Ep. 34 // "Fantasy of Going Back" w/ Rabbi Moshe Greenwald

Rabbi Moshe Greenwald grew up on shlichus in Long Beach, CA and is on shlichus today in Downtown Los Angeles.
In this episode, we discuss his childhood memories of coming to 770 for Pesach, his coming of age during the turbulence of 1992 and the questions he's had to wrestle with since.
The conversations leads us to questions about the possibility of a Chossid's living with uncertainty.

[@WrennWrenn]

On the first official day of his Nesius, the Rebbe mentioned the possibility of Moshiach from the grave [the last line of Basi Legani 5711]. It's understandable that we could not hear let alone process this concept until after Gimmel Tammuz. Brocho Vehatzlocho.

[@SPNDS1980]

@@WrennWrenn Can you send a link?

[@WrennWrenn]

@@SPNDS1980 13 Shvat 5711 - Likkutei Sichos Vol 2 p. 517 "..."People have asked me how can I say the Rebbe (referring to his father in law, the previous Chabad Rebbe who had since passed), will lead us out of exile? This is contrary to the sequential order of events!
Although chronologically, the order of events is 1) the arrival of Moshiach 2) the rebuilding of Temple 3) the ingathering of the exiles and finally 4) the resurrection of the dead, nevertheless, the resurrection of CERTAIN individuals, has occurred in the past, and will also occur PRIOR to the final redemption.”

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@@WrennWrenn thank you. he does not bring there it appears any Jewish source to suppprt this but rather just makes the statement, no?
תנ"ך, ש"ס, חז"ל או גמרא, מדרש, הזוהר הקדוש... עפעס משהו

[@WrennWrenn]

@@---tx9xx for Chassidim the Rebbe's assertion is enough.
Here are some sources:
Rashi on Daniel 12.12: "moshiach is destined to be revealed, concealed and revealed again"
Rabeinu Bachaye Shmos 5.22: "moshiach will appear, dissapear and appear again"
Midrash Rabbah Bamidbar 11.2 "just like moshe - the first moshiach - appeared, disappeared and then reappeared so too the final moshiach"
Yeshuos Meshicho page 104 "don't be amazed that Moshiach could be one of those who rise at the time of Tchiyas HaMeisim for this has already been considered in Gemara Sanhedrin"
Chayim Vital Arba Meios Shekel Kesef page 68: "moshiach will be taken to shomayim and return and be revealed for all to see"
Sdei Chemed vol 7: "if we are worthy moshiach will arrive miraculously as the Gemara says - if he is from the grave he is like Daniel"
there is a Sefer Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach by Aharon Yaakov Lieberman - it shows how Moshiach from the grave is a legit perspective. . you can read it here for free shmoishelmoshiach dot com - it has approbations from Rav Zef Leff and Rav Yitzchak Breitowitz

[@WrennWrenn]

Chaim Fogelman's song is about trusting the Rebbe, what's to hate about it?

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because one is meant to be aboit trusting G-d Almighty, the Erbeshter! and not in any creation, even pir alovr and deceased tzadikim and rabanim

[@sholom11]

Shalushudos?! Feh!

[@---tx9xx]

3 seudos oneg shabbos deoraysa how can you stay you stick to Yiddishkeit Al pi shulchan Aruch and go cancel this. Also, it seems to me that being “on shlichus” is like the Chabad version of the traditional Jewish “learning in kolel” ie koleman