What about a role that during the HR recruiter phone screening reveals that the role, while advertised as being remote, requires 20-30% travel for user research? Would this be a major red flag? It's probably the only red flag in this role that I'm interviewing for currently.
Thanks for spilling the truth. UX Job posts are so ridiculous that they're discouraging for new designers. How can one be good at everything? Why would anyone want to be an expert at 20+ tools? It's nice of you to raise all the red flags so that designers don't think they're incompetent. There's a lot to learn and improve on just in the field of UX ... as individuals we can't do what an entire design studio is expected to do.
The issue is every company seems to be looking for a single unicorn designer, instead of looking for multiple designers who specialize in various types of UI & UX design, which not only would ensure quality collaboration of various skill sets and perspectives, but would also result in a positive workplace. I don't care how good a unicorn designer is, they WILL burn out if you put all the work onto that single person. When the unicorn decides to abandon ship and go elsewhere, the company loses their star player. A smart company knows to invest in multiple people to ensure that the knowledge and resources are spread out, so that if one of the team leaves, the company will still have their other team players and it's likely at least one of those remaining designers has picked up on the skills of the person who left. That kind of "Knowledge Management" helps to retain intellectual property within the company, and it future-proofs a brand from having to start over every time a "unicorn" leaves. You can strive to be t-shaped in various areas, but I think it's best to have 1 or 2 specialties with a basic understanding of other UX skills (ex. Either some UI, visual design, interaction design, informational architecture, user research, or motion design). Rather than trying to mold yourself to fit every job opening you might run into, it's better to spend your time seeking out companies you actually want to work for and find out what design skills that could be useful for their company that will help you stand out. Like Amazon will be seeking Voice UX designers for Alexa, Facebook will be seeking Metaverse UX designers, Adobe will be seeking UI/UX designers who can utilize AI & Machine Learning tools to streamline their service, etc. These are trends in UX that are still in development, but that can make you look ahead of the game and in-demand far more than trying to turn yourself into a unicorn. Ignore job posts that expose which companies will waste your time, and work on putting your energy into being a future-ready designer rather than ending up as a burnt-out "jack of all trades".
I am a Sr UX UI Engineer working in healthcare. I used to be a Front End Developer I work remotely from home and I am currently straddling two major internal product redesigns. I have 2 UX UI Engineers and a couple of Interns that I work closely with and mentor. All of us answer to our Sr Systems Architect. I am currently conducting first round interviews to contract a UX UI Engineer for one of the projects before I’m found dead at my desk. There is definitely a lack of understanding with the difference between UX and UI with the agencies I’m working with as well as our HR department who is responsible for creating the job ads. I have interviewed way more visual designers who throw around and sprinkle UX throughout their resume than I can even count!! So now when I talk with recruiters I ask for backend UX skills. Research, User Testing, Journey Mapping, and Interaction Strategy. My red flags are Designers that mention UX on their resumes but when you visit their portfolios, you see no sign of it. No mention of their process, no mention of User Testing nor Research. Nor can they speak to UX when you ask them to talk you through one of their projects. One candidate literally said to me “Well, I don’t think the user should be involved at all”! I seriously thought I was being Punked or was on a hidden camera show! O_0
Joined a company where most of the senior UX team are really just designers, its been a struggle because they think it's all about design sprints and ui design pixel pushing... fml I made a mistake
Hi Tracy, I'm a UX designer seeking work. I found this video because I keep getting approached by scammers or recruiters who have no clue what UX is and mixes the job with UI. If you're still hiring can you share the link to your company so I can apply?
As someone currently beginning his career in the field, this all rings very true, and sort of validates some of the frustration/confusion I've had whilst searching. The problem here is that once you've weeded out the red flag postings, you're left with very few opportunities (depending on your location and some other variables). A very small percentage seem to actually understand UX purposes and their relative implementation. Much of it seems to be a discrepancy between the hiring manager/job poster and those in the company with relevant knowledge. Which in itself is a red flag as there are clear breaks of communication somewhere, and could be even more of an indication that the company needs you, but is looking for the wrong thing. If you can get an interview and communicate that to them, then great. But you still have to get the interview first, and even then you might be talking to the wrong people.
If you created a course I would actually watch it. You support your statements with fresh and new insights. And you give really strong examples. Thank you.
