Thanks! Two years later still useful. Had a 4in1 MPM bootloader failure on my trusty T12 Pro that prevented flashing updates . The MPM in a T16 looks is very similar to the T12 Pro with the 5 pin mini plug, so gave this a go. Worked perfectly!
I also do the same, watch quad videos of fixes/repairs/modifications/upgrades of products I don't have, because more than once I've remembered a detail in the future when I eventually own that product or see someone else asking for help about that product and can point them towards the video that could help them.
If anyone is having problems with their cp2102 especially the driver, just use zadig and install the serial driver and you should be good to go. Thanks again JB for this wonderful tutorial.
Thanks worked perfectly! I used a FTD1232 usb to serial adapter and then wired it up like you showed. Green and white together to 3.3v, red to tx, yellow to rx, black to ground. Plugged in and showed the new com port as soon as Windows10 figured out the drivers which was about 60 seconds. Upload and done. Also did the external charging mod with the high capacity 5000mah 21700 battery pack from Bob AZ on RCGroups. Love this radio.
Hello Joshua, please make a video about the current "bad radio data" problem with the Jumper T16 where you loose all data on the radio after you write to the radio with Open TX companion. This is a big problem since 2.3.x Thank you!
Hi Joshua I really need help I have the Plus version. So I purchased internal rf multi module installed it yesterday . Here is my problem according to the radio it doesn’t exist. No option in the list please help ! Regards Steve
I seemed to to think in the beginning of the video that once I had the 4in1 bootloader update installed that I would not have to go inside the unit again for the next 4in1 update to to do the update?
Yes, that’s right. The bootloader allows for installing future firmwares just by using the OpenTX interface (and SD card and/or USB to transfer the file).
When I got to bootloader (HORUS) then flash firmware then my bin file "invalid format", there was nothing different then if I were flashing opentx, got there the usual way trims in power on, is there something different to do somewhere?
Hello Joshua, I updated my T16 with the new firmware and the internal module menu disappeared. can you help me? I can no longer use the radio with any receiver. Thanks
FYI to you and others who may have problems. I got a T16 pro just as they came out with a bootloader the ...85 version. I followed your open TX companion video and added my first model FrSky D16. Now I see that v1.2.1.83 added automatic tuning of RF frequency during binding for FrSky and remembered a range issues and decided to update by placing the firmware multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv-v1.3.0.47 (same as you selected in this video). I updated the internal module and got the message in the module status line "No MULTI_TELEMETRY detected". Much messing around later... To get this to go away I had to go to my model and change the multi protocol module to off and then back on... set it back to FrSky D16 before it behaved properly. Turning the radio off and then on again will not be enough. You probably didn't encounter this as your first model was Crossfire and so it wasn't using the internal module.
I did upgraded the firmare on my internal module, but still it is not allowing me to install internal firmware, looks like the bootloader is not uploaded, now the new version is 1.3.0.47 from CP2102
just a heads up , I just did this exactly as shown but with a different USB adapter but still with same connections and as soon as I connected the USB, the radio started to slowly chirp...I programmed it anyway and all is good with version 1.3.0.53
What if I have the original none jumper t16 pro version. I have the original version so, which firmware do I pick to download or will pro version work?
Mr. Bardwell, I bought my T16 pro last week and when I go into the model screen all I have is options for external rf. I do not have any internal rf menu functions. I am trying to bind with a Tinyhawk freestyle I just bought but I can’t because I don’t have an internal rf selection in my menu. Please help. I also when I go into the create model screen, I can only select glider even though I see both Glider and Plane. I dont know if this issue is related but I was told to select plane or multi rotor but I don’t even see multi rotor and I can’t select plane
I am going to guess that you flashed opentx to the radio, and when you flashed it, you did not enable the "internalmulti" option in OpenTX companion. This will cause the internal module not to show up.
Hi I have a Jumper JP4IN1 module and find that with OpenTx after Ver 2.4 I cannot use it. When multi is selected it shows 130 and say I need to update the firmware. When I try to update the firmware it say I cannot because it doesnt have a boot loader - I cannot find out where to get or how to install a boot loader - HELP !!!
Hey Joshua, is the cp210 the same as an ftdi adapter? I have an ftdi from when I had to update my kiss24re's that looks almost exactly like what you're using.
They are more or less the same but be sure the FTDI is not outputting 5v or it will fry the module. FTDI usually output 5v but some are switchable to 3.3v. CP210 usually outputs 3.3v.
@@JoshuaBardwell Awesome! Thanks for the tip, mine is switchable. Also, I wish y'all would do a meetup or tape a RR episode here in DFW area. I'd love to fly with you...Ok I admit it. I'd probably be bugging you with technical questions. But we would get at least one or two packs in
I feel like I did what you said but when I go to model it says to update module recommended. And I'm trying to find where to do that but it's confusing
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you, Joshua, Hey I updated to the latest firmware R THE MOBULA6 HDZERO and now my tx16s won't bind then updated my radio with edge tx, that didn't work went back to the firmware that happy model said would work which was 4.3.1 through Beataflight and still nothing. My drone goes into bind mode I think it does flash fast but not crazy fast like I'm use to on other drones so i figured that was there version of flashing fast I did manage to bind and fly the radio before i updated the firmware should of just left the damn thing alone, any advice would be helpful. LOL Ive been working on this for 4 days now there is little information I can find on the matter. I'm ready to throw this little whoop on the self and buy another one, but I don't wanna. It will be nice one day if Beatfight program would tell you the cause of the issue for some of the problems we run into. Only in a perfect world.
Got a quick question I updated the internal module and I noticed on mine the module status says V1.3.0.47 AETR and on yours it doesnt show AETR at the end. is there a difference in firmware?
How do you flash internal multi protocol module on NEWER Jumper T16? Do I still have to take it apart just for the upgrade?? I have the one that came with Internal Multiprotocol board installed. After upgrade to OpenTX 2.3.4, In my model setup page where you bind receiver, I now have a flashing msg. by Module Status "Module update recommended" It would normally state V1.2.1.51. Of course I emailed Jumper support and they couldn't help, even sent them a picture of the Screen. I tried flash-multi-0.2.3. It does not see my COM ports . Every other application does. Betaflight, OpenTX Companion, etc. Please assist if you can
No, you don't have to take it apart. Put the firmware file in the FIRMWARES folder on your SD card, then in the radio press SYS and PAGE to the SD card contents. Navigate into the FIRMWARES folder, highlight the firmware file, and then long-press the jog wheel and select "flash internal module".
