The Hunter Line: What an oddity! (North Coast Line section)
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- The Hunter Line is a peculiar railway, with stations in the middle of nowhere, tiny platforms and super infrequent services. In this video, follow Amy and I as we explore the following stations on the Hunter Line: Lochinvar, High Street, Mindaribba, Paterson, Martins Creek, Hilldale, Wallarobba, Wirragulla, Dungog.
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Links:
Site where I got patronage stats for the Hunter Line: patronage.will.au/nsw
Hunter Line Track Layout (North Coast Line): railsafe.org.au/__data/assets...
NSWRail.net website about the North Coast Line, which helped a LOT for researching this video: www.nswrail.net/lines/show.ph...
Lochinvar Structure Plan (2007): www.maitland.nsw.gov.au/sites...
The Rail Motor Society Website: www.trms.org.au/
Martins Creek Quarry Rail Logistics Document: majorprojects.planningportal....
Martins Creek Quarry Auction for those of you with $20 million in the bank: www.realcommercial.com.au/for...
Dungog Chronicle Article about steep ramp at Wallarobba which I refuse to pay $1 to read: www.dungogchronicle.com.au/st...
Sections:
00:00 Intro
02:19 Lochinvar
05:21 High Street
06:31 Mindaribba
08:26 Paterson
11:19 Martins Creek
12:58 Hilldale
16:33 Wallarobba
18:11 Wirragulla
20:07 Dungog
22:26 Outro
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19:23 "Emergency Help Point" … I can't stop wonder what would happen if you're mugged at Wirragulla station and try using the Emergency Help Point. "Yeah, mate. We'll be there in…about 9 hours."
One request though: Don't add a "ping" sound whenever you place an arrow. It makes me jump to look for a new message on my phone every time.
I've heard that the stations that were only "half upgraded" (like High Street, Greta etc), was done for the purpose of bypassing a rule,
If they had upgraded the whole length of the platform, then they would had to have put in lifts etc.
So by only doing some of the platform, they didn't need to put in lifts.
The access to the Martins creek quarry has not been used in "some time"
At Dungog,
Technically the other platform is called the "Back Platform" and the signal shows "BP" on approach for the turn out.
The soyjack thumbnail is hilarious
Agreed lol
😮
I thought that it looked like that thing yeah
Half the reason I clicked on this vid 😂
You are absolutely correct about those switches at Martins Creek by the way. I'm a train driver and have taken a train in there once before. The switches are actually called a ground frame. The frame has a key, which is in the nearby box with the padlock on it, which can only be released by the network controller. Pulling the levers over will change the points to allow a train into the quarry siding. Hope the info was useful for anyone that's interested!
Thanks for letting us all know, very interesting!
Mindaribba probably wins the "percentage of platform occupied by station sign" contest though.
Okay, a fan post. I ❤️ your comment. Droll to the point of hilarious !! Made my day. 😊
In Victoria, (now closed) “Wedderburn Junction” was bigger than the platform. The line to Wedderburn was only 5 miles long.
This is so nostalgic to watch. I lived in Wallarobba as a kid in the early 2000's. Me and my siblings would catch the train home from school most days
We'd almost always get a 620/720, which were saunas during summer. The summer days an Endeavour with its air conditioning showed up were a treat
After getting off, we'd wait on the platform until the train was around the corner, out of sight. Then we'd cross the track and a few fields to get home. Always keeping an eye out for brown snakes though!
And fun fact, between the original larger station, and the concrete one there now, there was a short wooden one when I lived there. It was similar to the now closed Allandale Station. It was so short the train would regularly miss the platform and we'd have to climb down to ground level to get off
Happy to have brought back memories for you! That's very interesting, yes I think many of the currently concrete short platforms used to be wooden platforms, like Wirragulla.
