Nice video. The slight height difference and possibly the lugs may contribute to the difference in sound, but I would put my bet on the age of the wood. It would be interesting if we could do a time machine comparison with the older drum when it was new and how it sounds today! I love both my old and new Dynasonics, but my fave is my Cleveland era Powertone.
You can definitely hear the difference. I have a wrap wrinkle in my new Dynasonic reissued kinda mad about it how it left the QC part of the factory I don’t know.
Nice video. Drum dial aside the old Dyna sounds about a half step lower than the new Dyna. I actually confirmed this while using a tuner phone app as your video played. Nevertheless, nice job on the video. I really enjoyed it. It was great to hear the back and forth comparison.
@PaulGrahamRoss Yes, agreed regarding the tuning. It was immediately noticeable. I'm not saying that it detracted from this comparison, though. It was great to hear these two side-by-side. Regardless of the tuning, to my ears, they each sound quite different. The original seemed much more open, lively, dynamic, and articulate, and I much preferred it, being that we could easily muffle it just a bit to achieve a similar sound as the newer reissue. IIRC, the lugs on the new reissue are made with a different metal composition as well, as the original lugs had a tendency to crack if the tension rods were over tightened. Correct me if I'm wrong about that. @Drumthink Was the snare side head the same on both drums as well? While it may not be the case, from what I heard regarding the articulation and dynamics, I would tend to guess that the original had a thinner Diplomat concert snare side head rather than an Ambassador. I'm also curious about the type and quality of the spring steel used in the actual snare wires themselves. There can be quite a large audible difference, as can also be heard when playing concert snare drums like your Black Swamp Multisonic that have a variety of snare "wires" to choose from. I have several of the top end Pearl concert snares with the same feature. I'm sure the composition of the metal in the hoops are different as well. It would be very interesting to take the Hoops off of both drums and suspend them and strike them like a triangle to hear their different pitch and resonance/decay properties. You could definitely hear a difference in the cross/side stick, but that may also be due to the quality and age of the wood shells, too. All that aside, thank you for the effort, and I'm looking forward to watching and listening to your other snare battle videos. Cheers!
I have a new B+B Lug Dyno..White Pearl....Sounds as good or better than any of the older ones I've had.My next one will be the new Brass 5X14....Love that....My friend Bob Crelin is the chief designer of all the new Rogers drums.
I understand that this was made in a simple way. Nonetheless, everything, from the commentary to the playing, was excellent. Well done.
Nice video. The slight height difference and possibly the lugs may contribute to the difference in sound, but I would put my bet on the age of the wood. It would be interesting if we could do a time machine comparison with the older drum when it was new and how it sounds today! I love both my old and new Dynasonics, but my fave is my Cleveland era Powertone.
Love it, the Snare Battle is a great idea and the presentation is amazing!
I have 2 reissue dynas and a 68 wood shell. While I haven't done a side by side demo, the 68 is my favorite. Great video!
You can definitely hear the difference. I have a wrap wrinkle in my new Dynasonic reissued kinda mad about it how it left the QC part of the factory I don’t know.
Very well done.
Both sound fantastic.
Thank you
Many thanks!
Love my two new Dynasonics (5 and 6.5).
Nice video. Drum dial aside the old Dyna sounds about a half step lower than the new Dyna. I actually confirmed this while using a tuner phone app as your video played. Nevertheless, nice job on the video. I really enjoyed it. It was great to hear the back and forth comparison.
@PaulGrahamRoss
Yes, agreed regarding the tuning. It was immediately noticeable.
I'm not saying that it detracted from this comparison, though. It was great to hear these two side-by-side.
Regardless of the tuning, to my ears, they each sound quite different.
The original seemed much more open, lively, dynamic, and articulate, and I much preferred it, being that we could easily muffle it just a bit to achieve a similar sound as the newer reissue.
IIRC, the lugs on the new reissue are made with a different metal composition as well, as the original lugs had a tendency to crack if the tension rods were over tightened. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
@Drumthink
Was the snare side head the same on both drums as well?
While it may not be the case, from what I heard regarding the articulation and dynamics, I would tend to guess that the original had a thinner Diplomat concert snare side head rather than an Ambassador.
I'm also curious about the type and quality of the spring steel used in the actual snare wires themselves.
There can be quite a large audible difference, as can also be heard when playing concert snare drums like your Black Swamp Multisonic that have a variety of snare "wires" to choose from. I have several of the top end Pearl concert snares with the same feature.
I'm sure the composition of the metal in the hoops are different as well. It would be very interesting to take the Hoops off of both drums and suspend them and strike them like a triangle to hear their different pitch and resonance/decay properties.
You could definitely hear a difference in the cross/side stick, but that may also be due to the quality and age of the wood shells, too.
All that aside, thank you for the effort, and I'm looking forward to watching and listening to your other snare battle videos.
Cheers!
It makes the new ones inexpensive, at a third of the price..
It could be the tuning but the vintage sounds a little crisper.
I have a new B+B Lug Dyno..White Pearl....Sounds as good or better than any of the older ones I've had.My next one will be the new Brass 5X14....Love that....My friend Bob Crelin is the chief designer of all the new Rogers drums.
Love your channel
It makes the new Dynasonics great value, at one third of the price..
Great video but could you do a video on how you set up the frame on your Dynasonic? Thanks.
I'll see what I can do. Might be a bit, but I'll put it on my list! Thanks for watching.
The new snare drums have a gasket under the lugs....I don't think it makes much of a difference....I've been argued with about that. Ralph Onofrio
Thanks for sharing this knowledge. In your opinion, how wood dynas would compare to the brass one ?
A wood drum is typically softer, cuts less. I'll do a snare battle next month with the wood dyna vs the COB dyna.
The newer one sounds better from my position. But neither sound better than my 6.5x14 DW.