Uncontrolled immigration hurts the working class, and makes the poor poorer (after all they are the ones footing the bulk of the bill, as well as having to live on the front line of "integration"). It also puts extra strain on all social systems (the bulk of which are also paid by the poor and working class), not just the NHS. This Rwanda plan will no doubt be expensive and ineffectual (and therefore pointless) but we certainly need a plan of some kind.
Need to stop the illegal/low skilled legal immigrants coming in and deporting them to do so, rent prices would lower, property prices would depreciate, NHS would have more space and waiting times would drop, schools would have smaller classes and there’d be more teachers, there’d be more money and the wage would increase for brits.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Since the beginning of your life, since the beginning of the Party, since the beginning of history, the war has continued without a break, always the same war.@benghiskahn3673
The majority is only dependent on having more votes, anything else doesn't really matter. Gutless Tory MPs not voting no atm cos they are just posturing as per usual
Israel had a voluntary departure scheme with Rwanda between 2014 and 2017. Rwanda merely took the majority, if not all, and smuggled them out of the country by land to Kampala [in Uganda] within days of arriving in [the Rwandan capital] Kigali. Of about 4,000 people estimated to have been deported by Israel to Rwanda and Uganda under a “voluntary departure” scheme between 2014 and 2017, almost all are thought to have left the country almost immediately, with many attempting to return to Europe via people-smuggling routes. The BBC has spoken to a number of former asylum seekers who were sent to Rwanda from Israel. They all took part in the scheme between 2014 and 2016 and have since settled in Europe. Separately, we are aware of at least one similar case living in the UK. Others interviewed by migration experts have given similar accounts. Many spoke of being met at the airport in Kigali by a local man called John. This testimony spans several years so it is impossible to verify if "John" was the same person throughout. They described then having their papers taken from them by people who appeared to be Rwandan officials, before being driven to a hotel which was guarded and which they were barred from leaving. They were then told to pay up to $500 to be driven in groups to the Ugandan border. Cars were waiting on the other side to drive them to the capital, Kampala. Again they were made to pay. But with no work or documentation, they say they needed to keep moving - joining the well-worn migration routes across Africa and the Mediterranean to reach Europe. The Guardian Rwanda’s history of receiving deportees raises concerns for potential UK scheme Peter Beaumont 17 Jan 2022 BBC: What happened when Israel sent its refugees to Rwanda Published 23 June 2022 The Times of Israel: Israel precedent prompts outrage as UK plans to send refugees to Rwanda Boris Johnson says move, which is similar to scheme adopted by Jewish state, is aimed at stopping ‘vile people smugglers’ from turning British Channel into ‘watery graveyard’ By JILL LAWLESS 15 April 2022, 8:17 am
As a Scot, where we’ve never voted for a Tory government, but been subject to them, serially, it’ll come as no surprise that they’d stoop as low as going against the Supreme Court. As a Scot living abroad currently, I’ve been honestly surprised, and not in a good way, at the drubbing of the reputation of the entire uk as a result of the entire set of Tory governments of the last 13 years, Brexit into the bargain. As long as English vote in a majority for these clowns, again and again, I have to say, independence gets my full backing, as soon as the opportunity arises. Westminster breached the whole a vote for remaining in the uk = a guaranteed remaining within the EU. Heck, even within corporate law, an equivalent breach voids the contract, never mind constitutions.
I’m embarrassed to be British at the moment. The money paid to Rwanda could have been used to open a processing centre, create those jobs and get migrants processed efficiently so they can start earning and contributing to our economy. This proves that the Tories aren’t interested in actually doing anything about migration because they’d lose one of their favourite ways to fearmonger. It’s not about doing what’s best for the country; it’s all about staying in power and feathering their own nests.
@@skk2359even if I agreed that that would necessarily be a bad thing, maybe the government should have thought of that before driving all the white Europeans away. Your racism is showing.
I have never before been so ashamed to hold a British passport. Over 100 'moderate' Conservative MPs said they had morale reservations about this bill yet not one of them voted it down. Party before principles should be the next Tory slogan. Disgusting if not unsurprising behaviour from these fascists!
I've never been more proud. Too long we've been a flaccid backboneless country taken as a soft touch. Finally we're standing up to prioritise a quality of life for those already settled here as is the duty of the government
The left-wing are the fascists! The government needs to do more and start deporting now! Sick of woke Liberals and left-wing loons putting illegal immigrants before the countries' own people!
Why don’t you have 20 Albanian men pitch up in your garden then? They aren’t coming from dangerous countries, they are coming solely for better prospects, at the expense of the British taxpayer. They are making life for genuine asylum seekers very difficult.
