Who's Been Worse So Far This Season?
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When you get the situation in Qatar where McLaren, in one weekend, score the same number of points Lance Stroll has scored ALL SEASON...that's alarming.
Hello man love your vids
True point i mean stroll is as long on the grid as norris and he gets beaten by a rookies
@@magnuszinner8291He’s been around even longer than Norris
@@SamuelSantos_ ok oof
when you get in a situation where a single driver could win the constructors with 3-4 races to spare..
Stroll absolutely. Aston could have doubled their points if they didn’t have stroll
Almost same goes for Sargeant
Same with Red Bull 😅😂
@NapsterRulez you're kinda right. But in RB's case it doesn't matter, only Checo loses P2 in driver's standings
Bullcrap. For what should be expected, Perez has been far worse. People just love to hate Stroll. Perez was loved just 10 races ago. He was untouchable really. In that context, I think Perez is worse.
@@beautifulvoidaudio lol stroll is trash, he has been outscored by alonso by a ratio of nearly 4:1 while checo isnt even 2:1... AMR could easily have gotten 2nd in the constructors if they didnt have a litteral trash can in 1 of its cars
Tommo's analysis showed that if a 2nd Fernando was in the other car following the original Fernando 1 place behind, Aston would be 2nd in the constructors championship by a comfortable margin (as of the Japanese GP haven't accounted for Qatar and the rest).
Lance has been on the team ever since its birth (he's pretty much the reason AM exists).
And yet he still drives the car like he's still adapting while Fernando and Vettel did way better jumping on a car completely different to the one they used to drive.
With Checo you can at least argue that the car maybe is better to Max's driving style.
For me Lance hit his peak a while ago and just now he's realizing its not gonna get any better.
Last time I checked Sergio Pérez was is in P2 in the WDC. I'd say this is about as much as anyone would expect from a "wingman". What am I missing here? P1.5 maybe? 🤣
Just to be clear, Valtteri Bottas finished his first three "wingman" seasons in P3, P5, P2... when that Mercedes was still a "rocket ship".
is it ironic that they were both teammates at one point?
Come on mate. I understand perez has subpar season regarding his expectations and a car he is having, but the guy will probably finish 2nd in standings. That can not be considered as a super bad season no matter the car and who you are. Stroll is just above his level in f1, simple as that.
Perez doesn't have what it takes anymore time too replace him
Window licker is way worse. If Checo has shown his brilliance, every achivement Stroll got in F1 is due to pure luck
I guess the biggest challenge they both face, is that they want to be the best at something. With the teammates they have, even with the significant talent these 2 undoubtedly both have (Stroll has high peaks...), being the best driver in their team isn't on their cards.
That leaves them the option of being the best, at being the worst driver in F1. Of course, they've got a lot of work to get close to that one - Logan Sargeant just took Ocon's lead in most DNFs this year, so he's going for a clean sweep of crapness along with no points and essentially no impressive performances at all.
Stroll has just been issued a written warning for his conduct by the FIA. He says he regrets his actions.
The difference is checo is a grown man and stroll is a spoiled child
Strol would never made 1 F1 start without rich daddy...
Well, both of them were expected to get destroyed by their teammates.
Checo: has been crushed by Verstappen for two seasons before this season started, sample size over 40 races. Anybody could have seen it coming, but there were some who actually pushed the narrative that he could challenge Verstappen over a season.
Stroll: gets crushed by alonso on a similar level. Tbh, it was not expected that he get destroyed by THAT margin. He did kinda well against vettel, and alonso is new to the team, after all.
So imo, Stroll has a worse season.
That speaks about Vettel though...
@@ChuyR. yeah, I think its pretty clear that alonso is doing much better than vettel. Still, ocon did reasonably well against alonso. Being more or less whitewashed by a 42 year old Newcomer to the team is really something else.
Checo gets whitewashed by the ultimate error less machine which is verstappen. Of course, he still should do much better than he is doing in the Red Bull rocketship, but he IS 2nd in the standings after all
not a Checolover, even though i am Mexican (i am a mercedes fan mainly) but i do find it very odd for Checo to drop off so bad, the RB19 has been defnitely tweaked to Max's style, add that to the humilliation in Miami and thats why Checo is doing so bad, also, RB wants to put Daniel in that seat, i follow Redbull in other sports and Daniel's personality is the quintessential Redbull athlete personality, having him available and not using him is a waste of money@@MCFoultier
Stroll's season has been worse, but it's not unlogical. Second drivers tend to get stranded by champions and Stroll has been in F1 for too long.
perez, hes got debatably the most dominant car in all of modern F1 history and hes one of the most experienced driver on the grid.
