Fasting for Cancer: What About Cachexia?

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  • @NutritionFactsOrg
    @NutritionFactsOrg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All of our videos on fasting can be found on this topic page (nutritionfacts.org/topics/fasting), or in the recordings of the fasting webinar series (drgreger.org/collections/videos/products/fasting-bundle-digital)

  • @pmw3839
    @pmw3839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    In short: listen to your body. Do what feels good. When you have lost your appetite, don’t eat. Urging people to eat something, when they are ill, and don’t want to, is not helpful. I sometimes suspect the same is true about urging people to drink more water. Maybe we should just drink when we’re thirsty, and eat when we’re hungry.

  • @johntanaka131
    @johntanaka131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Carnivore team and herbivore team are finally have something in common. They agree about fasting 🤣

    • @SureFeelsGood
      @SureFeelsGood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe Dr. Greger did a video a while ago on fasting and showed that a vegan diet mimics the benefits of fasting

    • @lucianowillemse8244
      @lucianowillemse8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SureFeelsGood Low protein diets and ketogenic diets are also fast mimicking.

  • @YD-uq5fi
    @YD-uq5fi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I glad that Dr. Greger is finally coming around the the importance of fasting for cancer inhibition/obstruction. He was the only major TH-cam alternative health Doc who didn't put fasting front and center as a tool against cancer until now.

  • @DesArtandInk
    @DesArtandInk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    YES IM SO GLAD HE'S FINALLY COVERING THIS!!!!! Thank you Doctor!!!

  • @maxgluteus4263
    @maxgluteus4263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like it because it contains not one but numerous clinical trials.

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hospitals and schools should be places where good nutrition is taught and provided .
    It is crazy the hospitals are feeding people the very food that caused the heart disease, high blood pressure or cancer that they are treating. Every person in the hospital should receive some nutrition education before being released. Every doctor visit should be an opportunity to educate patients about how food choices impacts their health outcomes. The fact that doctors do not get nutrition training as part of their training makes no sense. Medicare and Medicaid should require nutrition education as part of patient care.

    • @firecloud77
      @firecloud77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nutritional training is contraindicated if the objective is to make a living off of a large patient base. It would be like an illegal drug dealer advising his customers to check in at a drug rehabilitation center.

    • @ddpwe5269
      @ddpwe5269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'd think they'd look at their Hippocratic Oath they took to do no harm, because they're literally killing people off by the millions. Doctor's are taught how to keep you coming back, not how to fix you so you never have to come back.

    • @DesArtandInk
      @DesArtandInk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And guess who's providing the sugar slop IV.... Nestle of course.

  • @AndrewPawley11
    @AndrewPawley11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a truly extraordinary talk. I learn things beyond my wildest imagination on this site.

  • @truthbetold6496
    @truthbetold6496 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 51 and gained so much weight during the last few years i train lift weights etc, i started fasting 2 weeks ago again and now switching to keto i feel so much better and yes my appetite is gone. Thank you doctor for covering this topic as well.

  • @leftyfourguns
    @leftyfourguns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The losing appetite as part of a body's defense mechanism. It makes total sense but I never thought of it that way.

    • @reinerschafer1708
      @reinerschafer1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What do other mammals do when they get sick or injured? They find a quiet, safe place and do...nothing, including not eating. It's how mammals heal. Humans tend to forget that we are animals.

    • @morganchristmas6299
      @morganchristmas6299 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@reinerschafer1708❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @littlevoice_11
    @littlevoice_11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The nutritional supplement drinks such as Ensure contain known carcinogenic ingredients and a macro ratio known to increase the risk of metabolic diseases, diabetes and cancer.
    Feeding this to patients who are not partaking in hospital food seems almost negligent.
    They feed the most sick and vulnerable people with harmful processed food or supplement drinks high in sugar, hydrogenated fat, additives, artificial colours and more.

    • @trevorregay9283
      @trevorregay9283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes, this is absurd.....this Ensure and other garbage should be the LAST thing a cancer patient puts into their body...actually, it should not be put in anyone's body......

    • @littlevoice_11
      @littlevoice_11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@trevorregay9283 I was forced to have it in hospital and the consultant said it was a shame as it would turn me diabetic due to thr huge blood glucose spikes I experienced after consumption. BUT the consultant said Ensure was all they were allowed to prescribe and supply.
      Once diabetic, they said they would prescribe insulin to "help".

    • @trevorregay9283
      @trevorregay9283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@littlevoice_11 my father passed from melanoma and they had him drinking this stuff to help him maintain his weight.....I can't help to think it simply hastened his passing sadly.........