No your celebrating nothing more than a distraction ftom 13 years of Tory misrule. What will you say in 3 years if the Tory clowns or worse still Reform are in power. Sorry when I said I was happy to do away with human rights I didn't mean mine :( You need to think for yourself not rely on GBN and the Daily Fail @anglonrx2754
This shames my country, this used to be a compassionate country, now it’s a hate filled little state. Hopefully the Lords will kick it out, if Rwanda doesn’t pull the plug.
What's the issue? I don't quite comprehend. Are the UK considering relocating migrants to Rwanda? I hope Greece follows suit. While a small number of migrants is acceptable, I don't want my Greek culture to disappear.
Yes and I fear it immigration that has made it so. Unfortunately you sound like one that has be able to suck off the fat of the land, not for you the hard physical labour of competing for work and accommodation with a low income emigrant work force.
@@Leonidas_Papadakis On top of the £400m initial cost, it costs £50m for every 300 people, where net immigration is 1,000,000/year. It is not a reasonable or cost-effective bill and has no effect on overall migration.
@@ianstroud7365 That's it, good little worker, do as you're told and blame those with no power while those that have it keep bleeding you dry. This little worker knows who to blame.
Who benefits... we need someone with investigative skills to follow the money and let us know who in the gov has investments or benefits from this indirectly.. (apart from Suella Braverman) who clearly obsessed
@@philipwookey599 oh I see... Sunak came to power just to prep his inlaws businesses basically... first in israel and now in Rwanda... I wonder what else!
@@roni2977He was parachuted into a safe Conservative seat just after Cameron returned from his big trade trip to India back in 2015/16 where he spent a great deal of time with Sunak's father-in-law.
@@polaris7122the Lord's can stall the bill until a new session of parliament and since this is most likely the last session before the election they can block it until a new government is formed.
So I asks once more is this policy going to apply to everyone? Our just people of color?? If this policy applies to everyone when will the first flight of Ukrainian be to Rwanda be ???
When I first started visiting Spain Generalissimo Franco was still firmly in charge. I never thought at the time that I would be so grateful to gain legal residency here. Love from the EU, and Gran Canaria.
3m visas granted v 78k asylum applications. Easier and cheaper to process. Clear diversionary tactics to avoid dealing with actual problems and winning votes by satisfying scapegoat mentality.
And in other news, the UK government minister left the COP negotiations early to prioritise this bill passing its second reading, and an apparent suicide on the Bibby Stockholm. A lot of human suffering is going on behind the scenes, neglected by the government, and most of the mainstream media. I hope our society can refocus its priorities.
I dont see any emergency legislation to help the NHS from collapsing or for the working people in poverty, absolutely disgusting and abhorrent government
During the season of goodwill, a public member says concerning migration matters, “There’s no room in the inn”. I wonder whether this public member realises the irony in her statement.
I hope people will stop claiming that this is a deterrent to the boat crossings. You are forbidden to say it's a deterrent because that has negative connotations about the "safe" status of Rwanda and hints that moving to the "safe" Rwanda is a punishment. That cannot be so because Rwanda is a "safe" haven and everyone and every Court and every Tribunal all over the world has to say that it is "safe" because the UK Tory party is passing a UK law that orders it to be so. All foreign courts have to now defer to Parliament because if not how could this possibly work. No cases that will come to the ECHR can win because UK Parliament trumps all other jurisdictions everywhere.....or so the idiots in the Tory party think. But they are idiots after all.
The government has to get its migration bill through the HoC. UK nationals who are studying abroad and happen to marry abroad are now unable to return unless they can get a job earning £38,000 pa. We need to get rid of Sunak, Bravermann, etc.
@@666ingz that’s not what the OP is talking about, he’s talking about his distain for raising the minimum earnings for legal migrants which is the much bigger issue than illegal migration.
@@allip4226 nope, they voted for restrictions on freedom of movement between EU countries. Brexit has nothing to do with this comment. Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@kefaspl she is a Non-dom, which non-dom are individuals who are resident in the UK, but who claim that their domicile, being the centre of their personal and financial interests, is outside of the UK. If her earnings are outside of the UK, technically she earn no money, chooses to have shared interest of remaining a foreign status, therefore she should be deported as she no business/job in the UK.
@@scribblezgfx Sorry mate that’s not how that system works, I know you’re trying to make a point for likes but ultimately it isn’t correct. People can still live here and not be citizens, that hasn’t changed. This law is specific to those claiming asylum. She never did or needed to claim asylum. She also makes far more than 40K a year within the UK.
When you are on the side of Gulis, 30p Lee, Farage, Widdecombe, Fabricant, Bojo, the haunted pencil and the chinless witch, is there going to be a point where you turn to everyone and go 'hang on a minute....are we the baddies?'
@@aswing2706It's incredibly expensive (having cost us nearly 300 million pounds so far before even sending a single refugee), illegal (as defined by our literal judiciary system) and completely ignorant of the actual problems people are actually fucking facing in this country. It's some red meat distraction from the fact that the tories have decimated this country and have absolutely no ability or desire to improve conditions here for anyone except their wealthy counterparts.
