The Legend of the HP Palmtop Computer

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  • The HP 200LX is an MS-DOS Computer the size of a phone, from 1994. This machine has achieved legendary status as a highly capable handheld computer. That greatly enhanced portable business applications in the 1990s. The result is a dedicated fan base of enthusiasts that continues in the vintage tech scene today.
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  • @Vatican4ss4ssin
    @Vatican4ss4ssin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Not sure how you got Star Trek Generations playing on that thing, but I'm glad you did haha. Very appropriate.

    • @belperite
      @belperite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Astrometrics lab scene?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep, Generations!

    • @user-xo4om9nu8c
      @user-xo4om9nu8c 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      scam scammers scams hp japan made riccho

  • @deBaer
    @deBaer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    In the second half of the 90s, the 200LX was my main machine. I always had it (and a big PCMCIA flash drive) with me, read and wrote 1000s of emails and Usenet posts on it, traded megabytes worth of files on BBSs and all that good stuff. I think it was the most important computer I ever had.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Nice, I really enjoy hearing how much of an impact this had.

    • @user-zm2pv2zq7j
      @user-zm2pv2zq7j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      japan made nec

    • @marcbarilla5584
      @marcbarilla5584 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still have one. This is really a wonderful piece of technology 😊

    • @seththebeatmxchine
      @seththebeatmxchine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder what it would have been like to bop around with this thing back in the day

    • @georgeyreynolds
      @georgeyreynolds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How did you connect to BBS?

  • @graealex
    @graealex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I was so obsessed with mobile computers back then. The first were personal digital assistant devices my grandfather didn't use anymore. When I had my own money, I got a Palm, an iPaq and later a Pocket LOOX, and a Samsung PDA/smart device.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ooh, some nice machines you had there.

    • @1blisslife
      @1blisslife 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These and even some of the Windows CE Machines are great in their own regard. 😊

    • @graealex
      @graealex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@1blisslife I loved the Windows CE stuff. Even after the iPhone came out, I still laughed because the Apple users neither had Exchange syncing, nor copy-and-paste. Obviously that's all stuff from past.

  • @nctangman
    @nctangman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oh this makes me so happy to watch. Can't tell you how many hours I spent working with my 200. I also had the 95LX first! Incredible machine. I had a bootable PCMCIA card and ran an accounting software on it. It went everywhere I went for a long time. I wish I had it back.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice, this must have been an awesome experience to have these.

  • @BurritoVampire
    @BurritoVampire 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Star Trek: Generations! Even text based I would recognize that beautiful ship anywhere!
    EDIT: For bonus points, its the scene in stellar cartography right before they warp to Veridian III.
    I'm going to go get a life now!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If you could see that in the text based video then we’ll done!

    • @Dystopikachu
      @Dystopikachu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The silhouette of Patrick Stewart was a clear giveaway, the shining baldness plus the Starfleet uniform is just too iconic to forget. I'm super impressed you were able to point to the exact scene, that is way beyond my level.

    • @Linuxpunk81
      @Linuxpunk81 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I knew right away from the two color uniforms, then the ship brought it home. Sir Patrick's aura shines through even if it's only text based graphics 😂🖖

    • @Linuxpunk81
      @Linuxpunk81 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know it gets a bad rap but it's still one of my favorite trek movies 😂I remember seeing it in theaters when I was 13 so that might have something to do with it

    • @johnq4951
      @johnq4951 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep recognised it instantly too😂

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Not sure why but I just love when it's possible to get something to work through two or more layers of adapters, it's the visual of the nested nonsense that works regardless, seeing that old tiny PC reading a micro SD thanks to three different adapters brought a smile to my face :)

    • @adameichler
      @adameichler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well that reminds me of my iPod Video. I wanted to replace its dying harddrive. It is storage is a 32 GB microSDHC in several adapters: microSD->SD>CF->IDE. Works like a charm :D

    • @imstupidbut
      @imstupidbut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      it’s like me using a usb c to a cable, then an sd adapter, then a micro sd adapater

    • @teamredstudio7012
      @teamredstudio7012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      When you're an Apple fanboy this happens daily. You can charge your iPhone 15 from firewire using a firewire to 30 pin, then 30 pin to lightning, then lightning to usb c adapter.