The Mercs of 2014 & 16 were actually MILES ahead of this year's RB. Only a couple of races have been somewhat comparable (especially at the beginning of the season).
If Max broke his leg mid season Merc and Ferrari would be far ahead of Red Bull and fighting for the Championship
Here is a video idea
Perez isn't performing just this season but in all 3 years in redbull
1st year it's understandable because new team .... but he was so far from max especially in qualy as usual and won once when max retired and bottas in his worst season beat him
2022 again I think tommo did a video and checo had the 2nd biggest gap in qualy against teammate 0.4 i think and Helmut said he went on holiday before it's time after underperforming before the summer break and then lost to Charles in the race for 2nd
2023 i don't need to speak
And yes stroll is of course worse than checo
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Remove Max and Checo will be having a WDC season right now
They both need to get ready to learn Chinese at this point.
Lance is worse by a mile
I had a LOT to say about this video. But I'll just zip it. Because literally everyone has an "informed opinion" and everyone wants to talk. I'll just say, I respect your opinion. 👍✌️
Mate sargeant is worse then devries
Stroll gave up mentally.
Checo lost his confidence totally.
I think that's the difference!
The fact that the RB19 is so much quicker than the rest of the field, Checo is faring much worse. Without the first 4 races, I think his gap to Max will be similar to Stroll's gap to Alonso. So I believe Checo has fared worse than Stroll.
It is every F1 driver's dream to drive the fastest car in the paddock. Checo has such a car in 2023 & arguably in 2022 too! It's a sad end for Checo but he does deserve to lose his seat at RBR.
I love that you leave those first 4 races out where he won 2 in a car capable of winning, Stroll has no podiums in a car capable of getting podiums.
@@saiyerugara9038 I left them out because Checo's downward spiral started after Miami
@JCzzzzz Those races are still part of his season though. The way I see it is, the Red Bull was capable of winning races and Perez won 2. Aston Martin was capable of getting podiums and Stroll got 0.
@saiyerugara9038 it's just a comparison to see how much Checo underperformed once his confidence went down the drain.
My point of view is Checo has a generational dominant car. So if he is even 0.5sec slower than Max, he would have P2 sewn up by now. I don't expect as much from Lance.
@JCzzzzz I don't expect much if anything really from Stroll but like even this is lower than I would have expected. Piastri got good yesterday and is beating Stroll by a decent margin. The Alpines are literally 1 and 3 points off him respectively. I'm not arguing Perez has been good this season but at least he's not been a hindrance to his team, they've still won with 6 races to go not like 2.
I like Checo but good lord is he dropping the ball. Lance has had the worse season though. Checo might be the dumpster but Lance is actual trash.
I see two differences between Checo and Lance. The first is performance. Obviously they’re both struggling but there’s one major difference. When Checo struggled in quali, he would turn up to the race and claw his way back to decent showings, even turning Q2 exits into podiums. Granted the RB was ahead of the field in terms of pace, but it still takes some piloting to move through the field like that. Many are talking about his struggles like he’s a detriment to the team, while he’s sitting, uncomfortably but there nonetheless, in second in the drivers championship. Meanwhile Lance is 10th to Alonso’s fourth. While Alonso was scoring podiums Lance was picking up few points. He got a couple 4ths and a 6th but in what was clearly the second fastest car, he wasn’t usually the fourth fastest driver. Then when Aston Martin fell off on pace, and relied on the skill of the driver he completely lost touch with Alonso. You could argue that Checo lost pace with Max, but the whole field did, he won 10 straight.
The second is attitude. Checo has taken his lumps, in the most stressful team to be underperforming on, and kept his head down, himself honest, and pushed through. Lance, who has the least stressful environment since his father owns the team, has acted like a petulant child. Both Checo and Lance are underperforming, but Checo is in a much more intense environment and maintains his composure much more than Lance
Checo has said (and some pundits agree) that the car has developed away from his driving style. He agrees that he needs to adapt to the car's development and he's trying. Given that when the same happened to Daniel, he wasn't able to adapt in McLaren, in contrast, Checo manages to crawl towards the points despite exiting Q2 or Q3, sometimes even ending in the podium.