@@aswing2706 No what is right with this bill, have you not followed the Covid enquiry, when Dominic cummings stated it was put out there to avoid flak from the Public, it was never going to be put into practice.
5 years in prison for illegal entry. 2 years for assisting illegal migrants. 10 years for trafficking. Prison is what, £40k a year of tax payer's money? In those 5 years authorities could find their country of origin and arrange an immediate 1 way trip after their sentence. It's cheap and effective. I've solved your problem. Make me PM.
how do you determine whether a claimant is legitimate or not? Here's an idea! Instead of deliberately increasing the time it takes to process claims by reducing staffing levels and creating a huge backlog, scapegoating a tiny minority for short term political gain, while actively encouraging migrants to work in the UK as a source of cheap labour for unscrupulous employers, who pay less than the going rate and avoid expenditure on workers' rights and protections, which drives down wages across the board, poaching doctors, nurses and care workers from other countries, resulting in poorer outcomes for their citizens and potentially creating an additional push factor for further migration, why don't we get a government in place who can get our own house in order before throwing shitloads of taxpayers' money at an African dictatorship? Just a thought....
Stoke on trent is marginalised not because of immigration but because the pottery industry died a long time ago. Having 3 tory mps being voted in stoke by working class people is the epitomy of what is exactly wrong with this country.
Why did the government waste yet more money on flying the Climate Minister back to the U.K. to vote? Could there not have been a proxy vote or even a vote by Zoom?
I'm sure a lot of the over 60's and the usual "football hooligan" brain trust are cheering but honestly it doesn't matter. The Tories know they lose the next GE by a landslide so they are filling their pockets and dam(n) the consequences. This whole thing is just a Tory grift.
...its why we gave the Tories an 80 seat majority, we've been waiting for this for 4 years, the British people overwhelmingly support tough immigration policies!!!
The ✉ disaster as well as the interest humiliation from Brexit is cemented entirely for all the world to see how England is no longer a country that fights facsism because now it is a fascist state that weighs and measures humans to define if human rights applies to them beforesending to a country that has only recently been taken off the dangerous country list for an asylum exchange or 200 at most people so there's no reduction in the number of people in the UK. That was well worth not addressing the country you are employed to do by the us.
England is also full. No housing for people living here, asylum should be granted by the first safe country, often refugees are passing lots of safe countries. This is a tiny island we cannot keep taking in indefinite amount of people. The resources here are finite.
@@CCOMAT but it has the lifetime deal that will continue to cost multiple millions per year in an exchange of asylum seekers so the net difference of asylum seekers in the UK remains the same and the multiple millions already spent on the Rwanda asylum project is multiple millions that could have otherwise been spent on the UK, but then that wasn't your complaint. Did you know the last PM to build council houses was Margaret Thatcher in 1988?
Local councils facings bankruptcy having to implement yet more cuts to public services and our government is spending £300 billion plus other costs on this Rwanda deportation bill which Britain won't get back if Rwanda rejects the Tory government's refugee deal. Anyone want to vote Tory in the next general election?
As a person who has lived in Rwanda twice in my life, it is one of the safest countries in Africa. In fact, it has been described as the Switzerland of Africa.
Report them! I know what you mean iv seen it with my own eyes. Petrol pumps, corner shops, that textile business case which was on the news a few months ago. It's all happening infront of our eyes
there's many investigations going on people are brought here told to zip it will their masters take all their earning including benefits this was from a guy I spoke to and because hes been targeted for opening up about this hole in the system. @@emmabrooker166
The Rishy Gov is so weak that they needed to beg to pass a bill that eventually will cause more problem in Britain than it is now. This bill will now remain as a problem for the next gov as well. This passing shows how much the Torry MP's are backboneless that they can't revolt knowing something is wrong in their midst and this way they would rather let it put on the entire country.
The authoritarian wing of the Tories let this through because they aren’t organised enough yet to mount a solid challenge to Sunak. They are just kicking the can down the road and hoping that next time it comes up for a vote they’ll have a replacement leader all lined up and they can vote it down then and use that as leverage to force a leadership challenge
From the very beginning the Rwanda plan was totally crazy. Now a law decide which country is "safe", completely bonkers. Ignoring the moral side of the scheme, it is millions spent, with currently not a single person deported to Rwanda yet. Total insanity.
Back to the days of Brexit, voting for something unnecessary and rediculous not for its own sake, but solely to make poor leadership look good. The UK does not want to be saddled with the Rwanda Scheme.
It don't mean nothing, it ain't going to act as a deterrent, they are still going to keep coming weather or not, its only the weather that's reduced it this year.
@@grahamturner1290 hahaha, you really are a bit 'THICK' I have the agreement here and nowhere does it mention an exchange. It states that we will accept an unspecified portion of their refugees, it's not an exchange, what can't you understand about that????