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks JB, I included a short video link so you could see more detail. th-cam.com/video/U2iu_E1Jdtw/w-d-xo.html I have tried that, however, I receive an update failed msg. I have to be honest and tell you that I flashed the radio with Horus 10 Access Protocol by mistake. The part were you tell us to be careful :( I think flashing this firmware the radio somehow screwed up the internal module. Just wanted to share this experience. Thanks to China for spare parts! :)
@@JoshuaBardwell hi Joshua! Love your videos. I just received my internal module from China, to upgrade my T16 with. This internal module did not have the 5 pin Molex PicoBlade connector on it, so I fashioned a temporary harness. I can't seem to find the file specific to my module, and in addition, if the module has a bootloader, doesn't that mean I could load a new firmware through OpenTX directly into the internal module? Thanks!
Great video however ran in to two issues or maybe not issues but something to consider for folks that may not know enough about the computer end of things. Number one they need to to get the driver software up and running on the pc or mac for the 2102. I myself was wondering why my com port was not registering but figured it out quickly. Second thing that happened that just about gave me a heart attack was this. After everything loaded up well I did what you said and plugged in a battery then powered up to check firmware authenticity and was greeted with a tone and the on screen message saying EMERGENCY ONLY. I said on no man don't tell me this is going to have to go back to jumper now lol !!!!!! On my radio the T16 Pro there is a safety switch on the rear and if you do not have that switch pushed in by placing the rear housing back on you get that tone and message. I thought about it instantly after having the panic moment and said there must be a safety switch ,and there was. All good now thanks to your videos as always so please keep delivering the great content. Thank you much........
Dear Joshua, many thanks for the video, I was able to flash Multi module. But now I'm not able to correctly configure my son's Carbon Cub Safe+ receiver after binding (Spektrum receiver with GPS). I think it could be due to different channel order (now AETR, Spektrum standard TAER). So I'd like to re-flash the module. How it is possible? I tried to apply your video procedure but it seems to work just for the first time. Thank you in advance
After you have flashed the latest version, you now have bootloader. So you can flash the firmware as follows. First, download the firmware file to the FIRMWARES folder on your SD card. In the T16, long-press SYS, then page to SD card contents. Use the scroll wheel to navigate into the FIRMWARES folder. Highlight the file, long-press the scroll wheel, and choose "flash internal module".
Ok, my 4in1 firmware is v1.3.0.44 and want to upgrade to v1.3.0.47. When I got to bootloader (HORUS) then flash firmware from the bin file I get "invalid format" (as I figured), there was nothing different then if I were flashing opentx vs flashing 4in1, got there the usual way trims in power on, 1.3.0.47 file in sd card. Is there something different to do somewhere?
You don't do it from the bootloader. You do it from the SD card. You navigate to the SD card and long-press the bin file and "flash to internal module" or "external module" if that's what you have.
Hi Josh I don't actually have a T16 but I do have Jumper 4in1 modules in my X9D+ and X10. Other than the boot loader thing which I know that my radios have do I still choose the same firmware, channel order notwithstanding, that you did? What difference to invert and not invert make? What benefits are there to updating to the latest firmware?
Hi Joshua, Thanks for sharing My issue is when i am changing models my T16 crashes any solution for the crash I saw Open TX 2.3 is having T16 can it just work by downloading the firmware on to the radio, will it work or I still have to stick with 2.2 X10 horus
so how do i get the module firmware to flash? i currently have the 2.3.5 for my reciever firmware and need to flash internal from 1.3.0.44 to 1.3.0.53.
Hi JB, Please can you tell me what software you use to record your screen please? I'm trying to troubleshoot with a friend and I need to show him how I do things on my PC and send it in a video to him. Thank you in advance.
@@JoshuaBardwell Excellent, thank you. I just downloaded it and when I installed it it configured my PC based on detected hardware. I can now record my screen. Thank you JB
I need a new motherboard, I broke the ribbon cable connector off on the bottom doing this update. And parts are hard to find. Back to the QX7 till I find one.
Is there a real reason besides "cuz I can!" to update the internal module if I'm on the older version but have no problems using frsky receivers and the crossfire?!
No need to update the module firmware if you plan on keeping jumpertx as the radio firmware, but if you update to open tx with original module firmware you lose the low latency dsmx rx option (x11ms). Theres also an annoying warning that flashes in the setup menu.
ftdi adapter works as well, be sure it's set to 3.3v or else you'll fry the processor. I believe cp210 was created to get around ftdi patent/copyrights.
Fark. If I order the cp210 adapter from Banggood it will take 3-4 weeks. If I order it from Amazon the total cost will be upwards of 20 bucks (I don't have Amazon Prime), and it will arrive in probably a week. I need that money for a new flight controller I'm saving up for. I wonder if Fry's has them in stock. That's only a 40-mile drive RT. I have an USB AVR thing for flashing ESCs (back in the day), but it isn't clear whether that would work. I don't mind performing the update procedure, but i wish it did not require this adapter that I don't have on hand. Meanwhile since I updated my T16 to OpenTx 2.3.4, it's flashing "firmware update recommended" in the model setup using the internal module. It's too cold to fly anyway, my hands stiffen up pretty fast, I guess I'll just order it from Banggood. And I still haven't ordered a case for the T16! I better cheer up - things could always be worse. Happy New Year!
Your next video should be how to replace the antenna cable on the internal module. Both of my T16's output 43-50mw stock. After replacing the cable and connector I get about 90mw (tested with imrc power meter new version). I chose to use a hot air reflow gun to remove the connector and solder my cable directly but I have seen a few people suggest you can find cables with the connector on it. I have not checked the swr yet. I get noticably less rssi warnings when flying around my tree filled property after the mod. The stock cable is junk.
If you changed from UFL to direct-solder, most likely that is the reason for the increased power output. But many people will fry the board trying to direct-solder coax this small. It's possible that a low-loss coax cable would improve the output some even with UFL though. But getting one the correct length is important.
