bite. The Vampire V2 won't work without an original Amiga. You're adding the fast ram, like all Amiga memory expansions did back in the '80s and '90s, the built in chip ram is still there. The CPU in most Amiga's was upgradable right out of the box, adding a faster CPU doesn't make it any less of an Amiga. The Amiga 4000 even came with a choice of two CPUs. Accelerators always came with fast ram expansions too. The Vampire doesn't replace the original AGA chipset, it just adds an RTG card. Just like adding one to a big box Amiga back in the day via Zorro slots. Same with networking, sound cards etc. It still uses the vast majority of the motherboard chips.. so how is it NOT an Amiga?
Ok, So with just the vampire card can it display OCS ECS and AGA programs or do you need a scan doubler? I already have one of those but if I could output to hdmi with all the work done that would be easier. Also does this work with 3.2 roms and OS 3.2?
You will need a scan doubler saddly, the osc ecs aga display is still provided by the original chips, and comes out the regular video port. Only the Rtg graphics modes are displayed via the hdmi port. The vampire does effectively provide its own rom image. So the on-board roms are not used. So if you put 3.2 in those slots nothing will change. I think there are now versions of the vampire firmware where the rom has been swapped for 3.2 I don't know how legit these images are.
@@RetroBytesUK Oh, that's disappointing. Effectively, you would still have to change tv inputs or have 2 screens. I'm losing interest in the Amiga again. It's too fiddly to keep this ancient relic going and for what, to play games. My several hundred watt PC does that. I looked at the price of that card and I can make a new PC for that price.
The V4 standalone maybe more what you're after potentially.
@@RetroBytesUK No I have an Amiga 1200 but was looking to improve the computer's visual performance. The video port is dated. I thought rtg would be an improvement, which it is but if it doesn't allow for lower resolutions then it's not really an improvement. It's more of an afterthought.
For higher frame rates for F1GP with higher CPUs, F1GP needs to be patched.
The UK shop is Amiga Kit, not AmiKit. Seems easy enough to tell the difference to me.
The number of people who get them muddled up is surprisingly high. I did a review of AmiKit once to get many people asking why I was shilling for AmigaKit.
@@RetroBytesUK Fair enough, they do have a "Don't drink this!" warning on bottles of bleach. I was a bit disappointed that you didn't cover ApolloOS, the AROS fork for Vampire. As a legally free and open-source option, being developed and supported by the Vampire team, this option appeals to me far more than Coffin or even AmigaOS 3.2.
you have not tested alien breed 3d 2 on the v1200. ;)
I do really need to play AB3d on this at somepoint. I remember trying to play it on a stock A1200 and it being a postage stamp sized flick book. I need to play it at a decent size and frame rate.
AB3D2 is buggy, the RTG patch is even more buggy, and it's one of those games that needs a professional coder with Amiga knowledge to drive it to it's full potential.
Please share your disk image with the Emulators on.... Pretty please...lol
Its all part of the coffin distribution, so if you download that the emulation is all included.
@@RetroBytesUK was going to delete my comment as I saw that lol I’ve bought it now for the v4 icedrake I’m waiting for =)
@@coolvideos8864 I've ordered an Icedrake too.
@@RetroBytesUK Still waiting for mine =(
@@RetroBytesUK Have you received yours yet? just received an email saying at least another 10 days...
It's hilarious, FPGAs are just mountains and mountains and MOUNTAINS of lookup tables...
Oof, the screen tearing on doom
And quake
After paying 600 euro for the card you had to do your own flashing of the FPGA; that does not sound very reassuring...
Also it is not like you are running those extra games on an amiga, but on a FPGA simulated CPU, so it shouldn't be surprising that they run fine, exactly as they would run on a MiSTer setup :) I get that the fluff of saying that the Vampire use a 68080 make it sound like if it is something accurate, but as you probably know if you write cores for FPGA chip, there is a good chunk of approximation (the 68080 never existed, the last one was the superscalar 060, so the FPGA implementation is purely a beefed up version of the 060 probably, to use all the cells of the Altera Cyclone).
I think the Vampire standalone has a reason to exist; it is a self contained FPGA Amiga, which goes faster than a MiSTer; but these internal cards just make me scratch my head. You run them in an Amiga but they take over part of the functionalities but not all of them...
They don't take over anything. They provide a faster CPU and RAM, and there's RTG if you want it.
@@sierraromeoromeo2444 I suspect you have little familiarity with how the Amiga expansion bus works and how the expansion cards works.
The bus on the expansion connector is able to totally bypass the onboard CPU, ROM and even RAM if needed.
In fact when you boot the vampire you boot it from its own IDE controller (the drive is physically connected to the onboard 44 pin IDE connector). Even the roms are bypassed, since the card use the onboard roms and not the ones on the Amiga.
The fast ram on the expansion board is used exclusively by the FPGA CPU on board, while the chipset still use the 2 mb chip ram on the main board.
If you use RTG output on the HDMI connector of the expansion card, you totally bypass the chipset, except for Paula, because the audio does not get routed on the FPGA core.
So as you can see, what is actually running from the original Amiga is the chip ram, the audio chip and the joystick and mouse controllers for the interrupt.
@@fcf8269 You clearly have less understanding of computers, period! Want to use the Amiga chipset? Use it! Connect your display to the Amigas RGB port and use the original chips! Is that so hard to understand? WTF can't you grasp? Use as much or as little as you want! Jeez, do you even know how to plug in a computer?
@@fcf8269 I'll add this: you can talk about technical aspects of computers, but you are clearly a simpleton! There are plenty of videos showing Vampire RTG working alongside the OCS/ECS/AGA chipset. If you haven't seen them, it just shows how little you want to learn! The knowledge is out there, but not in your head! From now on, tell yourself "I am an ignorant moron" and don't write comments!
@@sierraromeoromeo2444 I wish you would say anything meaningful in your reply to support your first statement; but sadly that's not the case. How many times did you hit wikipedia to even understand what I wrote? If the answer is more than twice, then you have a long way to go. Good luck
I am sorry but I can not excuse a hardware company not testing their hardware before it ships out, If it was tested they would have seen it was not flashed and sorted it. What if there was something seriously wrong with the card? I do not care how good the aftersales support is if they can not be bothered to test before hand.
Its a very small team working on this stuff, so personally I'm fine with things going a little wrong as long as it gets fixed. They muat have had a qa process that worked for the hardware its self, as the card electronically was fine. Where things went little wrong was that it was shipped before it was flashed, given there is one guy making these small errors are to be expected. For me this is part and parcel of small run nitch electronic production. They still have to produce these at an afordable price, without a larger scale of production to spread cost over there is aways gping to be a trade off. For me that trade off worked, your own threadhold for this is different to mine.
Buy the Vampire for what it can do, not what it SHOULD do in the future. The point of an FPGA is that the core can be updated. So they didn’t ship it with the latest firmware? No big deal to flash it. Come on, enough of the Vampire / FPGA kvetching. Our jaws would have hit the floor if this was available in the 90’s. Let people have some fun with new tech upgrades to their classic machines.
@Enigma776: The Vampire/Apollo team are not a company, they are a team of enthusiasts. If you expect to adhere to ISO regulations etc, then there would be zero product. This is a comunity project, for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. You clearly don't belong here! Remove yourself, and we'll just carry on as if you never existed!
@@CartoonMonkeyStudio I have no issue with the hardware or what it can or can't do it is a great bit of kit, I take issue with the lack of QA testing even if its the bare minimum of does it work/boot, if there was any testing a card without flash would have been picked up, which leads me to think no testing at all is being done.
Meh