Not only would it mean we get a pathetic number away from Britain, there's an unlimited amount of Rwandan's allowed here in return plus the rejected asylum seekers. Joke.
I just dont get why we can not control our boarders... this is not a free world. you simply cannot most to a country of your choice without being accepted. end off... I would happily like to live in Australia but I cant... these people are choosing to travel to the UK. it is perfectly safe in France where they are coming from.
Imagine they were actually trying to do something that benefited most people, like fixing the NHS, helping the poor and working class
Nah that would actually require doing some work
Nothing wrong with the NHS, it's all lies by Labour
Uncontrolled immigration hurts the working class, and makes the poor poorer (after all they are the ones footing the bulk of the bill, as well as having to live on the front line of "integration"). It also puts extra strain on all social systems (the bulk of which are also paid by the poor and working class), not just the NHS. This Rwanda plan will no doubt be expensive and ineffectual (and therefore pointless) but we certainly need a plan of some kind.
Green boy are you seriously joking 😂😂😂no1 on peoples list is immigration
Need to stop the illegal/low skilled legal immigrants coming in and deporting them to do so, rent prices would lower, property prices would depreciate, NHS would have more space and waiting times would drop, schools would have smaller classes and there’d be more teachers, there’d be more money and the wage would increase for brits.
People fighting over scraps from the table is exactly what the tories want.
Just like they did this morning at No10 over smoke salmon.
Immigration into the UK has been absolutely unmitigated and the numbers are unprecedented in history. How is it not a legitimate issue?
As a Swede, deciding by law that a particular country is "safe" seems completely foreign.
This is basically a bill to legislate that water is not wet. The Atlantic is now a desert, nobody can say otherwise.
@@benghiskahn3673wont be surprised if Labour abolishes it when they come to power
As a Scot, it’s completely foreign to me too. Get us off this sinking ship and fast
It is typically British, American and others to do so in their parliaments.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Since the beginning of your life, since the beginning of the Party, since the beginning of history, the war has continued without a break, always the same war.@benghiskahn3673
Sunak got his bill passed but he lost the majority of the house, 44 majority but 69 abstained, he looks doomed to me.
The majority is only dependent on having more votes, anything else doesn't really matter. Gutless Tory MPs not voting no atm cos they are just posturing as per usual
Me thinks the same. He's on borrowed time as prime minister.
39 abstained
abstained =don't care
@@edwarddonnelly-l7b not it means, in this case for this bill, that they don’t support it but won’t vote against it to stop it proceeding forward.
Another long term failure for a ahort term win.
It's not a win. The immigrants are the only people doing any work keeping the county running.
Israel had a voluntary departure scheme with Rwanda between 2014 and 2017. Rwanda merely took the majority, if not all, and smuggled them out of the country by land to Kampala [in Uganda] within days of arriving in [the Rwandan capital] Kigali.
Of about 4,000 people estimated to have been deported by Israel to Rwanda and Uganda under a “voluntary departure” scheme between 2014 and 2017, almost all are thought to have left the country almost immediately, with many attempting to return to Europe via people-smuggling routes.
The BBC has spoken to a number of former asylum seekers who were sent to Rwanda from Israel. They all took part in the scheme between 2014 and 2016 and have since settled in Europe. Separately, we are aware of at least one similar case living in the UK. Others interviewed by migration experts have given similar accounts.
Many spoke of being met at the airport in Kigali by a local man called John. This testimony spans several years so it is impossible to verify if "John" was the same person throughout. They described then having their papers taken from them by people who appeared to be Rwandan officials, before being driven to a hotel which was guarded and which they were barred from leaving.
They were then told to pay up to $500 to be driven in groups to the Ugandan border. Cars were waiting on the other side to drive them to the capital, Kampala. Again they were made to pay.
But with no work or documentation, they say they needed to keep moving - joining the well-worn migration routes across Africa and the Mediterranean to reach Europe.
The Guardian Rwanda’s history of receiving deportees raises concerns for potential UK scheme
Peter Beaumont 17 Jan 2022
BBC: What happened when Israel sent its refugees to Rwanda
Published
23 June 2022
The Times of Israel: Israel precedent prompts outrage as UK plans to send refugees to Rwanda
Boris Johnson says move, which is similar to scheme adopted by Jewish state, is aimed at stopping ‘vile people smugglers’ from turning British Channel into ‘watery graveyard’
By JILL LAWLESS
15 April 2022, 8:17 am
& for a win that won't keep them in office
Yep sounds good then get send to Rwanda again they might stay in france or german instead now
Which they wont have to die in the channel stay in the EU France Germany same laws and we dont get over run
there goes a couple hundred million pounds of tax payer money straight into the bin....
As a Scot, where we’ve never voted for a Tory government, but been subject to them, serially, it’ll come as no surprise that they’d stoop as low as going against the Supreme Court.
