I posted a HyperBurngeonVape team 7 months ago (using Dehya in a hyperbloom team with a hydro vape driver) but it did not get much attention at the time probably since using Yelan to vape is mainly accessible at C1+. I'm posting another HyperBurngeonVape demonstration but with Neuvillette instead of Yelan since he is more accessible since all you need is C0. Previous threads from March 2023 explaining the team composition: old.reddit.com/r/Dehyamains/comments/11jy357/1231_in_28s_c1_yelanc0_dehyac2_nahida/ old.reddit.com/r/YelanMains/comments/11jy2hy/1231_in_28s_c1_yelanc0_dehyac2_nahida/ tl;dw based on these results: HyperburngeonVape equal to Hyperbloom faster than Taser faster than Mono Hydro Disclaimers: - C0 Dehya with Lv.60 R5 Rainslasher. No EM stacked on artifacts. HP stacked. - Each team was run 5-7 times for the best possible time I could get. - C0R1 Neuvillette with 4pc Wanderer's Trouple because I still don't have his full set. This could increase his reaction damage due to the 2pc effect (+80 EM). - C6 Raiden: C3+ does not affect the performance of these teams since she is triggering hyperblooms with EM stacked - C3 Nahida: C2+ definitely affects clear times but remains a constant in all runs - C6 Mona: C3+ Somewhat affects clear times in Mono Hydro thanks to her burst being higher level ("Increases the Level of Stellaris Phantasm by 3") Thoughts: Why Dehya? • Hyperbloom is already broken and Dehya enables vapes to be added into the mix • Since Dehya's pyro application is slow, she triggers burning with Nahida while also not triggering many burgeons which allows Neuvillette to vape and Raiden to hyperbloom • Dehya's interruption resistance is useful if you have C0 Neuvillette • Vaporize, Electro-Charged and Bloom enables Neuvillette's full passive buff • The HyperburngeonVape team could have cleared about 4 seconds faster if I opted to just CA with Neuv at the end instead of trying to restart the rotation. I did this for consistency between all runs. • Dehya can be given 4pc Instructors to give the entire team even more EM if you want to her use as a buff support instead of a damage mitigation support. Why Raiden instead of Kuki? • While Kuki and Raiden's hyperbloom damage is similar, with Raiden she can trigger the hyperblooms from a distance on-hit whereas Kuki has to be near the seed. It depends what you're fighting. Raiden's hyperblooms also donot trigger against most shields. • Kuki is great if you prefer more healing Why this boss? • AFAIK, this boss is currently the highest HP boss in the game that does not move much (unlike 12-3-2), does not force you to move much (unlike 12-3-2), does not have a permanent aura on them (unlike Vivianne and Ninianne) and you can fight repeatedly (unlike new Fontaine local legends). • Geovishap was actually too squishy and died in nearly 1 rotation for each team. Why Layla in Mono Hydro? • Her C4 increases charged attack damage somewhat ("...Charged Attack DMG to increase based on 5% of Layla's Max HP...") • She can freeze most non-boss enemies • Since her shield absorbs cryo pretty well, she can tank most of this boss's attacks • Interchangeable with Schlongli Why not Thoma? • Steals too many reactions from Neuvillette and Raiden Why not Xiangling? • Steals too many reactions from Neuvillette and Raiden Why not Bennett? • Neuvillette's CA damage scales off of HP not ATK • Neuvillette is able to heal himself and technically doesn't need a healer if played well Why 4pc ToM on Schlongli? • Yeah... it's more or less useless for Neuvillette's CA. He's mostly there for the shield and shred • 4pc AP would be an alternative but I do not have it Neuvillette's vape damage: 0:08 156k 0:10 109k 0:12 91k 0:19 96k 0:31 127k
@@geneticallygamer Depends what characters you have. I prefer Hyperburngeonvape (Dehya/EM Raiden or Kuki/Nahida) and Hyperbloom w/ freeze (EM Kuki or Raiden/Nahida/C4+ Layla). As you can tell based on the clip, Neuvillette is quite versatile and you can play him in several teams depending on what you're fighting.