    • @mark030a
      @mark030a 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There is no such thing as not compatible! *Sometimes it just takes a tower of adapters*

    • @user-zm2pv2zq7j
      @user-zm2pv2zq7j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      japan made nec

  • @rationaly_involed
    @rationaly_involed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    it is quite empressive how such a small device is able to play back from the future and star trek

  • @ironlion45
    @ironlion45 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Glad you mentioned the n900. IMO, one of the most capable mobile devices ever made for its time, bar none. It could even run a full debian linux GUI.

  • @JoCaTen
    @JoCaTen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    90s technology really is fascinating
    How some companies made devices we never thought they did, devices that are similar to our current tech and yet so different in terms of specs and functionality or similar and predating current things.

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I owned a 95LX in the 1990's, and used it in math/engineering college classes with Derive symbolic calculus software on a PCMCIA care, now owned by TI and in their fancy calculators all these years later. It was a neat machine and batteries lasted a long time. I had a SCSI adapter and also a little printer. Eventually while in college I stepped up to a Dell Dimension XPS 90 tower system, which was a major improvement. I think I still have the HP somewhere. Cool video. Brings back memories.

    • @xTHETRINCHOx
      @xTHETRINCHOx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It might sound desperate, and that's because I am... I believe you're the only living person I know who knows about DERIVE. I've been searching for it for years for my HP 95LX since it's my everyday computer. I can't get hold of any copy of those files from that version, nor can I buy or locate a PCMCIA like the one you mentioned. I earnestly implore you that if you have it, please contact me so I can purchase it from you because, as I mentioned, I'm desperate to obtain it. Thank you so much in advance.

    • @boydpukalo8980
      @boydpukalo8980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can only recommend getting a PCMCIA memory card and putting the Derive for DOS files on it. I have never seen it show up on ebay, let alone the windows version of it (5) which I never did buy, only 4.0 but that was buggy. Good luck.

    • @xTHETRINCHOx
      @xTHETRINCHOx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you have does files? Cant get It on web. I have 32mb sundisk pcmcia But no derive. THX btw

  • @Shotblur
    @Shotblur 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thanks for doing the captions! They're of very high quality and I'm sure many people like myself also appreciate them.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm very pleased you find them useful.

    • @drhabber
      @drhabber 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycle Extra useful!

  • @Devo_gx
    @Devo_gx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember being handed one of these during a computer & technology-focused summer camp as a kid. I was absolutely blown away by the little device! When they said "Palmtop" I didn't think such a thing was possible outside of your cheap pocket organizers.

  • @puls44
    @puls44 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    90s stuff is so hardware amazing and ahead of its time that it still fascinates me and I'm always happy when i nab a cool piece of 90s tech!
    I still have a newer Jornada 720 w a color screen but it's not in a good shape, still want another working one and also a Psion 5mx those things were amazing, I regret selling mine 20yrs ago.
    Nice video!

  • @johnprouty6583
    @johnprouty6583 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I was working for one of HP’s instrument divisions when these came out. I ended up using these to interface to mechanical measurement devices and network analyzers to run statistical process control software we wrote. We also worked on some CNC projects to assist manufacturing with assembly tasks. It was an incredibly capable device that could punch well above its weight. The various HIL peripherals made it possible to interface with a lot of external devices.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love hearing how these were being used at HP, thanks for sharing.

  • @michaelheathcote9488
    @michaelheathcote9488 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had the HP95LX and was awesome as a design engineer writing my own solver equations. Later I had the Toshiba Libretto, and ran the companion pack HP software so I could still use all my solver equations.
    I also bought the Rex too!

  • @Benedict-01
    @Benedict-01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Couldn't believe my eyes seeing the whole PCMCIA Card fitted inside the device! This makes the size of this device even more astonishing!

  • @emabuono9992
    @emabuono9992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your channel, presenting somewhat obscure devices, especially for my age, and very soothing calming voice to present. Nice video this one. Cheers.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you :)

  • @Colt45hatchback
    @Colt45hatchback 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wish someone would make something like this nowdays, surely a full high end 486 dx2 100 with a bunch of cache 16mb ram (maybe 32?) Sound blaster and such can be made small enough to fit and work well, real good screen from a modern phone, but the same form factor and actual real usesable keyboard, perhaps with a thinkpad nub style mouse in it and a pair of micro sd card slots, usb type a, and of course a gameport. It would be great to be able to windows 95 in my pocket. I had always hoped i could one day mod my nokia n97 to run a different os, but i dont have the patience to learn to code, let alone port a bunch of software to it.