As a Scot living abroad currently, I’ve been honestly surprised, and not in a good way, at the drubbing of the reputation of the entire uk as a result of the entire set of Tory governments of the last 13 years, Brexit into the bargain.
As long as English vote in a majority for these clowns, again and again, I have to say, independence gets my full backing, as soon as the opportunity arises.
Westminster breached the whole a vote for remaining in the uk = a guaranteed remaining within the EU.
Heck, even within corporate law, an equivalent breach voids the contract, never mind constitutions.
It surprises me that you were surprised.
Meanwhile your SNP leader meets with a Terrorist supporter from Turkey!
You don't have a right to an opinion since you don't even live in the country anymore. Concern yourself with the politics of your new home. 😉
I had no doubt the tories would pull this dispicable act off!
What's despicable about it?
Illegals don't have rights in the UK.
@@emir4ofabj397 Giving a racist unelected Prime Minister dictatorial executive powers.
@@StevieSpiers-ru3mf Racist? Really?
And since when has the UK ever elected a PM?
It will not get through the Lords. A truly immoral costly and crackpot idea.
I’m embarrassed to be British at the moment. The money paid to Rwanda could have been used to open a processing centre, create those jobs and get migrants processed efficiently so they can start earning and contributing to our economy. This proves that the Tories aren’t interested in actually doing anything about migration because they’d lose one of their favourite ways to fearmonger. It’s not about doing what’s best for the country; it’s all about staying in power and feathering their own nests.
You really think illegal immigrants would get jobs...? You clearly know nothing
Islamic population increases in uk 😂
@@skk2359even if I agreed that that would necessarily be a bad thing, maybe the government should have thought of that before driving all the white Europeans away. Your racism is showing.
A depressing day and another nail in the coffin of decency
I have never before been so ashamed to hold a British passport.
Over 100 'moderate' Conservative MPs said they had morale reservations about this bill yet not one of them voted it down. Party before principles should be the next Tory slogan.
Disgusting if not unsurprising behaviour from these fascists!
I've never been more proud. Too long we've been a flaccid backboneless country taken as a soft touch. Finally we're standing up to prioritise a quality of life for those already settled here as is the duty of the government
The left-wing are the fascists! The government needs to do more and start deporting now! Sick of woke Liberals and left-wing loons putting illegal immigrants before the countries' own people!
Why don’t you have 20 Albanian men pitch up in your garden then? They aren’t coming from dangerous countries, they are coming solely for better prospects, at the expense of the British taxpayer. They are making life for genuine asylum seekers very difficult.
Thanks for letting us all know how virtuous you are. Well done👏
No your celebrating nothing more than a distraction ftom 13 years of Tory misrule.
What will you say in 3 years if the Tory clowns or worse still Reform are in power.
Sorry when I said I was happy to do away with human rights I didn't mean mine :(
You need to think for yourself not rely on GBN and the Daily Fail @anglonrx2754
This is nothing to celebrate quite the reverse.
This shames my country, this used to be a compassionate country, now it’s a hate filled little state. Hopefully the Lords will kick it out, if Rwanda doesn’t pull the plug.
The Lords can't kick it out, they will just delay it!
What's the issue? I don't quite comprehend. Are the UK considering relocating migrants to Rwanda? I hope Greece follows suit. While a small number of migrants is acceptable, I don't want my Greek culture to disappear.
Yes and I fear it immigration that has made it so. Unfortunately you sound like one that has be able to suck off the fat of the land, not for you the hard physical labour of competing for work and accommodation with a low income emigrant work force.
@@Leonidas_Papadakis On top of the £400m initial cost, it costs £50m for every 300 people, where net immigration is 1,000,000/year. It is not a reasonable or cost-effective bill and has no effect on overall migration.
@@ianstroud7365 That's it, good little worker, do as you're told and blame those with no power while those that have it keep bleeding you dry.
This little worker knows who to blame.
Who benefits... we need someone with investigative skills to follow the money and let us know who in the gov has investments or benefits from this indirectly.. (apart from Suella Braverman) who clearly obsessed
Sunak's Wife has a company called Infosys, and they have a division in Rwanda.
@@philipwookey599 oh I see... Sunak came to power just to prep his inlaws businesses basically... first in israel and now in Rwanda... I wonder what else!
@@roni2977He was parachuted into a safe Conservative seat just after Cameron returned from his big trade trip to India back in 2015/16 where he spent a great deal of time with Sunak's father-in-law.
Exactly we don't its a migrant swap and we pay
Tories. Self serving until the end, which is very close for hundreds of them.
The Lords will never accept this rubish, nor will the courts.
Nothing to do with the Lords, they can only make recommendations and delay the bill!
