There's nothing better than a presentation from a pro(s) who worked it all. Absolutely awe inspiring. Thank you. I'll subscribe for sure. I loved the Old Dutch Cleanser dirty and weathered car. Reminds me of the carpenter who refuses to work on his own house if you get my drift. I'm recalling Pegasus, the flying Mobile horse being 2 sets of neon wings alternating the lighting appearing as if it was flying. You just took me back 70 years lol.
That Old Dutch Cleanser weathered reefer was acquired as is from Tony Thompson. I use a lot of modeling license by operating it during my 50s era sessions!
Brilliant! Just the kickstart I needed; I long have been planning a "3-era layout" with WWII, transition, and a bit of mid 1960's thrown in at different spots, with mostly arid SP SoCal and lush Central Coast, but some Santa Fe and UP sharing trackage. This layout in a 20'X20' building covers it all without seeming packed in tight.
@@kazoik Yah! It's all in the loops and the reveerse curves. I intentionally put 4% grades into it so that I could have a helper distrct I have had 12 units pulling and shoving trains up the grade toward Summit. The grade is so stiff that I need real working brakes. I designed a prototype that works great, and I want to go into business with my inventions, but I have Primary Progressive MS and it is really screwinbg things up for me. Would you be interested in running my company? It is called Miniature Railway Foundries. I just can't do it now after my wife died. I need someone to run with it. I don't want to tell everyone on YT about the things that I have dreamt up because they can be stolen. They are so simple, and so easy to put on a layout that I have to be careful talking about it!!! Would you be interested???
@@wasatchrangerailway6921 I appreciate the offer, but I think I will pass on it. I like being retired and plan to keep it that way. Perhaps somebody like David Hussey who owns Cannon & Company might know of someone. www.cannonandco.net
Thanks, Jim, but I have to say you're a bit prejudiced! LOL. And, for overall scenery, your Feather River Canyon layout is tops in my book, hands down!
I’m modeling 1910-1935 for the entire layout, with the ability to run both 1935-1965 for about half of the layout that in that time still had rail service, and 1965-present on the main level (it’s a three deck layout) this layout is awesome!
G'day from Australia....Thanks so much for a truly terrific video....Everything is fantastic ...I'm starting out in modern era ATSF/ BNSF merger and this video is inspiring ...Cheers
Even though I am a "Modern Day" N Scaler, I found a lot about Dave's layout which really appealed to me. If I'm ever back in California, I'll make a point of asking to visit!
If your interested in the Amador Central, go to the Amador County Model Railroad Museum in Pine Grove, CA. They model the Amador Central and other locations in California.
Two of my favorite pieces of railroad. Only worked the Placerville Branch to Nimbus (for UP) but I did ride the entire line in 1978 as a "non-paid" brakeman (I knew the crew personally and they convinced me to mark-off my brakeman's job at Central California Traction for a day and ride with them to P'ville. Glad I did!).
@@kazoik you lucky dawg! I've rode the Placerville branch on their '38 Skagit motor car, very fun. Cant wait to ride their full size trains when this pandemic is over. I live near the amador central as well, sad to see what it has become.
I read about this layout in one of the magazines mentioned. I thought it was rather nicely done and very well designed for the space at the time. Seeing the video is even better. You did a wonderful layout tour I wish there were many more done in this format. I must add congratulations on a very well done layout, truly beautiful workmanship and design work.
Mr Larson, thanks so much on explaining your cement plant where it starts off by the conveyerd limestone. Less than eight miles away I believe that is being built. The roller or partial roller is in and a huge 4 to six story building is going up now. Now to the west of those two structures are two six story "water"? tanks then a smaller / wider tank, no clue what will be in it. But all three are together. I'm hoping to model something similar, but primary use will be for making concrete ties for my upcoming layout.
beautiful layout and great story behind it and the way people are honored in the modeling. I was drooling over the SN crossbuck outside and the working wig wag, nice job
that would be a nice layout to watch someone do switching on. I would do it but I always end up breaking something, so I will just watch. lol very nice, some of the scratch built industries alone would give you enough to be in awe of for hours.
The amount of cab forwards, shays, and SP consolidations on the HO division of this channel is amazing, but something eastern would be a nice amount of variety. Perhaps two videos on the east, one in the north and one in the south.
