Interview With Former Mongols Leader "Mooch"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Big interview with former Mongols leader Justin DeLoretto, aka "Mooch!" Justin rode with 1% clubs like the Vagos and eventually became a regional leader in the Mongols. Today he's an author, scholar, and public health professional.
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“The only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future.”
Oscar Wilde
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I've never heard a guy so casual about starting a band and playing around the country
That is so ridiculously bad ass
100% correct with the difference between the OG generation and the now. I was a full patch in 1988 and still can't comprehend what it's all about now. I've been slowly workin my way out the last 5yrs since I got outa the joint just because of this. I actually moved from Waterbury Ct to a tiny town in kentucky to get the outs quicker
East Haven CT here.
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Nigga, this Pagans MC!
And he mentions OBHC and Most Hated, FSU and DMS. I love this man!
Great interview!
When I was younger I ran Suicidal and we were going at it with SGV Unity, it was on sight 24/7 in the late 80’s and early 90’s So Cal. The Vagos got word of the conflicts and got a demand to both groups to squash it because they had heads from both gangs representing Vagos.
I was always on good terms with Robert from SGV Unity (RIP). The rest of them at the time were getting hemmed up while incarcerated: Surenos made Mexican heads from Unity cover up their punk and anti racist tattoos with Sureno and South Sider tattoos.
S/O to SFS Family Skins. 👍🏾
This is probably one of the best interviews with Mooch. It’s always the same questions with him. You guys asked the good questions
I was gonna make this same comment. Every interview is always the same and I figured this would be just like those. Absolutely not. They asked questions that haven't been asked b4 and when they did ask a question that had been asked b4 they worded it a little different and mooch was able to word his answers different
Great interview, bro!! Love that ENTOMBED shirt. "LEFT HAND PATH" is the reason I fell in love with DEATH METAL. RIP LG!🤘🏼👊🏽🤘🏼👊🏽🤘🏼
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As a former club guy I love watching these videos. The politics from club to club is fascinating
By far the best interview, I've seen 2 other interviews with Mooch and this is #1 🤘
Great Podcast, Great Selection of Guests! Always love seeing Mob & Outlaw content. Keep up the content! lovin it
It’s part of the story of America thanks for shining a light on history
Yea you guys definitely need more biker (outlaw clubs) content! Good Show!
Great interview.
I find it interesting that Mooch, along with other MC members when growing up, was a part of anti-racist skinhead groups but ended up joining MC clubs that don't allow Blacks to join their clubs. Scott mentioned the Mongols have a lot of diversity within their ranks, but I don't consider predominantly Mexican and White members within a club diverse. I feel the Chosen Few to be a diverse MC. That said, some say there are no Blacks allowed in certain MCs because of street/jail politics, but how does one explain the first couple of white guys who joined the Chosen Few when at first, they were an all-Black MC? It must have been extremely difficult for them, especially in the 60s; however difficult it was, they still succeeded. And those same politics existed back then as well.
Whites just built different.
@@Buhshaun Not sure what you stated has to do with my comment.
@@CousinRabbit that's right.
Well that's a two way street......Can we join an all black MC ?
I’d live a block away from a motorcycle club, but no way in hell would I feel safe a block from a street gang. And if law enforcement was honest with themselves, they’d say the same
Scott, you need to work on not cutting Jimmy off. Geesh.
Five minutes in and I love this guy, I grew up in the eighties listening to the same music.
Nice Outlaw archive jacket. That IG has done a lot to share awesome American history
This was one of the best Mooch interviews he’s done you guys had some great points and Mooch is such a well spoken articulate humble guy and it really shows getting down to how there really is a bad name slapped on a lot of these clubs but as the younger generations are beginning to take over in these clubs and are well aware they can’t be living that old school outlaw life style anymore the pigs are gonna run out of ways to take them down because there is nothing nothing to take them down for and like you guys said that’s when they start doing shady shit like creating issues on the inside with informants and so on
Anyways much love and much love to Mooch keep doing you brother and can’t wait for the book to come out man 👊🤙
Thank you so much homie
I just started watching this interview, but already, I know this guy (being interviewed) has an excellent taste in music. 💯
The show keeps getting better and better!
They sound like agents to me. The pod cast is a good way to collect data on how mc’s run
Lol. I think you’re an agent collecting info from TH-cam.
Great show! Ive seen a lot of Mongols in Fort Worth lately. Typically id only see The Boozefighters or Bandidos. Either way great show you guys!
