The Differences Between Fiddle and Violin
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- These tunes are pretty much all played in Cajun tuning (DGCF smallest to largest) which is one whole step down from standard tuning (EADG). Each string is called out by its standard tuning name.
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I remember seeing a TV programme on Scottish television back in the early 1970s when the great violin maestro Sir Yehudi Menuhin went exploring the Scottish fiddle tradition in Niel Gow country and he had a meeting with the legendary master of Scottish traditional fiddle playing, Hector MacAndrew in the ballroom at Blair Castle (ancestral seat of the Duke of Atholl) who endeavoured to teach Menuhin the art of playing the Scottish strathspey. You could clearly hear the difference between the fiddler and the concert violinist with Menuhin really struggling to master the Scots Snap which is the vital component of the up-driven bow in the traditional strathspey, and I will always remember MacAndrew saying, "Aye laddie, ye've almaist got it!"
Great story! Thanks for sharing 🎻
Old-time fiddlers were often referred to as a dance band, and held the fiddle against their chest so that they could call a square dance while playing the dance tune.
That's a great little bit of history too!
My dad back in 1930s played fiddle in a band... He was an old man when I was born and by that time He had stopped playing. I really would have like to have heard him play. But I now am learning the fiddle/violin. I prefer fiddle. Hope he likes it...wherever he is in the beyond.
Thanks for sharing, Eileen. Here’s to all the fiddlers🎻
The difference is a violin is cared in a case and a fiddle is carried in a flour sack!
😆 i love it
Maybe so, but both have demanding expectations that a lot of time and talent are required to meet. Sounds like melodies/rhythms used by maritime communities other small & portable instruments influenced fiddle playing. Violin compositions made to go with furniture, like harpsichord or large string bass.
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I came back later and a different advertisement did not appear on top of the video and I was able to read the subtitles. GREAT VIDEO!
I made a point of adding subtitles to increase accessibility so I’m glad it worked out for you🎻
What a wonderful player and teacher. Many players can’t teach but you are a fantastic teacher as well as an astounding player. Wow.
Thanks for such a high compliment, Jil!
Love this! As I learned it, the difference is you don’t spill beer on a violin. I learn a lot from your channel.
I’m glad you’re here learning but even more😂thanks for the laugh…
I been listening to you sir for years. I love that you are so kind with your time to teach your skills to others. Us fiddler players got to sick together!
Thanks so much for being a part of this community, Jeremy🎻here’s to fiddling!
The words “fiddle” and “violin” are two names for the same stringed instrument-fiddle is just an informal way of referring to the violin. In the context of classical music, it’s typically called a violin. In a bluegrass band, it’s more likely to be called a fiddle.
Technically, the word fiddle can refer to any instrument in the viol family (a family of stringed instruments that preceded the violin family). But most commonly, fiddle is simply used as an informal name for the violin.
Thank You so very much !!! I'm finding that all of your videos are pieces of gold and I'm trying to learn as much as possible. You break everything down and not only teach by giving a little trivia / history / back story , but you inspire. Thank You !!!
That's great, Russ...Thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed this! Loved your succinct historical connections to techniques too. My daughter played Suzuki method for 9 years but quit recently (insert heartbreak here). She started lessons because she told me she wanted to learn "the fiddle," but we never found the teacher/group/...to give her access to learning it. Going to send her your vid. Maybe it will keep the spark. Great post.
Yes! Thanks for sharing.
I just subscribed. Wonderful. I hope you play complete songs as I love violin/fiddle music. Welcome to my collection of talented people!
Thanks Mark! If you like this, there’s much more on my website! www.mitchreedmusiclessons.com
very fine sounding instrument. you play very well. very pleasant to hear...
I have heard that the words ‘fiddle’ and ‘viol’ have the same Latin root, which is ‘vitula’. Germanic speakers heard one sound, and romance speakers heard another.
Interesting. Thanks for watching🎻
Wonderful!
My poor dogs are howling it's so bad but it's howl queit since I found your videos .Please keep em comin
Mark O’Conner once (maybe more than once) was asked the difference. He said you play the violin sitting down and the fiddle standing up.
🎻he isn’t wrong! 😂
Great video!
great channel bro!
Very informative and fun! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for chiming in🎻
Thank you for explaining the difference and for playing some tunes. So it’s the same instrument but different styles of playing.
