Lovely. Brings back memories of my 2 kittens I had in the eighties. Refined....no. Zippy and interesting....yes. A car magazine of the day rated it as economical as a mini 850 but as fast as a mini 1000. I achieved 63mpg with mine on a long run.
My dream classic collection would include a kitten which would live next to a DAF 33. I’ve always had a thing for simple but clever small cars. My first car was a Reliant Supervan so I learned to appreciate Reliant as a brand.
An all-electric version of the Kitten would sell today. A delightful car, ours only suffered from overheating on long fast runs in a heatwave (Kenlowe electric fan sorted that).
I passed a certain yellow Kitten on the dual carriageway the other day. I thought Ian would love a test of that! I'm assuming from this footage that it was Mr. HubNut at the helm!
Lovely to see you in a Kitten. It brought back a lot of memories of my 1976 estate in Harvest Gold which my dad passed on to me when I was 18. It wasn’t the coolest car to be seen in but was great fun to thrash around the Cornish lanes. I used to hold on to the gears a little longer than you as it would do nearly 50mph in second gear, which probably explain why I never got fuel consumption better than low 40s to the gallon.
One of my sixth form teachers (Mr Brookes aka Brooksie) had a Kitten estate that he drove to work in. He would teach car maintenance to kids with it. And he was responsible for buying and running both the school minibus and the school coach! He had a pre WWI Lanchester in his garage that he was planning to restore when he retired! As my Mum taught at the same school, I do know that he is still alive and well, but have never managed to confirm whether he still has his Kitten or whether he ever restored the Lanchester to full working order!!
I want one of the vans. I love the name. I think Kitten is the best car name ever. Reliant was such a cool company. As an American I am just learning about them.
My sister worked at sgt taplow, where your fox was registered , and would regularly drive home in something from the garage. In those days they sold, reliant, morgan, Subaru, lotus and mitsubishi as well as all the Japanese bikes. My sister bought an early x plate mitsubishi starion from them. That and the x plate kitten would have made an interesting showroom comparison. I went for a job there , in the parts department, sadly I didn't get it.
My uncle and his brothers had the reliant dealership at wednesbury near Walsall was Roy peplow and company they sold reliant motorbikes and were an original UK Hyundai agent
I do have a passion for all things Reliant, the 3 wheelers are so cute, as is this Kitten, I used to own a 1993 Robin LX, I had many hours of fun driving it❤️.
I a kitten in the mid 90s and loved it, i travelled from Skegness to Bedford to collect from a chap that used them for timed hill climbing. I got stopped by the police in Spilsby, they wanted to know what it was. Gosh I did some miles
I had one of these in the green that Robins came in. The rear door was rubbish but I managed to get a Robin one the same colour. As the Kitten handled quite well, you could amaze people who were chasing you on country lanes as it easily hold its own on the bends. The look of determination on the face of those following was something to behold. I seem to remember that Princess Anne had one but don't hold me to that.
I was once driving back from a gig at 1.30am and came across somebody pushing one of these up an incline next to a rural airport as it had broken down. I got out and helped push it to said nearby airfield and having never seen one, I was grateful that the owner filled me in on the history of these. Really interesting stuff! Love this video!
What a great little car. I first came across the kitten when I was at university (early 1990's) when a friend had one. I'd heard of the robin of course but never the kitten. Reliant had some great cars in there day. I always think its a shame that they are no longer with us. As always a great video to watch :-)
Well done to those that saved it from being scrapped, one for the future HubNut museum when it opens Ian? That showroom window takes you back, must be a great draw to what's actually for sale - I take it those cars are display only?
They are - Or at least the MkV Cortina is, it has been there at least 20 years. Fairly sure it was there over 15 years or so ago when I took my XR4x4 there to see if they could look at the fuel injection (an Italian tune-up sorted it). Their indifference was underwhelming so I never bothered them again. The Escorts have been there at least 10 years too. Not sure about the Range Rover, that one seems to come and go, so maybe it is the owner's occasional driver.
I have a 76' Kitten Saloon, which I have had as a daily driver for the last few years. The Fox is much heavier than the Kitten, even with the Tandy top off. The Kitten can be driven on a B1 licence, unlike many of the competition of the day, mine has been on some long runs without incident. It is NOT a live rear axle, it has a differential as have all of the three and four wheeled Reliant including the Fox, although the Fox has a lower ratio.Kittens were also built in India under licence as the Sipani Dolphin, the Fox sold well in Greece.
Looks quite a fun car to drive! Sporty looking steering wheel. Admired Reliant as a company, to keep going as long as they did but they were so “Reliant” -yes pun intended - on other car manufacturers for their parts supply , which as we all know certainly was not without a few problems as far as continuity of work was concerned. Wonderful vid. if I remember rightly these were strong contenders in the Texaco Economy Tour of Britain, I’m of a certain age to remember that one!
The two wheels on the front look almost like an afterthought. Rear is like a Volvo station wagon. You don't see dealers here in Australia specialising in 70s and 80s cars like that one. I liked the final Cortina in the background.
So many memories. I had a white kitten saloon in mid to late 80's, PNA 514R. It was known as "the star car" due to its registration by my mates. I was shocked to see its still on the road, its now bright orange & attends a few shows. I was in my late teens at the time. Most of my mates had minis or rusty escorts & I bought it as the GRP body & no rust really appealed. It was superb at the time as cost pennies to run and I only sold it as my mates mum kept pestering to buy it every time I went to their house. Another superb review Ian keep up the good work.
Many years ago, when I was a mechanic, I worked with a guy who had one of these. It looked scruffy, although it was solid, but he'd done a few bits to the engine, including a set of quad carbs from a Kawasaki GPZ 1100. For what it was it went pretty well, and thanks to the induction noise from those carbs and a home made big bore exhaust system it sounded good too.