@@kikay134 But here's your bias again. Stroll is having a similar issue with adapting to the car. He's missed practice, and Alonso has been probably directing the development more. I think Stroll is a good driver that can adapt, but due to his down time it's been tricky. He was on pace with Alonso in the Qatar race. Finished 9th on track after starting 17th (or 18th?). Checo was nowhere in comparison to Max.
I agree with the pressure and how Checo had good races and drives.
But there were many bad GPs for Checo that if the RB car wasn't leaguea ahead he probably wouldn't even be third
It's not really that simple. When we talk about Perez's current situation, once you lose confidence in the car, upto a level that you are scared to turn the car into the corner and literally have to lift up so that you don't spin and crash, the fastest car is as good as a midfielder, Japanese GP is perfect example. And the reason why this problem is so exaggerated in this case, is that RB have a very unique situation with their driver pairing. How both Max and Perez extract laptime from the track is completely opposite. Most drivers like the car perfectly balanced and then they can induce oversteer or understeer on corners as per their strength, that's what they're talking about when you hear them say 'we're struggling with balance'. Then there are some drivers who are more comfortable with oversteer, throw the car into corners and control it with footwork(Max, Daniel, Leclerc, Kimi, Schumacher etc). Even less drivers can maximize slight understeer because it requires a relatively stable car on corner exit traction zones to be utilized by precise throttle control(Button, Perez, Vettel, Prost etc), something which has been extensively documented as Perez being class of the field at. That's where his exceptional tyre management capability comes from as well, which he has kinda lost currently in pointy RB car.
Newey has always been known to create perfectly balanced cars, which then teams can develop and setup as per the strengths of their drivers. It was quite apparent when season started and both drivers could extract the maximum out of the car(last year as well). We saw Perez was faster than Max in Baku race, and Jos was not happy that his son is not being favored. And the car started slipping away from Perez after that, he was clueless in Miami as well as to how even on fresh tyres he was a second slower than Max on old tyres. Understand that RB have invested more than a billion dollars on Max over a decade, why wouldn't they make him more comfortable with the car, as compared to a driver who is not even from RB family. It doesn't mean they would sabotage Checo on purpose, but it is the way it is.
@@beautifulvoidaudioyeah, the holy Stroll-son did not have any influence in the 2023 car. the allmighty Alonso choosed the developement road in 2022, while driving for Alpine.
Biggest difference is character, Sergio will fight through a tough race if he qualifies badly. Lance only seems to be motivated if he's got a car far better than his direct competition.
I cant take AM seriously .... if they were serious about climbing the ranks in the championship. Stroll would have been gone awhile back now...
Don't forget that Alonso let stroll stay ahead in spain. There was no chance that stroll could have stayed ahead if alonso tried to the slightest extent.
Stroll easily
Yeah at least perez isnt shoving marko or throwing tantrums
It's hilarious how Stroll got a reprimand from the FIA for pushing a member of his own team while Max got comminity service for pushing Ocon and Lewis gets fined for having earings and jewelry.
Don't get why he was let off so easily.
Stroll got a reprimand because it was a team member, and if it wasnt televised no one would know (or care) Max did FIA stuff to show the youngins sportsmanship, after a gentle push between 2 sissys.
Lewis gets in trouble with jewelry because the likelihood of a serious crash with trauma teams is a reality, and going into an emergency MRI/cat scan etc with metal in your body could be extremely serious. Never mind the complications if there was a fire like Groseans etc and having metal in your face (or Weiner as the rumour is lol) could be equally serious...
It still hurts me that we were robbed of the chance to have Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel as teammates at Aston Martin because the window licker still has a seat thanks to Papa Cash.
I mean stroll is bad but that’s not his fault vettel just chose to retire and alonso took his place there was no way alonso and seb were teammates
perez is an intriguing case. he went from beating max on pace in baku to being completely out of his depth in the next few races. max himself said that he spent most of the baku race trying to optimize the setup of the car and found something that really clicked towards the end. but that doesn’t explain how perez can’t simply just drive to a simple P2 finish.
a change this dramatic suggests that the car has developed in an even more extreme manner towards a pointy front end which perez can’t handle - and the ‘balance’ that marko said they found only existed at the beginning of the season. it’s also telling that check’s last decent weekend, monza, was at a track where braking and mid corner rotation was less important
braking stability and low speed grip is highly important at Monza apart from raw straight line speed
@@corpsecoder_nw6746 Checo seems to assume he has the same pace as Max but then he struggles a lot and the pressure has finally beat him. I remember Australia, Silverstone, etc., etc., he is willing to risk a DNF to gain one position against slower cars bc he thinks he only deserve 1st or 2nd place. Sadly in the pursue of that he ends out in Q1, out of the points and crashing frequently...