"Fragile instead of Agile". I'm stealing that one. I don't know but I have been raising this issue to the leadership in my team. Somehow they still don't understand that the role do not fit in that methodology most of the time. It forces me as someone who's trying to expand my skills in the UX domain to go back to just doing UI to catch up with the fast pace of each sprints. Kind of frustrating honestly.
This was fantastic to see. A lot of folks need this insight because they're taken advantage of, lied to, and not supported in their careers! I have commented on another video of yours about how other designers on TH-cam are contributing to the problem of titles versus roles. The industry, and designers, need to stop lumping in "UI/UX" together. As you've illustrated, they are completely different. Roles need to another level of specificity like "Interaction Designer", or "UX Researcher", etc. They are not the same at all, but I'm seeing this problem often, and it's being propagated by poor company structure and poor recruitment techniques. I don't want to promote Google but they do a great job of delineating job roles into research, interaction, ux, and visual designers.
The Agile comment at the end. Very spot on. Its possible to do UX in an agile environment, but it's really on the other end of the spectrum. Stories written are very fixed, ux requires more fluidity with iterations. Hmm... Thanks for this, awesome vid!
That's where Lean UX comes. UX can be done effectively in Agile, even in two weeks sprint. It needs a lot of preparation from the business, tech and design side, but it is something that can be done. Still, I agree with @vaexperience, agile mention on the job board means that you have to fit into dev-agile and they don't care much about proper problem-solving.
VAX, this is a very thorough vid, nice work. Yep, those are the red flags I experienced a lot. Just a few months ago, I saw the same job description(job ID) which had it's role title changed 3 times in the course of 3+ months from "Principle UX Design Architect" to "Senior UX/UI Designer", and now "Senior UX Design Engineer II". See how f'ed up this job title is?! Tell me what the f is "UX Design Engineer"??? The hiring manager has no idea what he/she is looking for. No wonder they still can't find anyone. Then the other day a recruiter sent me a job description for a Principal UX Designer: "200+ applications the Enterprise UX team works on - it could be products within supply chain, merchandising, martech, in store mobile apps, etc." "Anything their associates use those are the products" "This person will come in as a shared service designer" "You will work with their senior leadership to work on all different products" "You would dive in and see what gaps are underneath their umbrella of products" "Sit in and facilitate workshops, are they solving the right problem" "A lot of whiteboarding sessions to make sure things are on the right track, etc." "This will be high level consulting strategy work" "Not execution end to end" This JD is actually from a huge home improvement retailer in US. There's only two big ones in US. This one's name starts with an H. You can probably guess what company that is. You wonder how much thought the hiring manager put in that JD. Let me remind you this claims to be a "Strategic role working with leadership"! It's just utterly embarrassing. There's another huge pharmacy retailer who's looking for UX people. When I asked their inside recruiter who is the hiring manager and what product/service this role will be working on. She said: hmmm good question, we actually have a few hiring managers, there will be a panel interview with all of them, then they decide which team you will be on if you're a good fit. I said: No, thank you. I'm not interested. Good luck with your search. The hiring manager/recruiter who don't do their homework on what exactly they're looking for DO NOT deserve your time and interest! I think the main problem with those JDs is that those hiring managers have no clue what UX is about or how they should structure their org around this role. A lot of those hiring managers have no background in UXR, UXD, UI, IA, etc, and their inside/outside recruiters are idiots in those area as well. They just heard about this buzz word "UX", and throw a JD together and put it up on Linkedin and waiting for the bait to move. That's the sad state in the UX job market right now. The UX job market is hot, but it's also a zoo like what VAX showed in the vid. There're a lot opportunities, but those red flags are definitely need to be raised for the sanity of UX people. One tip I have for UX designers is that to do a thorough research on the hiring manager on Linkedin. Find out who that is as early as you can. See what background he/she is in. If their background is in branding, graphic design, corp/product marketing, advertising, sh*t like that, then it's better off to move on. This is my red flag. If the hiring manager who claim he/she has been in UX career path for a while, check to see if he/she has a personal website where you can dig deeper on the kind of work he/she has been producing. A lot of people claim they're UX'ers only have a UI mock up gallery. That's also a red flag. When you see these red flags, don't be afraid of backing out after the initial screening interview with the recruiter or even after the 1st round with the hiring manager.