Exactly
@@polaris7122 Plus the courts are only permitted to follow the law, so now the law is changing they will have the new view on what is legal.
yes it has they have to pass the bill @@polaris7122
@@polaris7122the Lord's can stall the bill until a new session of parliament and since this is most likely the last session before the election they can block it until a new government is formed.
So I asks once more is this policy going to apply to everyone? Our just people of color?? If this policy applies to everyone when will the first flight of Ukrainian be to Rwanda be ???
Well said
Good point!
2 simple rules for life;
No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
The Tory MPs approving Rwanda can be seen behind the Interviewers wearing their Balloon Hats.
And next they will pass a law saying the Moon is made of British cheese
When I first started visiting Spain Generalissimo Franco was still firmly in charge. I never thought at the time that I would be so grateful to gain legal residency here. Love from the EU, and Gran Canaria.
Yes, I remember Franco's Spain.
Behave this is a load of bullxxxx it wont even have one flight and wave goodbye to £240 million ask a ten year old to sort this problem out
This Tory 'Flagship' is getting ever more reminiscent of the white star lines flagship...
another Tory 'Titanic' victory so to speak?
I wonder
3m visas granted v 78k asylum applications. Easier and cheaper to process. Clear diversionary tactics to avoid dealing with actual problems and winning votes by satisfying scapegoat mentality.
All rotten to the core and its all rigged as usual
And in other news, the UK government minister left the COP negotiations early to prioritise this bill passing its second reading, and an apparent suicide on the Bibby Stockholm. A lot of human suffering is going on behind the scenes, neglected by the government, and most of the mainstream media. I hope our society can refocus its priorities.
I dont see any emergency legislation to help the NHS from collapsing or for the working people in poverty, absolutely disgusting and abhorrent government
During the season of goodwill, a public member says concerning migration matters, “There’s no room in the inn”. I wonder whether this public member realises the irony in her statement.
She probably a Christian to boot.
Our fathers would be ashamed of what this government has done; it is treason against Britain.
Freedom is gone in United Kingdom
The public have made up their minds on Sunak and it’s very negative.
True 👍
Bye bye last shreds of democracy!!! It was good while it lasted
A totally pointless distraction.
I wonder how many knighthoods that cost ?
I hope people will stop claiming that this is a deterrent to the boat crossings. You are forbidden to say it's a deterrent because that has negative connotations about the "safe" status of Rwanda and hints that moving to the "safe" Rwanda is a punishment. That cannot be so because Rwanda is a "safe" haven and everyone and every Court and every Tribunal all over the world has to say that it is "safe" because the UK Tory party is passing a UK law that orders it to be so. All foreign courts have to now defer to Parliament because if not how could this possibly work. No cases that will come to the ECHR can win because UK Parliament trumps all other jurisdictions everywhere.....or so the idiots in the Tory party think. But they are idiots after all.
Notts council just announced bankruptcy 🤷♂️
The government has to get its migration bill through the HoC. UK nationals who are studying abroad and happen to marry abroad are now unable to return unless they can get a job earning £38,000 pa. We need to get rid of Sunak, Bravermann, etc.
so you believe 750,000 net migration is a good thing?
@DJSyKoh They could start processing the claims for asylum and maybe, should reopen the processing centre at Calais
@@666ingz that’s not what the OP is talking about, he’s talking about his distain for raising the minimum earnings for legal migrants which is the much bigger issue than illegal migration.
@@DJSyKohIt’s what Leave voters chose when they voted for Brexit. They were warned but insisted they knew better. Enjoy!
@@allip4226 nope, they voted for restrictions on freedom of movement between EU countries. Brexit has nothing to do with this comment. Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about
A Bill that would deport Rishi’s wife
it would not. She earns well above 38k a year
Obviously it wouldn’t, stop getting your information from Tik Tok and instagram.
You don't know what you're talking about.
@@kefaspl she is a Non-dom, which non-dom are individuals who are resident in the UK, but who claim that their domicile, being the centre of their personal and financial interests, is outside of the UK.
If her earnings are outside of the UK, technically she earn no money, chooses to have shared interest of remaining a foreign status, therefore she should be deported as she no business/job in the UK.
@@scribblezgfx Sorry mate that’s not how that system works, I know you’re trying to make a point for likes but ultimately it isn’t correct. People can still live here and not be citizens, that hasn’t changed. This law is specific to those claiming asylum. She never did or needed to claim asylum.
She also makes far more than 40K a year within the UK.
Wtf is going on in England
When you are on the side of Gulis, 30p Lee, Farage, Widdecombe, Fabricant, Bojo, the haunted pencil and the chinless witch, is there going to be a point where you turn to everyone and go 'hang on a minute....are we the baddies?'
'Why is there a skull on my uniform?'
@JamesWilsonMD
I'm not convinced this government is the answer but agreed lefty morons certainly aren't either
@@JamesWilsonMD careful what you wish for my friend!
@@JamesWilsonMDmoron.