@@Zyzyoro yeah but this best work with mono hydro so zhongli can reliably get the hydro crystallize for the 10s elem% buff then switch to neu immediately. Glad to relay this information^^ i usually do neu, yelan (for now), kazuha, zhongli archaic buff duration lessens by switching to mona befor neuv. that's why better to use furina in the future.
Very nice! Dehya with Sumeru craftable claymore to transfer EM to Neuvillette, and Zhongli in Archaic Petra may still be possible for small improvements. 🤓 It's cool to see Dehya work well in a team for once, even if almost all she does is apply off-field Pyro. 😄
Amazing showcase continue the good work, I've been using Xiangling as a Dehya copium (wish I could lose a 5050 to her) but her burst cost make it unstable to maintain it.
Wow, exactly what I was missing! I had Neuvi C1/Nahida/Raiden but the last slot did not quire fit (Kokomi only does a bit Hydro, Baizhu's Dendro is too much anyways). I think Full EM Instructor Forest Regalia for Dehya should be an improvement. She won't mitigate as much Damage, but Dehya buffs both Raidens Hyperbloom and Neuvis Vaporize EM Dmg while providing Burgeon accidents with okay numbers.
I've had the most fun stacking EM on Dehya in this team! Neuvilette self-heals so damage mitigation shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks for the watch!
This team looks like a ton of fun, but alas, I don't have Dehya. 😢 Does anyone have any recommendations for who I could use instead of her on the Hyperburgeonvape team?
Hey, one question, why not Marechaussee Hunter in neuvillete if u just have 145 EM? isn't better with 20% HP and crit, the EM in substats or one piece with this principal stat EM, sry 4 my eng and thnks
I mentioned it in the description: "Why Layla in Mono Hydro? -- Her C4 increases charged attack damage somewhat ("...Charged Attack DMG to increase based on 5% of Layla's Max HP...") and she can freeze most non-boss enemies. Since her shield absorbs cryo pretty well, you can tank most of this boss's attacks. Interchangeable with Schlongli." You can use either except Layla allows for freezing if you prefer it. I get similar results with either against this boss.
Ye. U can use XL but strict ER requirements and would need to go closer to the enemies. Dehya also gives IR and u can also just leave the field and forgo the IR bcs it's more comfortable like that anw
@@Kyong008 Xiangling stole too many reactions when I tried her instead of Dehya. Her pyro application was too strong. It can work but I found better performance and comfort with Dehya since the pyro application is on a skill not a burst.
@@Zyzyoro ye XL steals the Cores resulting in more Burgeon than Hyperbloom, or no Hyperbloom at all. XL's still pretty good in a more BurnVape or Vape-focused set up tho since her fast Pyro app means Neuvi always Vapes
I posted a HyperBurngeonVape team 7 months ago (using Dehya in a hyperbloom team with a hydro vape driver) but it did not get much attention at the time probably since using Yelan to vape is mainly accessible at C1+. I'm posting another HyperBurngeonVape demonstration but with Neuvillette instead of Yelan since he is more accessible since all you need is C0.
Previous threads from March 2023 explaining the team composition:
old.reddit.com/r/Dehyamains/comments/11jy357/1231_in_28s_c1_yelanc0_dehyac2_nahida/
old.reddit.com/r/YelanMains/comments/11jy2hy/1231_in_28s_c1_yelanc0_dehyac2_nahida/
tl;dw based on these results: HyperburngeonVape equal to Hyperbloom faster than Taser faster than Mono Hydro
Disclaimers:
- C0 Dehya with Lv.60 R5 Rainslasher. No EM stacked on artifacts. HP stacked.
- Each team was run 5-7 times for the best possible time I could get.
- C0R1 Neuvillette with 4pc Wanderer's Trouple because I still don't have his full set. This could increase his reaction damage due to the 2pc effect (+80 EM).
- C6 Raiden: C3+ does not affect the performance of these teams since she is triggering hyperblooms with EM stacked
- C3 Nahida: C2+ definitely affects clear times but remains a constant in all runs
- C6 Mona: C3+ Somewhat affects clear times in Mono Hydro thanks to her burst being higher level ("Increases the Level of Stellaris Phantasm by 3")
Thoughts:
Why Dehya?