    • @elizabethonstage
      @elizabethonstage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have been put on TPN purely of sugar, with no protein or carb ratios for 4 months. I got so ill. So they decided to put me on Boost and Ensure and I got even worse. I forced them to stop and I started eating a Whole Foods Plant based diet and my health reversed exponentially. I saved my own life. I still had my serious medical issues, but what the doctors were doing to “treat me” was actually killing me. Blows me away…. 💔 I lost so many years due to medical negligence.

    • @littlevoice_11
      @littlevoice_11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elizabethonstage I hope you are feeling better now,

  • @VeganHiker
    @VeganHiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At one point I couldn't swallow for weeks. It got so bad I couldn't even drink water. It turned out to be cancer. So I had been unintentionally fasting before my cancer diagnosis. Then I got my first dose of chemo. I ended up in the hospital for 10 days at which point I was put on TPN. I think it was the lack of nutrition in combination with the chemo that put me in the hospital. I was also severely dehydrated. When the tumor had shrunk enough that I could swallow, I began eating and was taken off of the TPN. A year and a half later, I'm in a stable condition and I do wonder about the benefits of fasting for my situation.

  • @gbubemia
    @gbubemia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Big Pharma will not like this video because fasting will take valuable "lifelong customers" away from them🤣

  • @geomancer6371
    @geomancer6371 ปีที่แล้ว

    Though I do not always agree with Dr. Greger in terms of where a body should get nutrition, I am totally on board with him on fasting vs cancer.

  • @happycook6737
    @happycook6737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks! Very timely.

  • @elizabethonstage
    @elizabethonstage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All I will say is that I was put on TPN and got so much sicker afterward- It did not improve my nutritional status, and the doctors neglected to address the actual medical issues at hand- thinking that just addressing the weight would be the solution ! 😢

    • @catecurl3790
      @catecurl3790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right?! Oversimplification I know, but it's like putting super expensive oil in your car because your throttle's jammed!

    • @elizabethonstage
      @elizabethonstage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@catecurl3790 most definitely. No point in filling a car with the best gas/oil if the mechanics are broken. You can’t expect a car to run if it’s parts are broken and you are not addressing it . It’s like putting air into a tire thinking that it will fix the broken engine🙏🏻♥️

  • @guruhabits
    @guruhabits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your work, Dr. Greger. Always uplifting and motivating.

  • @catecurl3790
    @catecurl3790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my PROVERBIAL!! What a cliff-hanger!!. . . Dr Michael Greger, you're killing me 🤯😂

  • @tymagpoc6849
    @tymagpoc6849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is it okay to fast for Diabetic people?

  • @savvastdietitian
    @savvastdietitian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks. A very informative video.

  • @NoLimitsNatty
    @NoLimitsNatty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all the information. 👍🏽🙏🏽

  • @dexter073
    @dexter073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video!. One question: What about the opposite? Cravings. Is that just the brain wanting stimulation?

  • @socrates_the_great6209
    @socrates_the_great6209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Put it to the test.

  • @angelamallred
    @angelamallred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such great information.

  • @thyrafranchak2312
    @thyrafranchak2312 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t find the follow up to this video. The “put it to these test” video. Where can I find it?

  • @QuantumOverlord
    @QuantumOverlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What would your opinion be about nutrition during a COVID infection?

    • @faithmathison5432
      @faithmathison5432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm wondering that too, though I doubt there's any studies on it yet. I was not hungry at all while I had Covid and pretty much just ate 1 bowl of plain oats per day for a week. I recovered without serious symptoms but it was still rough.

  • @jessicamilano7845
    @jessicamilano7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any helpful information on diet/nutrition when it comes to the Ehlers-Danlos syndromes? I’m really worried about a family member.

  • @VeganTrove
    @VeganTrove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A little bit of speciesism there Dr. Greger. It's not OK to do that to sentient mice

  • @LukeSchoen
    @LukeSchoen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Food doesn't heal the body -- The body heals itself.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Body can't heal itself without nutritious foods.

    • @thaddeuswalker2728
      @thaddeuswalker2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@larryc1616 good thing the body stores nutrition. Perhaps some nutrition is less necessary when you are not eating so the body doesn't store that. This assertion is something that you would want to put to the test.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thaddeuswalker2728 we can do a randomized study of stage 3 cancer patients. Half gets nutritious foods and half fast. who lives and who dies in a spreadsheet as a percentage can tell us the truth.

    • @thaddeuswalker2728
      @thaddeuswalker2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@larryc1616 also defining nutritious food would be important because people won't be satisfied but at least you can put it up against the next competitor. It almost sounds like we are expecting something similar in the next video.

    • @xmonikerhotmailcom
      @xmonikerhotmailcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@larryc1616 A study like that would never be conducted as it is immoral.