Your comments are always landing into the 'held for review' bucket - I think TH-cam senses the sentiment of the message. Great points though, the title swap pingpong is typical of hiring managers who are intervieweing heavily but realise they need to add specificity as the talent doesn't have those specific skills they are after - I've seen way too many of these type of adjustments in the middst of the hiring process. Also the thorough research is neccessary - I might actually make a video with some tips of how to do so for others, as I've noticed that people do apply quick and overlook bigger red flags
Lol I am a digital designer, who wants to find Product Design Role. And I used to skip roles that are marked as UX only, because I do not have much experience in research yet. Seeing it can be about UI UX in reality makes me wanna review them now hahaha.
"Pixel perfect" makes my skin crawl. I've noticed in my limited UX design experience that managers and stakeholders care so much more about the aesthetics (often meaningless and without value), such as a header color or whatever, yet these things always take priority. I've spent countless hours getting mockups "pixel perfect" only for engineering/development to miss the mark completely on usability and functionality, even with a sound design system, all to the detriment of the original intention of the service.
What gets me is companies looking for juniors with 3+ years experience. They just want midweight for peanuts. Very discouraging for graduates because it leaves us in no man’s land.
@vaexperience I do agree with you generally about the roles should be split. However what are your thoughts on this? As a field, UX people should focus on improving the intangibles, the experience, but the market as a whole, in the past several years (especially since Apple had set a lot of standard for aesthetic product) has evolved to a point where it expects good visuals to be on top of the UX pyramid. At least for IC UX design roles, you would really struggle to land a great role unless you have visual design skills on par with actual visual designers (and in fact many brand name tech companies in Silicon Valley doesn't even have "UX" positions anymore, they are all product designers of different levels. At those places, product designers are basically doing two roles worth of job. From a running business stand point, combining the two roles makes alot of sense, it's probably easier both in terms of hiring and managing point of view, 1 less headcount to deal with. This is just my observation. You did a great informative video and I appreciate your candor.
I don't think the roles must be split in all cases - the only thing I'm after is labelling things as they are instead of confusing candidates or stiffling someone's growth calling things "UX" when in reality the person will be positioned to do just UI work. Also it is very convenient to some to call UXers a lot of random titles as that also position into the work they are supposed to do. Ultimately, you as a candidate need to know what methods are appropriate and do them anyways
Thank you for this video, Job description are not nice to us the new designers I saw a job opportunity and I applied they reached to me on a call interview The interview was good until I was told I wil working as a UI/Ux, graphics designer and I must have the knowledge of html &Css but too bad I only know UI/Ux so I was rejected ☹️ Most job descriptions & high number of years of experience are not helping us The new designers.
I think you covered what 100% of UX designer job ads are lol I've been monitoring linkdin offers for a while and I don't remember coming across a proper UX role, all were UI roles at best.
What you've said can't be more true, Thomas! You're spot on. Even when you look at most of the people who apply for those jobs, majority(as listed by linkedIn) have skills that have nothing to do with UX. I tried to apply for UX jobs via LinkedIn and gave up! There is a lot of confusion in the UX industry right now
Anytime an add has the title of UX designer but almost all of the requirements are UI related,, run....they have no idea what they want, they are just following popular words. As an UX Researcher/Designer Junior I don't know if I should laugh or cry at some of the adds I see.
This actually happened to me in my internship well I only did my internship there for 3-4 months and left the company. They wanted someone to improve their existing products UI and nothing much.
How about if you want to do it all? I’ve been learning about UX and UI for the last 3 months and I am highly interested in doing both. Would a better title be “product designer” for UI/UX roles
Just do it; the pont of this video was not to just highlight the flags themselves once you're ready to join the job market or ar established in any of the experience design lines. If you just started you will need to learn enough of UI to be a great UX designer anyways. Just make sure you don't join a firm that only wants UI, but no real UX :)
Have you found any other red flags in the job ads?
Yes, I found a lot. They ask for UX Designer with graphic design skill
What about a role that during the HR recruiter phone screening reveals that the role, while advertised as being remote, requires 20-30% travel for user research? Would this be a major red flag? It's probably the only red flag in this role that I'm interviewing for currently.
Thanks for spilling the truth. UX Job posts are so ridiculous that they're discouraging for new designers. How can one be good at everything? Why would anyone want to be an expert at 20+ tools? It's nice of you to raise all the red flags so that designers don't think they're incompetent. There's a lot to learn and improve on just in the field of UX ... as individuals we can't do what an entire design studio is expected to do.