• Hyperbloom is already broken and Dehya enables vapes to be added into the mix
• Since Dehya's pyro application is slow, she triggers burning with Nahida while also not triggering many burgeons which allows Neuvillette to vape and Raiden to hyperbloom
• Dehya's interruption resistance is useful if you have C0 Neuvillette
• Vaporize, Electro-Charged and Bloom enables Neuvillette's full passive buff
• The HyperburngeonVape team could have cleared about 4 seconds faster if I opted to just CA with Neuv at the end instead of trying to restart the rotation. I did this for consistency between all runs.
• Dehya can be given 4pc Instructors to give the entire team even more EM if you want to her use as a buff support instead of a damage mitigation support.
Why Raiden instead of Kuki?
• While Kuki and Raiden's hyperbloom damage is similar, with Raiden she can trigger the hyperblooms from a distance on-hit whereas Kuki has to be near the seed. It depends what you're fighting. Raiden's hyperblooms also donot trigger against most shields.
• Kuki is great if you prefer more healing
Why this boss?
• AFAIK, this boss is currently the highest HP boss in the game that does not move much (unlike 12-3-2), does not force you to move much (unlike 12-3-2), does not have a permanent aura on them (unlike Vivianne and Ninianne) and you can fight repeatedly (unlike new Fontaine local legends).
• Geovishap was actually too squishy and died in nearly 1 rotation for each team.
Why Layla in Mono Hydro?
• Her C4 increases charged attack damage somewhat ("...Charged Attack DMG to increase based on 5% of Layla's Max HP...")
• She can freeze most non-boss enemies
• Since her shield absorbs cryo pretty well, she can tank most of this boss's attacks
• Interchangeable with Schlongli
Why not Thoma?
• Steals too many reactions from Neuvillette and Raiden
Why not Xiangling?
• Steals too many reactions from Neuvillette and Raiden
Why not Bennett?
• Neuvillette's CA damage scales off of HP not ATK
• Neuvillette is able to heal himself and technically doesn't need a healer if played well
Why 4pc ToM on Schlongli?
• Yeah... it's more or less useless for Neuvillette's CA. He's mostly there for the shield and shred
• 4pc AP would be an alternative but I do not have it
Neuvillette's vape damage:
0:08 156k
0:10 109k
0:12 91k
0:19 96k
0:31 127k
good runs, you can zhongli fav with archaic petra
@@bryanstrongwind7020Good idea! Now only if I can get a 4pc set first... lol
What's best team for c1?
@@geneticallygamer Depends what characters you have. I prefer Hyperburngeonvape (Dehya/EM Raiden or Kuki/Nahida) and Hyperbloom w/ freeze (EM Kuki or Raiden/Nahida/C4+ Layla).
As you can tell based on the clip, Neuvillette is quite versatile and you can play him in several teams depending on what you're fighting.
@@Zyzyoro yeah but this best work with mono hydro so zhongli can reliably get the hydro crystallize for the 10s elem% buff then switch to neu immediately. Glad to relay this information^^
i usually do neu, yelan (for now), kazuha, zhongli
archaic buff duration lessens by switching to mona befor neuv. that's why better to use furina in the future.
Nice to see Dehya winning for once
Very nice!
Dehya with Sumeru craftable claymore to transfer EM to Neuvillette, and Zhongli in Archaic Petra may still be possible for small improvements. 🤓
It's cool to see Dehya work well in a team for once, even if almost all she does is apply off-field Pyro. 😄
Thanks for the info! I was thinking of giving her 4pc Instructors as well to give the whole team more EM.
Amazing showcase continue the good work, I've been using Xiangling as a Dehya copium (wish I could lose a 5050 to her) but her burst cost make it unstable to maintain it.
I like xiangling better in this setup personally and kazuha instead of raiden . Then it just becomes burgeon vape
@@lorraineviruet8973dehyas interruption resistance is better tho
@@lorraineviruet8973can i replace kazuha with sucrose for this team comp? He's the only one I don't have and I'm saving for baizhu and furina.
Now I need dehya to make my neuvi much more stronger 😔
Just get his c1 then
dehya on instructor full em is actually insane lol
I've been doing this. It really is! I'm beginning to think Hyperburngeonvape is a bit better than Hyperbloom.
