In fairness, the music video for Cloudbusting does at least feature Kate Bush running up a hill, something which does not appear in the music video for Running Up That Hill.
I find 5:30 really emblematic of the TechDif crew: Matt does a bit of silly wordplay (that might easily have been too random to work); Gary decides to continue the gag and reaches into his endless trove of pop-culture knowledge; Chris isn't having any of it.
A random sign, a pun that got the audience to reluctantly clap, and not one but TWO moments in stereo. This was a heck of an episode. Probably my favorite.
It's a pity you didn't look up what Lead (II) Iodide actually looks like, because you would have had the horrible realization the US Military was giving Laos a Golden Shower.
Did you also happen upon the fact how iodine is also yellow (brown in concentration) as Matt and Tom said. It turns blue/black in the presence of starch
_Running_ _Up_ _That_ _Hill_ is actually a different Kate Bush song, but other than quoting the wrong lyrics, Gary's description of the _Cloudbusting_ music video is spot on. Source: very big _Hounds_ _Of_ _Love_ fan.
I often come to this episode specifically because "who would have want that" and "very very frightening" are sentences that my brain likes to remind me of in random moments. Those are probably my favourite moments of Citations needed
Don't know if the editing is just very good, but I'm impressed by how silly everyone is whilst also being really freaking quiet when Tom is talking. I find things like this get annoying because people talk over each other all the time to get their little jokes in, but this was very well-ordered! Good proportion of improvisation / scriptedness!
My god this is the best Citation Needed _*EVER*_! By far! With the perfect sync, Chris's sign, the applause for Matt's intro, and in general the quips were even more above average the usual!
13:07 the answer actually is that the NWS actually flies p3 orions through almost every hurricane that is going to hit landfall. The p3 is extremely robust. They fly straight through the hurricane eye wall through the eye and out the other side. There was one instance where one of the "Hurricane Hunter" planes lost an engine while they were entering the eye wall. The p3 is a badass plane.
For those wondering acetylene and oxygen is what mechanics use for heating components and cutting torches. An old prank was to fill a small bottle with it and light it off which creates a very loud bang, from speaking to an old mechanic someone once did it with a 4 pint milk bottle. The bang was strong enough to break the windows on the shop floor. So using an acetylene bomb for breaking up hail wasn't really to bad of an idea in theory
Well, heck, a typical Fuel-Air bomb is created with nothing more than atomised diesel and ordinary atmosphere, and those have been responsible for some of the largest non-nuclear, non-meteoric explosions ever recorded, so I can imagine something similar created with acetylene and oxygen would be extremely potent.
Ended replaying this for essentially accidental reasons, and "Ooh me hailstones" just made me inhale my drink and damn near choke to death. Still trying to get the orangeade out of my bronchioles. Well done on crafting an enduring legacy of intellectual yet puerile hilarity, chaps.
I think my favorite part of this episode is everyone's favorite Garry Brannon, Garry Brannon going 'that's a Kate Bush song' and then quoting the wrong Kate Bush song repeatedly.
6:03 - This guy doing the *jocular raising of imaginary glasses* while wearing glasses really tickled me! I've just discovered this series, years and years late, and it's totally brilliant!
10:14 - The B-side of the Pop Will Eat Itself single 'Love Missile F1-11' (a shambolic, though brilliant cover of the Sigue Sigue Sputnik hit), is entitled: 'Orgone Accumulator', which was another batshit mental pile of bollocks invented by Wilhelm Reich. And the Lockheed P3 Orion is not a dull aircraft. It's a long range maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. And they carry lots of gear to twat enemy submarines with.
It's a reference to the song 'Ebeneezer Goode', best known for its chorus "'Eezer Goode, 'Eezer Goode / He's Ebeneezer Goode", which was released by The Shamen. And yes, I did have to look that up.
I think... there was a song by a British Band called "The Shamen" and they had a song called "Ebenezer Goode" which cause some controversy as the chorus was full of the phrase "E's are good" (As in the party drug Ecstasy) - Probably wrong though.