It will happen at some point. Where I live, western North American railroads are what's modeled on most layouts. There are three east coast-themed layouts on my radar to do layout tours here, though. Just have to get back to being able to get together in person.
@@tsgmultimedia Understandable, have a great day. All I can think of is just this little mainline in the thick woods as a big green pacific goes rolling by with matching coaches, then a black consolidation huffing and puffing along with a long freight...
Hi John - Beautiful layout and Dave did a great job of explaining the railroad and providing background regarding the various names of businesses, etc. Very well done video and thanks so much for sharing! Mike
Glad you enjoyed it. We do run a "Denver" local which currently sports a pair of Rock Island GP7s (power/caboose get swapped around between sessions, using either Rock, CB&Q or D&RGW). Train originates in staging, interchanges at Junction City and then works a few on line industries before returning to staging.
Hey Dave. My name is Russ Soares. Maybe you remember me. Love the railroad. I worked with you on the layout in Lodi. A man at a rail show told me how to find you 😁 good seein ya. Workin on a N scale11X 3 1/2 thats pretty awesome. Donner style. Take care
I thoroughly enjoyed the tour, partly because I'm familiar with some of the areas (Victor, Grey Rocks, Acampo, Sand Pass, etc). Lots of great details to see and search for,
Very excellent video..,. You guys did a great job , so awesome 👍 I have to much city but that's where I grew up so I know a lot about it. Being your responsibility retired do you use the trains alot? You all have great experience on the railroad so that helped a lot.. again great work guys, joe
The chuckle the man gave when telling the story of the "Tequila Shela Bar/Brothel" made me laugh! That HAS to be one of the funniest moments I have heard on a layout tour! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you! I remember quite a bit of it as a kid. As far as SP steam, I can recall hearing an occasional whistle while visiting my grandparents in downtown Sacramento...but no visual memories.
Very nice. Nice detailing and weathering. Always nice to see the SP modeled. Model trains never start or stop smoothly or creep very well. Seems like a free rolling gear set would help that. Also, the loco sounds always need more bass. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Wonderful layout, I am impressed how you took advantage of the helix to make scenery sections. Is there any webpage page with pictures of that section to see how the levels blend together???... Congratulations!. I have the 2019 magazine and after re-reading it today I surfed youtube and boom! there it was, the real thing!!
Maybe I'm missing it but one thing about sound systems. I never seem to hear that distinctive clack-clack sound from when the wheels of cars or engines run over the rail joints on pre-welded rail. I do realize it would be a bear to install. The number of speakers involved to have the sound localized for a large layout would be prohibitive most likely. Add in sensors to trip the circuit for when a wheel passes over a joint etc. It might be something for somebody to look into for use on a limited basis at grade crossings and such. Myself I have enough trouble getting the red electricicles to go down the red wire and the black ones the black. Multi-colored wire is a real puzzle. 😉 Nice layout by the way 👍
The beets are anise seed. I picked them along a nearby country road (had to shuck them too!) but you can buy them in the spice section of your grocery store. A bit expensive though!
I use anise seed that was growing wild near my home. Had to do my own shucking which was time consuming. You can find it in the spice rack at your grocery store but it's not cheap.
First I want to start by saying this is an incredible layout. Wonderfully done. Lots of hidden gems throughout. Small details like the fisherman in the beginning, the globes on the gas pumps that glow, and many other small scenes that make the layout so nice. I enjoyed it very much. 👍👍 Was the train, in the opening scene at Oakwilde, coming down grade while coming through and out of that cut? It looked like a fairly steep grade. If it's not my eyes are playing tricks on me or maybe it was the camera angle. I'm not sure. Again wonderful layout. Great video. I can't wait to see what the next video holds in store for all us viewers. 👍🎅❄🎄☃️
Thank you for your comments, William. At Oakwilde, the main line (against the backdrop) is about a 2% grade. The climb from the drill track back up to the main is short but steep, above 4 percent. Two places I worked in the real RR world had switching leads that were exceptionally steep, the Best (Fertilizer) run-around at Lathrop, California on the SP and the Steed Industrial lead on the WP's Reno Branch. Handling short cuts of cars never proved to be an issue with either.
That is an AC4/5 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2, numbered incorrectly as an AC6. Broadway Limited manufactured the locomotive but we installed a Soundtraxx decoder and discarded the factory supplied QSI decoder.