I fondly remember when I was around 16 and a mate had a kitten van given to him, a bright orange one. It was tremendous fun and made for some great memories. Used to keep it going with literal rubbish found around various parents garages, one time I found some old Volvo marked spark plugs (must have been my parents 240)and even though they were well past it they gave the kitten a couple more months life.
Mine is on steel rims. I recognize everything you mention about driving behavior from my Kitten. The steering wheel feels almost against the door. I have one of the few LHD. The interior of my Kitten looks very used, the outside is also not suitable for standing on Pebble Beach. The previous owner built a carburettor that was too big, so mine is not economical. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I was given a lift in one of these that the owner had somehow fitted a Rover 3.5 into it. It was stupid, dangerously fast. I was amazed but very happy to get out at the destination. These days 136BHP is not much but in a glass fibre car it is way over the top.
I think the Reliant Kitten is much nicer than the Rebel which came before it. I always liked the look of the Kitten, like a Robin with four wheels.These cars are getting rare now and I enjoyed your video of this one
Seeing the foybles of the old cars, as seen as an annoyance, now have the warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia 👍😀👍. Glad to see you weathered the recent storms.
Fun little car, love the black vinyl interior I must say. People below a certain age don't understand the entertainment of actually having to drive a car rather than just travelling in it.
Just up your street.basic motoring and 50+ mpg.easy to work on.Goes from a to b and keeps you dry..what is there not to like but smile.from Tamworth myself,and my dad worke_ at reliant in early 70s.
One of my neighbours bought a blue one of these for his wife when she first passed her test in the early 80's. Apparently she didnt like it much so he used to run around in it and she drove his Morris Marina. I can remember them owning it for a good few years though.
I had my Kitten estate from 1989 - 1998 - it was a 1978 model (BGH 451S) painted Blue and Silver (not it's original colour). Mine had a cigar lighter (I don't think yours did) which I used to use as I smoke cigars. Yours had a clock which mine did not have. Mine had reclining front seats (I imagine that this one did though they were not demonstrated - that's what the other lever would have been when you climbed into the rear seat) although I replaced the drivers seat with a fixed seat from a Kitten van as my reclining mechanism broke. I had several holidays in Snowdonia with my Kitten in the 90s and I used the reclining passenger seat to sleep in the vehicle. Nice to see this video. So many memories. Pure nostalgia.
There was something very wrong with that left wiper, by the looks--didn't seem to be clearing the left side of the windscreen at all! I've only ever owned two petrol-engined cars that would routinely top 50mpg in normal driving, and oddly, one was a 1.4 litre Renault 19 Chamade--to this day I have no idea why that one was so good, because no other 1.4 I've owned has come close!
An 850 Mini is about 15% heavier and has about 15% less power than a Kitten, so it's not surprising that it can't maintain the same speed as easily as a Kitten
Many years ago a friend had one of these with a tuned engine, modified suspension, wide wheels and foaming resin in some of the hollow fibreglass sections. It was surprisingly quick and a monster in the twisty bits. A lot to be said for so little weight.
I had a 1972 Regal for a short time and later had a road test in a Robin but the Robin felt more cramped than the Regal. The early aluminium bodied Regals were very narrow though.
Yep brings back memories my first boss had one not a good one S reg .It had one wiper on the passenger side I used to have to tell him if anything was coming if it rained.! We had to refiberglass the door hinges using filler from Taskers!I was an apprentice decorator in 1988 but I also learnt a lot about mechanics and rebuilt a mini clubman estate a result.I also learnt that a mechanic put the carburettor on upside down and and leaked fuel on top of the engine it went up thanks to a school fire extinguisher the car was saved but for the heater matrix now no demist either. Engineers at Reliant put a Scimitar engine in one with frightening performance the bosses wouldn't let it out of the company car park! The Kittens brakes were totally pants! I know personally I've worked on them enough ....lol
That's the old Hubnut we know and love, getting excited about odd little cars. Bloke across the road from me has a yellow Kitten with a tuned Cosworth engine in it.
A great video, I always wondered about the Kitten owner opposite my mums house and now i know how it was for her going down to the coop in the early 80's. Noce little car but probably too small to be viable for my 6ft. Dyanes are my thing and I can fit into those though the refinement and interior fittings are none exsistant compered to this little machine. Please carry on going though my car bucket list.
Super review! I bought an orange one in 1977. I raved about it. A rally driver friend of mine had a go and that was quite an experience! It would do flat-out trips of 400 miles, no problem. Traffic lights derby in London gave Porches a run for their money up to 25 and the next set of lights! I tried to interest Reliants in an electric version then, but they didn't see the opportunity. I am sure there were enough people to buy one as a second or third car for the novelty, and the production quantities would be ideal for Reliants then. There was a Reliant Scimitar in West London that someone had made electric at that time. Happy days! Ray Peto
What a great little car. I started my career in 1982 at a Ford Main Dealer, the wife of one of the senior managers had a chocolate brown Kitten. Whenever someone brought it into the workshop, the place erupted into a fair imitation of a cats home! What you now need to test is a well sorted Rialto, arguably the best of the three wheeled range.
Great review Ian. I remember these back in the day. Always been a rare sight on the roads. Do you ever think you'll get to review a Dutton Sierra? An early attempt at an SUV / soft roader.