That’s right🎻
HURGHHHHHHH THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
Man your so goooood. I love it
Thanks a ton!
Nice job.
Excelente. Gracias
Merci!
Thank you for this video. I clicked on this video to learn the difference and found something that helped my daughter. She was born without a thumb and we've been searching for a better way for her to hold a bow and one of your hand positions that you showed on how some people hold the bow actually helped( the spot where you showed how one could hold the bow with two fingers slipped below and two on top). I'm so glad I clicked on this video.
I'm glad you did, too. Thanks for sharing your story and let me know if she has any questions.
Very interesting, thanks for posting this.
Thanks Alan, glad you enjoyed!
I am a classically trained violinist but I want to explore the more traditional styles - especially Cajun so I am delighted to have found your channel.
It’s good you decided to switch over. Dont need that classical training messing up your Cajun fiddling!
Mitch Reed Music Lessons I try to make a distinction between styles and techniques. For classical music I use the orthodox bow hold and stance. Now that I am exploring traditional fiddle playing, I use a completely different grip and posture. I find your examples of ornamentation/slides very useful. My main difficulty coming from classical training is that I find learning by ear a bit of a challenge. My first instinct is to look for sheet music, I can sight read anything but playing by ear is something else. I put on my headphones and play along with you. Thanks again and have a great day.
Cool!
Found you on you tube tho so I'm better some so keep up the detailed explanations please for my poor Dad and sis if not for meman
Excellent video and playing! What make/model violin are you using? The tone is beautiful.
Mitch Reed Music Lessons : DAYYUUMM!!! Do you have a spare room in your house so I can move in and listen to you? I would love to hear you play "Cajun Fiddle". Is there a video of you on TH-cam playing "Cajun Fiddle"? I have always heard that basically, the only difference between a fiddle and a violin is who's playing it and the type of music being played on it. Thank you for uploading this incredible video. I just love it.
Yep. Bowed string instruments are fiddles. All of them. Cello, erhu, violin, morin khur, whatever. Otherwise "fiddling" is pretty
Looks like the main difference is that violin playing is long strokes and fiddle playing is short strokes. I'm thinking that Hill folks dancing is based on Irish clogging so you need the short strokes to give them a beat to hop around on.
I really dig your sound man ! what type of strings are those ? what about the violin itself?
I use Dr. Thomastik dominants on all my fiddles. This particular instrument is an old French fiddle given to me by one of my fiddling heroes years ago. Thanks for watching🎻
According to David Greely - The difference between a violin and a fiddle is the NUT on the end of the bow 🤪. Nice work Mitch 👍
Good one!
i cant play or read music or anything and some stuff was a bit over my head but even i enjoyed the video so im sure ppl who know more like it even more.
Cajun is an oral tradition so it’s usually not written down but instead learned by ear. It’s very approachable...thanks for tuning in!
It's crazy how good your violin sound. Which model it is ?
A violin is just a fiddle that went to college.
banjoboy1941 oof
And a latte is just a cup of coffee with $5 thrown in it, just depends on what you want to do with the materials you’re presented with ;)
Thanks for watching Banjoboy!
Violin music is before fiddle music(:
Nope,a fiddle is a violin who got drunk.
@@pitmezzari2873 nah... fiddle is violin that dreams of playing with the Who, or the Stones...violin makes you think. fiddle makes you dance... and they both give you goosebumps.
Violin is technically just a type of fiddle. Bowed stringed instruments are fiddles whether violin, viola, erhu, morin khur, cello, etc.
An old Bob Wills fiddle player told me that the difference between fiddle and violin was the man behind it.
how true!
I have seen a number of fiddlers who hols it against the shoulder rather than under the chin
Hey I gotta say you are awesome! I already play and write my own on guitar and piano but started it up on a stratovarious handed down 4 generations and my momma let me have it when I was eight .well sister stole it one day as I had just learned the start of devil went down to gaa. She sold it and would not tell us where because she wanted to keep the weed (a 1/4) she bought with the $. So then mamma gave me her guitar to play dad gave me his clarinet from the Navy band he was in and I still have them .at 18 dad bought me a custom Alvarez I still have with the picks casestand and cleaning kit all still inside and in tune tho I play it like a banjo sorta so no picks (reason the picks are still with it unused) got on the radio and then after gettin
It is spelled Stradivarius.
