Why Are Larger SSDs Faster?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2017
- Have you ever noticed that higher-capacity SSDs often give you a speed boost? Why is that?
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Today I learned: teenagers are expensive, relatively speaking.
What about teenagers who are not related to me?
Pipe2DevNull Ayyyyyy
Teens are expensive from a certain point of view.
*roughly speaking
it's more expensive to get rid of a teenager then to keep one trust me.
Point taken: SSD = fries. Thank you techquickie, now I'm going to snack on a hard drive while installing my new fry.
no, you snack on computer Chips. you have to fry your hard drive first to soften it up.
You PC masta race are so stoopid. I could just eat my PS4 right out the box.
Yea man I'm tired of shops giving me soft and dull fries. Now finally I'll have some Solid state fries I mean drives.
@@nuke2625 The old floppy fries I uh mean drives are just so floppy and gross. Thank god you at least can easily hard drives. I don't love how hard they are but better than floppy.
ah yes a large order of Phish and (com) chips
Linus was probably just really hungry when they filmed this
Burgers, fries, potatoes, sodas, teenagers.
As a type 1 diabetic, I thank you for helping me to pick out what my headstone will say in the event I die due to complications from my disease, "died of 'Beetus".
always
What if im type 1 diabetic and dont want to live that long?
Dunestorm "Had type 1 diabetes since his 20's"
Type 1 diabetes is caused by the destruction of your insulin producing cells by your immune system and has very little thing to do with your calorie consumption.
""Died o' 'Beetus"
3:10 "Silicon is cheap, it's basically sand"
Can't wait for the episode where Linus tech tips grows a microchip grade silicon crystal.
and scale up
I love when more storage is also cheaper per amount of storage as well as faster! Usually, there are downsides and you have to give something up, but this seems like a win as long as you have the money to go bigger.
Wow, thank you for explaining Economies of Scale.
Economicquickie
Out of most of the fast as possible videos, this one was quality. Clear, concise and cutting edge information. Thanks again Linus.
“Spike” from Christmas with the Kranks, did a good job of explaining the subject.
no cut for the tunnelbear ad... damn, this really makes me think about how many takes they need for one quicky video like this. But linus definitely is amazing at presenting stuff on video and acts super naturally. Good stuff LMG and mr sebastian
Not to mention larger drives are more likely to have a larger amount of free space (for a longer amount of time) which does affect the drive's health in he long run.
For some reason I enjoyed this TechQuickie edit more than any other one that I've seen so far (and I watch them all). The script was smooth and clear, no silly "facepalm" jokes or puns, straight to the point and easy to understand even for non-IT enthusiasts. I don't know if you guys did something different this time but please follow this path for future ones.
Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Needs to be mentioned that even for denser HDD you get more throughput (given same rpm and quality electronics)
that’s what I assumed. Thanks for confirming. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you to Islam and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
But only to a point. These days, most HDDs cap out at about a gigabit or two, even though the storage density increases enough that it might take a day or a few to write a drive from start to finish.
@@techno1561 yeah or 4 for the high end dual actuator drives. At least there is some capacity in SAS3 to grow. I think there are no SAS4 HDD, yet? But of course the usefulness for HDD is shrinking by the minute.
Commercial SSDs today have extremely big longevity periods (estimated by the manufacturer, that more often prove to be low). I do wonder on whether the first commercial SSD of this generation has already, officially kicked the bucket.
1:50 He walah!
Marc Fuschino hahaha
Très bien!
voilla!
Mashal Khan I know but he prononced WALAH. funny guy
i GET the joke, chill
The speed can be increased by making multiple low-capacity and separate flash circuits on a single large high-density chip. It just needs more pins for each separate flash area on the large chip.
simple answer to the first part: the storage modules in an ssd work like raid0. pull minimal amount of info from multiple locations
QUESTION: I have a 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SATA SSD. And I have an 10TB Western Digital 7200 external HD. When I try to transfer a large group of digital files of about 140GB in size from the SSD to the 10TB external HD, it transfers very quickly at a steady rate of 180MB per second the entire time. However, when I use that same 1TB SSD to try to transfer those same files to an internal Western Digital 7200 HD that is only 500GB in size, it quickly transfers at about 160MB per second for about or or two seconds, and then almost immediately drops down to about 70MB per second, which is much slower than when the files are transferred to the other hard drive. Do you know why this is?