I remember my friend got hold of a van in early noughties, he got it free, wasnt running, took the head of and number 3 piston had a brussel sprout sized hole in it, he ended up giving it to a guy who put a bike engine in it and grass tracked it a few years before it falling into disrepair and being scrapped (insidentally he turned it into an estate because of the regs ie no commercials ;) ) the dinky closing handles are just mini ones aswell as the correctly identified maxi/marina/allegro opening ones and i believe the wheels look like KN's not to be confused with the filter people, keep up the great work ian :)
Nice, nice, nice... Who needs sportscar reports when you can have this? The first time I was able to touch a Reliant was two years ago on the «Retro Classics» in Stuttgart. It was a yellow Scimitar... 💥😃💥
A delightful little Reliant! It certainly looks like you had a lot of fun Ian. Shape wise if you squint (a lot) reminds me of the old Allegro Estate that's been in the wash at a high temperature. The body on these didn't suffer the metal moth though. A terrific example in a great colour, almost lemon curd that I remember from the same era. These were built not too far from where I grew up in the midlands. It's sad that the company stopped in 1998. My dad had an old 950cc Herald and I can just about remember that it could turn so tight.
Nice seeing a Kitten again , a local farmer had one and it was a hoot to drive . Storm Dudley, Storm Eunice and now storm Frankin ?? while here in Spain we are in midst of a bad droubt
I had a Kitten saloon which I found out was one of 3 prototypes and a Kitten van. Van had round headlights car had rectangular. Loved both, heaters were not good but economy was brilliant! Thanks for the review!
I remember seeing one or two of these about as a kid in the late 80s and thinking how curious it looked. So glad to find a proper review of one. The sun visor is my airbag sounds like a prog rock album title
A Reliant Kitten overtook me once at well over 70 mph !!!!!!! It sounded as though someone had put a very high powered motor bike engine in it. I expected it to be upside down in a ditch a few miles up the road !!!!!! 😂
God I miss seeing cars like the Kitten around. Another great little drive Ian, you're putting content out thick and fast of late, or maybe I'm just watching more than usual, either way it's great viewing!
What a delightful vehicle! The engine sounds just like Foxannn's! A shame it was not popular, and rare as well. Love that maneuverability! Wonderful test drive and review, thank you very much!
What a fascinating little car! I see hints of the Fox in the bonnet, grille and dashboard and of the Scimitar in the upward sweep (and rearward trim) of the rear side windows. Ok, there are hints of the Robin too, but Reliant appear to have been going for a definite separation between the two vehicles. I like it. A decent set of shocks and an intermittent relay kit and it would still be a great round-town vehicle, big enough to hold the weekly groceries. However, buying it as a new car, I can see the appeal if someone wanted a small Reliant (but with FOUR wheels) in the 70s, but in the early 80s? There was SOME competition available in the size. The Fiesta was a reasonably well established vehicle in the UK by then, the last MkII / first MkIII Escorts were still available, the first of the Metros were around too....as were the likes of the little Datsun 100A Cherry, Daihatsu Charade and other little Japanese vehicles ....and of course, the ultimate in small - the Kei cars. The Yugo or the Hyundai Pony (ugh...) may have been a couple of the only similarly sized vehicles within the same price point though.... Do you know what the Kitten sold for (roughly) when this one was bought? According to Autocar, the Pony started at GBP3075, but I have dug about and cannot find a reference to the Kitten except for it's launch price in 1974 - some GBP500 dearer than the 850cc Mini at the time, apparently. I know the UK was strongly encouraged at the time by Maggie to Buy British, but it would be interesting to see just how big a difference there was. I'd certainly drive a Kitten over either a Pony or Yugo if there was only 500 quid difference!
Don't forget that back then 500 quid was a lot of money. That worked out to about 13% more, and for many, that 13% made the difference between buying a new car or buying a used one. I have no idea how the Reliant drove, but we did get the Pony here in Canada. The upper trim level with the larger engine was quite engaging to drive. Even the base car with the 4 speed manual was a bit of alright on the road. Taken for what they were, they were not bad cars at all
@@michaeltutty1540 Granted regarding the economics, although with hindsight I maybe should have added that a) I would have preferred a Mini over the Yugo and Pony if it came to that and b) (although I have not looked their prices up), I would have preferred the reliability of the Japanese vehicles over any of the others - even though they rotted faster.. As I mentioned, the Mini was 500 quid cheaper than the Reliant at it's launch but I couldnt find the price of the Kitten when she was near end of production to compare it again. I DO know that even though the Mini was still beloved by the masses in 1981/2, it was passé and had not reached the cult status it has today, so just another workhorse. I have a Mini and putting a weekly shop in it for four people is an absolute laugh....unless you are one of the passengers who has to get out and walk because there isnt enough room for you after the groceries are stacked on the back seat! I've owned both a 100A Cherry and a 1981 Charade and both were cheap and cheerful little vehicles despite their propensity for dissolving under you like a Disprin in water. Both were basic but reasonably well equipped as Japanese cars of the early 80s were apt to be - as well as very economical to run. I have driven a Yugo around 100 miles and that's enough for me. I drove a Pony back from up north for a mate of mine who had bought it and when he asked me how it went, he did not like my answer. I said two very short sentences - "I'm glad that's over" and "I'm glad it is your vehicle, not mine". It was simply the most miserable trip I had made in a vehicle to that point, although I had not driven the Yugo or a Lada at that time. All I can say is that if the Pony wasn't bad in Canada, then you blokes must have got a different shipment to us down here in New Zealand! The Pony had a lot of potential but was let down so much by poor quality of 1) workmanship, 2) attention to detail and 3) standard of fittings / finish. The one I drove was 5 years old, had 16,000 kilometres (10k miles) on the clock and although the vehicle looked as immaculate as you'd expect it to, it drove like 316,000. The amount of rattles it had was worrying, the dashboard plastic and its constant creaking made a lovely counterpoint to the rattle inside the gear knob, the sun visor kept swinging down into my line of sight, the handbrake button shot off under the dashboard after the first hill-start I did and it lacked any feel in the steering except you knew when you turned the wheel more than five degrees off centre, because the car rolled like a 30 foot boat with a narrow beam. It should have turned me off Korean vehicles for life, but I have owned a Daewoo Cielo that my wife and I bought new and then sold after 6 years (and 85,000km - 52k mikes). I could write up another whole page on that car - a lot good and a similar amount bad - but can sum it up in one line: If you buy cheap, you get cheap.....and I guess that's the same with the likes of the Pony / Yugp / Lada etc.