As someone who used to live in the Hunter Valley area for 20 years and used this line frequently. I got a real sense of nostalgia just watching your video and honestly really appreciate a non-locals opinion of the Hunter Line. I think the line is useful for commuting between Maitland and Newcastle plus I absolutely loved travelling to Sydney by train when I was a teenager and in my early 20s. In all seriousness, I absolutely loved the video, keep it up!
Somewhere around Mindaribba I realised that you drove to all of these stations and I thought "Surely catching a train is the best way to get to a train station, right?" which was immediately followed by the realisation that if you're visiting multiple stations in one day where there is an hour gap between trains there's really no feasible way to do that by catching the trains themselves. Let alone if you want to catch any drone footage of a train passing.
Edit: Oh lol, you covered that later.
Yeah it would've been hell! Especially since we're both only ever free on the weekend, when services are even worse.
These stations make developers rub hands aggressively
and then tfnsw says 'hey darnick was a great idea, staircases in the middle of absolutely nowhere isa blo'oy brilliant idea, so lets downgrade the hunter line to that :)'
Why?
"Let's build 10,000 new homes at Hilldale. Only 1 hour to Newcastle and 4 hours to Sydney. Location location location!"
@@BuildingBeautifully perfection, i am definitely move from tasmania to there
Dungog and Paterson stations are used more than Opal figures would lead you to believe, Several rail heritage group run trips to Dungog or Paterson from Maitland or Newcastle. It is quite pleasant going to Dungog behind a steam engine.
As i said before, love it when you have a co host. Amy is great.... MORE AMY !!!
Oh she really is!
What is this, Half as Interesting?
Reminds me a bit of the stony point line down here on the outskirts of Melbourne. Like this hunter lines has small infrequent diesel trains, tiny stations and frequency and low patronage
fun fact about the Stony Point Line, the Sprinter trains that are used on the line were built in the Hunter. specifically Broady
I love the Stony Point line because whenever something happens in the city that takes down all of the city lines, Stony Point is the only line with a green dot next to it on PTV, I used to joke that you'll know when the apocalypse is upon us when Stony Point isn't running as scheduled.
Oh for sure, I went on the Stony Point Line when I was in Melbourne in March. I think it's not as bad though, the stations certainly look bigger and Stony Point was fairly busy that day.
Used to ride the Scone branch from Singleton regularly from 1987-1989. Abandoned stations on that branch include Whittingham, Minimbah, Belford, Allandale and Farley. Most are away from their town centres probably because their main function would have been transporting stock.
The long ramp is due to Australian design standards for access which mandate that ramps built after 1994 be no steeper than 1:14.
It’s not a branch line. It’s the Main North!
Australia and it's excessive rules. Look at the result. Makes 1970s brutalist architecture look Victorian.
I understand why the ramp is there and so long. It's still a bad ramp, because there's no stairs. Realistically, those who can will just cross the tracks directly instead of using the long ramp, which is problematic.
the line to scone name is the main north it went to the QUEENSLAND Boarder till they closed the line past Armadale so the Trucking companies can make more money and railways loose and people say COST OF LIVING I wonder why?
@@PETERWATT-ly5yt that's vile and tragic. A piece of infrastructure built by our forbears thrown in the trash like that. We have too many trucks. They are a pest and don't drive particularly professionally to help their cause.
Sharath I have always loved your videos, but this is the best yet. Sarcasm well delivered is hilarious, and you nailed it.
Aw thank you, I'm happy you enjoyed it!
Great vid. I was on this line last week - the 2nd last on my quest to ride all the intercity/suburban/metro lines of Sydney. The usage figures that CityRail say are interesting. I caught the 8:29am from Hamilton to Dungog and the same train on its return, which due to late running was 7 minutes. I couldn't walk around Dungog due to other commitments in Newcastle. On that trip people hoped off at Paterson (6), Martins Creek (2) and 2 people at one of the single door platforms (can't remember which one). None of them tapped off on the opal reader -all just left the platform. About 8 go off at Dungog and a similar number caught it back to Maitland. Definitely a quiet line. As I have a gold opal card, it was a great $2.50 ride!