The treaty mentioned was only to prevent the use of weather control in warfare. The US has used it extensively for crop production during drought, and the Chinese used it before the Beijing Olympics to prevent rain during the opening ceremonies. Both used silver iodide. It's used all over the world really.
If it weren't for repeated viewings of Todd in the Shadows' episode on the band EMF and the closed captioning on this video, I would never have gotten Matt Gray's opening gag. *single polite golf clap*
I'd like to add: the number of citations after the word "pseudoscientific" in the article for orgone has increased to 9 edit: as of 2023, there's only 1 citation linked after the word now, but the citation itself is a list of all the citations for it, which is now eight of them.
This may be about a strange esoteric method of spirit healing that I have never heard of before, but I think the most baffling part about this is that Prince thinks water is blue. Like, I guess you could consider it a symbolic mixing of colour, water associated with blue and blood associated with red, makes the associated colour purple. It's just strange to me.
@@peter_smyth Oh yeah! It was the predecessor to this, the Tech Diff podcast. And I think the consensus was that Tom is better at hosting these things than the others, by a wide margin. It was a bit chaotic.
As someone who, until last year, had lived in Houston, Tx her whole life (and thus living through 9 named storms passing over, including Harvey taking half my belongings with it) AND whose father worked for Lockheed for decades, all I needed was "Project Stormfury" to think "project to seed hurricanes in the hopes of preventing them, eventually became the department in which NOAA *still* uses two customized P-3s from the 70s to forecast and monitor hurricanes by flying through them to directly measure top windspeed and vectors"
Those who were in the audience for this may remember a large diversion on "orgone energy" that will never, ever be shown to the world...
Tom Scott cmon, i want in on the fun
How did you know this video will be here 3 weeks before the upload? Are you a time traveller?
3WEEKS AGO?????
time travel once again
Before I even watch the video... Please don't end Citation Needed... We would love if it continued especially in a dining room :)
I think "Why would you want that?" Is still my favorite moment in this show ever. I mean, same volume, cadence, inflection, everything. Amazing.
And very, very frightening
@@SteakEater-pp5jg Thunderbolts and Lightning
they even did the same movements, absolutely perfect
It helps that they're both from Yorkshire
And their movements and faces are the same also
I love how Gary says "This is Cloudbusting by Kate Bush" and then proceeds to quote the lyrics to _Running Up That Hill_ instead.
And now I just remember this episode every time I turn on the radio
@@JesperoTV Same haha
That's the joke..
@@JDoyle That's why they love it
In fairness, the music video for Cloudbusting does at least feature Kate Bush running up a hill, something which does not appear in the music video for Running Up That Hill.
"Oh, they're in tune tonight!"
You had no idea how right you were.
Exactly what I was thinking
Citation needed in Stereo
1:50 : Hail Seeding
4:28 : Thunderbolts and lightning
This is freaking great
Mystery Biscuits!!!
funny enough, 4:01 : ...conclusive
a bit late but 11:00 - the weather a buggery bouty treaty
1:44 ooh
I find 5:30 really emblematic of the TechDif crew: Matt does a bit of silly wordplay (that might easily have been too random to work); Gary decides to continue the gag and reaches into his endless trove of pop-culture knowledge; Chris isn't having any of it.
I especially just love the hard cut to Chris with his head in his palms.
A random sign, a pun that got the audience to reluctantly clap, and not one but TWO moments in stereo. This was a heck of an episode. Probably my favorite.
11:45 - "What was the US Government trying to do between '62 and '83?"
13:36 - "1962 to 1983, have the last point"
yeh, Tom forgot about that I guess.
Matt would've won anyway
I noticed.
Where is the Arctic Research Laboratory?
Sean M Is it like invisible ink?
Chris’ opening was probably the greatest one of the entirety of TechDif history
And Gary can't help but *wheezing*
ＮＥＰＯ
ＳＬＩＡＮ
The fact that he pulled it out upside down makes it even funnier.
And everybody’s favourite Gary Brannan follows up with his own introduction thanks to the power of editing
next week's prize: a group of bisexual Scandinavian royalty who ride motorcycles;
*the bikings*
Not bad.