The steering rack is actually a narrowed version of the old Ford Escort item. I made the mistake of selling mine a couple of years ago when a Vauxhall Viscount came along. No regrets but the Kitten was definitely more useful and had a few nice mods like disc front brakes and adjustable shocks. Lovely little cars and, as someone else mentioned below, would make an excellent electric conversion (which was my original plan).
I must admit I haven't seen one of those for years Mr HubNut, but I do remember them it must of just started production when I first started looking at cars, great video on something I don't think anyone else has reviewed.
That is a very cute little car. So was the original Robin (particularly in yellow, a relative of ours had one in yellow), but possibly a little more reassuring at higher velocities, while retaining the zippiness
Oh what a cutie pie the Reliant Kitten is as a car. I enjoyed listening to you about Reliant as a company & your views on each model. I would love to have a drive of a Reliant as it is one of my Bucket list cars to drive.
That looks like great fun indeed. A very interesting bit of kit. We never saw these on this side of the Atlantic, which is not surprising. For one, there is no way that could pass the safety tests to be able to be sold. Still, a really neat little car.
It's nice that you know the proper way of using the handbrake while driving 👍 Looks in traffic today (at least here) like most people haven't learned that. Being in another country I didn't get the yellow Reliants "meme", so will have to look it up. One of my old car friends has a yellow Scimitar, and that just looks awesome!
Always liked these nearly brought one for my first car back in 1992. But my dad put me off buying one and I brought a mini clubman 1100 estate instead. Great video.
Great video Ian,I keep having to watch it as I this week bought a 1977 kitten in the same colour as this one from Adam and his Dad.Looking forward to working on the project car as they're simple to work on as compared to the 3 wheelers.
my friends just bought one in essex, ive only seen the photos thus far, its white with a blue stripe down the center over bonnet and roof etc, new custom interior so its a bit brighter inside, think he said it was a later 78 model, its his weekend car, his daily is a blue robin! hes had a few, had this blue onemost of the 20 years ive known him. im not able to have a classic anymore, previously had a zephyr and a mk2 cortina, but id love to have a reliant and consider1 if things changed! joys of self employment and living in london with all the ulez zones etc!! and having a car and van already!
Awesome. I have very fond memories of my Reliant Kitten. It was amazing how fast you could get around in a Kitten, it really was excellent around town. (I'm 6'5" btw, and managed to fit in without too much bother).
Enjoyed watching this. I like those cars and I am happy that Foxanne has been given the deserved tlc. A video on the story and history of Reliant would interest me very much. Cheers from sunny Belgium.
Wonderful little car, was LMAO when sun visor was proposed to be the airbag. Those cars only real safety feature was the driver paying extra attention to traffic around them 🙂I still believe that classic cars can make one a better driver.
Lovely. Brings back memories of my 2 kittens I had in the eighties.
Refined....no.
Zippy and interesting....yes.
A car magazine of the day rated it as economical as a mini 850 but as fast as a mini 1000.
I achieved 63mpg with mine on a long run.
Wow. That equals my 2020 Panda!
I would say in many ways it is better than a Mini, my 850 Mini offered little performance. Wipers do not seem great, ( on the left ).
I unironically think the kitten is dead cool. Perhaps, dare I say, even more than a mini 😳
My dream classic collection would include a kitten which would live next to a DAF 33. I’ve always had a thing for simple but clever small cars. My first car was a Reliant Supervan so I learned to appreciate Reliant as a brand.
Your passion for these old beauties is infectious. You do a great job presenting them too. Cheers!
I always said Ian needs his own T.V channel,so much more interesting than the Clarkeson brigade
An all-electric version of the Kitten would sell today. A delightful car, ours only suffered from overheating on long fast runs in a heatwave (Kenlowe electric fan sorted that).
ooh, an electric Kitten, now that's a car would definitely want!
@@itchywitchy Personally, I prefer an Atomic Kitten... Can't think why.
The engine was, to those in the know, a sweet, tunable unit.
That advocate of the plutocrat's express the Bristol, LJK Setright himself, loved it.
I passed a certain yellow Kitten on the dual carriageway the other day. I thought Ian would love a test of that! I'm assuming from this footage that it was Mr. HubNut at the helm!
If it was Wednesday, it could have been me.
@@HubNut If I had that a simple ev conversion would be on the to do list... using G-Wiz bits and lithium batteries for the range...
I was missing road tests, nice to see they return 🙌
Lovely to see you in a Kitten. It brought back a lot of memories of my 1976 estate in Harvest Gold which my dad passed on to me when I was 18. It wasn’t the coolest car to be seen in but was great fun to thrash around the Cornish lanes.
I used to hold on to the gears a little longer than you as it would do nearly 50mph in second gear, which probably explain why I never got fuel consumption better than low 40s to the gallon.
I had 2 Robins and a Supervan III in the 70s [provincial licence], I could only dream of a fourth whel.
One of my sixth form teachers (Mr Brookes aka Brooksie) had a Kitten estate that he drove to work in. He would teach car maintenance to kids with it. And he was responsible for buying and running both the school minibus and the school coach! He had a pre WWI Lanchester in his garage that he was planning to restore when he retired! As my Mum taught at the same school, I do know that he is still alive and well, but have never managed to confirm whether he still has his Kitten or whether he ever restored the Lanchester to full working order!!