  • @stevenirby5576
    @stevenirby5576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was a kid, I saw one at a store. I wanted one so badly! I begged my parents for one. They laughed and said yeah, right. I vowed to one day have such a device.
    I had blackberries. The first Android phone. An iPhone in my pocket right now. :-)

  • @Zetaplus117
    @Zetaplus117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had one of these (HP200LX) back in the day. Carried it around and the battery can last a long time. I had several ebooks on it. Ran spreadsheets on it, wrote notes and so on. Even had a infrared port. Very capably device for its time.

  • @teerapatadullayathum8713
    @teerapatadullayathum8713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love to see this video because it make me feel like I sat in Delorean and bring me back in the time that I was young. Technology in 90s were always so cool, exciting and fascinating moment.....
    I growing up with 286...386...486...pentium 4...
    or monochrome....cga/ega...vga...svga....
    or super famicom/ gameboy...play 1/wii...
    or VHS/laser disc...vcd...dvd...bluray...streaming
    or Symbion phone...pocketPC phone...smartphone (iOS/Android)
    ....It's extraordinary experience to see everything around us changed step-by-step during we 're growing up 😉😉😉

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There did seem to be a rush of new technologies as digital rapidly kept advancing at the time.

    • @teerapatadullayathum8713
      @teerapatadullayathum8713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I exactly agree with you especially during 1990s to early 2000s...

  • @team_alt_und_blind
    @team_alt_und_blind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My father owned a 200LX for his business back in the 90s and I wrote a software tailored for his uses and made especially for this system. These were my first steps in software development. I remember the pure feeling of freedom when running this machine, opening the whole DOS world in a pocket, and that with amazing specs for the times! And thanks for your video - it's a wholesome appreciation for this powerful device!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love your description of freedom. You have just articulated some of what I feel about this as well. Thank you.

  • @leos3003
    @leos3003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was my organizer and I used most of it's functions for a few years. Really a very helpful little computer.

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    This is one of the last products to bear the DNA from the HP-35, the first pocket scientific calculator, from 1972. HP was still innovating at that point, but the seeds of ruin had already been planted in 1987, with the introduction of the HP PaintJet. Now, HP is just a big corporate cash grab.

    • @Magpie1701
      @Magpie1701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is a shame what became of such a once innovative company

    • @prakashm1468
      @prakashm1468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perhaps they employed Steve Balmer after the first success. Just like MS did with Windows 8.

    • @Winter-zv1dv
      @Winter-zv1dv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Replace “HP” with “The World”

    • @KenTheSteak
      @KenTheSteak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You wanna buy some toner?

    • @BomberBlur07
      @BomberBlur07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What did the PaintJet do?

  • @hotrodmercury3941
    @hotrodmercury3941 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So my mom actually had one of these, well both my parents before they upgraded. They bought it used for a okay price back then, it was in color and she used it for invoices and accounting. The both of them were making a shit ton of cash in the mid 90s-early 00s through their construction business. They would use laptops and stuff, but would use these when they didnt want to lug around a laptop. I always tried to get either this or the PDA from my dads truck to "play" on.
    Meetings, customer info, invoices, material invoices, manifests, phone numbers, equipment info, equipment insurance, emails, the whole lot was on those things. My mom eventually got rid of it in a yard sale around 2006? Just before the crash was on the horizon. She sold a lot of her business computers for like $30 when in reality she couldve netted around $200 or more each. She still has the mentality that if she tries to sell a PC or whatever that no one will want it and will sell it for god awful cheap.
    (I being a very young child fondly remember playing on it with note pad and stuff. Just typing gibberish or playing with a calculator function lmao)

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great memories, thanks for sharing. Tech has a cycle where prices keep falling for about ten years. It's hard to keep it around because it just seems to be taking up space. Then begins rising again after 15 - 20 years and become intriguing again. But in a different way.

  • @jamesmccombe6269
    @jamesmccombe6269 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks! Love your well researched and understated presentations

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are awesome! thank you. This will help make even better videos :)

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCyclelike videos about the fujitsu f-07c

  • @electrohoard
    @electrohoard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video! I’ve had several HP Palmtops in the past and love them so much that I even started making videos about them recently. Its great to see people are still interested in such devices like I am.😊

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey, I was recommended you channel recently. Great stuff! keep it up.