That's like three puns in one, I absolutely love it :D
this pun has too much power
Or the viking biker bi kings!
@@Kej1m better yet, the biking viking bi kings.
nearly two years on, and "Why would you want that?" is still funny.
Three years later, and this is still my all-time favorite Citation Needed episode.
I’ve replayed that part and the “very, very frightening” at least 50 times each
4yrs later too
4 years later and its still a belter
The audience was kept at pun point.
Goddamnit
Tribe of the Iron Flame godDAMit, because dams hold water like clouds
I’m sorry, I’ll get me coat
No, the jokes were just a cruel _pun_-ishment
I don’t get the “secret shamanist message” bit
*groan*
1:49 is the most incredible thing i have ever in my life witnessed.
Holy
same, I had to watch that bit about 3 times to make sure it was real
and again at 4:27
This made my day
Very very frightening me, Galileo.
Your friendship is so strong you are starting to develop a hivemind... You think and speak the same thing at the same time.
There's an elf in the corner
Yea
Oh, god. The moment when Chris and Gary said 'Why Would You Want That?' simultaneously always has my sides on fire.
I searched "Tom Scott why would you want that" cause it kept playing in my head and got here again
*_WHy WouLD You WaNT ThAT?!_*
*_VeRy VeRy FrIgHtnInG_*
_Now in stereo._
Citation Needed, now in AM
*WwHhYy WwOoUuLlDd YyOoUu WwAaNnTt TtHhAaTt??*
When you realise that you are spending too much time with your friend!
"Why would you want that?" and "Very very frightening" are still my favourite moments in this series
At 12:37 Chris's 'merican accent is one of the best off-the-cuff accents I've ever heard.
I did not expect it and it utterly killed me. I had to rewind it watch it again
As a native Southerner, I can attest that that is a 117% accurate accent.
It's a pity you didn't look up what Lead (II) Iodide actually looks like, because you would have had the horrible realization the US Military was giving Laos a Golden Shower.
Always a missed opportunity.
Did you also happen upon the fact how iodine is also yellow (brown in concentration) as Matt and Tom said. It turns blue/black in the presence of starch
@@daniwalmsley611 we use those properties of starch to determine the endpoint of iodometric titration
@@daniwalmsley611 Iodine is purple. You're thinking of iodine/iodide solution
ghabber_ Probably thinking of potassium iodide, as it exhibits those color characteristics and is rather common.
2 mystery biscuits in less than 5 minutes must be a record.
Go out on a high note! It would be hard to top this in this format, just as well that they're moving on to a new one.
And both were because Stereo.
Technically 4 because it was for both of them
Still no answer why Chris had that damn sign, lmao
Why not!? Is there any reason for him not to have the sign?
“Why would you want that?”
The fact that the last point was rewarded for repeating a fact that was said two minutes prior fits this so well.
I'm going to miss citation needed so much.... I hope whatever technical diff. gets up to next is as good!
It will be, it's TechDiff.
The Puns, my god the puns... I shall have to retire to the punnary....
Wait are they cancelled the show?
Arthit Pikulngam unfortunately this will be the last season of citation needed, but they are experimenting with new formats
Monty Python the Flying Circus he’s in my top 5 Gary Brannons for sure
_Running_ _Up_ _That_ _Hill_ is actually a different Kate Bush song, but other than quoting the wrong lyrics, Gary's description of the _Cloudbusting_ music video is spot on.
Source: very big _Hounds_ _Of_ _Love_ fan.
The genuine look of happiness on all their faces at the "why would you want that"-moment is amazing!
I often come to this episode specifically because "who would have want that" and "very very frightening" are sentences that my brain likes to remind me of in random moments. Those are probably my favourite moments of Citations needed
The stereo in this video is very, very frightening indeed!
Zzyzx Wolfe I read that as they said it
I wanna rewrite Purple Rain specifically about the Laotian tests now.
It could also be about Agent Purple, Agent Orange's less known herbicidal partner.