I want one of the vans.
I love the name.
I think Kitten is the best car name ever.
Reliant was such a cool company.
As an American I am just learning about them.
..and it was the last truly independent motoring company in Britain before its demise around 2000/2001
My sister worked at sgt taplow, where your fox was registered , and would regularly drive home in something from the garage. In those days they sold, reliant, morgan, Subaru, lotus and mitsubishi as well as all the Japanese bikes. My sister bought an early x plate mitsubishi starion from them. That and the x plate kitten would have made an interesting showroom comparison.
I went for a job there , in the parts department, sadly I didn't get it.
Mitsubishi Starion, now that is rare!
My uncle and his brothers had the reliant dealership at wednesbury near Walsall was Roy peplow and company they sold reliant motorbikes and were an original UK Hyundai agent
I do have a passion for all things Reliant, the 3 wheelers are so cute, as is this Kitten, I used to own a 1993 Robin LX, I had many hours of fun driving it❤️.
I a kitten in the mid 90s and loved it, i travelled from Skegness to Bedford to collect from a chap that used them for timed hill climbing.
I got stopped by the police in Spilsby, they wanted to know what it was. Gosh I did some miles
'The sun visor is my airbag' one of the most hubnutiest lines ever! Another great vid Ian👌
I had one of these in the green that Robins came in. The rear door was rubbish but I managed to get a Robin one the same colour. As the Kitten handled quite well, you could amaze people who were chasing you on country lanes as it easily hold its own on the bends. The look of determination on the face of those following was something to behold.
I seem to remember that Princess Anne had one but don't hold me to that.
..she definitely had a scimitar, not sure about the kitten
I was once driving back from a gig at 1.30am and came across somebody pushing one of these up an incline next to a rural airport as it had broken down. I got out and helped push it to said nearby airfield and having never seen one, I was grateful that the owner filled me in on the history of these. Really interesting stuff!
Love this video!
What a great little car. I first came across the kitten when I was at university (early 1990's) when a friend had one. I'd heard of the robin of course but never the kitten. Reliant had some great cars in there day. I always think its a shame that they are no longer with us. As always a great video to watch :-)
Well done to those that saved it from being scrapped, one for the future HubNut museum when it opens Ian?
That showroom window takes you back, must be a great draw to what's actually for sale - I take it those cars are display only?
They are - Or at least the MkV Cortina is, it has been there at least 20 years. Fairly sure it was there over 15 years or so ago when I took my XR4x4 there to see if they could look at the fuel injection (an Italian tune-up sorted it). Their indifference was underwhelming so I never bothered them again. The Escorts have been there at least 10 years too. Not sure about the Range Rover, that one seems to come and go, so maybe it is the owner's occasional driver.
@@Zadster Shame they’re trapped up there
My mates mum had one of these as her first car when she passed her test in 1985. Happy memories
Bit of a handful when wet, and commodious in the rear, but that’s enough about your mates mum.
Most people seem to think Del Boy's Reliant van was a Robin - it wasn't, it was a Regal!
It was a regal
@@Bodgemiester Or to be more precise, a Supervan II or III.
Very cute!! These older cars look so much easier to maintain for the average Joe or Jane.
I have a 76' Kitten Saloon, which I have had as a daily driver for the last few years. The Fox is much heavier than the Kitten, even with the Tandy top off. The Kitten can be driven on a B1 licence, unlike many of the competition of the day, mine has been on some long runs without incident. It is NOT a live rear axle, it has a differential as have all of the three and four wheeled Reliant including the Fox, although the Fox has a lower ratio.Kittens were also built in India under licence as the Sipani Dolphin, the Fox sold well in Greece.
Looks quite a fun car to drive! Sporty looking steering wheel. Admired Reliant as a company, to keep going as long as they did but they were so “Reliant” -yes pun intended - on other car manufacturers for their parts supply , which as we all know certainly was not without a few problems as far as continuity of work was concerned. Wonderful vid. if I remember rightly these were strong contenders in the Texaco Economy Tour of Britain, I’m of a certain age to remember that one!
The two wheels on the front look almost like an afterthought.
Rear is like a Volvo station wagon.
You don't see dealers here in Australia specialising in 70s and 80s cars like that one. I liked the final Cortina in the background.
Ah, the four wheeled three wheeler! Cool! 😎
it was made in Tamworth staffordshire. when i used to go to Morrisons, you could smell the fibre glass from the factory ! very strong it was.
So many memories. I had a white kitten saloon in mid to late 80's, PNA 514R. It was known as "the star car" due to its registration by my mates.
I was shocked to see its still on the road, its now bright orange & attends a few shows.
I was in my late teens at the time. Most of my mates had minis or rusty escorts & I bought it as the GRP body & no rust really appealed.
It was superb at the time as cost pennies to run and I only sold it as my mates mum kept pestering to buy it every time I went to their house.
Another superb review Ian keep up the good work.
Many years ago, when I was a mechanic, I worked with a guy who had one of these. It looked scruffy, although it was solid, but he'd done a few bits to the engine, including a set of quad carbs from a Kawasaki GPZ 1100. For what it was it went pretty well, and thanks to the induction noise from those carbs and a home made big bore exhaust system it sounded good too.
A lot more period civilised than I'd expected, lovely. Thank you.
I fondly remember when I was around 16 and a mate had a kitten van given to him, a bright orange one. It was tremendous fun and made for some great memories.
Used to keep it going with literal rubbish found around various parents garages, one time I found some old Volvo marked spark plugs (must have been my parents 240)and even though they were well past it they gave the kitten a couple more months life.