The Montana Pagans story on your page is inaccurate. The Warlocks were not involved but another club called the Warlords.
Straight up man!! I a dork & was listed as a “known associate” in a Mongols RICO case many years ago. I was friends with a couple of the guys mentioned here- some of the best f’n friends I’ve ever had that I enjoyed surfing with & sharing holiday family dinners with!
TBH I was into more dirt than some of they were!.. wearing a patch ≠ criminal man!!
There's even south African hells angels
Mooch is the man much respect man🤙🏻
How cool! He was a Traditional Skinhead in his youth. Same with myself, skinhead stays with you your whole life. I identify in my heart, as a skinhead. But I live my adult life as an Engineer and Educator. The Working Class will always have my support. I also love he talks about the LA crews. I grew up in the 90’s San Diego Skinhead scene… I miss those days very much.
I remember after i read Jay Dobyns book about his time undercover with The Hells Angels...I remember thinking "that's all you got?..one loser meth head biker selling 1 gun"? seemed like the whole investigation was a whole bunch of "not much"
Cool ill check that out sonny's Book was great matt
I was a gang officer and it is absolutely taught to LE that 1% clubs are organized crime. I knew not everyone was a criminal because I knew a few 1% bikers who had legit jobs and just enjoyed the lifestyle. Whenever I had to deal with a group I’d ask for the Sgt at arms and go through the ranks it went sooooo much smoother.
Cool interview 😎
Thank you!
Man, that Entombed album is a Death Metal classic!
Can you guys do a video on the Detroit Highwaymen?
I like Mooch he seems pretty calm n a thinker and knows how to show respect and do things rite. And glad he was his law suite. Being a biker doesn't make u dumb lol like w.t.f. And he listens well so im sure he was good at his job as well.
I seen Mongols in St. Louis about 3 years ago. Maybe more. It was near Lumiere getting off MLK Bridge. I was like idk they established here. I seen it a few more times. All but once it was a single guy. Maybe you? Lol either way. The story you have is Fascinating. I don't do the gang thing but I respect everyone. I hope you get everything you want in life. Stay up!!
These guys love hearing themselves talk even stepping over each other
I support the mongols MC club
I don't care if it's documented that there's a hit out on you !!! You never speak on that with names of any organization involved!!! These guys have no code these days... Sad shit !!!!
Scott is 100 percent correct on the outfit outlaws link with Sarno and mark polchan the guest and cohost were clueless
Great interview you guys! I really enjoyed this one 😮
Awesome! Thank you!
Great show fellas, keep up the good work. 👍
VF is widespread
There are some here in San Diego, most stay in Klantee
Dope entombed shirt
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Mooch I love you brother.
Retired 1% with a statement from observation..
Most clubers are not bikers
Best interview with mooch, you guys ask all the right questions
Thank you!!
Great Interview & Special Guest Selection! Keep Up The Good Work, Fella's...
Also, I'm Only At The Beginning About 15 Minutes In, But I'm Wondering If He Speaks On Lil' Dave, And If They Still Have A Relationship? I Believe At One Point, They Were Really Close?
Once you've seen one interview, they are all the same.. pretty sure he's actually got a scrip for most of this stuff. Literally word for word.
These guys are outa line with there saying they know everything. It would be pretty crazy talking about all this business and living in the said clubs turff
When the demand for crime exceeds the supply.
Wow. I have seen some of the group here in Denver, and now I really want to be a supporter. They are a very respectful group of people, and deserve more respect.
@MikeRamsey5405so are you suggesting that they don't be respectful? And we should not support respectful people?
This is the best , MOST AUTHENTIC and most IMPORTANT interview that has ever happen to the Outlaw Biker Community.
