Calligraphing a Bach chaconne

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  • The solo violin chaconne calligraphed after the autograph BWV 1004.
    A short video about some aspects of the process.
    Copying in the writing style of Johann Sebastian Bach - with the same tools, materials and dimensions.
    A story about tensions between staying close to the original and editorial interventions.
    A copy made for my good friend and awesome guitarist Danton Oestreich.
    About spacing, pencil use, arpeggio’s, being inventive, corrections, thin ice, meaning of symbols.
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  • @escargotomy
    @escargotomy 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Truly fascinating. I took a college level course on Bach 35 years ago and thought then I will never know all there is to know about him. True to those thoughts, I still learn more about the man and his music every year. I wonder if he had even the slightest idea that he would keep humanity awestruck, inspired, and thankful almost 350 years after his lifetime? What would he think to know his music is headed out of the galaxy on the Voyager probe to be possibly heard by alien races one day thousands or millions of years from now? His music might be the final evidence of humanity's existence long after our world is gone. How fitting.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is a wonderful experience to be able to be awestruck every day without the experience diminishing, on the contrary, it only grows!

    • @alanbash2921
      @alanbash2921 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yours is a Truly Outstanding Comment 📣📣📣📣 ...... it makes me think that there is hope for us after all ! 🎼 Alan B.
      Juilliard M.M. 1977 Piano

  • @Patrick-ryan-collins
    @Patrick-ryan-collins 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for this deep dive. ❤❤❤

  • @hori166
    @hori166 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I'm so glad the AI God placed your channel on my TH-cam page. I've always wondered how composers wrote scores before the invention of the steel nib. I looked at some Handel autograph scores in the British Museum and was amazed at how fine the lines were and wondered if they were in fact made with a quill. Now I know that it has to do with rotating the quill to the side.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, the fine lines have also intrigued me for a long time. I learn quite slowly and it took a while before I started to succeed a bit. But at a certain point my technique was so good that the lines even became too thin, which was a special moment to have to adjust it.

  • @Ihavegivenup825
    @Ihavegivenup825 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Zeeeeer ontspannend te zien dit. Dit heeft me doen inzien dat manuscripten kunstwerken op zich zijn. De geest van de componist komt erin door.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ja, dat is de kern van mijn beleving

  • @artofcomposing
    @artofcomposing หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love this video Joost. It has many great insights into Bach's compositional process that could only be deduced by someone who truly understands the art of calligraphy.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much Jon! It feels good to receive a compliment from such an excellent teacher, craftsman and artist like you. I remember reading years ago that you were also into calligraphy, maybe I'm wrong, but I assume you also have a keen eye for the quality of calligraphy. I have mixed feelings about presenting my work because it might take an extra year of practice before it's good enough. On the other hand, it helps and teaches me to find words, images and stories to focus on Bach's great handwriting.

    • @artofcomposing
      @artofcomposing หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joostwitte5546 Thats correct. My Grandma is an excellent calligrapher and taught me a basic alphabet. I've attempted to copy out some Bach and Beethoven with a calligraphy pen, but I found it quite difficult at the time. In general, I am a fan of sketches and manuscripts. I feel like you can learn a lot about how a composer works by seeing the way they write.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@artofcomposing Yes, it is just as complex as learning to play a musical instrument, I think. Actually describing how a composer works and the insights this provides is also complex, but I experience it as a very fruitful method.

  • @milolouis
    @milolouis หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Wow thank you so much. Beautifully engaging method to explain this magic

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That is very motivating to hear!

  • @nightspore4850
    @nightspore4850 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So many interesting and important considerations arise in considering the calligraphy that had never occurred to me. Quite a revelation. The original scores can actually be visually expressive in themselves. This is my second video since subscribing and both have opened up new dimensions. Great detective work.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, close reading has something of crime scene investigation. Having an eye for the expressive quality of the calligraphy is such an enrichment and joy. There is a world of details to discover hardly and sometimes not known in collective wisdom.

  • @IgnatiusZaaijman
    @IgnatiusZaaijman หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Beautiful! There is so much to learn about the way to play Bach just by looking at his manuscripts. Lovely penmanship!