I'm so confused with Stroll because he's 'on a similar level' to Fernando 😂 Someone needs to play bad cop at Aston!
Fernando said he's a future world champion and Fernando never lies 👀
@@Aldas001 Big Stroll must be one scary dude! 😳😅
Nepotism. No one can say bad things about the boss' son or they are in trouble. It's sad.
We know they are thinking the same as us, but can't say it cause they fear for their jobs.
Lance Stroll similar to Alonso?
You gotta be kidding me!
Mike Krack said it haha@@JCzzzzz
Hmm, lets see if we would switch them.
Do I think Perez would be closer to Fernando in the Aston? Yes
Do I think Stroll would be closer to Max in the RB, than Checo currently is? Absolutely Not.
I mean sure, both are underperforming, but I have a lot more sympathy for Checo. Just imagine Lance in that 2nd RB.... The lad can't even handle getting out in Q1...
Ive said it like 30 times already across different channels.
But Valkyrie lmh is where lance is gonna end up, and if the car ia ok... He will be just fine there.
Lawrence wont drop the f1 project and he wont fight the shareholders any longer after the lmh project fully starts.
His son keeps racing, his share holders get a better driver (yuki, probs) and aston can actually compte again.
Lance's behavior kinda points to that too, lil tamper tantrum because he knows he no longer has a grasp on the team like he used to.
-Checo, who’s in a hypersonic rocketship, has been destroyed by Max since Miami, failed to make Q3 numerous times and is only 30 points ahead of Lewis who’s in the 4th best car at the current moment.
-Stroll: Strong start, then everything came crashing down after his P6 in Spain. Doesn’t help the fact that Alonso is has a never-ending prime form.
I know the pair won’t find anything quickly in 5 races, but right now, both of their confidence levels are pretty much dead. They need a total reset and/or a massive drive to give them a massive confidence boost.
Checo is allowed to be destroyed by Max, most drivers would be, but only scoring 8 podiums in 17 races and only half of the points of his teammate is just not good enough
Second best car...
I don’t understand how Checo has gone down so bad after the initial races. This might be wild and insane conspiracy theory, but, when it was understood that Checo can challenge Max, his performance suddenly drops down. Either he lost it mentally or there is something limiting in the car.
@@alternativethoughts13 none of his wins came from him "challenging" max
Checo's had his struggles, but we seem to overlook the fact that the car has been developed away from him and towards Max. These changes weren't subtle, changing the fundamental handling characteristics of the car. If you look at his performance prior to the Spanish GP, he did damn good. But RB changed the car for the Spanish GP and you could see Max just rocket away after that. Checo likes a car with a stable rear end and Max wants a car prone to oversteer.
Stroll has beaten a teammate once over his 6 completed seasons in F1 so far when he beat rookie pay driver sergey sirotkin in 2018 (6 points to 1 point). His other teammates - near retirement massa and vettel, and sergio perez.
Enough evidence of how he's only a mid driver.
Sergio has podiums and wins. Something Lance failed to attain with the 2nd fastest car for the best part of a ⅓ of the season. Lance has had a few okay performances and that was mostly in contention for P5-6 or when the car was just straight up slow.
Sergio is just a lot of inconsistencies and lack of performance with the development schedule, I feel like he's just not coping.
Lance just hasn't really been able to cope at all for the most part of the season. I think Lawrence is smelling the coffee and has had a word with his son and thats whats triggering Lance, he's tasted an extra dose of pressure that he's probably not had to face in a long time and he's reacting badly to it, its more new to him than other drivers.
Sergio isn't really costing the team because of the Max factor advantage, the pace and operational advantage Red Bull has.
Aston doesn't have all those pieces and so Lance is really costing them.
When AM was at their best Stroll himself wasn't. His wrist obviously hurting him.
Either way, both suck ass and need to be fired.