Put the firmware file into the firmware folder on the SD card. In the radio long press SYS key and page to the SD card contents. Navigate to the firmware file. Highlight it. Long press the jog wheel. "flash to internal".
Joshua Bardwell I downloaded and installed V1.3.0.47 hoping to get the graupner HoTT protocol but it doesn’t show up in multi list as an option. Any idea what I did wrong?
I have now tried everything. Verified that I soldered it all up properly - Still nothing - Unable to open Com port. I then checked RC Groups article. Desoldered the 3.3v - and attempted to boot with USB in, then battery, then turn on. Screen says Emergency Recovery.
Unable to open COM port is a driver or app issue not anything to do with the wiring to the module. You can open the COM port simply by plugging in the programming adapter, if you have the drivers etc set up correctly.
I updated my MPM today, but for some reason my right slider isn't calibrating....Since I spent like 10 mins with the thing in JumperOS, I can't be sure if it's a bad slider or an OPenTX thing. To test I tried to revert back to JumperTX from their web site. When I go to flash from the bootloader screen it freezes and wont let me flash back to Jumper. grrrr. Anyone have any experience flashing this thing back or do I need to undo the MPM firmware update first? Is that even possible?
@@darkness1943 Thanks for the reply. got excited and thought this might actually help, I was using RC2 but anyways, I went ahead and updated to latest NB, still no right slider..When I go to system settings I can see the right slider on Analog input 11, but that isn't mapped to RS. Same goes for the 6 position switch...also not working. I wonder if there is a way to map analog 11 to right slider? Anyone know?
How do you update the internal module??? Do you just download the bin from the link in the description, put it on the SD under "FIRMWARE" and flash it in bootloader mode on the T16?
@@pepi560 Have your TX powered on>Plug in USB cable>Select "USB Storage">Place the file in "Firmware">Disconnect USB>Hold "Sys" button>Page 1 time to SD-HC Card>Scroll to "Firmware" and select>Select the file>Hold scroll wheel button> Select "Flash Internal Multi" and it will write the file.
Hey Joshua, Thanks for all the great videos. I just bought a Jumper TX16 Pro and when I bound it to my first Spektrum RX, the DSM2 internal module flashes with a message that says module upgrade recommended. It bound to the RX okay, but I'm wondering if I really need to flash the module or not. How do you determine whether or not you need to? I really only have Spektrum RX's and I just bought a couple of new Jumper RX's so I don't force needing to upgrade to new protocols. What say you?
HELP NEEDED 😫 I had the OpenTX 2.2.3 nightlies on my T16 working. Installed the RC1, and the T16 froze over. Now, getting the intro OpenTX welcome message, the system goes directly to calibration. No buttons work. And I am stuck. Have tried to go back to nightlies, back to JumperTX, latest RC2. The T16 remains frozen. Anyone?
deinstall Campanion rc1 and install newest nightly build. In Settings choose Nightly Unstable NOT stable or Release candidate❗ Download Firmware AND Say NO to RC1 Download if campanion asks Flash to T16. copy Newest SD Content as well. hope it works for You👍
Joshua, thank you for all the T16 videos. Question, I don't have the CP210 adapter so I know when I update to OpenTX it will be warning me to update my internal module firmware. Is it still safe to use the transmitter until I can obtain the CP210 adapter and flash the internal module or do you suggest I wait to update until I get the CP210 adapter? I fly drones and wings with this transmitter and use spektrum rx on my wing. I'm aware of a major bug fix for the spektrum rx so I wanted to update to OpenTX but want to make sure it's safe to do and then address the internal module firmware later on.
Isn't the channel order for protocols where you can't change it? for betaflight its no big deal, shuffle channels around with AETR1234 and rearrange those letters as needed, but for an E011 using bayang protocol...
The multi-protocol module changes the channel to match each protocol...so it has to know what it is starting with...i set mine to AETR and when i bind to my spectrum recievers (TAER) nothing needs remapped
OpenTX 2.3.3 (RC) now displays the channel order after the version number of the module firmware. Still a little bit confused about why there is a fixed channel order for the module.
@@tastenheber each protocol uses a different channel order, you select the one you like to use in the radio, and flash the module with the matching one, then when you select the protocol the module can remap from your preferred channel order to what the protocol uses and then you dont have to bother changing the programming
Wierd, mine shipped with Open TX. It is version 1.3.0.44. The start sequence says "Welcome to Open TX" and the splash screen says OpenTX. Maybe it's not really Open TX. Can anybody elaborate on that?
Hi Joshua - great work - I like your delivery. Question have you done a video to upgrade external module with firmware version prior to 1.2.1.85? I'm not sure whether to power via TX or usb to serial adapter? and using Fast Multi?
@@JoshuaBardwell I'm flashing an external module so I don't need RxSR cable? just wire direct from serial adapter to module board? sorry I'm bit new to this. I have flashed previous modules ok but this new module doesn't have a usb port.
As far as I can see, any USB to serial adapter like the ftdi and other chipped devices will work just fine, you don't need the exact one used in this video.
I am having the worst luck in doing this update. I have tried doint this update with the Arduino Nano, AND the Arduino Uno. And of course as a Mac user i needed to borrow my brothers HP Windows computer. I Cant seem to get past the 1/3 Erasing. EVERYTHING! Except doing this JB's way. If the Arduino can be used as a USB to Serial Adaptor i am having the worst luck EVER!!! This is the worst firmware upgrade process i have ever had to do, and i can not seem to find the same internal module available for purchase as a plug and play situation... I knew i should have waited a bit longer before making the purchase....
As a mac user I feel your pain. I had a similar issue - when I plugged in the adapter to USB, I the windows computer recognized something was plugged in, but did not create a new serial port for it. I had to download specific drivers for the adapter on my Windows machine - something you dont have to do on a Mac. Once I had the drivers installed, it immediately created a new serial port when plugged in and the process went smoothly from that point. Good luck.