Both compounds mentioned (Lead Iodide, Silver Iodide) are bright yellow.
g33kman16 Ah, but "yellow rain" doesn't sound... as good
Hey, fancy seeing you here
@@MiseFreisin Tell that to the US president or R. Kelly... Please...
Don't know if the editing is just very good, but I'm impressed by how silly everyone is whilst also being really freaking quiet when Tom is talking. I find things like this get annoying because people talk over each other all the time to get their little jokes in, but this was very well-ordered! Good proportion of improvisation / scriptedness!
My god this is the best Citation Needed _*EVER*_! By far! With the perfect sync, Chris's sign, the applause for Matt's intro, and in general the quips were even more above average the usual!
13:07 the answer actually is that the NWS actually flies p3 orions through almost every hurricane that is going to hit landfall. The p3 is extremely robust. They fly straight through the hurricane eye wall through the eye and out the other side. There was one instance where one of the "Hurricane Hunter" planes lost an engine while they were entering the eye wall. The p3 is a badass plane.
1:50
Technical difficulties indeed, the vocal wires got crossed!
For those wondering acetylene and oxygen is what mechanics use for heating components and cutting torches. An old prank was to fill a small bottle with it and light it off which creates a very loud bang, from speaking to an old mechanic someone once did it with a 4 pint milk bottle. The bang was strong enough to break the windows on the shop floor.
So using an acetylene bomb for breaking up hail wasn't really to bad of an idea in theory
Well, heck, a typical Fuel-Air bomb is created with nothing more than atomised diesel and ordinary atmosphere, and those have been responsible for some of the largest non-nuclear, non-meteoric explosions ever recorded, so I can imagine something similar created with acetylene and oxygen would be extremely potent.
Mark Penrice yeah I don't think people realise just how powerful a bang a correct fuel air mix can actually create
1:50 4:28 You're welcome.
An excellent TH-cam account cheese bags
jvoji Oh my God I just got that I'm so sorry!
Thanks my guy
Chris's intro to this episode is the best one solely because gary's reaction to it
It's a shame this is the last series of the show, because this is turning out to be the funniest one of the lot.
Wait it is?
Ended replaying this for essentially accidental reasons, and "Ooh me hailstones" just made me inhale my drink and damn near choke to death. Still trying to get the orangeade out of my bronchioles.
Well done on crafting an enduring legacy of intellectual yet puerile hilarity, chaps.
These are the bits you need to watch:
1:44
4:26
*_V E R Y , V E R Y F R I G H E T N I N G_*
Easily the best episode you've ever done; I laughed myself into an asthma attack, and it was totally worth it.
I think my favorite part of this episode is everyone's favorite Garry Brannon, Garry Brannon going 'that's a Kate Bush song' and then quoting the wrong Kate Bush song repeatedly.
Can we just appreciate how good Chris's Ming the Merciless impersonation is?
2 minutes in and I’ve already choked on my food twice
I've learned not to eat while watching
1:50 the greatest moment in the history of Citation Needed.
I love the harmonies in this episode. It’s as if the TechDif crew has become one unified organism working together for the purposes of banter.
The Gary Brannan Drift Compatibility Special
Not yet lel
@@twotothehalf3725 Clearly Matt and Tom are the pilots of MacArthur Park Bench. Chris and Gary pilot Yorkshire Scout.
"Why would you want that?" was the most "two bodies, one brain" moment I've ever witnessed.
I love this episode. The energy is so good, you all seem to be having fun, Technical Difficulties at their best
Why would you want that?
Why would you want that?
Why would you want that?
WWhhyy wwoouulldd yyoouu wwaanntt tthhaatt??
Why would you want that?
Very very frightening!
I laughed on that sooo hard 😂😂😂
"make slippery, not war"
matt gray president of the usa
One of you audience members had better have been illegally recording this, because I want to know what the heck they were saying about orgone energy!
Same! Maybe if we can get enough people we can make them release it.
Yes!
Look it up on wikipedia.
You get a surprised Gungan in a slightly open glass container. An ajar Jarjar in an ajar jar.