@@JamesWilsonMDYou did kinda just do the exact same thing you were trying to point out... 😬
They are still finished.
Shameful behaviour--- The Lords need to put the brakes on this Legislation.
What's wrong with this bill?
@@aswing2706It's incredibly expensive (having cost us nearly 300 million pounds so far before even sending a single refugee), illegal (as defined by our literal judiciary system) and completely ignorant of the actual problems people are actually fucking facing in this country. It's some red meat distraction from the fact that the tories have decimated this country and have absolutely no ability or desire to improve conditions here for anyone except their wealthy counterparts.
the lords are undemocratic.
@@aswing2706 No what is right with this bill, have you not followed the Covid enquiry, when Dominic cummings stated it was put out there to avoid flak from the Public, it was never going to be put into practice.
Why come to the UK when Rwanda is happy to receive them? Whats wrong with Rwanda?
No chance human rights lawyers will block it.
This is very disturbing indeed
Shameful
In other words, lots of people were threatened to get this through.
5 years in prison for illegal entry. 2 years for assisting illegal migrants. 10 years for trafficking. Prison is what, £40k a year of tax payer's money? In those 5 years authorities could find their country of origin and arrange an immediate 1 way trip after their sentence. It's cheap and effective. I've solved your problem. Make me PM.
how do you determine whether a claimant is legitimate or not? Here's an idea! Instead of deliberately increasing the time it takes to process claims by reducing staffing levels and creating a huge backlog, scapegoating a tiny minority for short term political gain, while actively encouraging migrants to work in the UK as a source of cheap labour for unscrupulous employers, who pay less than the going rate and avoid expenditure on workers' rights and protections, which drives down wages across the board, poaching doctors, nurses and care workers from other countries, resulting in poorer outcomes for their citizens and potentially creating an additional push factor for further migration, why don't we get a government in place who can get our own house in order before throwing shitloads of taxpayers' money at an African dictatorship? Just a thought....
Expensive waste of time, money and effort. Patrolling the borders and turning back boats would be better. This ain't saving the tories
Fantastic, more Tory money wastes. It would literally be cheaper to keep them here and buy them a house.
Stoke on trent is marginalised not because of immigration but because the pottery industry died a long time ago. Having 3 tory mps being voted in stoke by working class people is the epitomy of what is exactly wrong with this country.
Shame on every patsy individual that voted for this.
Why did the government waste yet more money on flying the Climate Minister
back to the U.K. to vote? Could there not have been a proxy vote or even a vote by Zoom?
Do UK people really support this bill? Or just the so called politicians?
Yes the majority. Or do you live in a privalidged bubble ? Bit like Brexit was a suprise to those that live in bubbles
I'm sure a lot of the over 60's and the usual "football hooligan" brain trust are cheering but honestly it doesn't matter.
The Tories know they lose the next GE by a landslide so they are filling their pockets and dam(n) the consequences.
This whole thing is just a Tory grift.
People here are fed up. Not enough housing, long waiting times for NHS. More people, means more fighting for the same resources.
Politicians
...its why we gave the Tories an 80 seat majority, we've been waiting for this for 4 years, the British people overwhelmingly support tough immigration policies!!!
The ✉ disaster as well as the interest humiliation from Brexit is cemented entirely for all the world to see how England is no longer a country that fights facsism because now it is a fascist state that weighs and measures humans to define if human rights applies to them beforesending to a country that has only recently been taken off the dangerous country list for an asylum exchange or 200 at most people so there's no reduction in the number of people in the UK. That was well worth not addressing the country you are employed to do by the us.
Britain isn't safe for immigrants. Too dangerous here. Send em away somewhere safer, like maybe Saudi Arabia ?
England is also full. No housing for people living here, asylum should be granted by the first safe country, often refugees are passing lots of safe countries. This is a tiny island we cannot keep taking in indefinite amount of people. The resources here are finite.
@@CCOMAT but it has the lifetime deal that will continue to cost multiple millions per year in an exchange of asylum seekers so the net difference of asylum seekers in the UK remains the same and the multiple millions already spent on the Rwanda asylum project is multiple millions that could have otherwise been spent on the UK, but then that wasn't your complaint. Did you know the last PM to build council houses was Margaret Thatcher in 1988?
@@dambrooks7578 do you understand what a deterrent is? The whole point is to slow the flow
@@DJSyKohThere's absolutely zero evidence that it's going to be a deterrent of any kind. It's a political stunt to appeal to racists and bigots.
Will we ever lean from history hopefully this lot will be soon relegated to the past
Any bets on how many times Sunak will say "Our plan is working , crossings are down by a third , Mr Speaker , they dont have a plan" at PMT today?
Local councils facings bankruptcy having to implement yet more cuts to public services and our government
is spending £300 billion plus other costs on this Rwanda deportation bill which Britain won't get back if Rwanda rejects the Tory government's refugee deal. Anyone want to vote Tory in the next general election?