@Lookup2Wakeup quite a few mates more like!
Mine is on steel rims. I recognize everything you mention about driving behavior from my Kitten. The steering wheel feels almost against the door. I have one of the few LHD. The interior of my Kitten looks very used, the outside is also not suitable for standing on Pebble Beach. The previous owner built a carburettor that was too big, so mine is not economical. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I was given a lift in one of these that the owner had somehow fitted a Rover 3.5 into it. It was stupid, dangerously fast. I was amazed but very happy to get out at the destination. These days 136BHP is not much but in a glass fibre car it is way over the top.
I think the Reliant Kitten is much nicer than the Rebel which came before it. I always liked the look of the Kitten, like a Robin with four wheels.These cars are getting rare now and I enjoyed your video of this one
Seeing the foybles of the old cars, as seen as an annoyance, now have the warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia 👍😀👍. Glad to see you weathered the recent storms.
Fun little car, love the black vinyl interior I must say. People below a certain age don't understand the entertainment of actually having to drive a car rather than just travelling in it.
Jasper Carrott was able to harvest a lot of his comedy material from the Reliant Robin and also the Skoda 120L.
Just up your street.basic motoring and 50+ mpg.easy to work on.Goes from a to b and keeps you dry..what is there not to like but smile.from Tamworth myself,and my dad worke_ at reliant in early 70s.
With very little tuning gas flowed carb and some port polishing mine was quite happy to do 100mph as confirmed by the police 😐
One of my neighbours bought a blue one of these for his wife when she first passed her test in the early 80's. Apparently she didnt like it much so he used to run around in it and she drove his Morris Marina. I can remember them owning it for a good few years though.
I had my Kitten estate from 1989 - 1998 - it was a 1978 model (BGH 451S) painted Blue and Silver (not it's original colour). Mine had a cigar lighter (I don't think yours did) which I used to use as I smoke cigars. Yours had a clock which mine did not have. Mine had reclining front seats (I imagine that this one did though they were not demonstrated - that's what the other lever would have been when you climbed into the rear seat) although I replaced the drivers seat with a fixed seat from a Kitten van as my reclining mechanism broke. I had several holidays in Snowdonia with my Kitten in the 90s and I used the reclining passenger seat to sleep in the vehicle. Nice to see this video. So many memories. Pure nostalgia.
16:58: Bonus rear parcel shelf action! Marvellous. 👍
That 850 was a good one. Nice torque curve and in the Robin at least they would do over 90 if you were daft enough. 70mph no problem at all.
I think the back door lock/handle came from an Austin A35 or another BMC/BL model the Kitten looks so cute
IIRC Mini vans had the same handle.
Very nice! I always liked the Kitten. I still see one regularly tooling around Kidderminster - they look like fun to drive.
I owned the Indian variant called Dolphin manufactured by a Bangalore based company known as Sipani motors. Excellent pickup and manuverability. ❤
Fantastic little car great bit of fun always wondered what they were like 👍👍
There was something very wrong with that left wiper, by the looks--didn't seem to be clearing the left side of the windscreen at all! I've only ever owned two petrol-engined cars that would routinely top 50mpg in normal driving, and oddly, one was a 1.4 litre Renault 19 Chamade--to this day I have no idea why that one was so good, because no other 1.4 I've owned has come close!
That is the epitome of what is missing from modern cars. Totally love it
An 850 Mini is about 15% heavier and has about 15% less power than a Kitten, so it's not surprising that it can't maintain the same speed as easily as a Kitten
love the way the left viper works without removing any water at all like its not touching the windscreen.
Many years ago a friend had one of these with a tuned engine, modified suspension, wide wheels and foaming resin in some of the hollow fibreglass sections. It was surprisingly quick and a monster in the twisty bits. A lot to be said for so little weight.
I had a 1972 Regal for a short time and later had a road test in a Robin but the Robin felt more cramped than the Regal. The early aluminium bodied Regals were very narrow though.
My grandad had one of these for many years, surprising just how much fun they are!
Yep brings back memories my first boss had one not a good one S reg .It had one wiper on the passenger side I used to have to tell him if anything was coming if it rained.! We had to refiberglass the door hinges using filler from Taskers!I was an apprentice decorator in 1988 but I also learnt a lot about mechanics and rebuilt a mini clubman estate a result.I also learnt that a mechanic put the carburettor on upside down and and leaked fuel on top of the engine it went up thanks to a school fire extinguisher the car was saved but for the heater matrix now no demist either.
Engineers at Reliant put a Scimitar engine in one with frightening performance the bosses wouldn't let it out of the company car park!
The Kittens brakes were totally pants! I know personally I've worked on them enough ....lol
A Ford Essex v6 in a kitten.. That would've certainly been very lively!
That's the old Hubnut we know and love, getting excited about odd little cars. Bloke across the road from me has a yellow Kitten with a tuned Cosworth engine in it.
A great video, I always wondered about the Kitten owner opposite my mums house and now i know how it was for her going down to the coop in the early 80's. Noce little car but probably too small to be viable for my 6ft. Dyanes are my thing and I can fit into those though the refinement and interior fittings are none exsistant compered to this little machine. Please carry on going though my car bucket list.
Super review!
I bought an orange one in 1977. I raved about it. A rally driver friend of mine had a go and that was quite an experience! It would do flat-out trips of 400 miles, no problem. Traffic lights derby in London gave Porches a run for their money up to 25 and the next set of lights!
I tried to interest Reliants in an electric version then, but they didn't see the opportunity. I am sure there were enough people to buy one as a second or third car for the novelty, and the production quantities would be ideal for Reliants then.
There was a Reliant Scimitar in West London that someone had made electric at that time.