You are very clear at explaining stuff, Great work!
Soo my PC is from 2008 and is still running the original hard drive and its making weird ticking noises so i bought another hard drive and its a terabyte and just so happens its from 2008 also, will it be faster than my old hard drive?
On 2nd minute when Linus spoke about higher capacity means more memory modules I thought that they run in some kind of NAND-Raid, thus, information is written/read simultaneously to/from each chip.
Wow. One of his first videos that actually explained something. Why do I keep watching him then? I think I'm addicted.
The beginning resonates with me on a terrifying level
The economics term for the infrastructure involved in setting up a factory or other business place (in your example, a fast-food joint) is called the “fixed cost.” The material inputs per unit of production (silicon for flash memory modules, potatoes for French fries, etc.) are “marginal costs.”
So if i install my samsung 860 evo ssd in my new 128gb ssd laptop it'll perform faster along with my 32gb ram im going to order ?
Hey linus why does my gtx550ti has very high quality on vga but looks like shit thru hdmi is it normal?
then that begs the question, what is the bandwidth cap of those controller modules? aka, how many is too many vnand chips
Random question: i have 2 1TB HDDs.. i’m having trouble detecting the two at the same time in explorer. Sometimes the two are visible, and most of the time only one appears. Does this have something to do with my mobo? Do some mobos cant carry 2 1TB HDDs? Thanks so much guys! My motherboard is gigabyte F2A68HM-DS2..
How does work with M.2? There isn't much room for additional modules.
Economics lesson on Linus tech tips? I dig it.
honestly didn't already know about this, thx for the info. & the tunnelbear
Brilliant video. Well written and good information.
Thank you.
Hey Linus, I wanna see a video topic about download accelerator. Which one to use and why some website disallow it and so on. Why browser download are slower than download accelerator? Thanks
SSDs are faster 'cos they have VTEC and 2JZ kicking in
The SSD manufacturers are hiding something from us
Really well explained, even if I knew this level of detail already :P
What has held true for me over HDDs and SSDs is that the sweet spot of Storage vs Price has been in the £120 mark. Right now it's a 2Tb SSD
Can you make a video about physcial size of SSD, there's SSD external drive thats really small and really bug but still same size, the small one can have heat sink to improve the performance too so is this mean there's no reason to get a physical external ssd
That intro is getting old now. But one of the best Techquikcies in a while
so this doesnt apply to m.2 nvme drives? because most of them have the same amount of cards on them as the higher capacity ones
Does the same thing apply to m.2 SSDs?
So informative i had no idea about this, thank you!
Subbed :)
How do you know how many flash modules a particular SSD has? I do not think this is in the technical description of the products... I guess you can just assume bigger is faster?
Hi Linus. I have a Nividia GeForce GTX 1050TI and a AMD Fx3600 in my rig. Do you think these are best together? Most games I only get 60-100Fps at medium settings alone. I feel like something is being choked up... Any suggestions?
What about nvme? Is that different then says when it comes to bigger being faster?
This episode was so good I even watched your ads dude - just out of respect :-)
so it works sorta like an internal raid when it comes to speed?
Yo Linus... how's that watch you're wearing, thats the Casio ProTrek right?
Hey linus does anyone ei your team actually use Tunnel Bear? I might consider it with the ending of net neutrality in the states
that soda analogy started out dark linus
so mem modules inside ssd are like in raid0?
I always wondered this. I thought it was that the manufacturer limits the speed through the controller on smaller drives.
hey champ!! can you cover in your next episode in Techquickie difference between PPTP, L2TP, IPsec, SSL , OpenVPN and GRE VPN, and something about authentication Protocols and Security Protocols
That was an eye opener! 👍🏾
When one mentions "SSD", I picture Druaga1 forcefully putting an SSD into something like a light
The nand flash modules in a SSD are kind of like many smaller SSDs running in RAID 0.
Please video about SSD cache (pseudo SLC or smth like that)
hello sir linus... just want to know the difference between samsung mz76 vs samsung mz75
Great teacher. never boring
Love your videos Linus 👍👍👍
I would give you even more likes, thanx for explaining linus
do a video on the current generation of ssd controllers
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Bruh I just ignore the sponsors as long as he is getting paid
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Great video! I learned a bit!!!! NICE!