The issue is every company seems to be looking for a single unicorn designer, instead of looking for multiple designers who specialize in various types of UI & UX design, which not only would ensure quality collaboration of various skill sets and perspectives, but would also result in a positive workplace. I don't care how good a unicorn designer is, they WILL burn out if you put all the work onto that single person. When the unicorn decides to abandon ship and go elsewhere, the company loses their star player. A smart company knows to invest in multiple people to ensure that the knowledge and resources are spread out, so that if one of the team leaves, the company will still have their other team players and it's likely at least one of those remaining designers has picked up on the skills of the person who left. That kind of "Knowledge Management" helps to retain intellectual property within the company, and it future-proofs a brand from having to start over every time a "unicorn" leaves. You can strive to be t-shaped in various areas, but I think it's best to have 1 or 2 specialties with a basic understanding of other UX skills (ex. Either some UI, visual design, interaction design, informational architecture, user research, or motion design). Rather than trying to mold yourself to fit every job opening you might run into, it's better to spend your time seeking out companies you actually want to work for and find out what design skills that could be useful for their company that will help you stand out. Like Amazon will be seeking Voice UX designers for Alexa, Facebook will be seeking Metaverse UX designers, Adobe will be seeking UI/UX designers who can utilize AI & Machine Learning tools to streamline their service, etc. These are trends in UX that are still in development, but that can make you look ahead of the game and in-demand far more than trying to turn yourself into a unicorn. Ignore job posts that expose which companies will waste your time, and work on putting your energy into being a future-ready designer rather than ending up as a burnt-out "jack of all trades".
I am a Sr UX UI Engineer working in healthcare. I used to be a Front End Developer I work remotely from home and I am currently straddling two major internal product redesigns. I have 2 UX UI Engineers and a couple of Interns that I work closely with and mentor. All of us answer to our Sr Systems Architect. I am currently conducting first round interviews to contract a UX UI Engineer for one of the projects before I’m found dead at my desk. There is definitely a lack of understanding with the difference between UX and UI with the agencies I’m working with as well as our HR department who is responsible for creating the job ads. I have interviewed way more visual designers who throw around and sprinkle UX throughout their resume than I can even count!! So now when I talk with recruiters I ask for backend UX skills. Research, User Testing, Journey Mapping, and Interaction Strategy.
My red flags are Designers that mention UX on their resumes but when you visit their portfolios, you see no sign of it. No mention of their process, no mention of User Testing nor Research. Nor can they speak to UX when you ask them to talk you through one of their projects.
One candidate literally said to me “Well, I don’t think the user should be involved at all”! I seriously thought I was being Punked or was on a hidden camera show! O_0
Ahh, great points! The red flags do apply to candidates as well
Joined a company where most of the senior UX team are really just designers, its been a struggle because they think it's all about design sprints and ui design pixel pushing... fml I made a mistake
Hi Tracy, I'm a UX designer seeking work. I found this video because I keep getting approached by scammers or recruiters who have no clue what UX is and mixes the job with UI.
If you're still hiring can you share the link to your company so I can apply?
As someone currently beginning his career in the field, this all rings very true, and sort of validates some of the frustration/confusion I've had whilst searching. The problem here is that once you've weeded out the red flag postings, you're left with very few opportunities (depending on your location and some other variables). A very small percentage seem to actually understand UX purposes and their relative implementation. Much of it seems to be a discrepancy between the hiring manager/job poster and those in the company with relevant knowledge. Which in itself is a red flag as there are clear breaks of communication somewhere, and could be even more of an indication that the company needs you, but is looking for the wrong thing. If you can get an interview and communicate that to them, then great. But you still have to get the interview first, and even then you might be talking to the wrong people.
If you created a course I would actually watch it. You support your statements with fresh and new insights. And you give really strong examples. Thank you.
Thanks, appreciate it. I'm currently working on a book, but might do a course at some point in the future
- Where do you see yourself in four years?
- In your seat but asking better questions.
"Fragile instead of Agile".
I'm stealing that one. I don't know but I have been raising this issue to the leadership in my team. Somehow they still don't understand that the role do not fit in that methodology most of the time. It forces me as someone who's trying to expand my skills in the UX domain to go back to just doing UI to catch up with the fast pace of each sprints. Kind of frustrating honestly.