Wow, what a bargain! Yeah, you're not gonna get Opal checked out there, that's for sure. The passenger figures are likely higher.
In early 1967 at age early 20s I lived with my uncle and grandmother just west over the Hunter River at the Luskintyre timber truss bridge. One Sunday I went to church in Newcastle with a friend and was invited by other friends for lunch and dinner near Sandgate. In order to get home to Luskintyre I had to catch a train to Singleton going through Sandgate. It was after 8pm at night and my nearest station to get home was Lochinvar. I had to tell the train driver (on a steam engine) that he had to stop at Lochinvar to let me off. So I was pretty scared that he might forget. Anyway he did stop and I got off at the old station on the southern side as shown in the b/w photo in this video. It was dimly lit and even scarier. So I had to walk west to the level crossing to walk north into Lochinvar. I had never been to this part of the district so being late in the evening I was literally walking into the unknown, and I was quite unnerved. It was now pitch black and I could barely make out the gravel road as the dim lights of Lochinvar station receded behind me. Dogs sort of got roused as I passed a few farm houses, and their barking really put the wind up me. But I sort of trudged stoically on till I got to the well-lit New England Highway 2km from the station. Then I had a further 2.5km to get to the bridge, which included a 300-400 metre west on the Highway past the Lochinvar Hotel which was near closing or was closed being a Sunday, I can’t actually remember. I was now feeling more at ease in the more familiar landscape even though it was difficult away from the town lighting to see anything. Google maps now tell me the whole walking journey would have taken 1 hour and 14 minutes. So I guess I arrived home a bit after 10pm. Of course in those days the farmhouse back door was not locked so I crept into bed quickly knowing I had to get up at 03:30 next morning to help uncle with the milking. That is one of my abiding memories of Lochinvar and surrounds. Thankyou for the interesting video, I found it fascinating.
As someone that lives in the Rutherford area I hate that the westerly tracks out to Scone are nothing but coal trains every 15 minutes or so. If there was more than 5 trains a day, people would use them...
I also selfishly wish the old Farley station that was removed in the 1960s is returned for the new developments in Rutherford and Farley, but we need at least 1/2 hourly services for it to be usable. Even the hourly off peak to Telarah isn't enough.
I agree 100%
We just need more regional train stations in general. Stop enforcing car dependency on everyone, Australian Government :((
Another fantastic video from you Sharath. I wonder if the maintenance costs for that crazy long footbridge at Lochinvar is higher than those station buildings that they removed 😂
A lot lower than a lift however
@@mark123655 Exactly. Not enough people use the station to justify the cost of installing and maintaining lifts, so there are ramps instead. However, to make the station accessible to disabled people and parents pushing prams, the gradient on the ramps has to be quite low. This requires the ramps to be as long as they are. Gradient is vertical rise over horizontal distance, so for any given rise, if you increase the distance, the gradient decreases. Hope that helps!!
Thank you! You might be onto something there...
Developers and Real Estate agents “Oh a train station!!! Homes now valued at 1.5 million dollars. Thank you.
I'm honestly surprised that these are quieter than Lysaghts, and that Lochinvar is quieter than Rydal despite Rydal being right next to the actual town. I guess more evidence than ever that frequency of service matters.
Okay seeing mindaribba station in it's beauty has made me understand how it's quieter. Yet Rydal is quieter still. Insane.
For sure. Rydal gets very few services and is in the middle of a very small town. I'd imagine at least part of the reason that a station like Mindaribba is busier is that it's easier for gunzels to get to due to more frequent services.
It would, I'd suggest. I use Tarana, at times, for rail services, and we only get 4 Endeavour services per day (2 in the morning to Central, and 2 in the afternoon from Central), plus the Dubbo XPT in the morning from Central, and in the late afternoon to Central. It can be easier to just drive to Lithgow for electric services, which are every 2 hours on week days.