Sergio has 2 wins and 8 podiums, but his teammate has 14 wins and 16 podiums
@@StevenQ74 and both ceco his wins where the not win podiums for verstappen. also consider baku where verstappen had major damage from russel
@@hijlkecornelisboorsma1058Russell collision happened in Baku Sprint race. Max lost Grand Prix because of the wrong timing in pit stop
As a Canadian myself it hurts to see him underperforn like that. Alonso has the tendency to hasten retirement on his teammates. Only Button and Hamilton have managed to be there with him. I think he has to realize that he's hurting the team and needs to step down, let his father off the hook of firing him.
Tbf Ocon was there with him
@@EF.707 Only in points because Alonso had like 5 or 6 DNFs. In qually and race he was clearly faster. I have a channel where I post the stats occasionally.
@@EF.707*rocket powered mohawk voice* OCON WAS NOWHERE F*CKING CLOSE TO FERNANDO. If you discount all the ACTUAL CARNAGE Ocon caused against him, AND discount Fernando's car self destructing every other race, AND eliminate the ABSOLUTE gift of the win that Fernando caused by holding up Lewis, Ocon didnt do anything but survive against Alonso.
Sure the points say otherwise but that's like saying George completely waxed Lewis in 2022, or Perez is technically the 2nd best driver this year.
@@jdf1stats in quali in 2022 it was 12-10 fernando, which is close
@robh9577 As if Ocon didn't also have issues. The 2 of them were certainly close over the 2 years. In my opinion though, I thought 21 was a closer fight performance wise than 22.
With this years Aston Martin, its clearly Stroll. Perez is bad, but at least he won some races. When Fernando was getting podium after podium, Lance highest finish was 4th in Australia where half of the grid retired
Even then, he got handed that 4th place due to the red flag rules. He would’ve finished outside the points due to his mistake on the restart.
And that was in an Australian GP where like half the grid retired.
@@NR_88exactly. I forgot about that, thanks mate
Also he got lucky that sainz got a penalty
Checo isn't causing his team to lose money like Stroll is. Red Bull has both championships locked already, Stroll is costume his team tons of money by not scoring even close to what Alonso is. That being said I still think Checo shouldn't be at Red Bull.
This feels like a stroll hit piece. Lots of misinformation.
Perez has the best car of all time and is somehow at risk of losing P2. That's piss fucking poor.
The AM has been good for half a season then shit for half a season. Comparing either to their teammate is silly as they're miles clear.
To be fair to Perez, he was having a good season before Monaco. That has got to be part of the reason he has held onto second in the championship up to now and why he does deserve more credit than he was given for Red Bull wrapping up the constructors so soon
man, c’mon, monaco was almost half a year ago
@@_.howie._ Yeah, the F1 season is quite long these days
For a good time Perez kept saying he was going for the championship, he was gonna win from Max.
Making all these statemens, his dad aswell.
I honestly think if he went in with the mindset of always aiming for 2nd place, surely he would have benefit from that in the long run maybe even at some circuits challenge Verstappen a bit.
He put the pressure on himself in beginning of the season and real quick realised he wasnt going to deliver on that.
Stroll and Albon should swap. Let Lawrence by his seat at his level.
We never saw how good that 2020 Racing Point really was because of Stroll and Checo
Stroll showed how good that car was as he was 4th behind Lewis, Valtteri and Max until he crashed while going for a podium in Muggello. That was the last time he was actually driving well.
The mere fact that Lance Stroll is the only driver in the top six(!) teams in the WCC right now that has yet to stand on the podium this season speaks volumes about how underwhelming he is. He is not only miles off of Fernando, but also of other drivers he should be performing around, given his experience and the car he is driving, like Sainz, Russell, Norris and Leclerc.
But of course, Mike Krack would never criticize Stroll. I mean, he knows who signs his paychecks.
Between Lance and Sergio, there's no contest. Lance has been SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
Well apparently todays thing is to keep kicking the drivers when theyre down. It looks like media, fans and content creators want blood. Sad.
Its stroll by far, i did the math. Perez has been outscored by 93%, while stroll has been outscored by a crazy 298%. Its not close
"When your teammate has scored 7 podiums and youve only been in the points 8 times" .. lmfaoooo
Although both are having bad seasons, Stroll is defiantly been worse. He massively holding back Aston this season with his performances compared to Alonso which could result in them finishing 5th in the constructors at best, plus hasn't had a standout race and when the car was at its best he wasn't scoring those big results like Alonso also his demeanour and attitude lately shows signs he's not interested in F1 anymore if Aston want to be up there fighting then they need another driver to score points regularly.