This was fantastic to see. A lot of folks need this insight because they're taken advantage of, lied to, and not supported in their careers! I have commented on another video of yours about how other designers on TH-cam are contributing to the problem of titles versus roles. The industry, and designers, need to stop lumping in "UI/UX" together. As you've illustrated, they are completely different. Roles need to another level of specificity like "Interaction Designer", or "UX Researcher", etc. They are not the same at all, but I'm seeing this problem often, and it's being propagated by poor company structure and poor recruitment techniques.
I don't want to promote Google but they do a great job of delineating job roles into research, interaction, ux, and visual designers.
The Agile comment at the end. Very spot on. Its possible to do UX in an agile environment, but it's really on the other end of the spectrum. Stories written are very fixed, ux requires more fluidity with iterations. Hmm...
Thanks for this, awesome vid!
That's where Lean UX comes. UX can be done effectively in Agile, even in two weeks sprint. It needs a lot of preparation from the business, tech and design side, but it is something that can be done. Still, I agree with @vaexperience, agile mention on the job board means that you have to fit into dev-agile and they don't care much about proper problem-solving.
If possible, talk about Agile in UX and what approach you would take in such a situation.
Wow, that was densified information. No intro, no blabla, love it!
VAX, this is a very thorough vid, nice work. Yep, those are the red flags I experienced a lot. Just a few months ago, I saw the same job description(job ID) which had it's role title changed 3 times in the course of 3+ months from "Principle UX Design Architect" to "Senior UX/UI Designer", and now "Senior UX Design Engineer II". See how f'ed up this job title is?! Tell me what the f is "UX Design Engineer"??? The hiring manager has no idea what he/she is looking for. No wonder they still can't find anyone. Then the other day a recruiter sent me a job description for a Principal UX Designer:
"200+ applications the Enterprise UX team works on - it could be products within supply chain, merchandising, martech, in store mobile apps, etc."
"Anything their associates use those are the products"
"This person will come in as a shared service designer"
"You will work with their senior leadership to work on all different products"
"You would dive in and see what gaps are underneath their umbrella of products"
"Sit in and facilitate workshops, are they solving the right problem"
"A lot of whiteboarding sessions to make sure things are on the right track, etc."
"This will be high level consulting strategy work"
"Not execution end to end"
This JD is actually from a huge home improvement retailer in US. There's only two big ones in US. This one's name starts with an H. You can probably guess what company that is. You wonder how much thought the hiring manager put in that JD. Let me remind you this claims to be a "Strategic role working with leadership"! It's just utterly embarrassing. There's another huge pharmacy retailer who's looking for UX people. When I asked their inside recruiter who is the hiring manager and what product/service this role will be working on. She said: hmmm good question, we actually have a few hiring managers, there will be a panel interview with all of them, then they decide which team you will be on if you're a good fit. I said: No, thank you. I'm not interested. Good luck with your search. The hiring manager/recruiter who don't do their homework on what exactly they're looking for DO NOT deserve your time and interest!
I think the main problem with those JDs is that those hiring managers have no clue what UX is about or how they should structure their org around this role. A lot of those hiring managers have no background in UXR, UXD, UI, IA, etc, and their inside/outside recruiters are idiots in those area as well. They just heard about this buzz word "UX", and throw a JD together and put it up on Linkedin and waiting for the bait to move. That's the sad state in the UX job market right now. The UX job market is hot, but it's also a zoo like what VAX showed in the vid. There're a lot opportunities, but those red flags are definitely need to be raised for the sanity of UX people.
One tip I have for UX designers is that to do a thorough research on the hiring manager on Linkedin. Find out who that is as early as you can. See what background he/she is in. If their background is in branding, graphic design, corp/product marketing, advertising, sh*t like that, then it's better off to move on. This is my red flag. If the hiring manager who claim he/she has been in UX career path for a while, check to see if he/she has a personal website where you can dig deeper on the kind of work he/she has been producing. A lot of people claim they're UX'ers only have a UI mock up gallery. That's also a red flag. When you see these red flags, don't be afraid of backing out after the initial screening interview with the recruiter or even after the 1st round with the hiring manager.