Lysaghts is for when your car pool mate is on holidays and you haven't served out your license suspension yet.
Honestly best channel on YT right now. Well done
Aw thank you!
I had a good chuckle at the comparison "these stations make Denistone look like Central".
In the 70's it was a 2 car rail motor, in winter it was like sitting in a freezer people sitting on boxes in the corridor.
I went to Scone and back on the Fare Free Days around 20 years ago - it was the furthest you could get, and I totalled 1,000 km in 24 hours
wow i wish they'd continue doing that
I live right near a Hunter Line station (not one of these tiny stations though!) and really enjoyed this video. I find the line really useful, especially between Maitland and Newcastle, which I think is a key route to the further development of the Hunter region. So easy to hop on a train and get into Newcastle for work or socializing without always having to drive. There's even been times I've changed trains at Hamilton to take a day trip ALL the way down to Sydney to have lunch with Sydney-based friends...so funnily enough I would actually be one of those strange hypothetical Hunter residents who might want to know what was going on with Sydney local trackwork!
Obviously it takes a while to get down to Sydney, but then so does driving and you save an absolute shitload on petrol costs - plus you can just read or watch movies or just stare out at the scenery (which can be beautiful, especially around the Hawkesbury), and you don't have to worry about Sydney parking costs or availability! I use the Hunter Line way more than I thought I was going to do when I first moved up here and I've become a bigger train fan than I ever thought I'd be. With more and more people being pushed out of Sydney and the cost of petrol rising persistently, folks should really try to think of more creative ways to utilize public transport in NSW rather than just defaulting to their car every single time.
i once had an NDIS client and his thing was trains he taught me so much about trains and especially the hunter line. we went to the library and looked up all the old stations and where the steam trains stops once stood. did a lot of driving through the hunter country side. was cool to look through the past on trains in the hunter thanks for the video.
Yes!😄 Finally, the Hunter Line in all it's weird glory!
Can hardly wait for Southern Highlands line👍
You and Amy are really funny
Really good pies at the cafe at lochinvar. Would be a long walk from the station tho
But something to fill the hour between trains....
These are my fav type of videos from Building Beautifully 🎉🎉🎉 Thank you!
Shout out to Amy's (hopefully ironically) worn hat 😂 Great video guys
Very enjoyable video. I used to drive trains along this line. I remember these wayside stop stations being built.
I'm impressed the line is still being serviced at all. In New Zealand nearly all our passenger rail is gone.
Another well researched and really interesting video. Well done. People who view it should be hitting the like button.
Thanks mate!
the hat may be in bad condition but its in better condition then the actual team so it could be worse
This was great! Wouldn't it be cool if all little old rail lines had this level of infrastructure and services for residents.
That would be the dream!
12:17 That's today! My B-Day! I am 22 now, and I just stumbled upon this video, today too.
can Amy please drop the fish themed fit i bc love it
Its the Wii play fishing game isn't it? 🥺
@@galliman123Yes it is
Women want me, fish fear me
You can find the hat by googling it, she designed and printed the shirt herself. She can't sell it because it uses the Wii Play fish haha.
It’s honestly so weird seeing you romp around my area of the woods. At uni I wrote an essay on why Victoria Street (my local) is the most important station in the Hunter. There’s some very interesting heritage resources around about the Hunter Line’s history, such as the bizarre Morpeth Branch.
Vic street is my local too! Do you remember the red rattlers back in the day? My grandad used to smoke in between carriages on those things haha
@@goldenhour5331 I quite literally was born a decade after the Red Rattlers were withdrawn lol.
Speaking of that particular area, I find it funny that Metford station is so close to the massive new Chisholm development, but you cannot access the station from that side as there is a private property that would have to be bought to allow for access.
But since until that went in it was all vacant land, I can see why that land was never kept public, with no access ever built.
vic st is the most important? wow woulda guessed it would be hamilton guess not
Sounds like quite the essay, would love to read it. And will definitely look more into the Morpeth Branch.