    • @electrohoard
      @electrohoard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycle thank you for the kind words and for providing us all with such quality content!!

  • @teamredstudio7012
    @teamredstudio7012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    it would be fun to try coding assembly for these old devices to write code that's as optimised as possible and try to get some 3d graphics out of it. This tech is so fascinating, it's really fun to see a pda fit inside another pda, if one battery dies, you move on to the other.

    • @Leeki85
      @Leeki85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is just early x86 PC with very minor improvements. It isn't even fast enough to redraw full screen at acceptable FPS. You can do 3D, but using clever tricks, that minimize amount of updated pixels every frame. You could also use text mode as 80x50 display. On such small LCD screen it should still look fine and allow for quite fast polygonal 3D graphics or fast 2D with scrolling like shown in Magiduck.
      Anyway regular x86 PCs are a bit more fun to play with. You have various CRT tricks and CGA has also composite output with artificial colors that can be pushed to display up to 1024 colors on screen (as seen in 8088 MPH demo).

    • @SatanIsTheLord
      @SatanIsTheLord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Leeki85 I'd just remove all electronic, leaving just keyboard and display. Then put some modern board there. ;)

  • @zachwhite2716
    @zachwhite2716 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I made so many webpages in the lates 90s when I was supposed to be paying attention in class. I had macros for common html tags to help write them. Thanks for bringing back those memories.
    I had the 100lx, always wanted to get the 200 but as a student it was out of reach.

  • @JonGallon
    @JonGallon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    12:32 I really do appreciate that you (and some other content creators) put captions / subtitles im their videos. It helps me a lot since English is not my native language (but your accent is a joy and make understanding very easy). Also, and most importantly, this is very respectful and inclusive to those who are deaf / hard of hearing. Even some music videos from big labels nowadays are providing captions too since they can enjoy the visuals together with the lyrics.
    And lots of 'TH-camrs' does not even turn on the automatic captions in their videos. Sure, they are far from perfect but it helps a lot and most mistakes are easy to guess.
    So, thank you very much for the captions too. 😊

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. It's really good to know that the work I put into making correct captions is helpful and appreciated.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ooo, that outro track is an excellent cover! Interesting how they transposed the key. It made it simultaneously familiar yet strange, like going back to your home town and the roads aren’t quite as they used to be.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I really dig it.

  • @slicey80
    @slicey80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had one of these as a kid... I got it in the early 2000s from a garage sale... I wish I still had it now

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's so COOL! I always dreamed I'd find something cool like that at a garagesale as a kid

    • @slicey80
      @slicey80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MaxOakland man the amount of things I found at garage sales as a kid that today are worth so much money and are so rare... sadly 99% of it I no longer have

  • @svobodo2
    @svobodo2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I bought a second hand one in (I think) 2000 or 2001 and used it daily for about a decade. Lovely little machines. One drawback was that it was possible to lock it up so badly that even the ctrl-shift-on combo wouldn't work. Frequent backups were a good idea.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did read that it could lock up so badly that all the batteries would have to be removed for several minutes to reset. Thanks for confirming this, and that ctrl-shift-on is not necessarily a full hardware interrupt.

    • @stpworld
      @stpworld 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      some of these things could be seriously defective we tried one from a new company in the 1990s callled velo and it would work great then start randomly resetting. My parents thought it would be better for me then a full sized laptop at the time. My aunts company got these to and some of them had defective batteriest to. @@JanusCycle

    • @MadBison
      @MadBison 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used a h95lx and later a hp200lx from 1992 to around 1999 or 2000. I had software carousel installed, which swapped different apps in and out of memory. I used them for a lot of tasks, and I don't remember this hard lockup issue at all. I did get the faster chip upgrade and the memory upgrade aftermarket. I had to ship it from Australia to the USA and back to get that done! I used to read and type emails while standing on the London Underground when I worked in London. PCMCIA modem and a landline at home to do the send and receive. There was a great email list group for the HPLX. The only real issue i had was the hinge cracked, which was common, but i used the email list group to repair it and the crack is barely noticeable to today.

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:30 You magnificent bastard.
    Also, I actually recognized some of those demos going by on its tiny screen, so it was doing something right!

  • @s81n
    @s81n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss this era of computing. Although I had no access to a computer back then I would see all these great devices in magazines (the closest I could get to a computer) and fawn over them. The internet was still new to most people and utterly fascinating. I always imagined how cool it would be to have a job when I grew up where I would have these types of computers and travel all around.