Hi, i just got a new computer and i have a problem. My new cpu (intel core i7 7700k (4 cores) is preforming slower then my older cpu (intel core i5 4600k or what its called) and i dont know why? Specs: GPU nvidia gtx 1070 8gb CPU i7 7700k PSU corsair rm750i RAM Corsair vengance 8gb (4x2) 1666 mhz i believe and my motherbord is Asus z270 f gaming . I think that it might be my ram but im not sure if i should spend my money on more ram (corsair vengence 2x8 gb 3600 mhz). What do u guys think?
what about two ssd of 120 gb in raid 0 vs one 240gb ssd?
Hey where is the pc you said you will keep running a benchmark on for a year
Learned why fast food can't be too cheap. Unexpected, but glad to make sense of fry prices.
Pls do a video on how to fix 100% disk usage plzzz searching for ever now can’t find the answer on what to do :/
You've answer a question I've beat myself with many times before
So it’s kind of like the flash modules are in raid 0?
but for example if yo have a 120gb ssd and won't complete that, you can have the same speed than an biggest ssd with the same part complete of each module, true??
2017: "Silicon is cheap"
2022: *entry-level gpu at 250€*
This makes sense, however a Corsair m.2 ssd with a heatsink is over double the price when you go from 1tb to 2tb.
Much better. I definitely enjoyed this far more
is that the same logic for m.2? thanks
Does this approach apply to micro sd cards as well ?
this guy looks like linus from linus tech tips 🤔
can you explain how LK technology from bloody brand works?
Hey guys,
Speaking of higher capacity SSD's, I have a 4 year old LITEON LMT-256M6M mSATA SSD in my 2013 Dell XPS8700.
What's the best method to establish existing 'wear', errors etc?
I am probably going to reinstall W10, and either keep it or sell it, and I am not sure whether to pop a 512Gb SSD in it before I do. Amongst other things, it depends on how worn things are.
Pete
Great video. I bought myself an Intel 1,2Tb 2,5" S3610 Sata SSD with only 18 hours runtime and 1Tb of data written for 114 $. It's MLC type. My SSD since 2014 is my Samsung 840 Evo 500Gb i bought in 2014 new for 198$, still is very fast.
at 65 I need help figuring out all of this new silliness... thanks my friend...
It is sounds something in old days, I mean I can see the difference with Evo 840 but for Evo 850 the random read and write almost the same, I can't find info for 950 and 960 NVMe SSDs.
+Techquicke It seems like SSD prices ~double with the doubling of capacity after best value model. This would conflict the fry analogy. Please explain
Is that why hard drives are faster when you format it to have smaller allocation unit sizes? (think with traditional drives you lose some space for more speed)
I wish someone would make 3.5 or even 5.25 inch ssds to really take advantage of this property. Even if it cost a couple grand you could easily fit 30 terabytes worth of nand chips in a 5.25 inch form factor, and at that point your sata or even sas interface would be your limiting factor. Connect it via pcie x16 and we could be looking at some serious performance.
I need to see a comparison video
The burger king pricing thing is to tempt you away from the medium sized drink you want and spend more money to get "better value"
Look at Linus right arm (The left arm from our perspective!) I cant watch this until he fixes his sleeve!
How the hell did you get pictures of the Boise Micron?
So, be with me on this.
Silicon is sand.
My ssd is silicon.
I have sand in my backyard.
So why am I then buying basically very expensive sand from a store when I could get it from my backyard?
Juho Leiniö your cpu and gpu are even more expensive sand :D
Oh did I mention that energy whise, your pc does nothing but convert electric energy into heat, its basically an expensive heater xD
Your sand is not pure sand :P
go ahead and slap some sand into your machine then
Juho Leiniö if you can make 14nm transistors then go ahead
Good luck storing a movie in the sand in your backyard!
Let me know how it goes lol
I knew the other stuff, wish I knew about the speed thing.. a week ago
So it does a similar process like raid? that actually makes a LOT of sense.
Best tech TH-camr period, IMO
Holy sh*t I just search about this yesterday and BOOOOM techquickie giving me the answer
but why at the larger size, does it have fewer writes?
i had this happen to me. i had a 120 gb ssd nand 3d, and i got a second drive same same manufacturer and same tech but its 500 gb, it is noticeably faster.
So is this kind of like RAID 0 in the way the modules are all being read at the same time to make it faster?
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NAND flash is arranged in serial (1:33), and NOR in parallel not like Linus said...
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