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great to hear Ignatius! Thank you for watching.

    • @Ziad3195
      @Ziad3195 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really? What do you learn about how to play Bach by watching this video?

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Great question! Nothing new under the sun of course, but some points may be relevant, such as awareness of subjective editorial choices, noticing layout choices and the impact on the overview, having an eye for the expressiveness and appreciation of calligraphy, focusing on close reading and the significance of details and formulation criteria for valuing a score, each of which can influence the way it can be played.

    • @Ziad3195
      @Ziad3195 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joostwitte5546 Sorry, I didn't understand your comment. Anyways, I think your video is really cool.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Ziad3195 Thanks Ziad, that's nice to hear!

  • @chrismoser3481
    @chrismoser3481 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is my new favorite channel on youtube

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Chris, I feel very honored

  • @scheepalicious
    @scheepalicious 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I enjoyed following you on your journey very much. Please - and I know this is easy for me to say and challenging for you to do - keep it up. Soli deo gloria!

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the encouragement and appreciation, it means a lot to me!

  • @theKantianCat
    @theKantianCat หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your videos! Thank you so much! Chaconne is one of my favourite pieces so it was really fascinating to learn so much details about it

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Kantian Cat, it's great to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I always love to play Bach from his original scores

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The original scores are so vibrant and radiant

  • @Nekog1rl
    @Nekog1rl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am so glad the TH-cam algorithm recommended this video to me. I'm a calligrapher, so I really appreciate your penmanship and attention to detail! Copying someone's style is difficult but rewarding. I'm also a musician, yet I have to admit I had hitherto given no consideration to how the ink on the page could affect performance practice beyond "play this note at this time." So thank you for this enlightening video. Keep up the excellent work! ~The Qwyrdo

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am happy you shared your impressions and will remember your words when making a new video that those kind of stories are worthwhile to be told.

  • @maksimivanov5417
    @maksimivanov5417 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks a lot for this careful and loving analysis!

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, it feels good to read that!

  • @Contrapunctus1750
    @Contrapunctus1750 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is such a fascinating video. You've done beautiful work.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Tom, your words make me happy!

  • @syroyid
    @syroyid 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Didn't even know that someone actually studied this to the leve. I am amazed

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the compliment!

    • @syroyid
      @syroyid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joostwitte5546 I really look forward to more videos like this. It is pure gold and a joy to watch and study Bach's manuscripts.

  • @johnpeskey4519
    @johnpeskey4519 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is so cool! Thanks!

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your qualification!

  • @harryjoseph1802
    @harryjoseph1802 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sir, This is indeed painstaking work Mr. Witte as was the application of this remarkable composer to his trade. The outlay for his compostions was clearly thought out, whether it be for solo instruments or larger works. Stupendous. It's like watching a master sculptor like Michael Angello chip away at his marble block in note values, large breves to fine demi-semi quavers to create his master pieces. Thank you for your masterful insight and giving us a glimpse of how Bach wrought his 'architecture' from thought to paper.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it sometimes feels like a glimpse into Bach's head - thanks for the eloquent words!

  • @alanbash2921
    @alanbash2921 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You Can Sense Genius Just by Looking at Bach’s Calligraphy.....even before hearing one note 📣📣📣📣

  • @ShipbuilderZaochuanjia
    @ShipbuilderZaochuanjia 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful handwriting!

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, that's nice to hear!

  • @user-yu9ov8mx3t
    @user-yu9ov8mx3t 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is a famous relationship between violin playing and calligraphy, cf. e.g. Suzuki and Japanese calligraphy. Also: Bach's sheet music in his own handwriting evokes waves/Wellen. A Bach is a creek, in Hebrew Yuval, the father of all the violin (string) and flute (organ) players, Gen/Br 4:21.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love this kind of meanings!

    • @user-yu9ov8mx3t
      @user-yu9ov8mx3t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joostwitte5546 Bedankt, Joost. Then you might be susceptible for this also: In the writing system of musicians and in the language that Bach used it is possible to write his name with a single note on the central staff line. It’s even possible to add accidentals for keys with a corresponding letter for Bach’s name. Thus the central note (B) in B-Dur with violin key, 2nd letter/note: a in a-moll with tenor key, 3. C-Dur with alto-key, 4. h-moll with violin key. Note that this is only possible because of this peculiar shift of naming the note between a and c as an “h” instead of the logical “b”, which might go back to a scribal error. Yéhouda ben Yuval

  • @marshallross3373
    @marshallross3373 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What a cool subject and interesting video. Where did you get your quill, and what paper are you using?