Happy days!
Ray Peto
I was holding my breath when you turned next the skip. What a cracking little car.
What a great little car. I started my career in 1982 at a Ford Main Dealer, the wife of one of the senior managers had a chocolate brown Kitten. Whenever someone brought it into the workshop, the place erupted into a fair imitation of a cats home! What you now need to test is a well sorted Rialto, arguably the best of the three wheeled range.
Great review Ian. I remember these back in the day. Always been a rare sight on the roads.
Do you ever think you'll get to review a Dutton Sierra? An early attempt at an SUV / soft roader.
I remember my friend got hold of a van in early noughties, he got it free, wasnt running, took the head of and number 3 piston had a brussel sprout sized hole in it, he ended up giving it to a guy who put a bike engine in it and grass tracked it a few years before it falling into disrepair and being scrapped (insidentally he turned it into an estate because of the regs ie no commercials ;) ) the dinky closing handles are just mini ones aswell as the correctly identified maxi/marina/allegro opening ones and i believe the wheels look like KN's not to be confused with the filter people, keep up the great work ian :)
Nice, nice, nice... Who needs sportscar reports when you can have this? The first time I was able to touch a Reliant was two years ago on the «Retro Classics» in Stuttgart. It was a yellow Scimitar... 💥😃💥
Love your enthusiasm for all these wicked cars. Many i knew as a child.
A delightful little Reliant! It certainly looks like you had a lot of fun Ian. Shape wise if you squint (a lot) reminds me of the old Allegro Estate that's been in the wash at a high temperature. The body on these didn't suffer the metal moth though. A terrific example in a great colour, almost lemon curd that I remember from the same era. These were built not too far from where I grew up in the midlands. It's sad that the company stopped in 1998. My dad had an old 950cc Herald and I can just about remember that it could turn so tight.
What a great little car that had everything needed for 2 retired people with a golden retriever.
Or Jack Russell
Nice seeing a Kitten again , a local farmer had one and it was a hoot to drive . Storm Dudley, Storm Eunice and now storm Frankin ?? while here in Spain we are in midst of a bad droubt
Yes, it's the whole peninsula
Always had a soft spot for these, the styling and size were very attractive to me.
Awesome v log really loved all the mechanical noises
Wow, that showroom is SOMETHING!!!! amazing stuff! And I always had a soft sport for the sweet little Kitten! fantastic video!
I had a Kitten saloon which I found out was one of 3 prototypes and a Kitten van. Van had round headlights car had rectangular. Loved both, heaters were not good but economy was brilliant! Thanks for the review!
I remember seeing one or two of these about as a kid in the late 80s and thinking how curious it looked. So glad to find a proper review of one.
The sun visor is my airbag sounds like a prog rock album title
A Reliant Kitten overtook me once at well over 70 mph !!!!!!! It sounded as though someone had put a very high powered motor bike engine in it. I expected it to be upside down in a ditch a few miles up the road !!!!!! 😂
God I miss seeing cars like the Kitten around. Another great little drive Ian, you're putting content out thick and fast of late, or maybe I'm just watching more than usual, either way it's great viewing!
Always had a soft spot for these as well as the Fox just a shame they never built the Cypher sports car because I could never warm to SS1
What a delightful vehicle! The engine sounds just like Foxannn's!
A shame it was not popular, and rare as well.
Love that maneuverability!
Wonderful test drive and review, thank you very much!
They should have gone on to produce a bigger and beefier version of the Kitten and called it the Reliant Cat.
Enjoyable video on the Kitten. Attractive example in yellow with the alloys.
great video and thanks for the ride! i thought were going to do a cheeky little wheel spin when you pulled out of the junction at 15:29
I learnt to drive & passed my test in one of those. Brilliant little car!
What a fascinating little car! I see hints of the Fox in the bonnet, grille and dashboard and of the Scimitar in the upward sweep (and rearward trim) of the rear side windows. Ok, there are hints of the Robin too, but Reliant appear to have been going for a definite separation between the two vehicles. I like it. A decent set of shocks and an intermittent relay kit and it would still be a great round-town vehicle, big enough to hold the weekly groceries.
However, buying it as a new car, I can see the appeal if someone wanted a small Reliant (but with FOUR wheels) in the 70s, but in the early 80s? There was SOME competition available in the size. The Fiesta was a reasonably well established vehicle in the UK by then, the last MkII / first MkIII Escorts were still available, the first of the Metros were around too....as were the likes of the little Datsun 100A Cherry, Daihatsu Charade and other little Japanese vehicles ....and of course, the ultimate in small - the Kei cars.
The Yugo or the Hyundai Pony (ugh...) may have been a couple of the only similarly sized vehicles within the same price point though.... Do you know what the Kitten sold for (roughly) when this one was bought? According to Autocar, the Pony started at GBP3075, but I have dug about and cannot find a reference to the Kitten except for it's launch price in 1974 - some GBP500 dearer than the 850cc Mini at the time, apparently. I know the UK was strongly encouraged at the time by Maggie to Buy British, but it would be interesting to see just how big a difference there was. I'd certainly drive a Kitten over either a Pony or Yugo if there was only 500 quid difference!
Don't forget that back then 500 quid was a lot of money. That worked out to about 13% more, and for many, that 13% made the difference between buying a new car or buying a used one.
I have no idea how the Reliant drove, but we did get the Pony here in Canada. The upper trim level with the larger engine was quite engaging to drive. Even the base car with the 4 speed manual was a bit of alright on the road. Taken for what they were, they were not bad cars at all
@@michaeltutty1540 Granted regarding the economics, although with hindsight I maybe should have added that a) I would have preferred a Mini over the Yugo and Pony if it came to that and b) (although I have not looked their prices up), I would have preferred the reliability of the Japanese vehicles over any of the others - even though they rotted faster..