I've seen people denying the hyperburnvape team just because dehya is there 🙄
Not surprised. I ran each team in this video 5-7 times. The results are just what they are...
Wow, exactly what I was missing! I had Neuvi C1/Nahida/Raiden but the last slot did not quire fit (Kokomi only does a bit Hydro, Baizhu's Dendro is too much anyways). I think Full EM Instructor Forest Regalia for Dehya should be an improvement. She won't mitigate as much Damage, but Dehya buffs both Raidens Hyperbloom and Neuvis Vaporize EM Dmg while providing Burgeon accidents with okay numbers.
I've had the most fun stacking EM on Dehya in this team! Neuvilette self-heals so damage mitigation shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks for the watch!
good comparison video, +1 sub
I have dehya on sac greatsword. It's a good mechanic for skill impact neuvillete team
Zhongli is a dps loss, switch him for a damage oriented support character and the taser/hyperbloom variation should outperform
try Neu, Nahida, Dehya, Beidou maybe? since beidou's burst works well with Neu's charger
I tried this with Beidou but her burst does not trigger hyperbloom seeds.
This team looks like a ton of fun, but alas, I don't have Dehya. 😢
Does anyone have any recommendations for who I could use instead of her on the Hyperburgeonvape team?
Mono Hydro all the way since Raiden and Nahida must be in other teams.
Hey, one question, why not Marechaussee Hunter in neuvillete if u just have 145 EM? isn't better with 20% HP and crit, the EM in substats or one piece with this principal stat EM, sry 4 my eng and thnks
As mentioned in the description, I didn't have Marechaussee Hunter at the time this video was made otherwise I would have used it.
@@Zyzyoro oh, thanks
Why didn't use zl on mono hydro?
I mentioned it in the description: "Why Layla in Mono Hydro? -- Her C4 increases charged attack damage somewhat ("...Charged Attack DMG to increase based on 5% of Layla's Max HP...") and she can freeze most non-boss enemies. Since her shield absorbs cryo pretty well, you can tank most of this boss's attacks. Interchangeable with Schlongli."
You can use either except Layla allows for freezing if you prefer it. I get similar results with either against this boss.
does anyone have any reccomendations on who i could use instead of nahida on the first team?
Baizhu, Yaoyao, Dendro Traveler, Collei albeit won't be as strong as Nahida.
DT is the next best choie but you have to make sure u hit their burst w/ either Electro or Hydro first before using Dehya Skill
What if I don't have deyah do I have to build xinaling mastery?
Xiangling would steal most of the vapes from Neuv. Dehya enables Neuv to vape because her pyro application is just slow enough.
Can u replace nahida with someone else ?
Traveler
can thoma replace dehya
no
so this team is Hype Random BS go incranate?..and Dehya is the best char for this?..
Ye. U can use XL but strict ER requirements and would need to go closer to the enemies. Dehya also gives IR and u can also just leave the field and forgo the IR bcs it's more comfortable like that anw
@@Kyong008 Xiangling stole too many reactions when I tried her instead of Dehya. Her pyro application was too strong. It can work but I found better performance and comfort with Dehya since the pyro application is on a skill not a burst.
@@Zyzyoro
suggestion gear and stat for her ?..i wanna try it,got Dehya since her 1st release and sitting duck ever since...
@@Zyzyoro ye XL steals the Cores resulting in more Burgeon than Hyperbloom, or no Hyperbloom at all. XL's still pretty good in a more BurnVape or Vape-focused set up tho since her fast Pyro app means Neuvi always Vapes
@@Pardo_Giftshop Level her skill. 4pc Instructors for teamwide EM buff or stack HP. EM sword if you have it.
Bro has c6 raiden😂
Yes I do
Anything with Furina eventually right?? 75% MORE damage at all times? Well at the second beam ahahha sign me the fuck up dude.
Definitely will be trying all sorts of teams out with her when she releases.
@@Zyzyorowhat do you think about the first team but raiden -> furina? I mean: neu c1 + nahida + dehya + furina
@@billvsbill Won't know for certain until Furina is released. Will be definitely trying it out though!