The NSW TrainLink Xplorer that runs from Moree, Armidale and Sydney DOES NOT STOP at Branxton, Greta and Lochinvar so Xplorer trains NP24 and NP23 run express from Singleton to Central
I enjoyed this video very much. I worked as clerk in the ticket office at Moree 1972 for about 7 years and Gunnedah for 18 months. I have a love of trains. I am now retired and living in Brisbane.
The Dungog Chronicle article is fully available on the Wayback Machine. Apparently it was difficult even for able-bodied people to ascend or descend safely, and "almost impossible" for a wheelchair, even a motorised one. It was estimated at a gradient of 1 in 3 (guidelines are between 1 in 20 and 1 in 14).
So...yeah.
fun vid mate.
ive taken the XPT from Maitland to Coffs Harbour and iirc, it took about 6 hrs to do. it was fun but got super boring with no internet + no phone charges for the trip 💀
but the pies on from the trains shop was delicious
every country town in australia has a great bakery, I have realised
@@srinednco yes indeed, nut i meant the shop inside the train itself haha
Wollarobba has a rural fire service station. I also recall a local former church being offered for sale there (on the Dungog Road). Wirragulla is near the junction of Dungog Road with the road to Clarence Town, so might get some "customers" from there. Curiously, "Wiragulla" station (note the spelling) is listed on a PTC list of NSW stations as "closed on 20/10/1975". Very odd; obviously not closed!
BTW the 32 Class shown at 9:35 is one of the only two 32s (then P Class) built as compounds. The experiment didn't work out well and both were soon change to standard types.
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Nice to see you with a gorgeous partner
Glad she enjoys your crazy stuff
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awesome video! i don't usually comment but this video was just excellently produced. graphics, details and the humour - absolutely nailed it this time.
Caught the train from Scone to Newcastle in the 90s - Recently drove to Allandale (where 2 blokes routinely got on with surfboards) and Belford, about where Hermitage Rd crosses the main line now… no sign of either station. The old station buildings at Lochinvar were still there in 1998. There were remnants of oakhampton a few years ago though last time I went for a look- just bits of the platform
I was surprised to learn how long the 620/720 railcars were in service. The reason is the Endeavours that were going to replace them ended up working the southern lines instead. However, you do occasionally see Endeavours on these lines.
I'm glad your hat reincarnated.
Fun. 🙂 I think this is my favourite video of yours so far this year.
omg I LOVE AMY's T SHIRT with the WII PLAY FISH. I NEEEED IT.
Hi, I used to travel most weekdays on the hunter line (Dungog to Maitland 2002-2003, then later Dungog to Warabrook 2016-2020) , the numbers you mention do seem a little low and I don't know if that counts concession tickets since from memory there were a semi decent number of people jumping on the morning train (6:30 am from dungog) and the late train (6:00 pm from maitland).
For me that train was a lifeline as it was how I could afford to travel to university.
Nice deep dive into an area very few of us get to see! I took a trip from Newcastle Interchange to Dungog one Saturday, the 5:49am and 1:11pm trains weren't practical, so I had to get the 9:33am XPT from Broadmeadow. I didn't find much to do there, the usual shops and cafe, a bakery, a brewery, and randomly a mountain bike park with lots of trees. I was ready to leave after an hour, but the next train was 5 hours later, so I walked around the bike park and then hung out at the brewery. It was a lovely scenic train ride but one visit is enough. The Scone line is now the only section of the Opal network I've never been to, but if it's anything like Dungog I'm in no rush.
The towns along the line to Scone are much more larger than that of Dungog. In saying that, they're still country towns, so this isn't much to do in them.