  • @hakhaimo
    @hakhaimo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always being fascinated by the charm of older machines.

  • @rainboworange
    @rainboworange 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The adaptor-recursion was just perfect! Had a good laugh. Also great use of the REX card!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks!, it was fun making that bit :)

  • @leatherwiz
    @leatherwiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing to see this today. It was a dream machine for nerds in those days.

  • @kippie80
    @kippie80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Used it up until iphone2. For about 10 years. Their replacement program was awesome.

  • @correlation917
    @correlation917 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theres something beautiful about 90s tech

  • @rezaruhbani4979
    @rezaruhbani4979 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    please make more of these videos, you did a great job

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I will do my best to keep exploring tech and making these videos.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This looks like a fun device for retro computing hours even without games.
    Really reminds me of the whole era of PALM handhelds except as full blown PC.

  • @Koutsie
    @Koutsie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I don't know if you noticed but theres a very high pitched noise in your voiceover and its a bit distracting, other than that - what a lovely machine!!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I didn’t notice, thanks for mentioning it. I did use a high cut filter as usual. I’ll check and do better next time.

  • @ShuAsphalt
    @ShuAsphalt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always good to see a new video

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The film with the line "Time is the fire in which we burn" I still have my Libretto 100 with docking station. I sometimes turn it one for old times sake. I first saw one running NT4 server and being used as an emergency file server.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice line, and nice machine you have there.

  • @bradrobinson7960
    @bradrobinson7960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:31 It's the stellar cartography scene from Star Trek Generations.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct scene and film! double points award :)

  • @natet3345
    @natet3345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am so absolutely impressed with your tone of voice when you said 640K. Lol most excellent delivery better than I’ve ever heard before props to you dude

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I wasn't sure how well that would be noticed :)

  • @lakromani8172
    @lakromani8172 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do have one with manuals etc, but not used for long time. Loved this device when I worked in HP back in the 90.

  • @IraQNid
    @IraQNid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A PIM inside a Palmtop PC running full DOS. These were super cool at the time.

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Modern computers frequently do not format SD cards properly. Try formatting with a different device for formatting (e.g. a good camera, pda, etc.). And look on forums to see what SD card brands/sizes are confirmed to work with your HP 200LX (or other old device).

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had to try many cards to find the few that worked. Seems kind of random which one do.

  • @agenttexx
    @agenttexx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember this machine as our Industrial Technology teacher had one.

  • @drsmack3000
    @drsmack3000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of my teachers had one of these and I so badly wanted to play with it! thank you for reviewing it and showing the games! It's so cool what it could do for that time.

    • @user-wk7nn2hk5n
      @user-wk7nn2hk5n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      japan made sharp japan products

  • @t.p.0104
    @t.p.0104 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even the voice over sounds retro. Very nice😊

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you

  • @alexandrestolte
    @alexandrestolte 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had twice of this wonder computer in midle 90 here in Brazil, use the worksheet a lot on my business, controling production and results. Useg also with a moden on internet and e-mail!!! Just run very fast, very trustfull and very ease to use & understanding.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That must have been an amazing experience and really turned some heads! Thanks for sharing.

  • @CBitsTech
    @CBitsTech 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved the card > adapter > adapter > adapter solution.

  • @RadioChief52
    @RadioChief52 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still have my 200LX with a custom internal memory upgrade and few different expansion cards for more memory and WiFi. I even have the book that came with it. I can't throw anything away.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still have that Ark of the Covenant lying around? 😀

  • @JanusCycle
    @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Having now experienced the HP 200LX up close, I can see this is a stunning machine compared to other handhelds that were around.
    Even though it stayed mostly in the business world, this was a top shelf product from the 90s. I hope this video shows how amazing it was for it's time.
    If you owned or used one of these back then then let me know. I've heard that people loved the 200LX so much that many continued to use them well into the 2000s.
    There is also a fan base that continues to this day. Hi and welcome to you. I hope you enjoyed this take on the HP 200LX.

    • @_lun4r_
      @_lun4r_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No pinning comments, sorry.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One minor error - CGA was 320x200, not 640. So this palmtop had a higher graphics resolution than a IBM CGA monitor!
      From the first day I used one, I thought the CGA was horrible. But as it was using the US NTSC TV hardware, I understood why IBM had opted for it - it was cheap and low-risk.