Unfortunately the rich and stupid will vote Tory as the brain washing method of every PmQ has been "labour has no plan but we have a plan" rubbish.
Deplorable absolutely shameful
Of course they did. More shame in My name.
Wait to legislating that "Rwanda is safe" regardless of the facts, is tested in court.
Courts don't get to choose laws, they only get to interpret it
Rwanda is safest country in Africa. I wish you could all go and visit
@@ntanoelSafe for whom?
@@ntanoel Oh right the country that has had multiple civil wars and genocides?
As a person who has lived in Rwanda twice in my life, it is one of the safest countries in Africa. In fact, it has been described as the Switzerland of Africa.
All this says is we need conservatives out . Done and dusted
You can only imagine the blackmail and bribery. Lol .
Turkeys voting for Christmas....
Traitors and cowards. Rishi blackmailing the whips if they voted against him he would remove the whip.
Public servants forgetting the public as per.
What about the Local shops bringing in people and employing them for pennies and keeping all their benefits.
Report them! I know what you mean iv seen it with my own eyes. Petrol pumps, corner shops, that textile business case which was on the news a few months ago. It's all happening infront of our eyes
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there's many investigations going on people are brought here told to zip it will their masters take all their earning including benefits this was from a guy I spoke to and because hes been targeted for opening up about this hole in the system. @@emmabrooker166
Time for the people to take over.
Bye bye Tories
They are only sending 300 there per year 😂
It's the deterrent aspect
The Rishy Gov is so weak that they needed to beg to pass a bill that eventually will cause more problem in Britain than it is now. This bill will now remain as a problem for the next gov as well. This passing shows how much the Torry MP's are backboneless that they can't revolt knowing something is wrong in their midst and this way they would rather let it put on the entire country.
The authoritarian wing of the Tories let this through because they aren’t organised enough yet to mount a solid challenge to Sunak. They are just kicking the can down the road and hoping that next time it comes up for a vote they’ll have a replacement leader all lined up and they can vote it down then and use that as leverage to force a leadership challenge
So the Rwanda bill passed?
Finally you can send him there.
From the very beginning the Rwanda plan was totally crazy. Now a law decide which country is "safe", completely bonkers. Ignoring the moral side of the scheme, it is millions spent, with currently not a single person deported to Rwanda yet. Total insanity.
guy forks comes to mind
Which tory party won?
Both the nasty, racist ones.
Back to the days of Brexit, voting for something unnecessary and rediculous not for its own sake, but solely to make poor leadership look good. The UK does not want to be saddled with the Rwanda Scheme.
When are the public gonna shut this cesspit down its clearly unfit for our society now its a WEF run show now
Give us an election !
When do we get a PM the public voted for?
and a white british 1
@@robroy6804 that's ridiculous.
And the travesty goes on.
Come January there will be a split between those who want to retain our human rights and those who will discard them.
It don't mean nothing, it ain't going to act as a deterrent, they are still going to keep coming weather or not, its only the weather that's reduced it this year.
Ho dear, a lot of self preservation, filling the pockets for a few more months
Son-in-law of Indian will he be the winner 🏆.😂😂😂😂
This is what we should be protesting about. What a joke
...nobody cares about your protests
Oh my gosh, what a waste of tax payers money. It's not going to deter illegal migrants.
proper 1984 moment
Outrageous
So what does this mean will it go before the house of Lords and then 700,000 go to Rwanda will that be it or will only 29 people go like last time.
Who cares they ain’t being moved anywhere near Rishi.
The Rwanda Exchange Scheme. 🦇💩
It is not an EXCHANGE scheme, please read the agreement!
@@polaris7122 we send people our government doesn't want to Rwanda. They send people their government doesn't want to the UK. Try to understand.
@@grahamturner1290 hahaha, you really are a bit 'THICK' I have the agreement here and nowhere does it mention an exchange. It states that we will accept an unspecified portion of their refugees, it's not an exchange, what can't you understand about that????
@@polaris7122 what part of "unspecified portion" don't you understand? Is English not your first language?
@@grahamturner1290That means the Rwandans have yet to decide what the figure will be.
Not for long
Not only would it mean we get a pathetic number away from Britain, there's an unlimited amount of Rwandan's allowed here in return plus the rejected asylum seekers. Joke.
“If the inns are full what do you do?!?” Er…rather famously you sleep in the stable🙄 Merry Xmas
I just dont get why we can not control our boarders... this is not a free world. you simply cannot most to a country of your choice without being accepted. end off... I would happily like to live in Australia but I cant... these people are choosing to travel to the UK. it is perfectly safe in France where they are coming from.
God bless you Sunak that save England from wild muslim and traitors
Just STOP them coming in the first place ...
Great Britain.
Should send Rishi to Rwanda too?
As you all can see he’s an immigrant too.