Can you use jarred for surprised?
@@cj-gw5fd it could be angry surprise
Does the jar also contain needlefish from Madhya Pradesh in algae jelly? An Agar gar in agar in the ajar ajar Jarjar jar?
Jar jar's ajar jar jar jar now available for PS1
So agar agar jarjar jar?
6:03 - This guy doing the *jocular raising of imaginary glasses* while wearing glasses really tickled me!
I've just discovered this series, years and years late, and it's totally brilliant!
beware, Gary is clearly the monster from "Midnight" in Doctor Who
THROW HIM OUT
OH MY GOD 😂
4:32 I know I can't prove it, but i did the "very very frightening me" an instant before they did.
I'm proud of myself
i wish i had neon signs hidden in my pants. legend
Play book worm
Hey don't I know you from dunkey, nice work on that bookworm video bro, didn't realise you were a brit.
STREAM AGAIN PAPA
When Tom had to check if _Purple Rain_ is about cloud seeding, I nearly passed out from laughing.
Turns out Gary Brannan is really good at singing, impressive!
He's shown off that particular talent several times before ;)
He sang the solo in "My Mummy is One in a Million" when he was in the scouts. And he played Wackford Squeers in Smike.
9:30 and 10:10 Iodine is purple, but lead(II) iodide is in fact yellow.
So definitely don't eat yellow snow then...
I think the fact that eating yellow snow is already widely know as a bad idea.
Yellow rain, yellow rain
I only wanted to see you
Bathing in the yellow rain.
Changes the meaning quite a lot, doesn't it?
Its a golden shower!
@@louisswanepoel1614 OH GOD I AM THE AMERICAN DREAM
1:43 "Why would you want that?"
4:26 "Oh, very very frightening."
Holy christ I love this show so much. Just introduced some friends to it and now we are obsessing over this utter masterpiece of a show. Fantastic.
'IS IT A METEOROLOGICAL EVENT?!?!?!' dumbledore asked calmly
Everyone of those makes me happy and sad. It makes my day when new one goes up, and sad to know we are closer to the end.
10:58 Theeey say of the Acropolis...
Where the Parthenon is.
Where the Parthenon is!
🎵theeeeey say of the Acropolis where the parthenon is🎵
Whadda they say? Whadda they say?!
That there are no straight lines!
This has to be one of the best episodes you’ve ever recorded.
I would love a full 8 seasons of this but every episode is the full 40min uncut taking in all its glory
I totally predicted the "very very frightening" thing >:)
Probably one of the best ones yet though, well done guys!
10:14 - The B-side of the Pop Will Eat Itself single 'Love Missile F1-11' (a shambolic, though brilliant cover of the Sigue Sigue Sputnik hit), is entitled: 'Orgone Accumulator', which was another batshit mental pile of bollocks invented by Wilhelm Reich. And the Lockheed P3 Orion is not a dull aircraft. It's a long range maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. And they carry lots of gear to twat enemy submarines with.
Yaay! Another PWEI fan!
They are doing a 'This is This' album tour next year!!!
im sorry but "STOP THAT, IM CAMPING" made me cry-laugh
Okay... I’m gonna need someone to explain Matt’s intro joke...
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It's a reference to the song 'Ebeneezer Goode', best known for its chorus "'Eezer Goode, 'Eezer Goode / He's Ebeneezer Goode", which was released by The Shamen.
And yes, I did have to look that up.
"Ebeneezer Goode" by The Shamen.
I think... there was a song by a British Band called "The Shamen" and they had a song called "Ebenezer Goode" which cause some controversy as the chorus was full of the phrase "E's are good" (As in the party drug Ecstasy) -
Probably wrong though.
+@@JorWat25 Ah, thank you.
Please can this never stop, absolutely the best series on TH-cam.
plumb plum plumbum bum sounds like a football chant or something
This was possibly the greatest episode. Gonna miss this format!
This always comes out right when i get off work.
And it's amazing!
Same here!