@@stefanlorse2249 the cab forward was a design unique to Southern Pacific, to prevent crew asphyxiation while traveling through the tunnels and snowsheds in California.
Theres been several times I've seen celebrities in airports etc and been on the same flights. I would never approach them for an autograph. The only time we did that was after Braves games when I was a kid. And that was at Milwaukee County Stadium which shows I old I am
Love the layout, just incredible! I don't understand what a "Southern Pacific Torpedo Boat" is- please, when you use nonsensical terminology (Southern Pacific has never owned any actual Torpedo Boats), please explain what you really mean by it. Thanks.
Angie, the four SP passenger-service GP9s, 5622-5625 (later 3004-3007) didn't have dynamic brake fans and grids on their roof but instead had air reservoir tanks, resembling "torpedoes" thus the nickname torpedo boat.
@@mpetersen6 Oh, please. I got at least 50 hits Googling "torpedo boat" and ALL OF THEM WERE ABOUT NAVAL VESSELS. Not the first (none, zilch, zero, zip, nada) mention of anything to do with any railroad whatsoever. Maybe you have a different brand of Google in your location. Or maybe you're full of sh*t.
so coolllll
Very nice work!
A very enjoyable video tour of a really GREAT layout. I especially appreciate seeing the SP power in action. Thanks for sharing your layout.
Great layout,one of the best I’ve seen.
This layout's rocks . . . rock! Quarry site is special!
thank you for sharing a very detailing video on a very detailing layout well build lots operation throughout layout
I visited this layout in July 2021 and it it a total and complete masterpiece !! Thanks for the tour , Dave ! It was great.
One hell of an awesome job my compliments sir
Thank you!
Great Layout, nice realistic details
There's nothing better than a presentation from a pro(s) who worked it all. Absolutely awe inspiring. Thank you. I'll subscribe for sure.
I loved the Old Dutch Cleanser dirty and weathered car. Reminds me of the carpenter who refuses to work on his own house if you get my drift.
I'm recalling Pegasus, the flying Mobile horse being 2 sets of neon wings alternating the lighting appearing as if it was flying. You just took me back 70 years lol.
That Old Dutch Cleanser weathered reefer was acquired as is from Tony Thompson. I use a lot of modeling license by operating it during my 50s era sessions!
Brilliant! Just the kickstart I needed; I long have been planning a "3-era layout" with WWII, transition, and a bit of mid 1960's thrown in at different spots, with mostly arid SP SoCal and lush Central Coast, but some Santa Fe and UP sharing trackage. This layout in a 20'X20' building covers it all without seeming packed in tight.
Beautiful layout. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Will do!
Anyone would be proud to call this layout their own. Beautiful in all aspects.
Nice layout.
Love the T-shirt on Jerry
This is exactly how I created my three level railroad--no helix's!!! It's all in the scenery!!!
I think it's a cool way to go if you can make it work. Looks like we did, eh?!
@@kazoik Yah! It's all in the loops and the reveerse curves. I intentionally put 4% grades into it so that I could have a helper distrct I have had 12 units pulling and shoving trains up the grade toward Summit. The grade is so stiff that I need real working brakes. I designed a prototype that works great, and I want to go into business with my inventions, but I have Primary Progressive MS and it is really screwinbg things up for me. Would you be interested in running my company? It is called Miniature Railway Foundries. I just can't do it now after my wife died. I need someone to run with it. I don't want to tell everyone on YT about the things that I have dreamt up because they can be stolen. They are so simple, and so easy to put on a layout that I have to be careful talking about it!!! Would you be interested???
@@wasatchrangerailway6921 I appreciate the offer, but I think I will pass on it. I like being retired and plan to keep it that way. Perhaps somebody like David Hussey who owns Cannon & Company might know of someone. www.cannonandco.net
What an amazing aggregate ore site!
A gorgeous view
This layout is right at the Top of the best layouts for character, details and so much more! Great work Dave!!!
Thanks, Jim, but I have to say you're a bit prejudiced! LOL. And, for overall scenery, your Feather River Canyon layout is tops in my book, hands down!
I’m modeling 1910-1935 for the entire layout, with the ability to run both 1935-1965 for about half of the layout that in that time still had rail service, and 1965-present on the main level (it’s a three deck layout) this layout is awesome!
What an awesome layout..
Thank you, Jerry!