Sad that your sister valued her weed habit above a fine, valuable instrument.
What if I wanted to play a fast tune like the king of the fairies, also, what are the other two strings on the other side used for?
Thank you for the video! :)
Hey Robert, thanks for tuning in. I have a video that lays it out a little more. th-cam.com/video/HHnpag9TCXs/w-d-xo.html
When I saw fiddle players hold the fiddle low against their arm, I thought it was just to make it more comfortable to sing.
That IS why they do it. So they can sing or call square dances and fiddle at the same time.?
Perhaps we have all seen a lot of movies where the actor wasn’t holding it correctly too and that has subconsciously affected how we think it should be held. I don’t know if that is the case though.
I don't think there's as much as a divide between classical and folk as modern musicians like to think. You have to imagine that the great composers of the day were influenced by the folk music they undoubtedly heard everywhere they went. You can hear a lot of Bariolage in Vivaldi and Bach such as his Partita No. 3, as well as strong folk influences in Brahm's hungarian dance. It would be really interesting to hear a fiddler re-interpret those pieces and add a swing bowing/rythym and ornaments to it.
I am wondering if we really need to differentiate it? For instance the piano... no matter what the genre or style of playing it is still called the piano/Pianoforte or in general a keyboard.
Can't the fiddle or violin be the same? only called differently? Just my 2 cents ha ha ha fiddle or violin both is good for me.
If I wanted to play the violin but play more folk and country music would taking violin lessons be ok or are there specific lessons if you want to play the fiddle?
Taking classical violin would be different if you're wanting to get a blues-y tone. The tuning and techniques would vary from what a standard violin teacher would provide you. This video covers a lot in a short time. Hope it helps! th-cam.com/video/VCWuuqUwckA/w-d-xo.html
Hey, very interesting. I'm a music student from Brasil. Here we have the "rabeca", kind of a brazillian fiddle (with arabic origin). But the rabeca, as a handmade object, can have many kinds of shapes, sizes, tunings. How did the old-time fiddlers get their fiddles? Great channel! Thanks!
Great question! Around here lot of fiddlers made their own fiddles out of cigar boxes and they used screen door wires for strings. But there were also lots of violins coming down into the area from the larger cities around Appalachia. Thanks for tuning in, Rodrigo!
The arabic word is 'rebec', the spanish one 'rabel'. It's still played in some rural areas of Spain, generally 2 or 3 strings and most times on the leg :)
I would like to hear that same piece by Bach played the fiddle style!
Oh that'd be a cool experiment!
Sir, I've noticed that a lot of fiddlers prefer steel core strings than synthetic. Do you lower the bridge due to the higher tension and thinner strings than synthetics. It seems that quite a few prefer Helicore steel strings which are 53.0 lbs. tension, than say Dominants which are 48.3 lbs.. My current fiddle is set at 3mm on E and 4mm on G. I took it to a luthier and he thought it was too low but, there was no buzzing and good volume and projection.
A fiddle is a violin you can spill beer on.
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This so reminds me of the American Civil War
i want to play fiddle everytime I google fiddles to buy violins come up is it the same thing?
yep.
The Lemonboiz the only difference is, a violin has strings, and a fiddle has strangs.
Look up the definition of "fiddle" and you'll see why! Violin is one of many kinds of fiddles. It's like the difference between a motor vehicle and a 4 door sedan. One is an variant of the other.
I noticed that you had 666 subscribers and I am glad I'm not that poor soul, but I'm 667:)
Thanks Thomas! We really appreciate you keeping the bad gris gris away! Hope you enjoy!
Mitch when you referred to the tune 'Dennis' simply called 'Mazurka'...What Dennis was that
Dennis McGee. I talk a lot about him over on my vlog. I break down some of his tunes as well. mitchreedmusiclessons.com/?s=+dennis+mcgee
@@MitchReedMusicLessons reason I ask is because I had a great fiddle teacher that also had a tune he just called Mazurka and his name is Dennis. I thought what would be the odds. I just came across your videos and I loved the one on fiddle vs violin
@@jackverheyden2958 What a coincidence! Thanks for tuning in.