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The feather comes from a swan, I pick it up when they are moulting from June to September. The paper is made in India and the fibers are from hemp and rags.

  • @MrAtomicPig
    @MrAtomicPig 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very very beautiful

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, it's nice to hear that!

    • @MrAtomicPig
      @MrAtomicPig 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joostwitte5546 There's no exaggeration, I tried to practice writing scores in pencil... failed badly! 🐖

  • @cjbprime
    @cjbprime 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was great! The choice of Italian "Ciaccona" naming and title stylization with three Cs is also intentional, thought to be a reference to "Christus coronabit crucigeros".

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks, I didn't realize that the 3 c's are a reference.

  • @JabubMontoya
    @JabubMontoya 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazingly done!

  • @quatricise
    @quatricise 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had no idea that curved beams could be a thing or that they could look so good. I'd much prefer them over the standard straight and angular beams.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it are the beams that makes it pretty and connect and dance!

  • @antoinebalaine2061
    @antoinebalaine2061 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's fascinating. I'm trying out some music nibs for writing scores lately, and they're awful hard. I can't imagine what using a quill must have been.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Calligraphy is like learning to play a musical instrument with a similar learning curve for mastery I think. A quill is like holding a Stradivarius in your hands.

  • @sarbangrimm5858
    @sarbangrimm5858 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inspiring. Do you sell these? Or do you do requests? Would like to have a copy of several Bach pieces I play

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I work on commission, at the end of the ink video you can find my email address for contact, I don't write it here so as not to be picked up by spambots.

  • @vittoriosommese
    @vittoriosommese หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice

  • @DavidPRose
    @DavidPRose 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Mr. Witte’s complete recalligraphed score of Chaconne available for purchase or viewing online? How nice it would be to have a side-by-side display of Bach’s autograph and Witte’s recreation of it.

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My scores are for sale, contact is possible via the email address at the end of the video - I don't like to mention it here to avoid spam mail from bots. On my Instagram account @happy.sad.sad.happy.bach you can see various scores, as well as music performances based on my copies.

  • @Divergent_Integral
    @Divergent_Integral 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A question from someone who knows relatively little about (music) calligraphy: what are the specific benefits of using a quill pen as opposed to a flexible metal dip nib?

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Such a great question! The best way to find out is by actual experience. A quill is such an ideal combination of strength and ductility, making it a very fine tuned sensitive tool - the superlative for expressive, personal communication - there is no better writing equipment.

    • @Divergent_Integral
      @Divergent_Integral 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@joostwitte5546 Thanks for taking the time to answer my question! Alas, I have no calligraphy skill whatsoever. But I certainly enjoy yours. Please keep up the good work. It's so important to keep history alive in this hands-on way.

  • @davidramos4707
    @davidramos4707 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you have a website where you sell this kind of stuff?

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I do scores in commission, contact via Dm on Insta: @happy.sad.sad.happy.bach or G mail adres visible at the end of the Ink video

  • @thulsa_doom
    @thulsa_doom 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is that J.S. Bach's hand writting or his copyist's, though?

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I selected the autograph from Berlin Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin - Preußischer Kulturbesitz D-B Mus.ms. Bach P 967 for making a copy.

    • @thulsa_doom
      @thulsa_doom 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joostwitte5546 amazing! I live in Berlin, and l will visit this library any time soon this week.

    • @conradgittins4476
      @conradgittins4476 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's possible that it is the hand of Anna Magdalena.

  • @davidramos4707
    @davidramos4707 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You had me until you started writing out the arpeggio. Totally unnecessary. Also, playing the four part harmony faithfully is difficult but very possible

    • @joostwitte5546
      @joostwitte5546  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The writing out has the potential for some to be helpful. Someday when I will do the violin pieces complete I will prefer the way Bach did it.