Update : I just flashed the Multi-module Boot loader with a FTDI adapter (FT232RL) that was lying at home. And all is good. Updated BL to 0.5.0 and Firmware to 1.3.1.69
First Joshua, you don't need connect to 3.3Volt❗ Only White and green together. If you turn on the Radio and enable the internal modul... Yes TMac has a very good tutorials about Jumper T16 Radios
@@JoshuaBardwell Sorry... about that by me, first try... it works with no problem. By the way, last Firmware Update ...47 (bootloader pre installed) with Opentx Internal Flasher... works also perfect. Jumper delivers T16 now with Pre installed Bootloader... so they said...
That little board looks almost identical to a TP4056! 😮 (I use them a lot, for charging batteries internally in my projects!) Anyway, great job, Joshua! Really nice! 😃
When I did the upload the first time Step 1 Erasing Flash Memory failed. Started again reloaded the update and boom....away she went. So hang in there if you get an error first up and Mr Bardwell, thank you.
Thanks for the hours to speak! Please, could we assign an aux to desactivate internal (&external?) module in order to lower mAmps used? In addition to the screen off function, that will be a pleasure to leave my rc switched on during a whole session with friends without carrying 10 reboot a day... Timers and caution could help me not to forget hours... 😂
Thanks. My question was regarding internal module, so i suppose i could do your trick inverted 😊 an aux will be more convenient, if that could be coupled with a "pre arm" function to avoid to reswitch it on by mistake, and forgetting in for a while... A second idea is to be able to boot the transmitter in low power mode, in order to be "safer" on bench and on the field regarding health for "high" frequency users that fpv players could be. Often, the remote could be on few minutes before and afer the flight (so your trick is usefull for me 👍). Nevertheless, 3 minutes trip by flight will cause to boot very frequently, and i am not sure that electronics life tests are checking it. I won't do it with a computer after each game over... 😅
Well I suppose this is an upside to not having the internal module for my T16 yet, except I already forked out for the external module. Meaning in the future when I want to have my Crossfire 'permanently' plugged in I'm going to have to buy the multi module again (internal version) leaving me with a useless piece of hardware :-/ Hey, anyone want to buy an external multi module cheap? :D
Thanks! Two years later still useful. Had a 4in1 MPM bootloader failure on my trusty T12 Pro that prevented flashing updates . The MPM in a T16 looks is very similar to the T12 Pro with the 5 pin mini plug, so gave this a go. Worked perfectly!
Thanks! Helped me out 3 years later.... I had my T16 in storage due to the pandemic.
I don't have the jumper t16. I just like to watch and learn. Great video.
I also do the same, watch quad videos of fixes/repairs/modifications/upgrades of products I don't have, because more than once I've remembered a detail in the future when I eventually own that product or see someone else asking for help about that product and can point them towards the video that could help them.
Literally did this with TMac's video like 2 hours ago with my T16 Pro, but I'll still watch your video for the fun of it 😊😊
Tmac is hilarious but knows his stuff.
Me too. Worked like a charm!
Thanks a lot from a user in France. My T 16 pro works again. Very good video.
If anyone is having problems with their cp2102 especially the driver, just use zadig and install the serial driver and you should be good to go.
Thanks again JB for this wonderful tutorial.
Thanks worked perfectly! I used a FTD1232 usb to serial adapter and then wired it up like you showed. Green and white together to 3.3v, red to tx, yellow to rx, black to ground. Plugged in and showed the new com port as soon as Windows10 figured out the drivers which was about 60 seconds. Upload and done. Also did the external charging mod with the high capacity 5000mah 21700 battery pack from Bob AZ on RCGroups. Love this radio.
08:53 I don't get an additional comms port when I plug in. Any suggestions?
help please mine in falsh multi doesnt detect the serial port
im using the ft232rl
Literally did this 20 minutes a ago following TMacs video. Thank you for this though, still gonna watch after work! LOL
Thanks again Bardwell, easy to own a jumper when you are around.
You will now be known as Jump Bardwell love your vids have mine setup the same as yours just need the yellow switch covers
Hello Joshua, please make a video about the current "bad radio data" problem with the Jumper T16 where you loose all data on the radio after you write to the radio with Open TX companion. This is a big problem since 2.3.x Thank you!
Did this the other day. You can also use a FTDI board to update. Did the wiring exactly how you did it.
What size connector is this 5 pin cable. I can't find the right one.
Hi Joshua I really need help I have the Plus version. So I purchased internal rf multi module installed it yesterday . Here is my problem according to the radio it doesn’t exist. No option in the list please help ! Regards Steve
I seemed to to think in the beginning of the video that once I had the 4in1 bootloader update installed that I would not have to go inside the unit
again for the next 4in1 update to to do the update?
is the video not complete? I think I heard you say the next 4in1 fw can be done from the sd card?
Yes, that’s right. The bootloader allows for installing future firmwares just by using the OpenTX interface (and SD card and/or USB to transfer the file).
Yes that's correct. Once the bootloader is installed you can update module firmware from the SD card without opening the radio.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks, mine came with bootloader (v1.3.0.44) so I'll give a whirl.
When I got to bootloader (HORUS) then flash firmware then my bin file "invalid format", there was nothing different then if I were flashing opentx, got there the usual
way trims in power on, is there something different to do somewhere?
Hello Joshua,
I updated my T16 with the new firmware and the internal module menu disappeared.
can you help me?
I can no longer use the radio with any receiver.
Thanks
You did not enable the "internalmulti" option in Companion before downloading the firmware.
Joshua Bardwell Ok! I will try again tonight. Thank you for your help. See ya!
Can you keep Boot Loader on SD Card...???
FYI to you and others who may have problems.
I got a T16 pro just as they came out with a bootloader the ...85 version.
I followed your open TX companion video and added my first model FrSky D16.
Now I see that v1.2.1.83 added automatic tuning of RF frequency during binding for FrSky and remembered a range issues and decided to update by placing the firmware multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv-v1.3.0.47 (same as you selected in this video).
I updated the internal module and got the message in the module status line "No MULTI_TELEMETRY detected". Much messing around later... To get this to go away I had to go to my model and change the multi protocol module to off and then back on... set it back to FrSky D16 before it behaved properly. Turning the radio off and then on again will not be enough.
You probably didn't encounter this as your first model was Crossfire and so it wasn't using the internal module.