Anyway you know fiddles aren't cheap and I'm not rich but I've always wanted to play the fiddle as I was meant to do and never have let it go .Now I have turned 48 ,since have played every thing from my clarinet ,oboe ,mnt harp,guitar,mandolin ,juice harp,and a little ukelele too,but a fiddle stayed out of reach .but I have one now case 4extra sound posts 2bows ,New strings ,rosin,and first time I've SUCKED BAD SO. BAD WOW
fretless instruments can be a major frustration. finger position is paramount to be in key. you have an advantage tho as you already play guitar and mandolin and should have tough fingertips. a good ear helps but finger position is everything and working a bow is a whole lot different than strumming or chording. you already have a knowledge of music and can hear bad notes and that is required. be patient. you have years to learn and violin is difficult. a little a day goes a long way. by the way i had to laugh out loud at your last remark. violins can make some godawful sounds. WOW indeed.
actually the main diff. goes back to the norman conquest when there were 2 languages in england- Germanic and french/ latin - later to be blended into the English language . if you were a commoner or peasant having been conquered you would have been most likely anglo saxon and the word for you would have been fiddle - if you were of the ruling class - violin would be what you would call the instrument. because of that fiddle is now associated with the lower classes , folk , peasants, etc.
Thanks for the history Jonathan! What I’m talking about here is what the difference is between fiddling and playing violin. At least nowadays, there is not a difference instrument-wise between a fiddle and a violin except for what is being played with it (though generally people might refer to a cheaper violin as a fiddle).
Thanks for posting!
I've heard virtuoso violin players, e.g.,
Jascha Heifetz
, refer to their multi-million dollar instruments as fiddles. I suppose it is an effort to seem more plebeian and approachable.
Galway girl brought me here...
You have so much better real folk music to listen to!!!
How to hold a fiddle from Evil Roy Slade th-cam.com/video/SGuhv8ls_D8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing. I've only briefly touched on that.
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Watch the whole movie
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Its simple, no difference except the music and make the strings, or in case of a fiddler would say strangs
Haha that's a great one, Joe!
Chased a mile down mainstreet a group of hick wierdo groupies from hell caught me and ripped out a hunk of my hair screaming I got it and running away.So fame is not on my list ever.Now I have an electric piano and a Wurlitzer organ from a long time past from the skating rink days that had it played by someone all night while skaters round and rounded to it instead of recorded artists.(rink is still open and owned by same folks)
fiddle is sometime druck Irish violin
Thanks for watching!
Same instrument just played in a different way
I play my music on a fiddle and someone else's music on a violin.
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Foolishness! The difference is a violin has strings. What does a fiddle have you ask? STRANGS!!!
Haha!
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Fiddle music has much more rhythm
When people ask me the difference between a fiddle and a violin I tell them about $500...classical trained fiddler here...
:)
do you evan know that a fiddle is a violin wow i bet your mind is blown
Well, fiddles in past times (more than a century ago) were made with scrap material found here and there, it was poor man hand made because no money to buy a "real" violin. Violins, like it looks in modern days, were luthier's art and pricey - available mostly for classical musicians playing for the bourgeoisie and Kings. So it is a modern conception that fiddles and violins are the same; only since industrial mass production has lowered violins' price so almost everyone can now buy one - exception, in poor countries today, sitll many people make their own instruments with scrap material savaged here and there in garbages... By the way, I do not agree there is a right way to hold violin or bow in fiddling world, this is a classical music statement you are repeating because you started learning in classical music set up. The kind of sound one is looking for in authentic historical fiddling is totally different than what classical musicians are trained for (fiddling avoids vibrato and emphasize rythmic and free ornementations improvisation on simple repetitive melody patterns , classical music emphasizes complex melody and more by the book sheets of music approach).
actualy the violin is just a fiddle that is played in classical music, and the fiddle is a country violin
Fiddle is a generic term for a bowed stringed instrument. The violin and erhu are both fiddles. Fiddle is a Germanic word, whereas violin is a romance word. All violins are fiddles but not all fiddles are violins. In modern usage the terms have come to have more to do with the music one plays and less to do with a designation of instrument. Classical is played on a violin and folk styles are played on a fiddle.
Did you smoke the joint before or after you made this video ? Dud, you stoned.
Stanley Denning he wouldn’t be stoned in the video if he smoked after the video was recorded now would he?
No such thing as a fiddle.