Fantastic Job
Thank you for producing these layout tour videos! They are time well spent!
Awesome layout.Thank you.
Thank you, Kevin.
Love that submarine switch at 25:45. We had several on the outfit I worked for. Never knew what was hiding in them. Fabulous layout!
Just now discovered your channel. Great work, great tour. Thank you so much. Joe Buchanan, Mauvaisterre Valley RR.
Awesome, thank you!
It is so amazing all of the private layouts that are out there.
Very Nice !! Thanks
Greetings from Bakersfield. Thank you for sharing your wonderful work.
Wow.. freakin awesome.. thanks for sharing and keep up the great work..Lance
G'day from Australia....Thanks so much for a truly terrific video....Everything is fantastic ...I'm starting out in modern era ATSF/ BNSF merger and this video is inspiring ...Cheers
have been waiting for a longer video nicely done
Another awesome layout.
Thank you!
Beautiful layout, rich in detail. Excellent work.
Thank you, David.
Glad to see your Home Pike Dave, A great layout and equiptment and excellent commentary ! Thanks Dave !
Thank you, Bart. Glad you enjoyed the video. Hope all is well with you on the big UP.
Beautiful layout. Wow.
Thank you JL! Appreciate the comment!!
Even though I am a "Modern Day" N Scaler, I found a lot about Dave's layout which really appealed to me. If I'm ever back in California, I'll make a point of asking to visit!
I just visited the remains of the Amador Central and the Southern Pacific Placerville Branch, nice to see there is actually a model out there!
If your interested in the Amador Central, go to the Amador County Model Railroad Museum in Pine Grove, CA. They model the Amador Central and other locations in California.
Two of my favorite pieces of railroad. Only worked the Placerville Branch to Nimbus (for UP) but I did ride the entire line in 1978 as a "non-paid" brakeman (I knew the crew personally and they convinced me to mark-off my brakeman's job at Central California Traction for a day and ride with them to P'ville. Glad I did!).
@@kazoik you lucky dawg! I've rode the Placerville branch on their '38 Skagit motor car, very fun. Cant wait to ride their full size trains when this pandemic is over. I live near the amador central as well, sad to see what it has become.
very nice layout, thanks for the tour and narration!
I read about this layout in one of the magazines mentioned. I thought it was rather nicely done and very well designed for the space at the time. Seeing the video is even better. You did a wonderful layout tour I wish there were many more done in this format. I must add congratulations on a very well done layout, truly beautiful workmanship and design work.
There's a whole play list of layout tours like this here: th-cam.com/play/PLnxQpj82XbtoGG46eQx2UC56B0sVjs73g.html
Miss Kenny Meeker. RIP.
Mr Larson, thanks so much on explaining your cement plant where it starts off by the conveyerd limestone. Less than eight miles away I believe that is being built. The roller or partial roller is in and a huge 4 to six story building is going up now. Now to the west of those two structures are two six story "water"? tanks then a smaller / wider tank, no clue what will be in it. But all three are together. I'm hoping to model something similar, but primary use will be for making concrete ties for my upcoming layout.
beautiful layout and great story behind it and the way people are honored in the modeling. I was drooling over the SN crossbuck outside and the working wig wag, nice job
Thank you. I crushed my left big toe moving that wig wag back in 1996 but I guess it was worth the pain and blood that followed.
that would be a nice layout to watch someone do switching on. I would do it but I always end up breaking something, so I will just watch. lol
very nice, some of the scratch built industries alone would give you enough to be in awe of for hours.
Switching can be tedious but so far we haven't had too many parts littering the roadbed.
Well done layout and excellent presentation. Thank you from an east coast modeler
Thank you, Joe.
Great layout and good tutorial with some local history , well done Dave 👍
Thank you, Tim.
Very nice!
Thank you, William!
Great layout, Thanks for the tour.
Thank you!
Super nice layout, great attention to detail too! Looks like a fun time during operations.
The amount of cab forwards, shays, and SP consolidations on the HO division of this channel is amazing, but something eastern would be a nice amount of variety. Perhaps two videos on the east, one in the north and one in the south.
It will happen at some point. Where I live, western North American railroads are what's modeled on most layouts. There are three east coast-themed layouts on my radar to do layout tours here, though. Just have to get back to being able to get together in person.