I did upgraded the firmare on my internal module, but still it is not allowing me to install internal firmware, looks like the bootloader is not uploaded, now the new version is 1.3.0.47 from CP2102
just a heads up , I just did this exactly as shown but with a different USB adapter but still with same connections and as soon as I connected the USB, the radio started to slowly chirp...I programmed it anyway and all is good with version 1.3.0.53
What if I have the original none jumper t16 pro version. I have the original version so, which firmware do I pick to download or will pro version work?
Mr. Bardwell, I bought my T16 pro last week and when I go into the model screen all I have is options for external rf. I do not have any internal rf menu functions. I am trying to bind with a Tinyhawk freestyle I just bought but I can’t because I don’t have an internal rf selection in my menu. Please help. I also when I go into the create model screen, I can only select glider even though I see both Glider and Plane. I dont know if this issue is related but I was told to select plane or multi rotor but I don’t even see multi rotor and I can’t select plane
I am going to guess that you flashed opentx to the radio, and when you flashed it, you did not enable the "internalmulti" option in OpenTX companion. This will cause the internal module not to show up.
Joshua Bardwell You were right, thanks a bunch. You are the man!!!!!!
How could I do this with the EdgeTX software? Would I download the same module files?
Yes exactly the same
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you sir! We would be lost without you!
Joshua will this convertor work - HiLetgo FT232RL FTDI Mini USB to TTL Serial Converter Adapter?
to perform this upgrade?
Hello
Nice video helpfull
I got a message protocol invalid in the statut.... Try to flash with the sd card with no succes
I used the card to make the new firmware. Isn't it so troublesome! Am I wrong? Please advise. Thank you
Hi I have a Jumper JP4IN1 module and find that with OpenTx after Ver 2.4 I cannot use it. When multi is selected it shows 130 and say I need to update the firmware. When I try to update the firmware it say I cannot because it doesnt have a boot loader - I cannot find out where to get or how to install a boot loader - HELP !!!
This video explains how to flash the bootloader 😊
Hey Joshua, is the cp210 the same as an ftdi adapter? I have an ftdi from when I had to update my kiss24re's that looks almost exactly like what you're using.
They are more or less the same but be sure the FTDI is not outputting 5v or it will fry the module. FTDI usually output 5v but some are switchable to 3.3v. CP210 usually outputs 3.3v.
@@JoshuaBardwell Awesome! Thanks for the tip, mine is switchable.
Also, I wish y'all would do a meetup or tape a RR episode here in DFW area. I'd love to fly with you...Ok I admit it. I'd probably be bugging you with technical questions. But we would get at least one or two packs in
I feel like I did what you said but when I go to model it says to update module recommended. And I'm trying to find where to do that but it's confusing
What firmware version did you flash to the module? Does the firmware version on the module match that?
@@JoshuaBardwell 1.2.1.85
And yes
I HAVE THE TX16S MARK2 AND UNDER INTERNAL RF I DO NOT HAVE MODUAL STATUS OR THE BIND BUTTON. HELP!
I'm guessing you bought the expresslrs version of the radio so it doesn't have a 4 in 1 module and so those options don't apply.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you, Joshua, Hey I updated to the latest firmware R THE MOBULA6 HDZERO and now my tx16s won't bind then updated my radio with edge tx, that didn't work went back to the firmware that happy model said would work which was 4.3.1 through Beataflight and still nothing. My drone goes into bind mode I think it does flash fast but not crazy fast like I'm use to on other drones so i figured that was there version of flashing fast I did manage to bind and fly the radio before i updated the firmware should of just left the damn thing alone, any advice would be helpful. LOL Ive been working on this for 4 days now there is little information I can find on the matter. I'm ready to throw this little whoop on the self and buy another one, but I don't wanna. It will be nice one day if Beatfight program would tell you the cause of the issue for some of the problems we run into. Only in a perfect world.
Is there a way to factory reset the jumper T16? I may have an issue.
Got a quick question I updated the internal module and I noticed on mine the module status says V1.3.0.47 AETR and on yours it doesnt show AETR at the end. is there a difference in firmware?
What about original external jp4in1 module that jumper T16 has? Do we need the same way to flash it? Thanks in advance
It has a built in USB plug. You don't need the CP210 adapter.
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you, will try to update it tonight 😀👍
Is the X9D as powerful as the T16? Signal Distance wise.
How do you flash internal multi protocol module on NEWER Jumper T16? Do I still have to take it apart just for the upgrade?? I have the one that came with Internal Multiprotocol board installed. After upgrade to OpenTX 2.3.4, In my model setup page where you bind receiver, I now have a flashing msg. by Module Status "Module update recommended" It would normally state V1.2.1.51. Of course I emailed Jumper support and they couldn't help, even sent them a picture of the Screen. I tried flash-multi-0.2.3. It does not see my COM ports . Every other application does. Betaflight, OpenTX Companion, etc. Please assist if you can
No, you don't have to take it apart. Put the firmware file in the FIRMWARES folder on your SD card, then in the radio press SYS and PAGE to the SD card contents. Navigate into the FIRMWARES folder, highlight the firmware file, and then long-press the jog wheel and select "flash internal module".
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks JB, I included a short video link so you could see more detail. th-cam.com/video/U2iu_E1Jdtw/w-d-xo.html
I have tried that, however, I receive an update failed msg. I have to be honest and tell you that I flashed the radio with Horus 10 Access Protocol by mistake. The part were you tell us to be careful :( I think flashing this firmware the radio somehow screwed up the internal module. Just wanted to share this experience. Thanks to China for spare parts! :)
@@JoshuaBardwell How do I know if my T16 has boodloader or not ?
Anyone have a link for the cable that is CONUS?
Hello Joshua..
Can T16 bind to flysky AfHDS reciever?
Do the later internal modules have bootloaders?
Any one you get today already should have bootloader on it.
@@JoshuaBardwell hi Joshua! Love your videos. I just received my internal module from China, to upgrade my T16 with. This internal module did not have the 5 pin Molex PicoBlade connector on it, so I fashioned a temporary harness. I can't seem to find the file specific to my module, and in addition, if the module has a bootloader, doesn't that mean I could load a new firmware through OpenTX directly into the internal module? Thanks!