    • @cpyt
      @cpyt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I wonder how windows 3.0 would run on there

    • @jaydprogamer4485
      @jaydprogamer4485 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i guess star trek is what your playing on the screen?

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@John.0z 2-bit color graphics modes are only 320x200. 1-bit monochrome graphics (as well as 80 column text) is 640x200.

  • @cmdrflint9115
    @cmdrflint9115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one of the follow ups, the HP 320lx I think, loved it at the time, gonna go digging in the attic and see if I can find it now!

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna8347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had a 200LX in the 90s since I couldn't afford a "real" laptop that cost thousands and were too clunky and huge so didn't really want one anyways. The fact you got a real x86 powered machine in a handheld size was truly unreal back then. This wasn't just some watered down chipset running a proprietary OS, but the real deal MS-DOS that had tens of thousands of software titles out for it and most non-gaming ran just fine.

  • @EeveeFromAlmia
    @EeveeFromAlmia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got an ad for a flagship windows 11 laptop before this; what a fun comparison

  • @VicGreenBitcoin
    @VicGreenBitcoin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked in a hotel as a security guard, where we used the HP on a daily basis to open room doors and open safes where people had forgotten the electronic code. Ow, and your question that`s Data and Picard!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, such a versatile little computer. Yep, Data and Picard, well done.

  • @Flying0Dismount
    @Flying0Dismount 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still have mine and it still works great...

  • @coney2010grads
    @coney2010grads 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That star trek video with 1 bit sound reminds me of watching tv on a 13 inch black and white tv in my grandparents house in the 90s.

  • @JoeSteele
    @JoeSteele 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice presentation. I especially like the Rex syncing at the end. That was a trick I always wanted to try, but never bought a Rex when they were big. I still have my HP200LX (and a 100LX too) and a bunch of add-ons. I have a 4GB Sandisk CF card that works in the HP (although partitioned into multiple disks IIRC). I have the DoubleSpeed variant with the 8MB expansion. I used it for on-the-go DOS development (mostly scripting) back in the day. You could even run AOL 1.6 on it (via the serial port) and get on the internet at one point!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice, your HP sounds really decked out (and having a 100LX as well). I was able to get a 512MB card working but slow calculating the free space under DOS. Partitioning sounds like a good idea. But 4GB? you must have many partitions. The double speed must help speed that up as well.

  • @marvinochieng6295
    @marvinochieng6295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another upload and a perfect ending to the week. Keep up the good work and pls remember never to sll out to nebula when youre big. Cheers !

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks and don't worry, I'm not a fan of paywalling videos.

  • @AndyTanguay
    @AndyTanguay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was SO cool. We were issued one at work, and were always shocked at how much it could do. Loved having it on me all the time.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It must have been amazing to carry this around with you,

    • @AndyTanguay
      @AndyTanguay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JanusCycle Honestly, it REALLY was. It's hard to describe what the PC landscape was like back then. Laptops were barely 'a thing'...and they certainly weren't small. And you know, it was honestly useful for YEARS. Just having an serial terminal with you all the time was a joy. Same thing for a spreadsheet. I hate to admit it, but I think I threw it away just maybe 10 years ago.

  • @RussianBot69420
    @RussianBot69420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these kinds of unique devices

  • @LA6NPA
    @LA6NPA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! This was fun!

  • @willjudy5623
    @willjudy5623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They were awesome. I grew up in the same city where they were produced and my friends parents worked at HP. So we had early access to them.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very cool!

  • @TheKsharm
    @TheKsharm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I can't believe I recognised star Trek generations from the first video... either I'm a huge nerd or that screen just worked

    • @Linuxpunk81
      @Linuxpunk81 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sir Stews aura shines through any medium 😂

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep, Generations!

  • @MadBison
    @MadBison 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still have my hp95lx and hp200lx, and the pocket modem and a couple of 1MB and 2MB PCMCIA cards. I used the 200lx for many years! I have installed Software Carousel. Still boot it up occasionally for nostalgia. The Solver function in the calculator was by far the best solver I have used, and wish i could replicate that functionality now.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm really glad to hear you still power yours up from time to time.

  • @c64club
    @c64club 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My fav laptop of all times. Miss this form factor and mono screen till today. I added extenal COM port, 2 megs of RAM, screen backlight... Pocket Quicken was the best personal finance manager I've ever seen.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A backlight would be an challenging to add, well done. Thanks for sharing your setup.