@@tsgmultimedia Understandable, have a great day. All I can think of is just this little mainline in the thick woods as a big green pacific goes rolling by with matching coaches, then a black consolidation huffing and puffing along with a long freight...
Would love to see more of the layout very impressive thanks for posting
Wow John what a great video!! And what a beautiful layout! Couldn't stop watching. Take care!
Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated!
@@kazoik absolutely amazing Dave! Just fantastic!
I see a fault zone at the tunnel entrance, excellent detail. Your weathering of the rolling stock is equally excellent. Best regards
Odd the fisherman's reeling in the rainbow trout on a windy day on the lake there. Nice to see it looks so realistic.
That's a really nice layout. Some nice looking locomotives as well. Nice to see some of the local short lines represented
Glad you enjoyed the video. Shortlines will always be at the top of my list of favorites.
Hi John - Beautiful layout and Dave did a great job of explaining the railroad and providing background regarding the various names of businesses, etc. Very well done video and thanks so much for sharing! Mike
Glad you enjoyed it. We do run a "Denver" local which currently sports a pair of Rock Island GP7s (power/caboose get swapped around between sessions, using either Rock, CB&Q or D&RGW). Train originates in staging, interchanges at Junction City and then works a few on line industries before returning to staging.
Great job Dave!! I'll have to drop by to see my next time up north.
Love how realistic the layout is
Thank you. We're trying...
Hey Dave. My name is Russ Soares. Maybe you remember me. Love the railroad. I worked with you on the layout in Lodi. A man at a rail show told me how to find you 😁 good seein ya. Workin on a N scale11X 3 1/2 thats pretty awesome. Donner style. Take care
I thoroughly enjoyed the tour, partly because I'm familiar with some of the areas (Victor, Grey Rocks, Acampo, Sand Pass, etc). Lots of great details to see and search for,
Glad you enjoyed the tour, Tony!
Great layout and I love watching the southern Pacific locomotives. I run some Texas and New Orleans steam on my way out.
Right on!
Very excellent video..,. You guys did a great job , so awesome 👍 I have to much city but that's where I grew up so I know a lot about it. Being your responsibility retired do you use the trains alot? You all have great experience on the railroad so that helped a lot.. again great work guys, joe
Dave, great layout, thank you for sharing, I enjoyed the tour JP from Chester UK
Thank you, John!
As much as I like the O Gauge size, I think the HO looks more realistic to me. It's so life like.
Yeah. I wish ho didn’t cost that much tho for sound. I mean I could put a sound decoder in them.
HO is the perfect size in my opinion. Not so small that it's impossible to get good details, not too big that you can't have a nice sized layout.
The chuckle the man gave when telling the story of the "Tequila Shela Bar/Brothel" made me laugh! That HAS to be one of the funniest moments I have heard on a layout tour! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just don't call her Sheila! 😂
Really nice layout. I enjoyed the tour.
Thank you!
Very realistic
Thank you!
Love your layout and especially the CABFORWARD. That is my favorite engine.
Thank you. I appreciate your comments.
Fantastic layout! My father grew up around the SP. gives me an idea of what he saw
Thank you! I remember quite a bit of it as a kid. As far as SP steam, I can recall hearing an occasional whistle while visiting my grandparents in downtown Sacramento...but no visual memories.
Very nice my compliments sir
Thank you!
Love the realistic operations!
Thank you, Larry.
Tom Eaton always bragged about your layout glad I finally got to see it! Good work on everyone’s part!
Thanks Ray!
Very nice. Nice detailing and weathering. Always nice to see the SP modeled.
Model trains never start or stop smoothly or creep very well. Seems like a free rolling gear set would help that. Also, the loco sounds always need more bass. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
I love that AMC s-12
That's Pat Davis' Baldwin. Painted and decaled (made his own decals if I'm not mistaken) Stewart model with added LOK sound.
Wonderful layout, I am impressed how you took advantage of the helix to make scenery sections. Is there any webpage page with pictures of that section to see how the levels blend together???... Congratulations!. I have the 2019 magazine and after re-reading it today I surfed youtube and boom! there it was, the real thing!!
J.f.makuck to the r r. Freek keep on the high rail,great video try to get in touch with you in the near future.
Beautiful layout and tour 👍 !!!
Appreciate that, Kraig.
My father in law retired from the WP as the swing shift roundhouse foreman at Oakland yard. Last name Chase. Did you know him?