Great video however ran in to two issues or maybe not issues but something to consider for folks that may not know enough about the computer end of things. Number one they need to to get the driver software up and running on the pc or mac for the 2102. I myself was wondering why my com port was not registering but figured it out quickly. Second thing that happened that just about gave me a heart attack was this. After everything loaded up well I did what you said and plugged in a battery then powered up to check firmware authenticity and was greeted with a tone and the on screen message saying EMERGENCY ONLY. I said on no man don't tell me this is going to have to go back to jumper now lol !!!!!! On my radio the T16 Pro there is a safety switch on the rear and if you do not have that switch pushed in by placing the rear housing back on you get that tone and message. I thought about it instantly after having the panic moment and said there must be a safety switch ,and there was. All good now thanks to your videos as always so please keep delivering the great content. Thank you much........
Dear Joshua, many thanks for the video, I was able to flash Multi module. But now I'm not able to correctly configure my son's Carbon Cub Safe+ receiver after binding (Spektrum receiver with GPS). I think it could be due to different channel order (now AETR, Spektrum standard TAER). So I'd like to re-flash the module. How it is possible? I tried to apply your video procedure but it seems to work just for the first time. Thank you in advance
After you have flashed the latest version, you now have bootloader. So you can flash the firmware as follows.
First, download the firmware file to the FIRMWARES folder on your SD card. In the T16, long-press SYS, then page to SD card contents. Use the scroll wheel to navigate into the FIRMWARES folder. Highlight the file, long-press the scroll wheel, and choose "flash internal module".
@@JoshuaBardwell Dear Joshua thank you very much for the super-quick answer! You're very professional
Is the bug with the Spektrum receivers in the original firmware or do I need to update
The Spektrum bug is fixed in 2.3.3 and newer.
Ok, my 4in1 firmware is v1.3.0.44 and want to upgrade to v1.3.0.47. When I got to bootloader (HORUS) then flash firmware from the bin file I get "invalid format" (as I figured), there was nothing different then if I were flashing opentx vs flashing 4in1, got there the usual way trims in power on, 1.3.0.47 file in sd card. Is there something different to do somewhere?
You don't do it from the bootloader. You do it from the SD card. You navigate to the SD card and long-press the bin file and "flash to internal module" or "external module" if that's what you have.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks!
Hi Josh I don't actually have a T16 but I do have Jumper 4in1 modules in my X9D+ and X10. Other than the boot loader thing which I know that my radios have do I still choose the same firmware, channel order notwithstanding, that you did? What difference to invert and not invert make? What benefits are there to updating to the latest firmware?
th-cam.com/video/qT_wmbxTBp8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Joshua, Thanks for sharing
My issue is when i am changing models my T16 crashes any solution for the crash
I saw Open TX 2.3 is having T16 can it just work by downloading the firmware on to the radio, will it work or I still have to stick with 2.2 X10 horus
"If your module says V1.2.1.85 or later you're fine..." my T16 just arrived from TBS with V1.3.0.44 Thanks for showing us this.
so how do i get the module firmware to flash? i currently have the 2.3.5 for my reciever firmware and need to flash internal from 1.3.0.44 to 1.3.0.53.
My T16 is still in the mail, but U DA MAN ;)
Do you have the Pro version of the T16?
Hi JB, Please can you tell me what software you use to record your screen please? I'm trying to troubleshoot with a friend and I need to show him how I do things on my PC and send it in a video to him. Thank you in advance.
OBS is free and can record your screen.
@@JoshuaBardwell Excellent, thank you. I just downloaded it and when I installed it it configured my PC based on detected hardware. I can now record my screen. Thank you JB
I need a new motherboard, I broke the ribbon cable connector off on the bottom doing this update. And parts are hard to find. Back to the QX7 till I find one.
Is there a real reason besides "cuz I can!" to update the internal module if I'm on the older version but have no problems using frsky receivers and the crossfire?!
Check out the release notes of the firmware and see if there is anything there that appeals to you.
No need to update the module firmware if you plan on keeping jumpertx as the radio firmware, but if you update to open tx with original module firmware you lose the low latency dsmx rx option (x11ms). Theres also an annoying warning that flashes in the setup menu.
Hey Joshua, I Got A Dumb Question About Open TX? Can You Set One Up For Flyin A DJI 3 Pro or Such? Instead Of Using Their Controller... Thanks
No, that won't work.
Thanks for the content. I have two Jumper T16s and love them. Mine already had the boot loader thought. :) I guess I just got lucky.
So then how did you update firmware for the multi protocol?
@@sl66ggehrubt Put the update on the sd card in the firmware folder and clicked it.
ftdi adapter works as well, be sure it's set to 3.3v or else you'll fry the processor. I believe cp210 was created to get around ftdi patent/copyrights.
I have an FTDI too but I wasn't 100% sure it was 3.3v so I just bought the CP210.
Fark. If I order the cp210 adapter from Banggood it will take 3-4 weeks. If I order it from Amazon the total cost will be upwards of 20 bucks (I don't have Amazon Prime), and it will arrive in probably a week. I need that money for a new flight controller I'm saving up for. I wonder if Fry's has them in stock. That's only a 40-mile drive RT. I have an USB AVR thing for flashing ESCs (back in the day), but it isn't clear whether that would work. I don't mind performing the update procedure, but i wish it did not require this adapter that I don't have on hand. Meanwhile since I updated my T16 to OpenTx 2.3.4, it's flashing "firmware update recommended" in the model setup using the internal module. It's too cold to fly anyway, my hands stiffen up pretty fast, I guess I'll just order it from Banggood. And I still haven't ordered a case for the T16! I better cheer up - things could always be worse. Happy New Year!
Your next video should be how to replace the antenna cable on the internal module. Both of my T16's output 43-50mw stock. After replacing the cable and connector I get about 90mw (tested with imrc power meter new version). I chose to use a hot air reflow gun to remove the connector and solder my cable directly but I have seen a few people suggest you can find cables with the connector on it. I have not checked the swr yet. I get noticably less rssi warnings when flying around my tree filled property after the mod. The stock cable is junk.
Could you link to the cable you used?
Yes please give us an Link for the Antenna Cable... or did you only cut the cable and soldered it directly to the pcb board?