  • @aussiedadreviews
    @aussiedadreviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Liked 👍🏼 before I listened 🇦🇺

  • @nosoftspot9915
    @nosoftspot9915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, hope all is well, I have glaucoma and I'm on a topical carbonic anhydrase inhibitor/beta blocker eye drop, which is triggering systemic autoimmune issues, no matter how healthy I'm eating or fasting. Any suggestions? Thank in advance

    • @levity90
      @levity90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps you need to cut certain things from your diet that is causing an immune response

  • @xamomax
    @xamomax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This whole, "which we will explore, next..." thing is insanely irritating, at least on the TH-cam app, where the "next" video is some other random video.

  • @nicolascarrez3409
    @nicolascarrez3409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Results on mice study are crazy

    • @Deffine
      @Deffine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dry fasting studies in mouse has been known a long time to prevent disease and death from serious carcinogens.

  • @Michelleamicheal
    @Michelleamicheal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Further validation for promoting autophagy

  • @jarrodhockley
    @jarrodhockley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    on a slight tangent, dead bacteria or infected cells and viri are nutrients to some extent so they can be eaten as well its like i dont need food that also feeds the bad guys, but i can eat some of the bad guys and my fat reserves..... it stacks the fight in your favor when the enemy is also food and there starving...

  • @tnijoo5109
    @tnijoo5109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These cliffhangers!!! Why??!!!!! 😭😭😭😭

  • @naftalibendavid
    @naftalibendavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whew! An ounce of prevention…

  • @hynjus001
    @hynjus001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh no the cliffhanger :(

  • @reinerschafer1708
    @reinerschafer1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not often I agree with Dr. Greger.

  • @androz38
    @androz38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @smudge8882
    @smudge8882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder if getting those calories from whole plant foods would be beneficial. In the case where they tried 4,000 calories but it wasn't enough, I wonder if 4,000 calories of unprocessed plants would do the trick?

  • @mariamattioli4751
    @mariamattioli4751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the Coffee Blog today, is the barley coffee substitute okay? Or does it have acrylamide?

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nutritional training is contraindicated if the objective is to make a living off of a large patient base. It would be like an illegal drug dealer advising his customers to check in at a drug rehabilitation center.

  • @jeanneamato8278
    @jeanneamato8278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the cancer patients didn’t do well by getting more ‘nutrition’ maybe it was the nutrition they were getting that was sub par.

  • @AnonymousanonymousA
    @AnonymousanonymousA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fasting helps stop supplying biofilm with sugar, protein, fibrin, and calcium making tumors more vulnerable?

    • @AnonymousanonymousA
      @AnonymousanonymousA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and stopping other minerals? But at the same time limiting nutrition of the host?

    • @thaddeuswalker2728
      @thaddeuswalker2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnonymousanonymousA perhaps you should see if he has anything on biofilm. I don't recall him bringing up the word.

  • @Ded-Ede
    @Ded-Ede 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about fasting mimicking diet?

  • @wanashthegash
    @wanashthegash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what those 800 calories should consist of, probably just some vegetables and berries

  • @leticiacompartilha
    @leticiacompartilha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amei

  • @sirgio777
    @sirgio777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should cancer patients eat fruits? Sugar concerns

    • @AnonymousanonymousA
      @AnonymousanonymousA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh read my comment, I swear I have the best comments right out there in plain sight and get no acknowledgement

    • @AnonymousanonymousA
      @AnonymousanonymousA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is cancer? What is a tumor? In many cases they are allegedly biofilm from pathogens? Pathogens like sugar in some cases protein or carbohydrates or fat or possibly all the aforementioned depending on the pathogen (ofcourse that can change especially with ineffective antimicrobial progressions), they also absorb minerals like calcium and iron etc. Think soldiers in a castle. Now they put a hostile settlement on your territory, hope this is helping, usually in war there are multi pronged attacks just 1 weapon or cutting off supply chains will NOT do it especially as many pathogens can outlive humans in extreme conditions especially in biofilms (mucus etc). Bruh I just gave u the best 4 min bio class ever

    • @danielborne4988
      @danielborne4988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnonymousanonymousA Not a bad idea to “gift” the castle a Trojan horse: baking soda.

  • @tnijoo5109
    @tnijoo5109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doesn’t bode well for medical marijuana for increasing apatite in cancer patients… good thing there’s other uses for it.

  • @radaivanova8563
    @radaivanova8563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Благодаря

  • @kramerhollenbach7191
    @kramerhollenbach7191 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are great videos with lots of knowledge but DAMN I cannot stand the way he talks. Its like he's struggling to spit out every sentence. Spit it out, no need to dramaticize everything you say.

  • @gluttonykills
    @gluttonykills 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here he goes again. Whipping out articles & highlighting them so they contradict eachother. Sure loves to highlight. Reminds me of my sisters 12 yo doin her homework.

    • @lilith7706
      @lilith7706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't catch it here. Which part was it?

    • @ddpwe5269
      @ddpwe5269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bot's gonna bot.