Double Decker trains, mmm... me like. Nice country-side video xD... Wellington has a large fleet of 100% Electric Double Decker Buses operated by Tranzurban on behalf of Wellington Regional Council... Sydney/NSW is kwl... ^u^
The editing was hilarious great vid🔥
I didn't have high expectations of this video but I must say it was fascinating. As a passenger every year or so on the North Coast XPT trains, I pass through many of these stations but didn't know they existed. The fact that they are still there is a tribute to the NSW Railways providing a public service and not thinking they are a just a business. Long may it remain.
Now you'll need to do the scone line. Scone to Nowra video!
Lochinvar ramps are ideal for skateboarding, except that you have to walk to the top of the ramp, before you can ride down it.
The small platforms are designed to take the two middle doors of a 620 railcar, where the Hunters and Endeavor, just one middle door fits on the platform.
In the late 90s i did an apprenticeship as a Railway Signal Electrician, we covered this entire area.
There was some places in the hunter that i never knew existed until we visited them to perform maintenance or for a failure!! Fun times!!!
Love these videos!
I used to catch those old rail motors 620/720 etc from Dungog to Maitland for high school.
The little stations well short platforms mostly used by school kids.
Also those old trains freezing in winter sweating in summer, also the windows and doors could be left open and no one ever fell off.
Can’t do that these days people are very silly.
as a former wheelchair user, ramps have a maximum incline they can be for accessibility, I think its something like 12deg. that's why they are so long.
The old Hunter rail cars for the ones that they used to use the trains use to be called the Silver City comet and they were the first trains to have drivers air conditioning
Couple of comments from a local
- East Maitland station is also weird. Victoria Street opened to replace the original East Maitland station and was the original terminus before the line was extended to Maitland and was an interchange with Maitland's Steam Tram network. It has one of the oldest surviving station buildings on the whole network. The new East Maitland station then opened just 400m away, but then the old one never closed and got renamed to Victoria Street. Today East Maitland mostly serves the old Maitland Gaol which is still used as an event venue, and also Grossman High School. There is also a disused platform next to the parking lot showing where the old branch line to Morpeth Branch Line used to be
- Victoria Street is the busiest station after Newcastle Interchange on the Hunter Line. It serves the town Centre of East Maitland and the was once a Tram Line between East Maitland and Telarah. It now also serves the Maitland Hospital.
- Technically three stations serve East Maitland (Metford, Victoria Street, and East Maitland), three for Maitland (High Street, Maitland, Telarah)
- Tarro is also a fairly underused station that I don't really understand
- Hexham does get a bit more use from shift workers as it's in a mostly industrial area. You'll see more people early morning and late at night.
-Sandgate is next to Newcastle's largest cemetery and there used to be a small branch line with a station inside the cemetery. A bit like Lochinvar it is a hassle for pedestrians.
- Lochinvar is two KMs from the town, but since they removed the level crossing you have to walk over the road bridge, then up the ramps to the other platform. It's crazy. It may get more useful later because of all the housing developments happening in the area.
- Wirragulla is the only station not voiced by Taylor Owynns
- Mindaribba and Paterson (kinda) serve the nearby Tocal Agricultural College. Mindaribba is named after the local tribe from the Wonnarua people. As you said in the video Midaribba is super weird because it's only accessible from one side of a passing loop
- For just $2.80 on a weekend, you can use your Opal Card to travel from Scone all the way to Bathurst, Goulburn, or Bomaderry
Thank you for all these stats! Fascinating.
@@BuildingBeautifully I guess the main reason for the Hunter Line is Historical Intertia. Mindaribba, Hilldale, Wallarobba, and Wirragulla were all once much larger stations with station buildings on them, much like Paterson is today. When people moved to cars they were demolished and reduced to the small platforms they are today. I'm guessing TNSW don't spend that much maintaining them so they're allowed to stay
A great idea for your next holiday would be the Byron Bay Solar Train.
Amy in her best fishing attire I see.
Loch-in-vAR...the r is not silent....and there is a LockinvEr
You are indeed fortunate that trains still run on the historic Hunter line...there are many , many other historic lines in NSW that are overgrown with weeds.
The lines are there for freight, not passengers!