    • @c64club
      @c64club 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycleThe backlight setup was quite popular that times. It consisted of electroluminescent foil (like in backlit watches and oldest Palm devices) plus a simple yet small inverter. There even were some tutorials on web pages. The biggest problem was to get big enough foil. Disadvantage was that screen was a bit darker when backlight was not used. Light color was blue-greenish.

  • @brockachoo
    @brockachoo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was amazing!!!

  • @nadinabbott3991
    @nadinabbott3991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had this. I loved it
    I wrote a lot of my short fiction on it. Some was published. Also did note taking for college.

  • @cheetahfurry9107
    @cheetahfurry9107 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this sitting on my desk right now working. I just changed out the backup battery this week.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, I'm pleased to hear these are still going strong.

    • @cheetahfurry9107
      @cheetahfurry9107 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycle wondering if I can update the screen to color :) it’s fun I play old dos games on it and I was thinking of getting a huge storage card.

  • @sonic2000gr
    @sonic2000gr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember this one vividly. I also almost bought their later Windows CE based version.

    • @frstesiste7670
      @frstesiste7670 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought the later CE version, it was horrible compared to the LX200

  • @samuzamu
    @samuzamu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ooh nostalgic. Got the first of that series, the 95LX, from my grandpa, in the early noughties. Super outdated even by then, but I adored it, as a nerdy kid. Learnt a lot of my first words in english trying to understand the contents of the 1000+ page manual. Must have thrown the computer away after its hinges broke, would love to have it back.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sounds like a really cool way to learn, thanks for the story.

  • @keydelllorenzana8143
    @keydelllorenzana8143 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reminds me of my old Nokia 9110 communicator. I loved that device.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TH-cam will probably recommend my 9110 Communicator video to you as well then :)

    • @keydelllorenzana8143
      @keydelllorenzana8143 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycle yes, I already watched it although at the time I didn't realize it was from the same TH-camr 😉👍

  • @dkdndjdndjd
    @dkdndjdndjd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this device. Not any PDAs and smartphone has such a perfect keyboard and good figures to handle. Just 2 alkaline batteries work for weeks!

  • @ofey
    @ofey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used to own one of these in the late 90s (post '96). I remember Windows 3.11 could run on this and Ultima was a great game to play on it. I wish I still had mine. I sold it in the 2010s online. Watching your video brought a tear to my eye .. Oh the memories.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, good to hear from an original user. Though it was probably Windows 3.0, since I have been reading that 3.1 was not compatible. Must have been cool to have Ultima on the go.

    • @ofey
      @ofey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JanusCycle Indeed it was a gool device to have. I passed on the Palm Pilot (tablet with small pen) and kept my 200LX which had gone through the RAM upgrade to 4MB and I still have my 48MB SanDisk Compact Flash memory card in my belongings somewhere. The best part about this was that it was truly a portable PC which I could carry around with me. As a teen, I had this in a small bum bag and my skateboard and my Sony walkman. Arguably the most memorable days of my life. Having DOS and a C-compiler made my engineering student life pretty good as well. I learnt to work anywhere, I could draft reports, code and set up spreadsheets to automate calculations easily.
      The 200LX's capability at the time and its footprint was unparalleled.

  • @grumpybollox7949
    @grumpybollox7949 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    beers on me, thanks for showing us such an unique device!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's very kind of you, thank you.

    • @grumpybollox7949
      @grumpybollox7949 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      your content is so good, its a crime to watch with an adblock. the algorithm blessed me with your channel so even youtube knows whats good

  • @scotty3114
    @scotty3114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had one back in the day. Gat a modem that pluged irto the serial port, hooked that to the bag phone in my car. Thus I could access the company network. No one could figure out how I was getting my data in the system while still on the road!
    I miss that little 'puter! That was the neatest portable device ever.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great story, I love hearing this sort if thing. That must have been amazing to do that.

    • @scotty3114
      @scotty3114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JanusCycle Yes, it was, that's why no one figured it out. They didn't really twig that such things existed. I must admit I was a texter while driving, I would sit the HP on the dashboard. It was then just below my line of sight to the road. All I had to do was shift the focus of my eyes, and I didn't have to move them at all! So I could update the mainframe while zipping across the countryside. I live in the desert southwest, so it wasn't too onerous of a task. Although I wouldn't recommend it, especially nowadays, traffic is much worse than it was then. Old memories, thanks.