Maybe I'm missing it but one thing about sound systems. I never seem to hear that distinctive clack-clack sound from when the wheels of cars or engines run over the rail joints on pre-welded rail. I do realize it would be a bear to install. The number of speakers involved to have the sound localized for a large layout would be prohibitive most likely. Add in sensors to trip the circuit for when a wheel passes over a joint etc. It might be something for somebody to look into for use on a limited basis at grade crossings and such.
Myself I have enough trouble getting the red electricicles to go down the red wire and the black ones the black. Multi-colored wire is a real puzzle. 😉
Nice layout by the way 👍
Thank you!
Lindo
Love your layout. I was wondering what you used for the sweet beet loads?
Dave told me when we were recording, but I don't remember now.
Is there any way to get a hold of Dave by email? I really liked it.
He checks this comment thread from time to time. I'd be surprised if he doesn't chime in at some point.
The beets are anise seed. I picked them along a nearby country road (had to shuck them too!) but you can buy them in the spice section of your grocery store. A bit expensive though!
How are you simulating your sugarbeet loads ?
I use anise seed that was growing wild near my home. Had to do my own shucking which was time consuming. You can find it in the spice rack at your grocery store but it's not cheap.
The swift building on the top level, is it an old suydam kit?
Yes, it's a Suydam kit I had sitting on the shelf for several decades.
First I want to start by saying this is an incredible layout. Wonderfully done. Lots of hidden gems throughout. Small details like the fisherman in the beginning, the globes on the gas pumps that glow, and many other small scenes that make the layout so nice. I enjoyed it very much. 👍👍
Was the train, in the opening scene at Oakwilde, coming down grade while coming through and out of that cut? It looked like a fairly steep grade. If it's not my eyes are playing tricks on me or maybe it was the camera angle. I'm not sure. Again wonderful layout. Great video. I can't wait to see what the next video holds in store for all us viewers. 👍🎅❄🎄☃️
Thank you for your comments, William. At Oakwilde, the main line (against the backdrop) is about a 2% grade. The climb from the drill track back up to the main is short but steep, above 4 percent. Two places I worked in the real RR world had switching leads that were exceptionally steep, the Best (Fertilizer) run-around at Lathrop, California on the SP and the Steed Industrial lead on the WP's Reno Branch. Handling short cuts of cars never proved to be an issue with either.
What is the name of the locomotive at 29:26?
That is an AC4/5 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2, numbered incorrectly as an AC6. Broadway Limited manufactured the locomotive but we installed a Soundtraxx decoder and discarded the factory supplied QSI decoder.
@@kazoik ah ok thank you, an impressive locomotive design
@@stefanlorse2249 the cab forward was a design unique to Southern Pacific, to prevent crew asphyxiation while traveling through the tunnels and snowsheds in California.
If you guys see Dave in public, please do not mob him for autographs!
Haha...give me a break JA.
@@kazoik One break... Coming up!
You'll notice I got my autographs before telling everyone else not to. :)
Theres been several times I've seen celebrities in airports etc and been on the same flights. I would never approach them for an autograph. The only time we did that was after Braves games when I was a kid. And that was at Milwaukee County Stadium which shows I old I am
@@mpetersen6 might that have been Hammering Hank Aaron or perhaps Eddie Matthews?? I remember them well too!
Love the layout, just incredible! I don't understand what a "Southern Pacific Torpedo Boat" is- please, when you use nonsensical terminology (Southern Pacific has never owned any actual Torpedo Boats), please explain what you really mean by it. Thanks.
Did you try searching for it on Google?
@@tsgmultimedia
I did and I got links to videos of GP-9s
Angie, the four SP passenger-service GP9s, 5622-5625 (later 3004-3007) didn't have dynamic brake fans and grids on their roof but instead had air reservoir tanks, resembling "torpedoes" thus the nickname torpedo boat.
@@tsgmultimedia Yes, of course I did, before I posted my question. Nothing about railroads. A lot about "PT Boats" and John F. Kennedy.
@@mpetersen6 Oh, please. I got at least 50 hits Googling "torpedo boat" and ALL OF THEM WERE ABOUT NAVAL VESSELS. Not the first (none, zilch, zero, zip, nada) mention of anything to do with any railroad whatsoever. Maybe you have a different brand of Google in your location. Or maybe you're full of sh*t.