Coal keeps the main north one of the busiest lines in Australia
I did a much more indepth video (linked below) about all these stations between Maitland and Dungog, it was quite the interesting day out and definitely learnt some stuff. I believe Wirragulla was so close to closure that no voice announcements were made and it was removed off most timetables and other railway information posters, and that's the reason as to why it was voiced by someone else in that announcement. Wallarobba station is one of confusion. As someone else mentioned you can get access to the article using the Wayback Machine. Apparently the community (of less than 200 people) sent enough petitions and protested the government enough to make the station properly accessible. The hilarious side of this is that the platform wasn't even extended to be a full 2 carriages, which I mean if you're going to make it full accessible may as well right?, but the entry road wasn't even paved (still gravel) and the only paved parking space is a disabled spot. When I visited last year the local roads of the town were atrocious, with it being more of a situation of watching out for the road in the pothole. It was dragging the government to make the station, barely served, accessible. Since then, the station has infrequently been used. I feel as a lot of data of Opal journeys do come from transport enthusiasts just travelling to these remote stations. Oh and don't get me started on Lochinvar, the design there is just bizarre and confusing. It must've worked out cheaper to build a giant ramp (and once again, not even bother extending the platform or improving service) than it was to build stairs and a lift.
Link to my video:
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LOL... love your work!
The combo fishing hat and t-shirt is a very strong look.
I had grandparents who lived at Wallarobba, and I’d often see the tiny platform there, but I never realised it was used for getting on and off trains, I just thought it was a maintenance thing.
Great videos!
When are you showing us the sydney cycleways? And when are you doing a video on how to fix western Sydney congestion?
Also penrith is doing a new bus stop program. Could you look at how we can do bus stops for hot climates without hostile street furniture?
That thumbnail 🤣🤣🤣
So the 'goods shed' at Paterson (also Martins Creek) was actually the signal box before CTC signalling went in, and the 'station residence' was in fact, the good shed! Great vid.
All those ridiculously long ramps are governed by an Australian Standard which nominates maximum gradients and ramp lengths, among other things, for disabled access purposes. Plus if they have to choose between a ramp and a stairway, then the ramp has to be built for disabled access equality purposes
These stations are perfect though because it means future suburbs can grow. One day we'll hopefully look at a line like this and see it as a frequent use line. Edit: also bro this is one of your best videos you should do more of these. If you want good station content with mad history you should check out the Bendigo line in Victoria (Melbourne -> Bendigo) and The Rosewood Line (Ipswich to Rosewood) in Queenland.
Not really. Any growth that happens in that area does so with no thought or connection whatsoever to the trains. The mentality in the area is not one of public transport, and the heavy use by freight means there’s no capacity to increase service to anything useful. It’s a shame.
@karLcx the entire area is building up surprisingly quickly. First the towns arround need to grow though.
@@varno yes they are. But as I said, accessibility to stations seems never to come up, and in order to have useful frequency many millions would need to be spent adding capacity in the form of track duplication
@karLcx I mean, yes, track duplication does need to be done eventually, but as there is an existing right of way, they can do so whenever they want. When building a new line the costs are generally when you need to buy someone else's house.
That announcement at Wallarobba sounds like GLaDOS!
I remember my first time catching the hunter line from hamilton to maitland and was fascinated with the single decker diesel trains having been used to the tangaras and waratahs from living on both the t4 and t8 lines. I always love watching the scenery go past with the paddocks and mountains when travelling on the line. I also find it fascinating how both maitland and east maitland both have 2 stations and find connections to them rather lackluster. Last time i went up i ended up walking up to the maitland riverfront for half an hour simply waiting for the bus that goes down to Kurri Kurri. Its also sad to see the lack of usage of the lines out to scone and dungong which have a lot of potential for urbanisation to help spread the population out of Sydney. Despite those negatives you got to love yhe utilisation that the line gets despite the population that lives near it.