As I mentioned, the Mini was 500 quid cheaper than the Reliant at it's launch but I couldnt find the price of the Kitten when she was near end of production to compare it again. I DO know that even though the Mini was still beloved by the masses in 1981/2, it was passé and had not reached the cult status it has today, so just another workhorse. I have a Mini and putting a weekly shop in it for four people is an absolute laugh....unless you are one of the passengers who has to get out and walk because there isnt enough room for you after the groceries are stacked on the back seat!
I've owned both a 100A Cherry and a 1981 Charade and both were cheap and cheerful little vehicles despite their propensity for dissolving under you like a Disprin in water. Both were basic but reasonably well equipped as Japanese cars of the early 80s were apt to be - as well as very economical to run. I have driven a Yugo around 100 miles and that's enough for me. I drove a Pony back from up north for a mate of mine who had bought it and when he asked me how it went, he did not like my answer. I said two very short sentences - "I'm glad that's over" and "I'm glad it is your vehicle, not mine". It was simply the most miserable trip I had made in a vehicle to that point, although I had not driven the Yugo or a Lada at that time.
All I can say is that if the Pony wasn't bad in Canada, then you blokes must have got a different shipment to us down here in New Zealand! The Pony had a lot of potential but was let down so much by poor quality of 1) workmanship, 2) attention to detail and 3) standard of fittings / finish. The one I drove was 5 years old, had 16,000 kilometres (10k miles) on the clock and although the vehicle looked as immaculate as you'd expect it to, it drove like 316,000. The amount of rattles it had was worrying, the dashboard plastic and its constant creaking made a lovely counterpoint to the rattle inside the gear knob, the sun visor kept swinging down into my line of sight, the handbrake button shot off under the dashboard after the first hill-start I did and it lacked any feel in the steering except you knew when you turned the wheel more than five degrees off centre, because the car rolled like a 30 foot boat with a narrow beam.
It should have turned me off Korean vehicles for life, but I have owned a Daewoo Cielo that my wife and I bought new and then sold after 6 years (and 85,000km - 52k mikes). I could write up another whole page on that car - a lot good and a similar amount bad - but can sum it up in one line: If you buy cheap, you get cheap.....and I guess that's the same with the likes of the Pony / Yugp / Lada etc.
The steering rack is actually a narrowed version of the old Ford Escort item. I made the mistake of selling mine a couple of years ago when a Vauxhall Viscount came along. No regrets but the Kitten was definitely more useful and had a few nice mods like disc front brakes and adjustable shocks. Lovely little cars and, as someone else mentioned below, would make an excellent electric conversion (which was my original plan).
I must admit I haven't seen one of those for years Mr HubNut, but I do remember them it must of just started production when I first started looking at cars, great video on something I don't think anyone else has reviewed.
I never realised there was so much difference between the Kitten and the Fox. Interesting stuff.
That is a very cute little car. So was the original Robin (particularly in yellow, a relative of ours had one in yellow), but possibly a little more reassuring at higher velocities, while retaining the zippiness
Now I need one of these.. Thanks a lot, Ian.
Oh what a cutie pie the Reliant Kitten is as a car. I enjoyed listening to you about Reliant as a company & your views on each model. I would love to have a drive of a Reliant as it is one of my Bucket list cars to drive.
Always loved the Kitten. Why? When I was growing up a guy up the road drove one as his daily driver and his weekend car was a Detomaso Pantera.
That looks like great fun indeed. A very interesting bit of kit. We never saw these on this side of the Atlantic, which is not surprising. For one, there is no way that could pass the safety tests to be able to be sold. Still, a really neat little car.
It's nice that you know the proper way of using the handbrake while driving 👍
Looks in traffic today (at least here) like most people haven't learned that.
Being in another country I didn't get the yellow Reliants "meme", so will have to look it up. One of my old car friends has a yellow Scimitar, and that just looks awesome!
Always liked these nearly brought one for my first car back in 1992. But my dad put me off buying one and I brought a mini clubman 1100 estate instead.
Great video.
Lewi Buch would love this. He has a Kitten project. Interesting variation on mk1 Robin. Great test 👍😊
Great video Ian,I keep having to watch it as I this week bought a 1977 kitten in the same colour as this one from Adam and his Dad.Looking forward to working on the project car as they're simple to work on as compared to the 3 wheelers.
Quite like videos with you driving around familiar roads! I went to school not far from Wrenthorpe.
my friends just bought one in essex, ive only seen the photos thus far, its white with a blue stripe down the center over bonnet and roof etc, new custom interior so its a bit brighter inside, think he said it was a later 78 model, its his weekend car, his daily is a blue robin! hes had a few, had this blue onemost of the 20 years ive known him. im not able to have a classic anymore, previously had a zephyr and a mk2 cortina, but id love to have a reliant and consider1 if things changed!
joys of self employment and living in london with all the ulez zones etc!! and having a car and van already!
Awesome. I have very fond memories of my Reliant Kitten. It was amazing how fast you could get around in a Kitten, it really was excellent around town. (I'm 6'5" btw, and managed to fit in without too much bother).
Great little review, the kitten is a cool little car, I was at a car meet and met a fellow Hubnutter and her Fox, was good to see one in the flesh.
Enjoyed watching this.
I like those cars and I am happy that Foxanne has been given the deserved tlc.
A video on the story and history of Reliant would interest me very much.
Cheers from sunny Belgium.
Wonderful little car, was LMAO when sun visor was proposed to be the airbag. Those cars only real safety feature was the driver paying extra attention to traffic around them 🙂I still believe that classic cars can make one a better driver.