  • @TechGuyBeau
    @TechGuyBeau 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adaptors on adaptors on adaptors. I love that it actually worked >.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was born too late to have had any experience with PalmTops, I only started with PDAs.
    Other than that though, when I did learn of it, I was definitely impressed.

  • @JStation3
    @JStation3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    640k is all you'll ever need. A real vintage nerd

  • @grumpybollox7949
    @grumpybollox7949 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video mate I love your content

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      cool, thank you!

  • @WoodyW2k
    @WoodyW2k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fantastic. I love both those devices. I was lucky enough to get an HP 95LX back in the day from someone that upgraded to an HP 200LX. Both brilliant machines and I did quite a bit of word processing on it at the time. Thanks for sharing!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, must have been amazing to have these at the time.

    • @user-wk7nn2hk5n
      @user-wk7nn2hk5n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      japan made sharp japan products

  • @inretio
    @inretio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PDA inside PDA! Wow, amazing 👍

  • @ahmedp8009
    @ahmedp8009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love your videos.
    Please do one on the Nokia Communicator. best phone Nokia ever made in my opinion.

    • @matt.willoughby
      @matt.willoughby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 9000 wasn't great but the 9110 was getting there and 9210i was perfect. I used a 9500 until it fell apart in the mid 2010's

    • @ahmedp8009
      @ahmedp8009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@matt.willoughby I still remember the moment when I first laid my eyes on the 9210 (not sure if it was the "i"), I instantly fell in love, there was nothing like it then, and nothing like it today (except maybe Plant Computers' Cosmo and Astro).

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do agree the Communicator deserves a video one day.

  • @tweedeldee8122
    @tweedeldee8122 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you!
    Ahhh. The memories. I remember parking the HD my buddies $2500 8088. He never wanted to let me inside the thing. That looks like a newer version of a Poqet PC I've still got that a different buddy gave me. It has the CMOS version of the 8088, a 80C88 running at 7MHZ, 64 KB SRAM. Also 640 x 200. Running DOS 3.3. Runs on two AA's. Got the book and mobidem wireless modem too, with spare battery and charger. lol

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Poqet PC looks amazing, another PC I didn't know about. Thanks!

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Rex HP combo reminds me of the Seiko watch you could put upon a docking station for information swaps and/or text input.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That Seiko watch is cool. I'd love to try it.

  • @old_liquid
    @old_liquid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Production values is off the charts

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cool, thank you!

  • @RobertFoxL
    @RobertFoxL 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still got mine 👍🏻 Those were the days 😁

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool! and I hope you never part with it.

  • @mylesl2890
    @mylesl2890 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i still have have mine. it's cool!!

  • @graxxor
    @graxxor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had an Atari Portfolio, a Sharp PC3000 and a HP 200LX... loved me some handhelds back in the day.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really nice set of devices you had here. The Sharp PC300 looks amazing. Another white whale that I wish I had.

  • @tictac-nscale
    @tictac-nscale 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive always wanted one of those.

  • @erik3371
    @erik3371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually have this! And it still works! Keep it at the office to show people haha, got it from my father when I was a kid and he didn't want it...

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad you kept this and even more so that you show it off. Great stuff!

  • @martinlagrange8821
    @martinlagrange8821 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got one - and its going strong even now....and seeing Star Trek : The Next Generation playing in video, is quite impressive.

  • @ScottHenion
    @ScottHenion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had one of those back in the day. The 80186 includes much of the support chips needed for the 8086. However, its integrated interrupt controller is different than that the 8086 PC's. So games using interrupts bay crash. I think some of the Tandy PCs had the same issue.
    Did a lot of design using the 80186. Real nice to use in embedded systems as that is what it was designed for.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, you sound very familiar indeed with the 80186. Interesting detail on the 80186 interrupts, thank you.

  • @Stefan-
    @Stefan- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its crazy how it can fit the whole PCMCIA card inside that small computer especially for its time, one would think that it would be absolutely filled with electronics and then you put that comparatively huge card inside it. I was born in the early 70´s and i would have been well into my 20´s when this came out, i worked repairing cell phones in the 90´s at an authorized service center for Nokia and i remember the Nokia 9000 communicator which came in sometimes, it was in reality one of the first smartphones.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great perspective, thank you. The Communicator is another interesting device that I need to try out.