Great video. Eventually you’ll probably find more development along the Maitland to Dungog corridor which means the stations will become more frequented (and probably even extended and updated).
The ramp at Lochinvar is truly strange. I read people mentioning something about the gradient of land being the reason. But surely they could have just made a level crossing nearby to cut costs.
It's a miracle these stations are still open
Incredible.
I'm watching it from my partner's place in her little town in California, which is closer to San Francisco than any of the stations you showed are to Sydney. It has a railway line and a station and 4000 residents, but zero trains per day, and not even any buses since covid.
Hell, even the state capital, not far from here, doesn't get many more trains to San Francisco each day than the stations in this video.
So while the late trains are frustrating, I'll take NSW Trains over Caltrain or Amtrak any day… even though the trains that do turn up here have power points at the seats, like nearly every other long-distance passenger train I've taken outside Australia in the past 10 years.
The use of 2 car single deck trains is so fascinating to me, throughout Sydney trains typically have 8 cars and are double decked which is what I'm overwhelmingly used to. It's very cute and fits with the rest of the line very well.
Having caught this train a few times, it's absolutely perfect for what it serves. I personally think that running 2-car sets like this in a lot more places (including currently un-used lines) would massively benefit the NSW rail system. Catching this train from Newcastle to Maitland is actually faster than driving due to the high speeds the train can get on the Hexham straight so it's a shame it's somewhat underutilised.
@@mrawesome9219 Yeah, a lot of the underutilisation is due to a massive lack of investment in all public transport in the Hunter region. My nearest bus stop is at least a 15 minute walk from my house, and it is only on an hourly frequency. Couple that with only hourly off peak trains, no wonder people drive...
Also, I don't know the economics of it, but I wish the line was electrified at least to Maitland, would love a through service from Central on an hourly or so basis in peak.
Next time do this using the train service 😂😂 thanks for a great video
I've actually seen some people get on at Wallarobba one time... I wonder where they are now...
i live near wirragulla, its quite useful to have train out here if you want to go to newcastle one day
Thumbnail was soo inspiring honestly…
Jokes aside, great video as always Sharath!
(by the way, there’s a tiny scratch on your new wallabies hat, you need to get rid of it right this very second)
10:35 there’s 7 tracks side by side at Hexham. If you include the Aurizon rail yard there’s 14 tracks side by side. Then there’s the holding road just north of Hexham station too.
Ahh, Hilldale! My home town.
Not wrong about Lochinvar station being quiet. I’ve been driving coalies along this line for 14 years and seen people at Lochinvar twice.
Pretty sure that bridge was built to make it wheelchair accessible without the maintenance of an elevator. It would be nice to have some stairs too. I’ve done the ramp walk about 3 times
Pedantic I know 🙂but the High Street station building was not replaced by that shelter.
There was a small brick structure in between the two others.
We used to spend many a weekend on that station 🙂
Loved the video. Fantastic watch as always.
even this gets more train service than las vegas
Excellent
Accessibility is great.
Now we need a video on the rest of the line to Newcastle and the Newcastle Light Rail!
Bruh! I was wanting someone to do this video or tell me more about it.
The local panel at martins creek was able to be switched in and out to obtain the ground frame key to get in and out of quarry
you should try wonderbyne. very tiny station between Hornsby and Woy Woy. . NSW. Once held a sand stone sculpture event I think they may be still there.
The pedestrian overpass at Paterson is purely for the primary school on the other side so kids can cross from town to school without getting squished.
At paterson that shed was the goods shed where the rail motor group is and on the platform is the old signal box
aaaa. The "DING" sound is the same as iPhone message tone. I can't stop looking at my phone at every ding. :D
12:30 Those levers are called “Groundframes” which are released by an operators key and depending on how many levers are connected to the groundframe, seperate levers can be used to unlock one set of levers on one side of the groundframe and one lever on each groundframe is used to operate the MPI (Mechanical Points Indicator) white bar attached to the relevant groundframe