If you changed from UFL to direct-solder, most likely that is the reason for the increased power output. But many people will fry the board trying to direct-solder coax this small. It's possible that a low-loss coax cable would improve the output some even with UFL though. But getting one the correct length is important.
Mine has version ..85. How to update it? I thought I just copy the multi firmware to the SD-card - but it doesn´t work.??
Put the firmware file into the firmware folder on the SD card.
In the radio long press SYS key and page to the SD card contents.
Navigate to the firmware file. Highlight it. Long press the jog wheel. "flash to internal".
Joshua Bardwell Thank you, it works!
Had the same question, because I flashed the wrong version. Thanks for the solution.
Will this work on the jumper pro model ?
This isn't needed if you have an external module. With the external module you use the built-in USB plug.
Joshua Bardwell
Got it. Thanks for clarifying
What battery do you use for your Jumper?
Regular old 18650's.
Can the Arduino nano be used as an alternative?
Almost certainly, if you load up an FTDI script. Make sure to use 3.3v not 5v.
I have some spare Arduino nanos. Can you make a video showing an alternative to the cp210? PLEASE!!! Lol
I just finished trying to flash the Multi module with my Aduino Nano... no success. I guess I will be making the purchase for that CP210 module.
My module status says V1.3.0.44. Does it already have the boot loader or not? How do I tell?
@2:32 in the video :-)
Joshua Bardwell I downloaded and installed V1.3.0.47 hoping to get the graupner HoTT protocol but it doesn’t show up in multi list as an option. Any idea what I did wrong?
I imported this module - followed your video step by step 100% - It fails to upload to the radio?
I have now tried everything. Verified that I soldered it all up properly - Still nothing - Unable to open Com port.
I then checked RC Groups article. Desoldered the 3.3v - and attempted to boot with USB in, then battery, then turn on. Screen says Emergency Recovery.
Unable to open COM port is a driver or app issue not anything to do with the wiring to the module. You can open the COM port simply by plugging in the programming adapter, if you have the drivers etc set up correctly.
I managed to get it done. Took it to another PC!
Must have been drivers or something for the COM port - I tried Zadig with no success too though.
I updated my MPM today, but for some reason my right slider isn't calibrating....Since I spent like 10 mins with the thing in JumperOS, I can't be sure if it's a bad slider or an OPenTX thing. To test I tried to revert back to JumperTX from their web site. When I go to flash from the bootloader screen it freezes and wont let me flash back to Jumper. grrrr. Anyone have any experience flashing this thing back or do I need to undo the MPM firmware update first? Is that even possible?
Use Newest nightly build...
NOT RC1... opentx problem will be fixed in rc2
@@darkness1943 Thanks for the reply. got excited and thought this might actually help, I was using RC2 but anyways, I went ahead and updated to latest NB, still no right slider..When I go to system settings I can see the right slider on Analog input 11, but that isn't mapped to RS. Same goes for the 6 position switch...also not working. I wonder if there is a way to map analog 11 to right slider? Anyone know?
Nice, i have got it with an already installed bootloader because i bought mine just two weeks ago ;) xD
How do you update the internal module??? Do you just download the bin from the link in the description, put it on the SD under "FIRMWARE" and flash it in bootloader mode on the T16?
@@pepi560 Have your TX powered on>Plug in USB cable>Select "USB Storage">Place the file in "Firmware">Disconnect USB>Hold "Sys" button>Page 1 time to SD-HC Card>Scroll to "Firmware" and select>Select the file>Hold scroll wheel button> Select "Flash Internal Multi" and it will write the file.
@@Em1s1s thanks!
@@pepi560 Just to clarify>"Firmware" folder of SD card (Important to place in correct folder on TX)
@@Em1s1s Appreciated
Hey Joshua, Thanks for all the great videos. I just bought a Jumper TX16 Pro and when I bound it to my first Spektrum RX, the DSM2 internal module flashes with a message that says module upgrade recommended. It bound to the RX okay, but I'm wondering if I really need to flash the module or not. How do you determine whether or not you need to? I really only have Spektrum RX's and I just bought a couple of new Jumper RX's so I don't force needing to upgrade to new protocols. What say you?
HELP NEEDED 😫
I had the OpenTX 2.2.3 nightlies on my T16 working. Installed the RC1, and the T16 froze over. Now, getting the intro OpenTX welcome message, the system goes directly to calibration. No buttons work. And I am stuck. Have tried to go back to nightlies, back to JumperTX, latest RC2. The T16 remains frozen. Anyone?
Remove the coin cell from the inside?
deinstall Campanion rc1
and install newest nightly build.
In Settings choose Nightly Unstable
NOT stable or Release candidate❗
Download Firmware AND Say NO to RC1 Download if campanion asks
Flash to T16.
copy Newest SD Content as well.
hope it works for You👍
Yes u right but the radios are coming now with the bootloder install already
Thank You Joshua, it work for me perfectly.
Joshua, thank you for all the T16 videos. Question, I don't have the CP210 adapter so I know when I update to OpenTX it will be warning me to update my internal module firmware. Is it still safe to use the transmitter until I can obtain the CP210 adapter and flash the internal module or do you suggest I wait to update until I get the CP210 adapter? I fly drones and wings with this transmitter and use spektrum rx on my wing. I'm aware of a major bug fix for the spektrum rx so I wanted to update to OpenTX but want to make sure it's safe to do and then address the internal module firmware later on.
Isn't the channel order for protocols where you can't change it? for betaflight its no big deal, shuffle channels around with AETR1234 and rearrange those letters as needed, but for an E011 using bayang protocol...
I bet you're right.
The multi-protocol module changes the channel to match each protocol...so it has to know what it is starting with...i set mine to AETR and when i bind to my spectrum recievers (TAER) nothing needs remapped
OpenTX 2.3.3 (RC) now displays the channel order after the version number of the module firmware. Still a little bit confused about why there is a fixed channel order for the module.
@@tastenheber each protocol uses a different channel order, you select the one you like to use in the radio, and flash the module with the matching one, then when you select the protocol the module can remap from your preferred channel order to what the protocol uses and then you dont have to bother changing the programming
Hello Joshua, Can I use FT232RL FTDI Mini USB to TTL Serial?
I used mine and it worked fine.