I have a feeling that if Aston gave Stroll the boot and got Checo, maybe he, being under less pressure, might return to his old form and maybe have a bit of a teammate fight with Fernando
Checo would definitely be more comfortable with a fernando friendly car setup with natural understeer. BUT….. he would not have a fight with him as he would not be able to match alonso in any aspect apart from probably tyre life and because of them both having the same preference in the setup alonso would more than likely be able to pull enough of a gap between to allow for an extra pit stop if he needed it…..for me Perez would be a good fit for alpine as their drivers both have the speed to do far better but they are both harsh and inconsistent race to race and they are not allowing development to have solid datasets due to the ups and downs of each driver and the drivers opinions being tainted by their own race issues etc.
Nothing else matters, only Lance Stroll out of F1.
@@gameofender4463 Yes, when it should be Lance.
so lets pair perez and stroll in AM , and get alonso the RB. Champ would be quite interesting
Yeah. Checo-Lance had put "pink W10" into 4th position, beaten by Slower McLaren in 2020
@@syauqimuhammadnurfikriisla1119 The pink merc actually finished ahead in the constructors but they were deducted points for copying the w10 (basically)
@@SS17777 yeah but They should've challenged Red bull instead of battling with those midfielder teams, especially Albon wasn't performing well that season
Mike Crack 💀 man mustve hated his school days
I really got no problem with Mike Krack's supportive/protective comments for stroll. Dude just wants to keep his job, that's it.
Checo has been doing worse! He has the fastest car on the grid and he crashes it, doesn’t make q3, crashes out other drivers🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
At least he has wins, Stroll has no points since the summer break despite his teammate having a 2nd.
I agree it has been a hard season for Perez and he has made some mistakes, however, I don’t think Checo has been the worst.
The balance of the entire season is still positive for Checo, for the people thinking he has been the worst, what about the rest of the drivers currently in a lower position in the drivers championship ?, yes, he is in the best car but it’s simply not suited for him and he needs to fight against many factors out of his hands. At the same time, I recognize his bad moment and Checo himself is the first wanting to stop it and get great results again 🙏🏼
I’d say Checo is disappointing due to the bad performances in some races during the second part of the season, that’s undeniable but I’m sure he will improve in the last 5 races 💪🏻
Supporting Checo at any circumstances, he will be starting next season but RB will not allow bad results anymore and Checo is the fist person knowing that, I’m almost sure he’ll not continue in 2025 but I’m sure he’ll start 2024, not sure if he’ll end the season, it depends only on him 🙏🏼
Stroll actually had a good race in qatar but okay
His dad should fire Alonso and hire Maza"spin" so his son will look great! 😄😂🤣
Logan Sargeant is categorically the worst in f1
With the difference that logan is a rookie. Stroll has been in f1 for far too long
The only thing that makes me think perez is having a worse season is that he is capable of much more.
He was pretty fast not long ago.
Lance on the other hand didn't surprise me at all
Why is that a question lol? One is second in the championship and the other has 3x less points then his teammate.
Checo has less than 1/2 points compared to his teammate so that's also bad but of course stroll is the worse driver in the grid apart from sargeant
checo is car carried
@@xq_ulteven Checo himself struggles with the RB19. That's why adaptability is important in F1. Look at how much Max gets out of that car and how much Checo does. It's easier said than done and RB19 is a very tricky car. When you're on the limit, you're fine. When you overdrive it, you're f***ed up
Lawrence Stroll needs to make up his mind and decide if he wants to achieve something or not. He needs to do it quickly, as there's no guarantee how long Fernando will stay at his current level of performance.
How can it not be Stroll? Tough, cause I like the guy. However, he has had almost zero highlights this year, which has been memorable for all the wrong reasons. Aston is entering WEC for 2025, I can see Lawrence giving his son one last chance to prove himself in 2024. If he further derails Aston's 5-year plan, the timing is perfect for Lance to be replaced in the F1 team and race in the WEC team, cause he's not a bad racing driver by any stretch. Lawrence can have his cake and eat it too, racing opportunities for his son and a thriving F1 investment.
Perez 100% hes in a title winning car and can barely put it in the top 5 let alone P2. Aston Martins car has dropped off the pace but Alonso has always been amazing at extracting 110% from whatever car hes in.