Thank You…
Hey I'm from philia 😭and I'm not in no club but I knew some pagans including a dude I grew up with he wasn't my best friend but man could he kick some ass and he took some ass whippings like a man back when we were young we wanted to be gangsters because of are ethnicity and every time I think back to some stuff I did or we did he was always there more then i can remember so love and respect to semost 1#knockout a patch is earned never given he told me the man makes the patch the patch doesn't mAke the man
Simple question NC who joins what MC it cool it all on two wheels
The media creates chaos
Can you guys interview Black MC members, I honestly feel like his take on race was tainted
White and Hispanic have historically been able to ally one another when against other races primarily in prison so I wonder what it’s like for someone who isn’t white or Hispanic
Amazing interview!! Mooch is always extremely entertaining and insightful!! 👏🏽👏🏽
No one ever asks how cowardly it is to go from one major mc to another. And how can you trust one one who does that. He down plays the vagos how they weren't that big go to show you how watered down those 2 clubs are to be ok to exchange members for #s. You can never be a top outlaw anything and be ok with your members going to another top mc. Upgrading to a big club from smaller mc is a different story.. can you call him a patch chaser like a female chasing the patch from green to black
I appreciate your feedback and for you taking the time to watch the episode. Although your post contradicted itself, I still understood the point you’re trying to make. Since you likely have never been in a club, I’ll let you know that in the 1%er world it is relatively common for members of non 1%er clubs to patch over to 1%er clubs. It happens very often. Back in the 50’s and 60’s members even went from major club to major club and it was common practice. I was a Mongol for almost 15 years. It’s usually guys who haven’t even spent 1 year in a major club who leave comments like this about others who spent their lives doing something guys like you just talk about. Again, thank you for the feedback and keep following
@@MondaysWithMooch he’s not wrong about you downplaying the vagos. I’m 2008 the vagos were everybit as big and respected as the mongols. both were primarily Southern California clubs. Good interview overall.
@@1990-u4n wasn’t down playing it at all. Just like you said, they were primarily in Southern California and not as big as they are now. And they were not wearing a 1%er diamond back then. Both of these things are true. In the 15 years I spent in the Mongols more than two dozen Vagos patched over to Mongols over the years. It was not as uncommon as these people commenting seem to think. I have no reason to down play it. I left one club and joined another and then remained an active member for almost 15 years and am not ashamed of it at all. It is often people on the outside looking in that make these comments about how patching over is uncommon etc.
@@1990-u4n I didn’t mean for that to sound like I was arguing with you. I appreciate you checking out the show and for your opinion
@@MondaysWithMooch no worries man you seem like a real down to earth dude I’m not trying to argue with you either. I have seen patch overs several times in my life and the only people’s business it is is between the person and the club.
Man a lot of my boston n nh people. Are angels. N lot of 81 supporters. Outlaws were not our type.
ENTOMED 🤘🤘 Rock On!
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@@originalgangsterspod I saw them Live in Western Mass in the 90’s. Bad ass Mo’ Fo’s
I got to shake hands an everything. 👍
Finally Detroit in the news
Hell yeah punk rock
Nice Entombed shirt. LHP!
that federal leader a the mongols LOLOL
Mooch is a great dude.
Is a copyright considered an asset?
If so, can the Government cease all of one’s assets to include the copyrights that one owns??
It was actually ruled to be a collective membership mark and so it did not qualify for forfeiture
😂 I went to high school with JD lol getting old
Was he a leader of the club or a chárter in the club?
Badass entombed left hand path shirt
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Awesome show except for Scott...
First time watching this show. Cool interview, great guest. Both your noses are a little brown though.
It’s crazy how corrupt the justice system is
Being in a "1%er" club is by definition- outlaw, aka criminal, so I'm not quite sure how this "we're not criminals" argument makes any sense
Outlaw ≠ criminal my friend, you need to educate yourself
Is he out bad ??
Yea they are choir boys on motorcycles 🏍 🤣 🙄 🤧
What a truey great dude POSITIVE REMARKABLE HELPFUL AMAZING INDIVIDUAL. . GEM OF AN INTERVIEW GUYS GREAT CHANNEL
This program really cracks me up these two guys think they really know something
great guest
Bro this guy is saying that bikers dont commit crimes, Lolo
Entombed ❤
Mooch is cool
He's HOT!
Wow this is my xboyfriend I was always wondering what happened to him ..
Yet again glorifying the wrong things
Joke
Mooch is a great guy
Did you know any Galloping Goose, they use to be a big club around Kansas City, Mike Holmes Fitzwater, and R G Waters were two longtime members, R G was killed in the early 1980s when a car was turning left and he tried to pass it , RIP R G Waters, anyway what about the Goose
I need a family and bros on bikes are my family what is my saposid real family don't give a shit about me my life with my biker bros has been a great blast respect to all my bros
How about just standing alone we're born an die alone
The truth lies in the middle , bikers are going to say that they are innocent, where as the police are going to say they are bad outlaws. I have seen good ones and bad ones. But most have fought and some have died, for the freedom that we enjoy. Reality is about 75 percent are disenfranchised veterans that just want to forget the scars of war and sometimes the government that almost killed them. Thank you to the veterans and godspeed
OUTLAW ARCHIVE should change the font on his merch.....I guess the maggot font wasn't cool enough