The treaty mentioned was only to prevent the use of weather control in warfare. The US has used it extensively for crop production during drought, and the Chinese used it before the Beijing Olympics to prevent rain during the opening ceremonies. Both used silver iodide.
It's used all over the world really.
If it weren't for repeated viewings of Todd in the Shadows' episode on the band EMF and the closed captioning on this video, I would never have gotten Matt Gray's opening gag.
*single polite golf clap*
Took me months until I used subtitles to tell that this mentioned my homeland of Laos! Also Tom, it is pronounced LAO not LOUSE.
You guys in stereo is the best thing that has happened to my ears since Dark Side of the Moon. That was amazeballs.
Whoever subtitled this... thank you.
Tom has all the Citation Needed videos professionally transcribed. Thank him.
You got it all wrong there.
Actually, "Hail Cannon!" was the customary greeting in German artillery units during World War II.
(I'll get my coat.)
I thought it was an old fashioned way of greeting a member of a cathedral chapter
@@davimurph
I believe that would have been "Hail Canon", but I really like the way you think. :-)
@@drops2cents260 of course it's a different spelling! 🤦♂️
*100% SYNC*
*VERY VERY FRIGHTENING*
Definitely want that.
This episode was great, this season has just got better and better
*For Stereo:-*
*
1:50
4:28
*
Extra stereo:
4:00
11:00
1:50 When you've obviously spent way too much time with a person and both of you end up being an Organic Stereo system 😂
I'd like to add: the number of citations after the word "pseudoscientific" in the article for orgone has increased to 9
edit: as of 2023, there's only 1 citation linked after the word now, but the citation itself is a list of all the citations for it, which is now eight of them.
Dang it you beat me to it
Never thought I would hear a Kate Bush Running Up That Hill reference 4 years before Stranger Things.... This is incredible, thank you.
It was an actual hit song back in the day in Britain.
Please never stop citation needed!
**cough**
A quick thing to note. It is unkown if the test done over Laos yelded positive results.
I gotta say I'm still a little surprised that the line "in which case I am less interested" didn't get a **huge** laugh.
i love citation needed so so so much. since this season started ive been living and breathing all the old eps while i wait for a new one to come out
This very quickly became my second favorite citation needed episode ever
I recall someone once saying "There are no lowercase letters in BRIAN BLESSED!!"
Mildly disappointed that Chris didn't complete the trifecta with "Did they lob prolific silent film star Buster Keaton up into the clouds?"
I want to live in the alternate universe where Prince's Purple Rain is about cloud seeding in Laos.
*_Why would you want that?_*
*_Why would you want that?_*
AMAZING
*_Very very frightning!_*
I come back just for the stereo moments and the Eezer Goode joke. God I love this show!
This may be about a strange esoteric method of spirit healing that I have never heard of before, but I think the most baffling part about this is that Prince thinks water is blue. Like, I guess you could consider it a symbolic mixing of colour, water associated with blue and blood associated with red, makes the associated colour purple. It's just strange to me.
Tom, you're a great host but after seeing you on Only Connect I'd like to see you compete as well! Maybe the next series you guys do?
I think Tom did compete in one episode a few years ago. If I remember rightly, Matt was quizmaster.
@@peter_smyth Oh yeah! It was the predecessor to this, the Tech Diff podcast. And I think the consensus was that Tom is better at hosting these things than the others, by a wide margin. It was a bit chaotic.
As someone who, until last year, had lived in Houston, Tx her whole life (and thus living through 9 named storms passing over, including Harvey taking half my belongings with it) AND whose father worked for Lockheed for decades, all I needed was "Project Stormfury" to think "project to seed hurricanes in the hopes of preventing them, eventually became the department in which NOAA *still* uses two customized P-3s from the 70s to forecast and monitor hurricanes by flying through them to directly measure top windspeed and vectors"
Complementing TechDif: On Ice, TechDif: In Stereo! (Special Edition)
And TechDif: On Air!
And also TechDif: live from a strip club
don't forget TechDif: On Hovercraft
Project Storm Fury is actually how we came to understand eyewall replacement cycles and how storms form and strengthen.