Hmmmmmmmm... he's on this form and yet his team still won with 6 races left. Stroll might be overtaken by Gasly and Ocon who drive off track every race almost lol!
Throw him in jail! Right now!
4:02 - dude, your bias is so glaring here. He was trying to man handle the car to gain time. It was obvious. Had Leclerc done that - and he is known for crashing in that way - it would have been praised as something he just does. LMAO. Stroll has been missing practice and was ill which made him have some down time in the car. He probably suffered a little from that. And being that the field is so tight, it was showing. We've gotta remember that this stuff happened before, and then he'd have some miraculous performances, like his 2020 pole. There is something a bit different going on lately, but I wouldn't count him out still. In context, and given the machinery, Checo is an absolute joke in comparison. Stroll's lap times were actually close to Alonso's in the race pace. Perez is not even close to Max.
Stroll's fastest lap was only 3 tenths down from Alonso - and that's despite Alonso having a later last pit stop.
Checo was a full 1.9 seconds down from Max. Oh, did he get damage? Idk, but there's no excuse either way. Checo is far worse in comparison.
Stroll might be locked in but come on their Money is not enough for more Prize Money. Happened to the other 2 Laifi 2022 Season wasn’t the best Given he decided the Championship in 2021. Although he already can make his Brand in the Business World. GoatIfi Racing Line in stores now!
If you could consider the placement in the team, the dynamic of the team, the expected cooperative ability in the car built around you, the dynamic of the years development war, the technical aspects of the developments and your teammates overarching achievements... then the worst driver of 2023 is currently Leclerc... that's going by the understanding of the philosophy of what is F1 as a technical sport, and not a parasocisl gossip collumn with Wikipedia, Facebook and Channel 4 highlights as reference. If you're using the most popular buzzword of 'pressure' in your argument, then you're simply not understanding the sport.
Checo and Strolls issues are underlining factors in the failed system that is currently RedBulls second seat program and Aston Martins reliance on one driver's achievements to better the other. Both are having bad seasons, but this comes down to the team, and not their ability. So neither should be judged independently, but openly mentioned with their teams in mind.
You can always laugh about those drivers and meme them but you got to understand their point of view. Their teammates delivering in a car that you just can't make work, with every race the pressure goes up. Especially Perez don't deserve that. If you got that pressure you try too hard and force it and that cause more unlucky situations. With Lance Stroll it's different. Everybody knows that he's only here because of his father. But in the end they're also humans and in every job it's frustrating to see someone else accel with the same opportunities given. Perez is a damn good driver the car just didn't work for him. With Lance, you have to think about sack him. You still can get him to the Aston Martin touring cars
Papa Stroll clearly doesn't care about winning. If he did, well... we all know the move he would make.
If the 2nd seat at Aston Martin was ANYONE other than Lance "The Ingrate" Strulovitch Jr., there wouldn't even be a discussion; he'd be replaced with a swimmy-headed quickness.
Wow, I'm only 14 seconds in and am compelled to say that if you're driving the RB19 (arguably THE most dominant F1 car relative to the rest of the field), yet you're being compared to Baby Stroll on pace, things are just a tad. . . suboptimal.
What a bad, bad, BAD look, Checo.
2:12 -- _"...and was seen physically pushing his trainer for an unknown reason."_
Come, now. We ALL know the reason. It rhymes with shmetulant shmild, and in pig Latin, immature-ey at-brey.
Go, Lance, go! Go, Lance go! Please, Lance, go.... the fnck away!
I don't agree that Checho's underperformance is due to mental problems. In 1994, Briatore suggested the same about JJ that Horner did about Perez, and it's the worst thing you can do to a driver's confidence. B194 like RB19 now was a fast, but a difficult car to master. Top drivers like Schumacher and Verstappen adapt to the narrow window of the car but the others don't.
In 1994, the aero rules changed mid-season and this year the tires. The rule changes that reduced the down force made the B194 even more unstable to drive. JJ said that the team didn't listen to how he wanted the car to be set up. The Enstone team was (and is) a toxic environment for drivers, just like Red Bull
"30% of points scored"... disliked the video there. This is irrelevant. Hulkenberg scored like... 300% more points than Magnussen? This is an irrelevant stat because it is influenced by total car performance as the points are unequally distributed
An Aston Martin employee physically shoved another Aston Martin employee and wasn’t properly reprimanded, that’s not good enough. It’s all well and good when you’re just Racing Point, but Aston Martin is a company
Ever since he started in F1 , I have massively supported Lance through the years.