Wierd, mine shipped with Open TX. It is version 1.3.0.44. The start sequence says "Welcome to Open TX" and the splash screen says OpenTX. Maybe it's not really Open TX. Can anybody elaborate on that?
Hi Joshua - great work - I like your delivery. Question have you done a video to upgrade external module with firmware version prior to 1.2.1.85? I'm not sure whether to power via TX or usb to serial adapter? and using Fast Multi?
I'm confused. Isn't this video the tutorial that answers those questions?
@@JoshuaBardwell I'm flashing an external module so I don't need RxSR cable? just wire direct from serial adapter to module board? sorry I'm bit new to this. I have flashed previous modules ok but this new module doesn't have a usb port.
Sorry also radio is Taranis X7S
I want to buy a t16 anyone got a link to somewhere that is shipping with bootloader already done?
I bought mine with version that ends with 85.... and I updated it without having to install bootloader
Mine has also Version ..85. How do you updated it? (Directly USB to internal Modul or copy files to SD-Card?)
@@kreisflieger files on sd card
@@MrJob91 into the firmware folder? that dosn´t work
My t16 pro is already with open tx! Bought 15 days ago!
Mine as well
Hi where did you get yours from?
Thanks
@@chrisgreen9561 aliexpress
@@Davidanz hi David lots of sellers on aliexpress, which did you use?
@@chrisgreen9561 TrustWorthy INT'L Holding Group
Thanks for all the content Mr Bardwell.
I'll stay with my X9D Taranis, but the video was great as usual and fun to watch.
As far as I can see, any USB to serial adapter like the ftdi and other chipped devices will work just fine, you don't need the exact one used in this video.
I am having the worst luck in doing this update. I have tried doint this update with the Arduino Nano, AND the Arduino Uno. And of course as a Mac user i needed to borrow my brothers HP Windows computer. I Cant seem to get past the 1/3 Erasing. EVERYTHING! Except doing this JB's way. If the Arduino can be used as a USB to Serial Adaptor i am having the worst luck EVER!!! This is the worst firmware upgrade process i have ever had to do, and i can not seem to find the same internal module available for purchase as a plug and play situation... I knew i should have waited a bit longer before making the purchase....
As a mac user I feel your pain. I had a similar issue - when I plugged in the adapter to USB, I the windows computer recognized something was plugged in, but did not create a new serial port for it. I had to download specific drivers for the adapter on my Windows machine - something you dont have to do on a Mac. Once I had the drivers installed, it immediately created a new serial port when plugged in and the process went smoothly from that point. Good luck.
Anyone tested this? I am about to use a FTDI adapter instead of cp210 as used by Joshua, hopefully nothing should break :-)
Update : I just flashed the Multi-module Boot loader with a FTDI adapter (FT232RL) that was lying at home. And all is good. Updated BL to 0.5.0 and Firmware to 1.3.1.69
Mine came with 1.3.0.44 AETR already on it :) Winner winner Christmas dinner :)
Great video thanks Joshua. This will help with my Radiomaster, as I like to flash with Ardouino. My channel order a TERA as I am also a plane flyer.
I dont own a Jumper T16 but i watched it anyway for the knowledge!
Hi Joshua, just the video I was waiting for thanks, I'm not sure whethere I was listening correctly but what is the Download Flash Multi file for ??
Flash Multi is a program that writes the firmware file to the module.
First Joshua,
you don't need connect to 3.3Volt❗
Only White and green together.
If you turn on the Radio and enable the internal modul...
Yes TMac has a very good tutorials about Jumper T16 Radios
Yes, and I did it that way at first, and it was a pain in the ass having to turn the radio over and etc. It's so much easier to just solder to 3.3v.
@@JoshuaBardwell
Sorry... about that
by me, first try... it works with no problem.
By the way, last Firmware Update ...47
(bootloader pre installed)
with Opentx Internal Flasher... works also perfect.
Jumper delivers T16 now with Pre installed Bootloader... so they said...
Never plan on owning a t 16 but I’ll still stay till the end anyways wthell
I don't have a T16, but I also watch every video start to finish.
Great how to videos thank you 🦊
Sticking with my old spektrum and shoe horn for now.
the new one is already shipping with the bootloader installed. U only need usb from now on
That little board looks almost identical to a TP4056! 😮 (I use them a lot, for charging batteries internally in my projects!)
Anyway, great job, Joshua! Really nice! 😃
Anyone tried to flash FrSky receiver with the T16 yet?
Blast, no fw file for mac :(
When I did the upload the first time Step 1 Erasing Flash Memory failed. Started again reloaded the update and boom....away she went. So hang in there if you get an error first up and Mr Bardwell, thank you.
Thanks Mr Know it all.....
i will never update my module but i will not skip this video :)
Thanks JB
To be clear, you do not need to do this to install OpenTX? This is solely for internal module updates.
Correct.
Thanks for the hours to speak!
Please, could we assign an aux to desactivate internal (&external?) module in order to lower mAmps used? In addition to the screen off function, that will be a pleasure to leave my rc switched on during a whole session with friends without carrying 10 reboot a day... Timers and caution could help me not to forget hours... 😂
If the External Module is not enabled in the model, then it is powered down. Just switch to a model that doesn't have External turned on.
Thanks. My question was regarding internal module, so i suppose i could do your trick inverted 😊 an aux will be more convenient, if that could be coupled with a "pre arm" function to avoid to reswitch it on by mistake, and forgetting in for a while...
A second idea is to be able to boot the transmitter in low power mode, in order to be "safer" on bench and on the field regarding health for "high" frequency users that fpv players could be. Often, the remote could be on few minutes before and afer the flight (so your trick is usefull for me 👍).
Nevertheless, 3 minutes trip by flight will cause to boot very frequently, and i am not sure that electronics life tests are checking it. I won't do it with a computer after each game over... 😅
What a lua scripts on the radio, i cant get it to work
What about lua scripts my bad
Well I suppose this is an upside to not having the internal module for my T16 yet, except I already forked out for the external module. Meaning in the future when I want to have my Crossfire 'permanently' plugged in I'm going to have to buy the multi module again (internal version) leaving me with a useless piece of hardware :-/
Hey, anyone want to buy an external multi module cheap? :D
yea
What's in the box!