Your comments are always landing into the 'held for review' bucket - I think TH-cam senses the sentiment of the message. Great points though, the title swap pingpong is typical of hiring managers who are intervieweing heavily but realise they need to add specificity as the talent doesn't have those specific skills they are after - I've seen way too many of these type of adjustments in the middst of the hiring process.
Also the thorough research is neccessary - I might actually make a video with some tips of how to do so for others, as I've noticed that people do apply quick and overlook bigger red flags
Awesome video. Thank you for this, I will start my new job search soon and this helps me set my standards and not just apply to any position.
Lol I am a digital designer, who wants to find Product Design Role. And I used to skip roles that are marked as UX only, because I do not have much experience in research yet. Seeing it can be about UI UX in reality makes me wanna review them now hahaha.
all of them made with same buzzwords expecting to do the work of entire team
"Pixel perfect" makes my skin crawl. I've noticed in my limited UX design experience that managers and stakeholders care so much more about the aesthetics (often meaningless and without value), such as a header color or whatever, yet these things always take priority. I've spent countless hours getting mockups "pixel perfect" only for engineering/development to miss the mark completely on usability and functionality, even with a sound design system, all to the detriment of the original intention of the service.
I really like how you breakdown thing, these job board just copy each other's job descriptions without understanding why
Awesome content, much love from Vancouver
Entry-level positions requiring industry experience 😂
What gets me is companies looking for juniors with 3+ years experience. They just want midweight for peanuts. Very discouraging for graduates because it leaves us in no man’s land.
I almost dropped my thermos of tea on my lap at 10:59 😂
Great content! Thank you! Just the Music at the end Starts pretty early and is distracting. Cheers!
Thank you, that was very helpful!
@vaexperience I do agree with you generally about the roles should be split. However what are your thoughts on this? As a field, UX people should focus on improving the intangibles, the experience, but the market as a whole, in the past several years (especially since Apple had set a lot of standard for aesthetic product) has evolved to a point where it expects good visuals to be on top of the UX pyramid. At least for IC UX design roles, you would really struggle to land a great role unless you have visual design skills on par with actual visual designers (and in fact many brand name tech companies in Silicon Valley doesn't even have "UX" positions anymore, they are all product designers of different levels. At those places, product designers are basically doing two roles worth of job. From a running business stand point, combining the two roles makes alot of sense, it's probably easier both in terms of hiring and managing point of view, 1 less headcount to deal with.
This is just my observation. You did a great informative video and I appreciate your candor.
I don't think the roles must be split in all cases - the only thing I'm after is labelling things as they are instead of confusing candidates or stiffling someone's growth calling things "UX" when in reality the person will be positioned to do just UI work. Also it is very convenient to some to call UXers a lot of random titles as that also position into the work they are supposed to do. Ultimately, you as a candidate need to know what methods are appropriate and do them anyways
Thank you for this video, Job description are not nice to us the new designers
I saw a job opportunity and I applied they reached to me on a call interview
The interview was good until I was told I wil working as a UI/Ux, graphics designer and I must have the knowledge of html &Css but too bad I only know UI/Ux so I was rejected ☹️
Most job descriptions & high number of years of experience are not helping us The new designers.
I think you covered what 100% of UX designer job ads are lol I've been monitoring linkdin offers for a while and I don't remember coming across a proper UX role, all were UI roles at best.
What you've said can't be more true, Thomas! You're spot on.
Even when you look at most of the people who apply for those jobs, majority(as listed by linkedIn) have skills that have nothing to do with UX.
I tried to apply for UX jobs via LinkedIn and gave up!
There is a lot of confusion in the UX industry right now
So, where are you looking now for UX jobs?
This was invaluable.
Anytime an add has the title of UX designer but almost all of the requirements are UI related,, run....they have no idea what they want, they are just following popular words.
As an UX Researcher/Designer Junior I don't know if I should laugh or cry at some of the adds I see.
This actually happened to me in my internship well I only did my internship there for 3-4 months and left the company. They wanted someone to improve their existing products UI and nothing much.
Agree with the agile one…. Fragile culture
How about if you want to do it all? I’ve been learning about UX and UI for the last 3 months and I am highly interested in doing both. Would a better title be “product designer” for UI/UX roles
Just do it; the pont of this video was not to just highlight the flags themselves once you're ready to join the job market or ar established in any of the experience design lines. If you just started you will need to learn enough of UI to be a great UX designer anyways. Just make sure you don't join a firm that only wants UI, but no real UX :)