Those few flashes of brilliance (podium in Azerbaijan, starting on the front row at Monza on 2017) have shown to me that he has talent which he’s not always able to reproduce.
Now though, I have to say, there is little to be said in defence of him.
He’s still a cracking driver in my view- but there are better drivers waiting in the sidelines.
Stroll is the worse-->Look at the points percentage per season versus their team-mates. Alonso has like close to 80% of the teams percentage points. Max has less than 60% of the teams percentage points.
Btw, no infractions against Stroll from the FIA regarding Qatar2023.
man its hard being a damn F1 driver... you cant even come out and say "fuck the whole damn world!! (any my dad's stupid team)" after a shitty few weeks
Fun fact….Ricciardo only contributed 23% of McLaren’s points in 2022….and people think he should get the Red Bull seat 🤣🤣🤣
i think Checo's problem is the car we all know he's a very capable and experienced driver. Don't get me wrong the RB19 is amazing but is the polar opposite of
Stroll is a child, if I had a bad day at work and got upset, I'd get fired if I got physical with another member of staff like that.
He crossed a line that shouldn't have been crossed, I don't care if he's a driver or a crew member at McDonald's, you don't physically abuse your team mates.
But I don't understand how anyone could say that Checo has performed worse than Stroll. I think Russel is performing worse that Checo...
50% of Mike Krack's workload consists of producing more or less valid excuses for Lance Strolls many FAILs this season
Alonso has or had more Q3s than Checo and Stroll combined until two races ago and had been the only driver to make every Q3 until that awful Austin upgrade. This video puts Checo in a deservedly good light character wise.
The fact that lawson has scored more points being a reserve rookie
Perez puts too much pressure on himself by saying he wants the title and then his head dropping when Verstappen stomps that dream. He should just focus on podiums and being just behind Verstappen, or he won’t be there in 2025
I just want to say that what Horner said about Checo's performance is not necessarily different. Checo's frustration with the development of the car is to blame for causing that mental blockage that Horner talks about.
Playing devil's advocate but suppose the AM is just that bad and only Alonso's experience and skill is what is earning him points every race?
Stroll is definitely worse. Has barely made a contribution, its Alonso carrying Aston Martin. They'd be way higher in the constructors if they had two decent drivers.
Perez isn't doing great by any means either, but at least he's won two races and is somehow second in the wdc.
I’ve said it since last year. Perez has been the worst driver on the grid for a while. To perform so poorly in such a fast car is mindblowing. He is often racing next to Stroll who is in a much slower car. That says it all for me. Even Sargeant has been better than Checo.
I think Stroll is under a lot of pressure from his Father. YES I SAID IT, I think his Dad is telling him that he should not waste his investment that he should not be a disgrace to the family name Etc etc, I think that is getting to Lance because not only is he a disappointment to himself, his Dad is finally losinh faith with him.
It's sad most of you tubers are now pushing the 2nd Driver nonsense.
Teams build the fastest car, to the rules, that they can. The drivers drive and adapt to the style of the car. As the car is developed, some drivers drop off.
Max is the best at driving a fast car.
Both cases are interesting. The window licker is against Fernando Sigmalonso, and he has never faced a tough teammate as 'Nando.
Sergio, in the other hand, has a disavantage called Max Verstappen in his prime, completely comfortable with the car, and what's worst is the fact that he has MASSIVE EXPERIENCE and a rocketship designed by Adrian F*cking Newey.
Checo is living a downfall and we're seeing it. Lance, otherwise, never had that much to show, beyond this that we're seeing. That's top Stroll, performance, and as we say here in Brazil, Stroll is a "banana-tree that already gave all bunchs possible".
That's the difference between both.
Stroll is a menace, no talent but daddy owns the team so nobody is brave enough to say anything ... its like Lance is Vladimir Putin's son and everyone is scared to tell his dad that sonny needs to go away.
It's really an idiot thinking of the fans, One is doing nothing at all, the other is second on the championship. Not driving well, but no one is considering Red Bull is giving everything to Max, not to him.
Vitch Tits has been worse for sure. Aston will finish 5th in the constructors because of him when they should have been 2nd comfortably if they had a competent 2nd driver with Alonso